Re: [Talk-GB] Updated GB cycle lanes map

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Childs
On 2 October 2012 09:55, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.comwrote: I've updated my map of GB cycle lanes (and quiet cycle routes). Rendered using Geofabrik/Osmosis/Maperitive. Now with OdbL data... http://www.transportparadise.co.uk/DualCycleNetworkMap/ It looks to me like

Re: [Talk-GB] London Underground roundel

2010-03-25 Thread Peter Childs
On 25 March 2010 15:03, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: On 25 March 2010 14:50, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Tom Chance wrote: We only do it for public services, That is going to be one hell of a definition problem. Isn't London Underground run by some kind of

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network - filling the gaps

2010-03-08 Thread Peter Childs
On 8 March 2010 14:46, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Gregory wrote: On 8 March 2010 02:23, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: - *To complete the C2C*: Forest section near Keswick - the one gap in our coverage of the NCN's most popular route! The end of the mapped

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network - filling the gaps

2010-03-08 Thread Peter Childs
On 8 March 2010 15:37, Gregory Williams gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk wrote: -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Peter Childs Sent: 8 March 2010 15:24 To: Richard Fairhurst Cc: talk-gb OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] HOT ready? Concepción, Chile eart hquake

2010-02-27 Thread Peter Childs
On the subject of Earth Quakes, Do we have the plate / fault boundaries tagged, and can we get them rendered, It might help see exactly what's going on geographically speaking Peter. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Looking for places to map?

2010-02-24 Thread Peter Childs
On 25 February 2010 03:30, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: On 24 February 2010 01:16, Peter Reed peter.r...@aligre.co.uk wrote: Steve, It needn't be parishes. For population data it looks as though I can get down to ward level with up-to-date numbers from ONS. http

Re: [Talk-GB] Change Set Error: 3552319

2010-02-21 Thread Peter Childs
On 21 February 2010 07:14, WessexMario wessexmario-...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: If the whole changeset was removed it might erase some correct mapping that he did. Isn't the principle supposed to be: It's better to lave less known correct mapping, than lots of mapping some of which is complete

Re: [OSM-talk] Should roads be connected to all types of crossing ways?

2010-02-15 Thread Peter Childs
On 15 February 2010 12:11, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/02/2010, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Your router example still works.  Even if you and I aren't going to turn left at highway=railway;

Re: [OSM-talk] Why doesn't OSM implement a simple measure to protectit's users and passwords?

2009-12-22 Thread Peter Childs
2009/12/22 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: There also does not appear to be any provision on the OSM web site for changing to a new password, which is something that one should do occasionally.  At least, if there is a way to do so, I haven't found it. Select your name at the top,

Re: [OSM-talk] Ditches

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Childs
2009/12/15 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: IMHO, tagging layer=1 bridge=yes for a road going over water is an example of a hack, and tagging for the renderer. The information bridge=1 is more than enough to render with, so layer=1 can *only*

Re: [OSM-talk] Ditches

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Childs
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: Steve Bennett wrote: Alight, I've had enough of this. You've had enough of it!!!  After nearly fifty emails about how to tag a ditch with a bridge over it in a few hours I think

Re: [OSM-talk] Dual/Multiple licencing

2009-12-14 Thread Peter Childs
2009/12/14 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au: Maybe I missed something in the discussion but... Why must there be migration to the new licence?  Why can't we run both indefinitely? Because there are things you can do with one that you can't do with the other, and there are things you

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Fwd: Re: Why PD is not better for business

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Childs
2009/12/11 paul youlten paul.youl...@gmail.com: Dave, Clearly all those things, and much more, can and should be mapped. They can all be seen on the street and they all have public access. I agree: If it's a physical entity then it can be mapped. ++ What is less clear is what happens if

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Fwd: Re: Why PD is not better for business

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Childs
2009/12/11 paul youlten paul.youl...@gmail.com: Peter, That sounds bad. Can you give us some examples? PY On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: 2009/12/11 paul youlten paul.youl...@gmail.com: Dave, Clearly all those things, and much more, can and should

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Fwd: Re: Why PD is not better for business

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Childs
2009/12/11 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com: 2009/12/11 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org Hmm Maybe these have not all died but the split did cause serious damage. X (You now have a choice of X.org and XFree86), The split caused a long halt in development and the original is hardly used

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-04 Thread Peter Childs
2009/12/4 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2009/12/4 Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.dk There's nothing you can do with drawing that can't be done with tagging, and there's in principle nothing being done with tagging that can't be rendered beautifully on the final map. It only

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-30 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/30 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: An area of grass is - to me - not a path. A path, IMHO, is something that exists independently of people walking or not walking on it (i.e. usually you can *see*

Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?

