met uitzondering van deze in de
> provincie Antwerpen.
> > Dat maakt dat de 'fout' zich zou beperken tot regio Antwerpen.
> >
> > Indien gewenst kan ook de originele shapeFile aangeleverd worden, mocht
> dit makkelijker werken.
> >
> > Mvg,
> > Brecht
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Ik zou wel graag die shapefile zelf eens bekijken.
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Hi,
Sorry, this became a rather long mail. But it is important, and I tried to
be as clear as possible.
Meanwhile I spoke with Lionel on our Riot channel [1] and with Simon Poole
through legal-questi...@osmfoundation.org.
If I understood, André says this:
- the license for all the geoportail
>
> I guess Glenn’s point is that the license issue cannot be circumvented,
> even if the king itself says something different than its contents.
>
I'm not really sure about this, but I think it could work if the copyright
owner creates some official documentation explaining that tracing on top
It's nice to know where this is coming from, because I was a bit confused
about this too. In what way is my privacy protected if 2 million people can
see my profile; oh and also everyone who bothers to make an OSM account?
Putting a somewhat pointless access limitation to HDYC is
2017-04-27 13:14 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:03 AM, joost schouppe
> <joost.schou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So then you need to decide if a park in a residential area is a park or a
> > residential area.
>
> aren't p
>
>
> Yes, there are arguments for both ways of mapping, but as long as we don't
> prefer one over the other, mappers will edit back and forth without much
> sense.
>
I just think it's too complicated an issue to just decide here and now. So
a good and neutral guideline is probably the first
seeing a neutral article which collects all the points of view).
2017-04-27 10:14 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>:
>
> 2017-04-27 9:19 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe <joost.schou...@gmail.com>:
>
>> So not all of the cases are an error, but many of
ldn't
see because of closed shutters" (example [1]). Several months later, most
of them still had closed shutters. Without the old Note, you would never
know that this shop is probably permanently closed.
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s are welcome...
>
> * Summarizing this discussion in osm.be could be nice. But why not also
> create a "landuse convention" page on the OSM wiki
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions>?
>
>
> Julien
>
> On Wed, Apr 26,
e
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See, we really have no clue what we're doing :)
But maybe we should do this discussion in a separate thread
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> <joost.schou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > * A
gt;
> > Do you also want to put this text on osm.be, similarly to the Marc Gemis
> > articles? Maybe a better place for discussions...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
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Hoi Glenn,
Het ging over een ander soort traag, denk ik toch.
Maar over traag renderen: tuurlijk moet een app vectorkaarten aanbieden.
Maar vergelijk eens met maps.me. Ook vectorkaarten, maar véél smoother. En
er is ook nog de strategie van Backcountry Navigator: vectorkaart
downloaden, en lokaal
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Weer vanalles bijgeleerd :)
Wellicht is Mapfactor dan ook up to date:
http://navigatorfree.mapfactor.com/en/maps/
Op 18 april 2017 om 19:25 schreef Ruben <talk-be.ru...@janmaes.com>:
> On dinsdag 18 april 2017 17:36 joost schouppe wrote:
> > O, ik had de opmerking verkeerd beg
O, ik had de opmerking verkeerd begrepen, het gaat over OSM Live van Osmand:
https://www.osmand.net/osm_live
(ik zie nergens iets dat dit niet zou werken met navigatie)
Overigens komt het toevallig nu zo uit dat alle belangrijke wijzigingen in
Gent al uiitgevoerd werden op het moment dat Osmand
the English version too!
For the new subscribers, maybe it needs a bit more community channel
information?
250 people said we could add them to our Newsletter, so we're probably
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Bedankt Margo, voor de extra verduidelijking.
Met deze tags worden die uitzonderingen toegestaan:
maxweight:conditional = none @ destination
maxweight:agricultural=no
Allen, Jakka is al begonnen, maar het er is nog wel wat werk aan:
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ojW
(Margo, Bart, met die query
/osmbe/play/tree/master/wvi-data
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4:
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> -Deel over Gis en Cartografie.
> Vooral een beschrijving van het Qgis-programma, wat mij een soort Josm
> lijkt, voor niet OSM kaarten
> (of OSM-kaarten verder aan te passen met gegevens die niet in
> openstreetmap horen.)
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>
QGIS is inderdaad een geweldig open source programma om kaarten te
Goeie gelegenheid om eens naar Dendermonde af te zakken met zijn allen. Ook
wel om mijn pa eens te proberen indoctrineren, die woont in
Sint-Gillis-Dendermonde :)
Maar het zou pas in voege gaan in juli 2017:
https://www.dendermonde.be/product/1169/circulatieplan-centrum-sint-gillis
Misschien een
oplossingen, want enkel met het oog
> op routering)
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> ·GIS-materiaal: https://we.tl/ExJZGWLJ8L (mag hergebruikt worden
> onder Open Data Licentie Gent <https://data.stad.gent/open-data-licentie>,
> equivalent met Gratis Open Data Licentie Vlaanderen)
>
> (let op:
Abelshausen, Jonathan
Beliën and Joost Schouppe.
