Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

Anthony wrote: On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: This rule means that everything that is traced from Bing before OSM stops publishing under CC-BY-SA will be available to the world, forever, under CC-BY-SA. But a hypothetical CC-BY-SA fork would

[OSM-talk] Anyone read the CC0 legal code?

Hi Read it and I've come to ask if anyone has read http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode too. (it is a waiver of copyright so don't be afraid to read it. It is very short, for a legal text, that is) After all.. if there is a checkbox called public domain in the OSM

[OSM-legal-talk] Waiving attribution illegal in any country/-ies?

Hi, Previously I've been wanting a Public Domain(PD) map multilicensed under various PD licenses like CC0, WTFPL etc...but is this even possible? (waiving attribution requirement) From my little knowledge... in Australia you can't waive the attribution right. Hypothetically if there was a

[OSM-talk] Anonymous edits on OpenStreetMap through Tor

Hi, is anyone contributing to OpenStreetMap by using Tor? (the onion router) Is there any opinion from anyone about this? Tor is used to strengthen ones privacy by the technology trying to prevent revealing the ip address of the user. Regards, Niklas -- signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding the full name of a business

Hi, I got 2 more images that I took today. Do you think that I can add full names for professions like doctors, dentists, lawyers from these signs. Please look at them first and then tell me your view. What would you do? http://www.flickr.com/photos/54087...@n04/5046842757/

[OSM-talk] Choosing license for gps traces

Hi, I wish that one could select some license for the gps traces.(they are after all a good basic source where a contributor owns all copyright rights. What is the current best way of selecting a license or other legal document for one's gps traces? Simply stating it on own osm user page?

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding the full name of a business

Hi, Richard Weait wrote: I've put up some examples. It would be great to see more examples, and exceptions, from other places. http://weait.com/content/whats-name Your photos were interesting to view and I also found your notes in relation to the photos to be helpful. Myself today I took

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding the full name of a business

Hi, On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 11:21 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: this is legally not correct, while it might be assumable for most cases that it will go well. People have to agree to be listed in phone directories, but that doesn't imply that they also want to be listed on other services

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

Hi, John Smith wrote: I really wish someone would have the backbone to fess up and say OSM will now go in this direction, or OSM is going in that direction, I find that the above quoted text states that it would be better if someone takes a decision for us, so we don't lose time discussing. Did

[OSM-talk] Adding the full name of a business

Hi, I was walking through the city of Thessaloniki today and was looking out for businesses that don't have a cover name like McDonald's or Starbucks but for small businesses like an office of a translator where outside of it(the office) you can see the full name of a person. I also went close

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding the full name of a business

Hi list, On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 15:22 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP How do you handle this issue when adding doctors or businesses that have their full name (first and last name) included? I use the large

[OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

Rob Myers typed: (IANAL, TINLA.) Abbreviations causes me headaches: IANAL = I am not a lawyer and TINLA = This is not legal advice -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ legal-talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] layers in OSM?

Hi, But if the community at large has decided against layers in the past I'm interested to hear why. Personally I've not decided anything. My opinions may change over time with new arguments and as I learn new information. One thing I wonder though. Is it possible for an openstreetmap editor in

[OSM-talk] Correlated photos on GPS traces - fine adjusted on OSM maps under CC-0?

Hi, One of my sources(source=*) that I use for streets are geotagged photos, which I link to directly at the website where they are hosted. Sometimes when I see that the photo geoposition isn't the way I want it(knowing that the street sign in my city is on the corner of a building usually), I

Re: [OSM-talk] Can OSM sources be public domain CC-0(zero)?

Hi, take the coordinates from Google Earth/Maps. I will not. That is a non-free source, the same reason I do not look/consider Wikimapia(google maps based) or any other proprietary maps. OSM may currently be the freest data collection that exists (since CC-BY-SA-3.0 is legally invalid for OSM

[OSM-talk] ethnio.com javascripts loaded on osm user registration page

Hi, Because I'm curious to read how new users see openstreetmap when they register (and also a curious chance to see the new contributor terms :) ) I went to the registration page of openstreetmap https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/new . Why does that page load scripts from ethnio.com? Those

[OSM-talk] Can OSM sources be public domain CC-0(zero)?