2009-11-21 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/21 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/11/21 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: If we had an application, that could read osm and render on the fly we could have any zoom level we like, including zoom levels between zoom levels, (ie vector graphics) In theory Potlatch already does

Re: [OSM-talk] Isn't it time for a higher zoom level?

2009-11-20 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/20 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org: On Saturday 21 Nov 2009 4:59:47 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Saturday 21 Nov 2009 2:14:35 am Arlindo Pereira wrote: Probably this should be targeted for a more specific list like mapnik-, but I'd like to hear (er, read) what do you think

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/18 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: Liz schrieb: On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Peter Childs wrote: What I would like to do is write a script that takes the planet and gives a list of the places (towns, villages etc) and a polygon/area for each place. Please leave australia out of your

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/18 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/11/18 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com: 2009/11/18 Liz ed...@billiau.net On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Peter Childs wrote: What I would like to do is write a script that takes the planet and gives a list of the places (towns, villages

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-15 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/14 Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk: On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: Looking at this the new Nominatim service seams to do 85% of what I need, and might do more at a pinch. (Only found the service when I logged into IRC tonight

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-14 Thread Peter Childs
Looking at this the new Nominatim service seams to do 85% of what I need, and might do more at a pinch. (Only found the service when I logged into IRC tonight) I'll have to have a look before I start reinventing the wheel. Peter. ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/13 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/11/13 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: The is_in tag is not a lot of use either due to it being inconsistent. I thought is_in is depreciated and replaced by polygons? While I don't think this list would be worth piping back

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/13 Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk: On Fri, November 13, 2009 16:43, Peter Childs wrote: Any ideas. You could calculate node density (nodes/km2) and assume that node density will decay from the centre of a town to the edge.  This would work for the nodes in ways, since

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/13 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/11/13 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: My first though was for an generated list rather than entered boarders, however thinking again this might need some human intervention to work properly. Boundaries are just as much arbitary

Re: [OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-13 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/13 Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 07:43:20AM +, Peter Childs wrote: However in OSM places are points not area's and the areas we do have are either to do with admin (ie Counties, Borough's etc) and hence are rather less than helpful. The is_in tag

[OSM-talk] What Streets are in what Places

2009-11-12 Thread Peter Childs
I'm trying to find away to place streets in to places, so I can automatcally know the xxx street is in xxx town. However in OSM places are points not area's and the areas we do have are either to do with admin (ie Counties, Borough's etc) and hence are rather less than helpful. The is_in tag is

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building around the Angel area of London?

2009-11-11 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/11 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Ed Loach wrote: Why do we have to try and get multiple logos rendered on Mapnik, rather than anyone who wants to use different renderings in a specific area rendering their own? They have access to the data after all. Indeed. We shouldn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Childs
While the map quaility may have some weight as to why people use Google (or Bing for that matter) I suspect the bigger problem is the User Interface. We have a good UI for map making maps but the API for rending and searching the maps is hmm well complicated. Part of the problem stems from there

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] alley - for tree-lined roads?

2009-11-04 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/4 Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk On Wed, November 4, 2009 10:25, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Tuesday 03 Nov 2009 8:12:55 pm Peter Childs wrote: Participially if the trees overhang the road, and may get in the way of Busses (that often have to brush past them

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] alley - for tree-lined roads?

2009-11-03 Thread Peter Childs
2009/11/3 Hillsman, Edward hills...@cutr.usf.edu Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:54:32 + From: Robert rop...@online.de Subject: [OSM-talk] [tagging] alley - for tree-lined roads? Hello, We are discussing in talk-de (German board) just streets and other ways with many trees nearby. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Roadside Distance Markers

2009-10-23 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/23 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com 2009/10/23 mle i...@dynoyo.plus.com: Hi Folks - on a recent survey, I mapped some roads with modern km markers by the side of the road. How should these be mapped - As a node within the highway, or a separate single node to the side of

Re: [Talk-GB] maposmatic for the UK?

