John Smith wrote:
On 13 July 2010 06:59, Pierenpier...@gmail.com wrote:
I would say the exact opposite. The tag 'name' is what you see on the
facade. The (optional) tag 'operator' is the name of the chain but we should
not suggest to not use 'name' otherwise we will have different tagging when
Lester Caine wrote:
petrol stations and other 'franchise' type operations will have the same
more complex relations ... BUT for example, I have a 'fast fuel' fuel
card which can be used at any Texaco garage, but the operator of those
garages may not be Texaco, so should I be adding a
At 2010-07-12 23:45, Lester Caine wrote:
...
As others have pointed out, 'brand' may be a better choice of 'name' in
some cases, but in reality there are THREE possible tags in many of these
cases. For example
name=the fancy hotel
brand=best western
operator=the local best western franchise
Alan Mintz wrote:
At 2010-07-12 23:45, Lester Caine wrote:
...
As others have pointed out, 'brand' may be a better choice of 'name'
in some cases, but in reality there are THREE possible tags in many of
these cases. For example
name=the fancy hotel
brand=best western
operator=the local best
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 08:41:21AM +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
When one starts to look at 'McDonalds', 'KFC' and 'Burger King' then while
they
are franchises, the name is the 'brand', but a group of 'McDonalds' may well
be
operated by a single local business ... certainly overseas. This
On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 07:45 +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 13 July 2010 06:59, Pierenpier...@gmail.com wrote:
I would say the exact opposite. The tag 'name' is what you see on the
facade. The (optional) tag 'operator' is the name of the chain but we
should
not suggest
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:34 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.auwrote:
As others have pointed out, 'brand' may be a better choice of 'name' in
some
cases, but in reality there are THREE possible tags in many of these
cases. For
example
name=the fancy hotel
brand=best western
I'm not sure an operator or a brand tag helps. Surely it's about
different names people call things.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/298272351
I'd advise using loc_name (The Randolph) or alt_name (Randolph Hotel)
if you ask for directions.
I'd probably prefer
name=Randolph Hotel
* David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au [2010-07-13 18:34 +1000]:
If the big logo on the sign out the front says Texasco, then that should
be the operator.
No, if the big sign says Texaco, than the name should at least include
Texaco. But that particular Texaco is being operated by someone else
At 2010-07-13 01:34, David Murn wrote:
If the big logo on the sign out the front says Texasco, then that should
be the operator.
That's exactly wrong, though, if it is not a Texaco-owned/operated station,
and this can be hard to determine by casual observation. There needs to be
a place to
2010/7/12 Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net:
For gas stations, the name of the supplying oil company would be properly
described as the brand (e.g. Shell, Mobil). If someone asked me for the
operator of the station, I would take this to be synonymous with owner,
and it would be unlikely
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
Banks seem like a bit of a special case, since people expect the map
to display only the name of the banking company. The name should be
the name of the particular branch something like HSBC Putney or
Santander
Hi all,
I would like to know how people are using the tag name and/or operator. It
was obvious for me that operator might come as an additional attribute but
it seems that the wiki is suggesting to replace name by operator. Or at
least, it's questionning on the page about amenity=bank:
On 13 July 2010 06:25, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
Then now the question : how can we determin if we use 'name' or 'operator'
if it is one or the other ? e.g. restaurants or hotel might or might not be
part of a chain, thus might be tagged with 'name' or 'operator'. Shall know
the door to
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:40 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
On 13 July 2010 06:25, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
Shall know the door to ask ?
rectify : knock
name v operator is simple for restaurants in western countries since
the official business name=* will be on
On 13 July 2010 06:59, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
I would say the exact opposite. The tag 'name' is what you see on the
facade. The (optional) tag 'operator' is the name of the chain but we should
not suggest to not use 'name' otherwise we will have different tagging when
At 2010-07-12 13:25, Pieren wrote:
I would like to know how people are
using the tag name and/or operator.
I think operator has been mis-used. It appears in a lot of JOSM presets
where I believe it is incorrect.
For gas stations, the name of the supplying oil company would be properly
described
I've been using the operator tag for library branches (where name is
the branch name, and operator is the library system). Same could be
done with schools within a school district. Does this seem like a
reasonable use for the operator tag?
Side note: John, Do you seriously check health
On 13 July 2010 07:25, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote:
Side note: John, Do you seriously check health certificates before
tagging restaurants?
I don't usually tag name, just operator, I just mentioned that to
point out the name is easy to locate if people did want to tag it.
On 13 July 2010 07:18, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote:
I think operator has been mis-used. It appears in a lot of JOSM presets
where I believe it is incorrect.
This is an argument over the use of english as a language and tags
that look like english words and how people interrupt
If you look at the history of the page this change was made on the
morning of 1st of April by someone who doesn't appear to have an
entry. I suspect it might just be sabotage, it does happen
occasionally on wikis.
Cheerio John
On 12 July 2010 16:25, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I
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Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
From :mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
Date :Mon Jul 12 16:31:18 America/Chicago 2010
On 13 July 2010 07:25, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote:
Side note: John, Do you seriously check health certificates before
tagging restaurants?
I
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:40 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
name v operator is simple for restaurants in western countries since
the official business name=* will be on the health certificate issued
by what ever government department is in charge of public health and
safety.
At 2010-07-12 14:31, John Smith wrote:
On 13 July 2010 07:25, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote:
Side note: John, Do you seriously check health certificates before
tagging restaurants?
I don't usually tag name, just operator, I just mentioned that to
point out the name is easy to
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to know how people are using the tag name and/or operator. It
was obvious for me that operator might come as an additional attribute but
it seems that the wiki is suggesting to replace name by operator. Or
At 2010-07-12 14:35, John Smith wrote:
On 13 July 2010 07:18, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote:
I think operator has been mis-used. It appears in a lot of JOSM presets
where I believe it is incorrect.
This is an argument over the use of english as a language and tags
that look
On 13 July 2010 08:51, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote:
Is operator correct, though? Many well-known chains are franchises, where
the actual operator is a company or individual that is named on the business
license or health certificate.
The confusion has probably come about from
this
particular location.
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Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
From :mailto:alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net
Date :Mon Jul 12 17:51:04 America/Chicago 2010
At 2010-07-12 14:31, John Smith wrote:
On 13 July 2010 07:25, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to know how people are using the tag name and/or operator.
It
was obvious for me that operator might come as an additional
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, Alan Mintz wrote:
At 2010-07-12 14:35, John Smith wrote:
On 13 July 2010 07:18, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote:
I think operator has been mis-used. It appears in a lot of JOSM presets
where I believe it is incorrect.
This is an argument over the use
So, if we continue to use operator to mean chain or franchise, then what
tag do you propose should hold the name of the individual or company who
operates the business, and who is referred to in non-OSM terminology as the
operator?
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