Hello, When I map, sometimes I add sources to my contributions. It could be a bus route relation where I may add the GPS trace I took while riding the bus as the source for the route. Other times if I name a street I may use a geotagged/geolocated photo of the street sign as a source.(thus

[OSM-talk] Greek cadastre authority - received a reply

Hi list, I got a response from geodata.gov.gr, in a private email (thus I can't publish it here, but a summary). There will be an announcement in the future, on osm mailing lists(if I interpreted the reply correctly). Also I am asked to be patient and not use the data in OSM, before there is an

[OSM-talk] Greek cadastre authority/-ies giving Public, Open Data - Orthophotos covering the whole country of Greece

Hi, I got notified by a fellow mapper about that the Greek governmental cadastre organisation wants to release data to the public (orthophotos 'aerials') covering all or large parts of Greece. I've checked the orthophotos('aerials') for my city, Thessaloniki and they are ok, maybe a bit more

[OSM-talk] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/logictheo/edits

Hi, ...thus I take the chance for a little more guidance(never hurts), why not comment on my edits? http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/logictheo/edits . I hope you will have an interesting read. Regards, Niklas ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] Greek cadastre authority - draft letter pending

of OpenStreetMap which can be found at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk . I think signup to the mailing list is required which is common with mailing lists. Kind regards, Niklas Cholmkvist /message Regards, Niklas ___ talk mailing list talk

[OSM-talk] Greek cadastre authority - draft letter pending

Hello everyone, I finally sent the message to the info email at geodata.gov.gr 'as is'(just as I published it on the list with subject and message body). I hope first that they will reply here, because if I get a private email I can't disclose it. (although I could maybe tell a summary, that

Re: [OSM-talk] Data release template letter

Hi, Hello, Is there somewhere a template letter to send to an administration to ask for some data release explaining the OSM project and the process and consequences of releasing their data in an acceptable form for OSM? Thanks, N. This is a template letter I have that I think

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

Hello all, Frederik Ramm typed: SNIP You mean that to keep pace with Waze and Google Map Maker, we should simply drop the libertarian bullshit and become just another company with top-down decision making and a marketing department that does whatever seems best? Just because others manage

[OSM-talk] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

Hi, Maybe a read in osmtools? I also just discovered that page. It even provides instructions on what one can install on one's system to make the software run. libwww-perl. Does one maybe need a configured webserver for it to run? From what I read on wikipedia of [[Library_for_WWW_in_Perl]] maybe

Re: [OSM-talk] WikiProject_FLOSS (was: OSM composer not open source?)

Στις 02-05-2010, ημέρα Κυρ, και ώρα 13:01 +0200, ο/η jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com έγραψε: Thats a great idea! I have started to add some subproject ideas. I added an Introduction at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_FLOSS . I didn't put very much effort in the Introduction and I'm

[OSM-talk] OSM composer not open source?

Hi, big snip interest of OSM users in general, people want to know how to use the data as much as create it. Mind you, Mike has done plenty of free promotion on this list for this closed source software, which is funny in an ironic sense because he's had the opposite effect that he set out

Re: [OSM-talk] Military objects in RU: warning about status

I've locked the following 2 pages for edits at the moment. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Key:military http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Tag:landuse%3Dmilitary ok. Now lets all cool off and re-analyse the problem. I checked

Re: [OSM-talk] sanity check for maintaining GPS tracks

maning sent: I have hundreds of GPS tracks. Some are uploaded in OSM, some I forgot to upload. Some are clean, some are dirty, some are squiggly and some are a big cloud of points pointing to my house. Are you troubled about privacy? (you mention points, pointing to your house) Many of my gps

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing closedstreetmap.org

Google, Waze and OSMF have partsnip Just to users of OSM from countries and cultures that do not know about April the 1st, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools% 27_Day I was born in Sweden. April fools is very popular there. I live in Greece now and here it is not popular or

Re: [OSM-talk] Moving to Java 1.6 not so easy to swallow

Hello, Greg Troxel typed: (Yes, I know about openjdk, and I've tried to run josm and mkgmap under it on NetBSD/i386. So far I'm not having a successful experience.) Using only free software, regardless if it is permissive or copyleft, JOSM works for me using OpenJDK 6. I have the