2009-10-23 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/23 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com I was at a meeting with our county council yesterday evening to discuss 'strategic cycle routes' in my town for inclusion in the official cycling strategy which will be applicable for the next decade. It was a very good and useful meeting,

Re: [Talk-GB] maposmatic - update

2009-10-23 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/23 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com Ok, so after looking a bit more carefully and reading their blog[1] it says that they are working on the performance issues associated with running a global service. Regards, Peter [1] http://news.maposmatic.org/

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/20 Lesi l...@lesi.is-a-geek.net Hello, based on an old (abandoned) proposal and on a discussion in the German board I have created a new proposal for tagging mineshafts: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Mineshaft In addition to this proposal I would like to

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/21 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com Anthony schrieb: Disused canal, fine. Disused railway, sure. Disused building, no problem. Disused quarry, yes. But disused cafe? A cafe is a building, or part of a building, which is *used* as a cafe. The use is part of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Inaccurate Sea Boundary of England

2009-10-16 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/15 Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com: John Robert Peterson jrp@... writes: Don't you mean the French Channel? :PJR Good question.  Names of seas and oceans aren't currently shown on the main OSM slippy map; are they tagged anywhere? Well, The Bristol Channel has got a node, and is

Re: [OSM-talk] Instead of voting

2009-10-09 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/9 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hi, Matt Amos wrote: 1) Just map. 2) Use existing keys if you can. 3) Use existing tags if you can. 4) If you used a tag that isn't in the wiki, document your use of the tag, so that other people won't use your tag to mean something else. this

Re: [OSM-talk] England, Wales, Scotland borders

2009-10-07 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/7 Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com: Peter Childs pchilds at bcs.org writes: The regional development agencies have quite big budgets, actually. But I'd agree that England needs to have it's own level. I think admin_level=5 and an update to the wiki might be the best move. I might have

Re: [OSM-talk] England, Wales, Scotland borders

2009-10-06 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/6 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com: The regional development agencies have quite big budgets, actually. But I'd agree that England needs to have it's own level. I think admin_level=5 and an update to the wiki might be the best move. Peter.

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail lawyers demand closure of postcode lookup site

2009-10-06 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/6 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com: First strike! [jobcentre-plus seem to have been using this data].  Two more, and we should cut-off the government's internet connection ;) Actually I think its more along the line of a company that knows its head is on the line. The SCO stuff a few

[OSM-talk] EGNOS

2009-10-05 Thread Peter Childs
I'm sure EGNOS is something else other than the new Euro GPS system, but I can't for the life of me remember what, something to do with food and Christmas rings a bell but I can't think what. Anyway so EGNOS is now available for use. So what new things can we do with this new available

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-01 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/1 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Would it be a good compromise to say: 1. a software application should always check boolean against yes/true/1 and not only yes 2. the wiki shoudl recommend the yes 3. a bot is setup to

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-01 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/1 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: The problem with this is that things are never that black and white there are aways shades of Grey. Simple Parsing might be quite happy with Yes/No or True/False, but 2 might mean something

Re: [Talk-GB] 'High speed one' rail

2009-10-01 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/1 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com: Is this break in it intentional? http://osm.org/go/0EDRRyA6 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb One Word, Liam123 The last change to both ends

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/29 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Peter Childs wrote: 2009/9/28 Mark Williams mark@blueyonder.co.uk: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 courtland.yoc...@mindspring.com wrote: I've been thinking a bit about this from a very different perspective - that of parks

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/30 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Or better still, train dogs to walk only under hedges and fit them with a GPS :-) What tag should we use for territorial pissings? ;) I think that would have to be an admin_level=11 or maybe 12. Peter.

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/29 Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de: Am 28.09.2009 20:40, Pieren: Hi all, This is not my proposal but this tag is used by the Corine Land Cover current import in France corresponding to the class 2.2.2 of this european program (Agricultural areas -  Permanent crops -  Fruit trees and berry

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-28 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/28 Mark Williams mark@blueyonder.co.uk: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 courtland.yoc...@mindspring.com wrote: I've been thinking a bit about this from a very different perspective - that of parks and other open public areas where you might not have a chance to

Re: [Talk-transit] Bus stops not in naptan

2009-09-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/18 Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk: Was there an agreement reached on how to tag bus stops that aren't in naptan? I verified 2 last night when out walking that I could see on the Mapnik layer only to find when I got back that they were two that I added in the dim and distant past (last

