Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal

2021-05-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 27/5/21 9:03 pm, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Look, as a dev as well, yes this is absolutely doable. If this were a one click addon to an overpass query or otherwise massively dropped the barriers for non devs, fantastic. But at least for me personally, the folks like us that can do a data

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal

2021-05-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 25/5/21 4:41 pm, Daniel O'Connor wrote: I'd make a polite argument there is still value in at least the suburb, possibly postcode being still provided.  When exporting data via overpass as CSV; it's not currently easy or obvious to appropriately bring in the parent attributes; even if it is

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Vicmap Address Import Proposal

2021-05-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 21/5/21 9:23 pm, Andrew Harvey via Talk-au wrote: For now the iD preset doesn't show the any inherited attributes, so it will prompt mappers to supply these fields. While it might be redundant, it's also not wrong, would you go so far as removing these fields other mappers manually add?

Re: [talk-au] Streets named Street & similar?

2021-02-22 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
OK, this time I'll reply to the list, so apologies to Graeme for the duplication. Well we've got: Lane Avenue Lane Court Lane Crescent Lane Grove Lane Lane Lane One Road Lane Place Lane Road Lane Street Lane Two Road Lane Way Avenue Lane Avenue Road Avenue Street Street Lane

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-11-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 27/11/20 11:15 am, Andrew Hughes wrote: This subject has a long-running chequered past that hasn't reached a conclusion It reached a conclusion quite a long time ago. The argument was about what to tag the waterway with to indicate that there is a culvert. I don't think there has ever

[talk-au] Abbreviations in bus stop names (Was Re: Mapping Transport for NSW transit stop numbers)

2020-11-12 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 10/11/2020 9:08 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: There was some work going on at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfNSW_Data_Imports which I don't think made it to the list. So this is the perfect opportunity to raise it on the list and if there are any concerns or discussions for that import,

Re: [talk-au] Mapping hook turns for bicycles

2020-10-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 25/10/20 12:21 pm, Philip Mallis wrote: What would be the best way to map this in OSM? Try the lanes extension tagging: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/lanes_General_Extension Assuming that it's mapped as two one-way ways and there are two through car lanes at the

Re: [talk-au] How is the word "park" meant in Australian English?

2020-10-23 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 23/10/20 3:38 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: You could also find (shock, horror!) that that tag has been used for rendering purposes. Or, even more shockingly, the tag has been used because they are nature reserves. ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Boundaries

2020-09-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 30/9/20 2:51 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks, whoever did it all! :-) Thanks have to go to Andrew Harvey for persisting till we got approval from PSMA, and also for his code for converting them to OSM format. I thought his idea of using TopoJSON was great. I've still got the NT

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2020-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 17/9/20 5:36 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: So while I'd prefer using ref: I guess some psma specific tag could be okay. Do you have a preference between ref: and note: ? So you're suggesting 1) uploading duplicate state borders, and then cleanup after import or 2) doing the upload so that it

[talk-au] Namespace for maintenance tags

2020-09-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 15/9/20 10:53 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: 1. psma:loc_pid. Where this is a stable ID that is used as a reference, the existing ref tag is better for this. If we want to be more specific then ref:psma or something like that would work. No need to invent new tags here when one already exists,

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2020-09-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 15/9/20 10:53 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: 1. psma:loc_pid. Where this is a stable ID that is used as a reference, the existing ref tag is better for this. If we want to be more specific then ref:psma or something like that would work. No need to invent new tags here when one already exists,

Re: [talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals

2020-09-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 4/9/20 3:55 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: So does that make 2255 / 222 / or a different tally? It's 222 but I'm not sure how you got that, I get 200. Did you use "amenity=hospital in Queensland" in the wizard? ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals

2020-09-03 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:53 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > I did an Overpass search for Qld & found ~2100 "hospitals", which seems > like a lot? https://overpass-turbo.eu/# (Don't know if that works or > not?), & checking at random, found more Ambo's, Doctor's surgeries & so on > also

Re: [talk-au] Admin levels for LGAs / suburbs etc changed (Was "Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?)