>From now on, we can have "official meetings", where online and physical
participation will be possible. We have planned our next meeting on the
24th of April, at 19:30. You can participate physically at the Brussels
meetup [
> My garden is a forest (really) and also, well, my garden; and then also
part
> of a residential area.
You could use the all of the following tags on the area of your garden:
landuse=residential
leisure=garden
access=private
landcover=trees
leaf_cycle=
leaf_type=
as a wrote a few months
tdated landuse
might be an excellent trigger for a user to finally decide "oh, that's
annoying, but I think I can fix that myself".
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2: http://maptime.io/belgium/
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anduse=farmland + a tag
specifying use (cropland vs grazing land) would be better.
But I was only talking about the Belgian (or even Flemish) use, where
farmland means cropland 99% of the time. Unless we do that mechanical edit
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> > That's what some want to do in The Netherlands, a mechanical edit from
> > farm to farmland.
>
> That's what I would do. Yes, mechanical edits are bad, but a lot of the
> landuse data isn't really that accurate to begin with and would need
> improvement anyway, especially when landuse=farm
can be used for meadows (although the use the same picture)
> "landuse=farmland kennzeichnet eine Ackerfläche. Äcker werden zum
> landwirtschaftlichen Feldfruchtanbau und zum erwerbsgärtnerischen
> Blumen- und Gemüseanbau genutzt.
>
> Für Grünland zur Tierweide oder Heugewin
of this tag.
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Ik heb vandaag ook deze ontdekt:
https://www.mijnenergiekompas.be/#/location-search
Doorgaans wordt dat allemaal snel opgelost.
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een voor elke way de nodes te bekomen maar ook
>> de coordinaten derzelve?
>>
>> Hier de query voor vliegveld Kiewit:
>>
>>
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>> _
helping out.
2017-03-20 10:36 GMT+01:00 Jo <winfi...@gmail.com>:
> It seems like I'll be the only one helping participants in Leuven, which
> is probably not a problem, but it wouldn't hurt to have some backup.
>
> Jo
>
> 2017-03-20 8:45 GMT+01:00 joost schouppe <joost.s
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Usually, I feel like Karel does. It is not really urgent to work on this,
as it is not so very common. Still, there is some work to do: lots of
newbie mistakes, the very occasional random vandal, sometimes damaging
maps.me mistakes, misguided Pokémon Go players.
Most of that work is getting done
>
>
> Now here what has to be done is an appropriate testing mechanism.
> There are some functionality already done (like the one in Belgium),
> but the problem is that everybody sees ALL last changes, there is no
> way to SHARE the work of checking and you never know if somebody has
> already
eepright, osmose as well as doing local error
checking) and data synchronisation tools. So "all in one" solution.
You get a list of unapproved changes, a list of not yet fixed errors
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:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapContrib
(also available in French)
Let me know what you think!
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tp://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/sledding-hills
>> http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/neighbourhood-names
>> http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset/airport-runways
>> etc etc
>> But I doubt they know/care as their portal was built by a consultant and
>> not them.
>>
>>
sites, they will often look
at the likes of Mapbox.
> Anyone any examples of how local government is using OSM?
>>
>
What Clifford said :)
> I understand part of the City of Ottawa, Ottawa Hydro does use OSM on its
>> web site by the way. Something my contact was unaware
Nou Philippe, je wens is gehoord :)
Binnenkort kan je dit achter rechtermuisklik op osm.org:
https://tomh.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/tileinfo?lat=50.233=-1.143=5#map=6/52.019/1.670
Op 3 maart 2017 om 11:34 schreef joost schouppe <joost.schou...@gmail.com>:
> Tom,
>
> We hoeven
them subscribe
through nationalmapathon.eventbrite.com . With two weeks left, we only have
50 subscriptions!
Even if you can't make it to one of the venues, remote help, especially for
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Tom,
We hoeven zelfs niet naar geopunt te gaan: het GRB is standaard als
achtergrond beschikbaar in de web-editor:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id
In dit geval: de wegoppervlaktes zien er wel verbonden uit, maar de
GRB-wegverbindingen niet. Dus lijkt mij officieel wel goed te
> multiple departments’ inputs on a single set of nodes in OSM.
>
> Are there any specialized tools you all have seen used for these purposes?
> Can we capture some of the scripts / etc. published by model cities/govs on
> the wiki page? Thanks for setting that up joost!