[OSM-talk] Preferred Languages on https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/putusernamehere/account

Hi, Does the field for Preferred Languages have any purpose? Does it change the language of the user interface of the website? I tried to change it from English to Greek by putting in el, but to save the change I had to put in my password. Later it said I had to do something about my email. I

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM will move to Java6

Richard Fairhurst: Personally? I don't give a shit about free software. Or respectability. cheers Richard OK. May I then conclude mine and your off-topic posts ended on this thread? So it's up for anyone else to post on-topic replies regarding this topic. Kind regards, Niklas --

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM will move to Java6

Richard Fairhurst wrote: multiple snips ...JOSM in anticipation of imminent Potlatch 2 wondrousness. How can potlatch be respectable if it is based on non-free software? (non-free flash, and you can't touch their source code!) You can run JOSM using only libre and/or open source software. Not

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

Richard Weait typed: snip What is it about these streets that requires areas? Does this extend to your town and state as well? I think it is because I like to map with much detail. I like to map it 'as it really is'. That is not the only reason. Maybe it's how the map looks also in various

[OSM-talk] I ordered my first personal camera so I can do 'photomapping' or 'geotagging'

Hi, I own a cell phone which can take pictures, but it doesn't store pictures in exif format. After much research over time it seems I couldn't even add exif by hand to the pictures I took with it.(with the purpose to put the modification date in exif format in the picture by hand) Yesterday I

[OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

Hi, I use a 'distribution based on Debian Lenny', 'Ubuntu Karmic 9.10' and 'a distribution based on Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04'. When I photo map I take some photos which I later synchronise with a GPS trace, to know with the most precision where I had taken the photos. I would like to put the lat long

[OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

I live in a place where I feel the need to map some streets as areas. If I start a little of such mapping, will routing software get confused? Regards, Niklas -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu

Unless they remove their NC (Non Commercial Use Only) clause Yes. That clause was the exact reason I left the mapping project wikimapia to search for a more free/libre mapping collaboration project(I was not expecting that most of the software used in OpenStreetMap was/is floss, and it was a

Re: [OSM-talk] New Year's wish...

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.dk wrote: I have a small New Year's wish to the developers of the OSM website. When going to the history tab, it would be soo nice if you could optionally remove all entries marked (big) from the listing. snip We could maybe

Re: [OSM-talk] Sourcing street names - what's the policy, and why?

Regarding adding a source to names of nodes/ways: For example for Klious street: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/36115806 . I use the same source for the nearby street Perseus street: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27405804 . You can see the image hosting site I linked to

Re: [OSM-talk] What is there to be won by having a License

I still have to see the advantage of having a license at all. Do you live in a country that has signed the Berne Convention? You can see here at wikipedia if your country is involved: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_international_copyright_agreements Having no license at all and

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF: The people you are going to hand over your OSM data ...

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: great-snip There's no safeguard, for example, that prevents the OSMF from changing the Contributor Terms.  They can do that at any point in the future without any kind of vote or other formality.  That's a pretty big hole in itself

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert of two changesets

Please contact the user and explain why his changesets were reverted. his/her Regards, Niklas -- Niklas Holmkvist ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Automatically Matching Photos to GPS traces in JOSM - EXIF data needed

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, In JOSM I'm trying to match photos with my gps traces, but my camera doesn't save any EXIF data, so I use exiftool to add EXIF data to it. What EXIF data does JOSM use to position the photo? I managed to add the DateTimeOriginal or Date Taken:

[OSM-talk] Garmin eTrex Vista HCx - maps from openstreetmap

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, what formats can I put on the micro sd card for this device to read? So far I've managed to put a gpx file (which I converted from osm data using JOSM), in it. I thought it would use the gpx file as a map. Can that be done? -BEGIN PGP

Re: [OSM-talk] Hello from a probably new contributor

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In Thessaloniki, have you tried the free wifi spot in Kamara? (by the Municipality of Thessaloniki) I've not yet used wifi, so I don't know if that spot works. It's the one marked as free wifi spot:

[OSM-talk] Putting as little load as possible on the main OSM server

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, in an attempt to put less load on the www.openstreetmap.org server, I select the link of the bounding box in the mapping application I use(JOSM) and copy and paste it in my web browser. Then I click on the export tab and download the data as a