2020-09-02 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 2/09/2020 7:59 pm, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: BTW, if he is serial offender why noone ever commented on their talk page? Because people have been using changeset comments to try an engage with the user: https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=438078

Re: [talk-au] Admin levels for LGAs / suburbs etc changed (Was "Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?)

2020-09-01 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 2/09/2020 10:38 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Did a bit of searching & it appears it was only changed on 15/7/20, but no, I certainly don't remember any discussion? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Admin_level_10=prev=2012028 Makes reference to "Australian

Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW images not loading

2020-07-18 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 18/7/20 8:13 pm, Sebastian Spiess wrote: Hello, is anyone else having issues with NSW LPI images not loading in JOSM? This also seems to be the case for iD. Their main website also seems to be down at present: https://www.spatial.nsw.gov.au/

Re: [talk-au] How do you tag a registered club?

2020-07-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 16/7/20 9:49 am, Bren Barnes wrote: Morning, apparently it's amenity=licensed_club according to tagging guidelines. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Licensed_Club Thanks for that. A lot less painful than I was expecting.

[talk-au] How do you tag a registered club?

2020-07-15 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
A question for the brains trust: how do you tag a registered club? There are a number of these in Canberra and they have been tagged community_centre, pub, nightclub, restaurant, etc. How are you tagging these? Does it depend on if the club is sports based, RSL, ethnic group, and so on? Or

Re: [talk-au] Vicmap Lite - Public Land (Parks and Reserves) not working

2020-04-28 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:28 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > I was not aware we had permission to use this service, we have permission > to use the data, but I didn't know the API endpoint was for public use. It > looks like the service is down, we could ask the vicmap people if we can > use this

Re: [talk-au] Vicmap Lite - Public Land (Parks and Reserves) not working

2020-04-28 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
Would you check to see if it's now pointing at the right layer. You'll have to refresh the list of imagery in JOSM to update first. It doesn't seem to have labels but, as I've never used this layer before, I don't know if it should. On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 5:58 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>

Re: [talk-au] Anzacathon and mapping possibilities

2020-04-26 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 9:27 AM wrote: > This looks to me to be unqualified permission. There is no mention of > CC-BY-SA and I would expect that their permission to continue till > they revoked it. > > The licence change over was opt-in not opt-out.

Re: [talk-au] Anzacathon and mapping possibilities

2020-04-26 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 26/4/20 11:28 pm, Daniel Pocock wrote: I asked on the talk-gb list and this was discussed before, they did get a response from CWGC in 2010: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2020-April/024456.html contains this link:

Re: [talk-au] Anzacathon and mapping possibilities

2020-04-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 7:52 AM Daniel Pocock wrote: > The CWGC copyright notice appears to be compatible with a bulk import of > their cemetery data. > The copyright notice explicitly says you can only use it for personal use. > For the other data sources, I suggest it may not be case of

Re: [talk-au] Anzacathon and mapping possibilities

2020-04-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
I would suggest that you have a read through this: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] [EXTERNAL] Re: Join roundabouts

2020-04-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 9/4/20 5:40 pm, Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) wrote: Anyway, back to roundabouts... When approaching to roundabout, you will see at least one signpost which informs you that you approaching to the roundabout. It will look like this: https://tinyurl.com/uam667d and then, within the roundabout

Re: [talk-au] Join roundabouts

2020-04-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 6/4/20 10:29 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: route relations I can understand, personally I'd just leave off the roundabout from the relation, easy enough to infer the route in between, but how would that work for a destination_sign? I guess the roundabout is always oneway so adding the whole

Re: [talk-au] Join roundabouts

2020-04-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:52 PM Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > I would ask users to try not to brake existing relations, and to note that > multiple ways can be a part of single roundabout so it is not necessary to > join these. > Vice versa it is

Re: [talk-au] Join roundabouts

2020-04-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
Add: noname=yes It's just another example of a validator that's not quite smart enough. On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:02 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > OT to relations but on the subject of roundabouts, I've noticed that they > are now (or possibly always have been?) appearing in at least OSM

Re: [talk-au] Postal addresses

2020-03-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 20/03/2020 7:54 am, Andy Mabbett wrote: which does *not* imply that if there is a addr:housenumber there should be no addr:housename, but on the contrary indicates that the two properties can be used at the same time. That's also how I read it.