Re: [Talk-transit] London Bridge

2009-09-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/18 Frankie Roberto fran...@frankieroberto.com: 2009/9/18 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org Its very difficult as London Bridge is based on about 6 layers with random escalators, lifts and ramps connecting it up. I'm thinking the building should only cover parts with a roof on and hence

Re: [Talk-transit] London Bridge

2009-09-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/18 Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk: Peter asked: Anyone got a Zoom Layer beyond level 19 so I can see what I'm doing and pace the station out.. JOSM. I think you can just keep zooming in. It also displays the length (and bearing) of the current way you're adding. Useful in some

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123's latest

2009-09-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/18 David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com: ***PLEASE*** PULL THE PLUG ON HIM! Is it a good idea to remove the Live Change Feature in Potlatch for everyone. I'm thinking this is the cause for a lot of our problems. I can't see why anyone would want it any more anyway. Its a dangerous

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/16 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Hi, My understanding is that rural roads (country lanes as they are called in the UK) should be highway=unclassified. However if there is a small housing

Re: [Talk-GB] NOVAM viewer

2009-09-15 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/15 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 15 Sep 2009, at 08:27, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone Shelter = yes/no I think is essential to leave in as a requirement as to whether a bus stop is completley surveyed or not. For two reasons: indication of a shelter is a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Data Used in Upcoming Monopoly Game

2009-09-09 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/9 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Perhaps they are using OSM for data, dividing up the world into streets that players can buy and sell, but rendering the Google Maps tiles underneath. That seems a bit lame. I'm playing

Re: [Talk-GB] Chester Zoo: feedback requested

2009-09-06 Thread Peter Childs
2009/9/6 Dan Karran d...@karran.net: Frankie, Is there really a bridleway right through the middle? Doesn't that play havock with the paying to get in? There is indeed! It's kept completely separate from the zoo though by walls on both sides. It's crossed by two bridges and the monorail. I

[OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Childs
Am I missing something, But it would help if the Reply-to header on all messages that go through the list(s) gets set to the list email, so that when we hit reply the message goes to the list by default. This is the way most of the other lists I'm on work, and its a bit annoying having to use

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Mailing List Reply To Header

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Childs
I was only trying to sort out what I find to be an annoyance and a possible cause of why we get a lot of emails on this list without answers. I did not mean to start a holy war. Personally I think Email needs a complete and utter re-design from the ground up. Its not fit for the purpose it is now

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag lanes, not ways, was: Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Childs
Sorry for thinking out loud but here we go. A Way can have many lanes, Infact the default is lanes=2 (or is it?) oneway=yes infers lanes=1 lanes can be used for many purposes including turning, parking, walking cycling. Lanes need names I guess partially if we all going to use them to describe

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/28 wynnd...@lavabit.com: On 27/08/09 12:13, Jack Stringer wrote: lock=yes lock_name=Withrington Bottom Lock When you are tagging a way, you can't use name= because that will already contain the name of the canal. Hence lock_name=. Why would you want to repeat the name of a canal

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/28 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Peter Childs wrote: The Canal way will need to be split at the lock gates, (or in some cases where a diversion starts (due to some rivers going over weirs) while there is a lock for boats. (UK-specific tagging stuff follows) Ideally I'd

Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

2009-08-27 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/26 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Renaud Martinet wrote: I guess that the highway tag used to describe physical features of different types of roads back when OSM was quite UK-centric. Nope - UK highway tagging, which was of course the original, has always largely been

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-27 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/27 Jack Stringer jack.ix...@googlemail.com: Just looking at Keepright and I can see loads of waterway=lock What is the preferred way to record the information? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dlock_gate Shows to tag both ends of the lock. If there is a name just to

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-27 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/27 Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net: Note that by requiring a junction, you make it impossible to model stop signs don't involve a junction. I don't know how frequent these occur, but I can imagine cases where there is a sharp curve before which you're required to stop. And I believe

Re: [Talk-GB] Uk Missing Major Roads.

2009-08-27 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/26 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 26 Aug 2009, at 10:08, Chris Hill wrote: The orange (maybe brownish) roads can be secondary, tertiary or unclassified.  I've compared the NPE roads to some roads that I know well and they cover what I would say are secondary, tertiary or

Re: [Talk-GB] Uk Missing Major Roads.