>
I don't have an answer for that, but if and when you do find out, would you
mind adding the info to the central list of imagery:
https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/tree/gh-pages/sources/europe/be
Then it will be available for immediate, at least for iD mappers. For the
moment, you get
://www.tragewegen.be/trefdag#inschrijven
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gaan. Als je bij het knippen van wegen relaties onmogelijk maakt (vb een
bus die een barriere passeert), dan is dit wel eenvoudig op te pikken door
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> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Best regards,
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> Ben Abelshausen
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> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:19 AM, <mgwebm...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>>
>> I did a fast check regarding Brussels City (lot of changes since the
>> “piétonnier” and I confirm this dataset
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I did a few quick checks of the data quality of the Cambio data, and it
looks like it is possibly better than our own data (where we have it).
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one is a bit strange, as I would think that implies dock=tidal
equals "a dock that is not tidal" :)
That raises the question: how do you tag a dock that is in fact affected by
tides? I did not seem to find a tag for that, did you guys?
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> feed or inbox, but spam that you actually have to search for is maybe
> not a top priority that admins should dedicate time to removing?
>
Well the annoyance with spam does pop up often enough. The usual answer to
things like this in the OSM ecosystem is "why don't you do it yourself".
I've
a certain admin process, and at best, it does that
properly. But for the government, it might for example not be a problem
that a business has closed years ago. They only close it when all the
paperwork is done.
Not saying that it wouldn't be useful as a backup, if we were allowed.
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seen iny own use of the data, it could be a help, but not much more than
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Hi,
I just finished a little article on the growth of different kinds of roads
in Flanders. It's got animated maps!
(and boring statistics)
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/diary/40472
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binnen de administratie, dus ik vermoed dat er nog meer plaatsen
zijn waar de datakwaliteit veel beter is dan in de dump van november 2015.
(uiteraard doen we geen blinde import enzo, maar waarom zou je niet gewoon
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Math1985 is niet de eerste de beste hoor, die doet véél binnen OSM.
Ik ben er ook geen voorstander van om zo veel notes te maken, maar als ze
er nu eenmaal zijn vind ik wel dat we ze moeten oplossen.
Ik had bij de laatste meetup in Brussel bij drie van die Notes info
toegevoegd om ze te kunnen
>
> can you see the direction of the way in MapContrib ?
>
It is not built into Mapcontrib. But I gave it some thought, and I think it
can't be very hard to work around that:
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/54584/overpass-get-way-direction
(overpass query specialists, this one is for
s better?
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ade with cached (updated daily) overpass queries, but
you can also import other data into mapcontrib and use that for mapping.
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We now have a 360 readership.
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As suggested by Mikel, I created a wiki catalog page about the subject:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMapforGovernment
It's just an outline, I'll try to add some stuff from this conversation
over the following days; but you're welcome to do that first yourself :)
I'm not quite
y help (bouhouho…)
>
>
>
> If I can avoid giving the introduction, I would prefer but if necessery I
> can (try to) do that too !
>
>
>
> \o/
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>
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> Jonathan Beliën
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and opportunities there. I believe the
Canadian Census is going that way. Are there any other projects in this
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- just being around and helping people with questions
- validating (even from home) during the event, so we can correct newbie
mappers before they make the same mistake a thousand times
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(waarmee ik bedoel : die mensen schrijven in hun tweede taal, dus daar kan
al eens een fout in staan)
Op 27 jan. 2017 10:29 schreef "joost schouppe" <joost.schou...@gmail.com>:
Neen, met Russen.
Op 27 januari 2017 om 10:05 schreef Philippe Casteleyn <
philippecastel...@
ass, natural=grass, landuse=meadow, landuse=farmland + some
other tags etc)
The other is removing LOL-parks from the dataset :)
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Because in the process, you'll find beautiful nonsense like this:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/469253289/history
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your opinion on
these shops first. Most of these shops are in the U.K. but I wanted to ask
here first, as here I know these places myself; I don't know what they look
like in the UK)
1: https://www.mapcontrib.xyz/t/7865e7-Fair_trade_shops
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Tuurlijk wel: gewoon in de query van Ruben "Vlaanderen" vervangen door
"West-Vlaanderen".
Er is een speciale Tag om aan te geven dat de reden van de maxspeed
urban/rural is. Is er ook geen Tag om aan te geven dat de reden voor
maxspeed een verkeersbord is? Dan hebben we geen nood aan tijdelijke
extended the poll by one week to the beginning of
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> Le 2017-01-18 11:32, joost schouppe a écrit :
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Hoi,
Iemand die tijd heeft om met iemand van de brandweer te gaan babbelen over
OSM, in het Turnhoutse?
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help.
There's a viewer too BTW:
https://osmlab.github.io/editor-layer-index/
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zou hebben) Het is wel een multipolygoon geworden,
om gemakkelijk om te kunnen gaan met uitgezonderde wegen (vooral de Ring)
Ik heb overigens zelf wat finetuning aan die polygoon gedaan, dus als je
rare dingen zou spotten, laat het mij zeker weten!
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