Re: [talk-au] Feedback to ARA on their SA bushfire imagery made available to OSM

2020-03-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 9/3/20 5:49 pm, Ewen Hill wrote: Andrew,   A huge thanks to you I'll second that. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] TfNSW Cycleways use in OSM

2020-02-23 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020, 11:34 Ben Kelley, wrote: > Don't forget the blue and white signs! > > Practically I'd map a lcn=yes tag (or relation) for blue & white signs. > I'm not a Sydney rider so I'll ask an apparently dumb question. What blue and white signs are we talking about here? >

Re: [talk-au] foot/bicycle = yes/designated (was Re: TfNSW Cycleways use in OSM)

2020-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 18/02/2020 5:11 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: I hold the view that access=yes just means either physical or legal access is allowed (or at least not forbidden), whereas access=designated implies that it's signposted or otherwise explicitly designed/used for/by that mode. I'm good with the

Re: [talk-au] LPI imagery date?

2020-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 18/02/2020 4:20 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Still mapping away for bushfire areas, this time in Blue Mountains, & just wondering how up-to-date the LPI Imagery is? Could it be post-fires? There is a overlay available in iD (and JOSM) that shows the LPI imagery dates. For your area it

[talk-au] foot/bicycle = yes/designated (was Re: TfNSW Cycleways use in OSM)

2020-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 18/02/2020 3:44 pm, Ash Logan wrote: In line with this, I've drafted an osmosis TagTransform file that can turn the raw TfNSW dataset (after being run through JOSM's OpenData plugin, for example) and turn it into the usual OSM tagging schema. Check it out: Question: do we have a community

Re: [talk-au] Gravel pits?

2020-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 18/2/20 5:44 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: I would use landuse=industrial industrial=* as it is in form easier to actually use I can see the attraction of using a tag that will be rendered, however I don't think you can call a pile of rocks "industrial". Nothing happens to

Re: [talk-au] Gravel pits?

2020-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 17/2/20 7:13 pm, Jonathon Rossi wrote: What about a stockpile? And material=gravel/dirt/sand/...? landuse=stockpile resource=aggregate ? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 7/2/20 12:31 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: While that's true, I don't see that a reason not to try. In my eyes it's no different to someone who maps out all the shops in a retail area, which also will go out of date quickly. Not really a good example as I would also question the utility of

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 6/2/20 8:39 pm, Ewen Hill wrote:   The states have sent out a rapid impact assessment teams to all areas now and have followed up with detailed analysis in most. We know what has been damaged, destroyed and what was inhabited, what wasn't and what other assets were damaged. We also know

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-02-01 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 26/1/20 12:29 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:> However, there were "only" 718 listed. Earlier, Warin mentioned 944 > stations in the database, & I've spotted 3 that I know of that weren't > listed (or previously mapped). I was confused by this as well. At the moment there are 734 "fire

Re: [talk-au] tagging burnt areas

2020-01-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:51 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > > I have thought about if we should map burnt areas, it's tricky because > while it is surveyable, it changes quickly and the point at when it changes > to no longer burnt is subjective. For those reasons I do think it's better > to store

Re: [talk-au] Way has been simplified...