2009-08-27 Thread Peter Childs
Would it be useful to validate our classification and labelling of roads in OSM against the relevant WIkipedia article[2]. Yes, But I'm still a little unclear from is as to what makes a trunk road trunk. I'm wondering if a render that ignores the classification but takes notice of lanes=? and

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-25 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/25 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: How can mapping out a node not be simple? It is a lot simpler than mapping out a relation or splitting a way etc etc etc and the only thing that benefits from stop sign information is routing software, editors don't, mappers don't so making it

[Talk-GB] Uk Missing Major Roads.

2009-08-25 Thread Peter Childs
I was trying to fill in a few gaps in what I thought was where by looking at the Out Of Copyright OS Maps at http://www.npemap.org.uk Would it be right to suggest that all Orange Roads on this old map (should they still exist) including any obvious diversions are either Secondary (and should have

Re: [OSM-talk] Escalators and Travalators

2009-08-23 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/23 Mike Harris mik...@googlemail.com: Could I ask the architects whether their down-to-up convention applies to escalators as well (cf. current discussion on 'steps') - given that they are moving steps - or only to up-escalators (;) ... Also steps where a One-Way System applies (even

[Talk-GB] Gravesend Mapping Party Plans

2009-08-23 Thread Peter Childs
Quick date for your Diaries Mapping Party in Gravesend 10th/11th October 2009 See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GravesendMappingParty for more details Hope to see you there. Peter. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] District Boundaries - N Wales

2009-08-23 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/23 David Dixon da...@ddixon.force9.co.uk: In short, Wales includes the adjacent sea - don't ask me to what distance from land though! One would infer from that that it includes all Uk waters round Wales (is that 20km or something), except where that would meet other national water,

[OSM-talk] Escalators and Travalators

2009-08-22 Thread Peter Childs
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Escalator I'm trying to work out how to tag Escalators I'm not sure the current tagging it clear, or even partially useful. This ties in Greatly with the long running Path discussion.. There seams to be no clear way to tag Moving Walkways

Re: [OSM-talk] Escalators and Travalators

2009-08-22 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/22 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Peter Childs wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Escalator I'm trying to work out how to tag Escalators I'm not sure the current tagging it clear, or even partially useful. I wouldn't call this current tagging. That page

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009-08-22 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/22 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Sun, 23/8/09, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk wrote: I realize it wont be possible to compute elevation gradients tomorrow, but why not plan ahead? Who would've thought a few years ago that the project would be so far advanced?

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - miniature railway

2009-08-19 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/19 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Wed, 19/8/09, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: Are Miniture Railways a British Thing, or is it that they appear most often in the Uk? (Making us Brits a load of Train enthusiasts) There seems to be a number of them around Australia

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - miniature railway

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/16 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Sun, 16/8/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I'd recommend synchronising this with wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniature_railway A lot of work has been done there between the various types of model/miniature railway,

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - miniature railway

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/18 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 18 Aug 2009, at 17:47, Peter Childs wrote: 2009/8/16 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Sun, 16/8/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I'd recommend synchronising this with wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] conditions as part of value/key

2009-08-11 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/8 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: maxspeed:vehicle:weather = hgv;wet;value1|motorcycle;wet;value2 Actually that's quite readable... We already use the : format for translations, so why don't use it for time periods and the weather. Make sence to me. Very useful for parking

Re: [Talk-GB] Progress on estimating coverage

2009-08-10 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/10 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: It's good to see continuing progress with English boundaries. I have added Leicestershire council and Plymouth UA to the English Boundaries page. However... I can't find find an administrative boundaries for Derbyshire County Council or for

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-09 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/8 Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Jeffrey Martindogs...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we want different policies for different areas and different kinds of data. For example once all the roads are mapped we freeze the roads, but we allow free changing

[Talk-GB] Sand Bar

2009-08-05 Thread Peter Childs
How to I tag a Sand Bar that extends 50meters in the sea at low tide and disappears at High Tide. Its called The Street and its in Tankerton, Kent. Uk http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=0.2519539minlat=51.2615685maxlon=0.6075064maxlat=51.5630983box=yes There is also a life guard station that

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-30 Thread Peter Childs
2009/7/30 Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net: On 30/07/09 09:26, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) wrote: much more. Since many countries have two different signs for max legal height and max physical height, and its usages can be very different, why not allow this in tags? Can you provide sample

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding unofficial cycle routes

2009-07-28 Thread Peter Childs
2009/7/27 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:04 PM, John McKerrellj...@mckerrell.net wrote: How about a bus route? Though there's bus stops along the way there's no arrows or anything like that saying bus route goes this way. Not trying to be difficult, just

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding unofficial cycle routes

2009-07-27 Thread Peter Childs
2009/7/27 John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net: On 27 Jul 2009, at 15:02, Jonathan Bennett wrote: Furthermore, unless the group has based its maps on OSM in the first place, the chances are there will be a derived data problem -- who owns the original mapping the routes were plotted against?