2020-01-11 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 12/1/20 12:37 pm, Sebastian S. wrote: When using OSMAnd for routing I came across the following note: "way has been simplified using a error criteria of 3m" it is usually in green text. Does anyone know what this means It indicates that the number of points in the lines has been reduced by

Re: [talk-au] RapID roads now available for Australia

2019-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 10:40 AM Phil Wyatt wrote: > RapID roads now available for Australia > > > But not in the list of downloads: https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/wiki/Available-Countries ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] SA location imagery

2019-11-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 8:56 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > We've now got permission & a waiver to use that Data > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Data.sa.gov.au_CCBYPermission_Open_Street_Map.pdf > so > that would now also include Location SA, wouldn't it? > > The waiver explicitly

Re: [talk-au] Discussion K: Evaluation of ACT paths audit 2012 and the OSM ACT dataset

2019-10-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 8/10/19 7:33 pm, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Are you sure that ways signed as designated for cyclists and pedestrians are far more popular than all other ways? I think the issue is that he wants to tag paths like this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/474940890 which looks like this

Re: [talk-au] Mapping 'private roads' conclusion

2019-10-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 11:56 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Any objections, corrections, better words .. ??? > > No, looks good. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Consistent tagging of botanic gardens around Australia - leisure=park vs leisure=garden

2019-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 7/10/19 3:55 pm, Warin wrote: The landuse=forest one is probably an arboretum. It's a botanical garden laid out in an area of bushland: https://www.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/things-to-do/recreation-area/stony-range-regional-botanic-garden I separated out the arboreta from the list.

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 7/10/19 2:18 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: As per the title, what do we call a Men's Shed? https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2018-January/011639.html ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Consistent tagging of botanic gardens around Australia - leisure=park vs leisure=garden

2019-10-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
The current tagging for Australian botanical gardens is: leisure=park 57 leisure=garden 43 leisure=nature_reserve 6 lesiure=playground 1 tourism=attraction 2 tourism=zoo 2 landuse=forest 1 no object tagging 1 It would appear that the parkiness is more interesting than the gardeny

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 6/10/19 8:12 am, David Wales wrote: Why did he remove the bridge tag? I think he doesn't understand how to tag man_made=bridge because he took the bridge tags off the other ways as well: http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=69845883 ___

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 4/10/19 10:53 pm, Andy Townsend wrote: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1698#issuecomment-134914770 Thanks for that. I hadn't realised there was yet another prioblem with using the path tag: highway=path bicycle=designated is currently rendered differently to

[talk-au] On the origin of path tags (Was: Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways)

2019-10-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 4/10/19 10:53 pm, Andy Townsend wrote: In places like Germany, however, dedicated infrastructure is more common, and there are usually signs telling you exactly what you are allowed to do.  As I understand it (and this was before my time, so this is largely hearsay) "cycleway" and

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 4/10/19 5:20 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: though for something that's unpaved then highway=path and highway=footway mean the same thing to me. I think at one point footway was assumed to be paved and path unpaved. The default now appears to be unpaved for both as they are rendered the same.

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:30 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > I'm mildly for reverting, although I'm happy to hear out arguments either > way and be proven wrong. > Up until May this year path meant an unsealed "track" that was too small for vehicles (or at least that's how mappers were using them) now

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:06 PM Daniel O'Connor wrote: > +1. > > Do have to amend the bits around not legal for SA cyclists to be on > footpaths given > https://www.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/23438/DPTI-Cycling-and-the-Law-Booklet.pdf > These days it might be easier to say everywhere

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:13 PM Ewen Hill wrote: > Daniel, >I thought it was 250watts for e-bikes (a European standard now > basically global) so the book may be incorrect anyway > > Isn't that what it says on page 3? ___ Talk-au mailing list

[talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 3:09 PM Herbert.Remi via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > There are almost no paths in the ACT compliant with Australian Tagging > Guidelines > Thanks for bringing that to our attention. Turns out that a "helpful" wiki user radically changed the suggested way

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

2019-09-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 30/9/19 9:20 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > One other shared path nearby, they're "painted" on the path itself, rather than separate signs, & are no longer in very good condition! :-) That's why I don't sweat the whole designated/yes thing. All we're essentially mapping is whether or