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartford Mapping Party

2009-07-24 Thread Peter Childs
a long way in the wrong direction, when most of the stuff to be mapped is closer.. Peter Childs ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [OSM-talk] Tests in the Antarctica?

2009-07-20 Thread Peter Childs
2009/7/20 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Does anyone know if these are real-world representations or just spam? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-66.662lon=50.799zoom=11layers=B000FTF cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list

[Talk-GB] Chatham Town Centre

2009-07-20 Thread Peter Childs
If anyone happens to be in Chatham, it needs remapping (again), they have removed a major flyover and are looking and further work. Not sure how much data we can extract from Medway's website, http://www.medway.gov.uk/index/business/medwayrenaissance/chathamfuture.htm without copyright issues. Or

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Residential home

2009-07-17 Thread Peter Childs
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Re: [OSM-talk] access=destination valid only in one direction

2009-07-10 Thread Peter Childs
2009/7/10 Stanislav Brabec u...@penguin.cz: Hallo. Is there a way how to map a street with access=destination valid just only for one direction? In the reverse direction it is a standard drive through street. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/30764132 The standard way to do this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping party suggestion for SOTM

2009-07-09 Thread Peter Childs
2009/7/9 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl: On Thursday 09 July 2009 02:52:04 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Only to find to my disappointment that not only did the map of Amsterdam not have an area (or even a POI!) for the Red Light district Main Problem I can see with mapping Red Light Districts

Re: [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread Peter Childs
2009/7/9 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: Tracing rivers and such on OSM gave me an idea for a possible way to promote OSM, geography students. I mean what better way to teach kids about geography than doing a little cartography :) Back when I was at School, If I could have done a

[OSM-talk] Launching bestofosm.org

2009-07-07 Thread Peter Childs
2009/7/7 Martijn van Exel mve...@gmail.com: Great! Very useful for presentations and workshops as well. Love it. How about zoos? * Antwerp http://osm.org/go/0EpZNzMEN- * Berlin http://osm.org/go/0MZu8WGXg- * Amsterdam http://osm.org/go/0...@61hts- There's bound to be more micromapped zoos!

Re: [Talk-GB] Tooting Bec Lido

2009-07-03 Thread Peter Childs
2009/7/3 Mike osm-talk...@norgie.net: Folks, Just looking at Tooting Bec Lido on the Map.  I see that the site is marked as a lesure area.  I was wondering if it was also appropriate to map the pool as it's outside and if so, how one would tag it? Mike. This is not that easy, Tag it

Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Railway route relations

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Childs
Forgive me for asking. How does the Route Code relate to the number on the front of the Train. eg Charing Cross to Gillingham via Lewisham has a 62 on the front but if it goes via Greenwich its 85 (I think) Does the number on the front of the time-table mean anything? Oh and the Routes listed

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding OpenStreetMap map into wordpress.com post

2009-06-25 Thread Peter Childs
2009/6/25 Ivan Garcia capisc...@gmail.com: Hi, thks for the answers, but wordpress.org does not allow to install 3rd party plugins into their online hosting blogs, and the solution of an static image is a bit limited cause then user won't be able to drag the map or zoom out to see the roads

Re: [Talk-GB] Counties and coasts

2009-06-22 Thread Peter Childs
2009/6/22 Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk: The Essex one I traced from the dotted line on NPE. I'm not sure about 12 miles for county boundaries - I don't think Essex would want to have to maintain it's own navy to repel Suffolk encroachers for example. Having said that, I think I read somewhere

[OSM-talk] North Pole

2009-06-19 Thread Peter Childs
Why is the North Pole at 0,0? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0lon=0zoom=16layers=000BFTF and why at higher zoom levels does it appear as a Car Park. I can't see any data but it seams to appear in all the different renderer s. Last Time I checked you could not park your car in the middle of

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Childs
2009/6/17 Eric Wolf ebw...@gmail.com: It's just the Brits trying to re-establish their imperial dominance over the world. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: On 17 Jun 2009, at 18:17, Joe Richards wrote: One of the main annoyances that people

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