Re: [OSM-talk] From the SotM: tagging session

2019-09-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 30/9/19 14:50, Roland Olbricht wrote: It has been a talking point that the wiki should be purely descriptive. There is no objection that people sort out tagging questions in the wiki, but the mixture of purely descriptive and as normative intended pages would cause confusion. By

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

2019-09-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 7:30 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Examples of the signs are given on the linked page > > > Yeap, the law is the same as the ACT. I was more interested in how consistently they are installed in Queensland. In the ACT as a rule they don't put them up (but they will use

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

2019-09-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 29/9/19 10:41 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access says designated means "...in general this means that there is a (explicit) sign saying something like 'pedestrians allowed', or a pedestrian icon." So if signposted for a particular mode, I'd use

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

2019-09-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 28/9/19 8:55 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: If the way is specifically for a particular mode, then use mode=designated. So a shared cycle pedestrian path is foot=designated+bicycle=designated. Actually in Australia if a path is designated for bicycles then you can't walk on it:

Re: [talk-au] Consistent tagging of botanic gardens around Australia - leisure=park vs leisure=garden

2019-09-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 24/9/19 10:56 am, Daniel Graus wrote: Should all botanical gardens be changed to match one another? Is leisure=park or leisure=garden more correct in some/the majority/all of these cases? OK, a quick global survey Of the ~2,500 botanical gardens that are in Wikidata and have a match

Re: [talk-au] Discussion of state regulation and planing issues for OSM

2019-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 19/9/19 09:41, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au wrote: Are there any suggestions where matter 4 and 5 could be discussed and links provided so that the OSM community can communicate, negotiate and formulate a direction for these things? I can't suggest anything as I don't understand your

Re: [talk-au] Newcastle to Ballina Pacific Highway classification

2019-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:23 AM Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) via Talk-au wrote: > > Near Newcastle there is “END MOTORWAY” sign ( >

Re: [talk-au] Paths in Illawarra Conservation Lands

2019-09-11 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 12/9/19 05:31, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Since then the pressure from the mountain bike community to has map everything has reduced,  presumably the mountain bike  community has realized that OSM is one of the tools the authorities use to locate illegal trails. That's only going to

Re: [talk-au] Tagging of Aboriginal flag

2019-08-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 17/8/19 9:29 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: According to the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dflagpole you can use flag:wikidata to specify the exact flag. The Australian Aboriginal Flag is https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1285625 and the Torres Strait Islander Flag is

Re: [talk-au] play ground locations and much more from open data source but how?

2019-08-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 18/8/19 11:07 am, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au wrote: how to do this? Step 1 read this: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines I want to upload the play ground locations to OSM. It's not just a case of "uploading". A large number of playgrounds in Canberra have already been

Re: [talk-au] Residential Poolside Building

2019-08-12 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 13/8/19 09:22, Ian Sergeant wrote: For OSM it's nothing more than a colouring-in exercise. Once again it depends on what use you think the data is going to be used for. If you're interested in selling tennis court maintenance services then it's useful information. Maybe you're interested

Re: [talk-au] Residential Poolside Building

2019-08-12 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 13/8/19 08:59, Sebastian S. wrote: I've also been mapping pools occasionally. Thinking about it I'm actually not sure what the value for the map could be but they stand out a lot on good quality aerial images. Mapping them is probably adding about the same amount of value to the map as

Re: [OSM-talk] How can I create a oshdb?

2019-07-12 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
https://github.com/GIScience/oshdb/blob/master/oshdb-tool/etl/README.md On Sat., 13 Jul. 2019, 09:30 Milo van der Linden, wrote: > Thanks! The download server has no oshdb files for Curacao, the Caribbean > Island I am interested in. Is there a converter available? > > Thanks again! > > On Fri,

Re: [talk-au] Path on sand/bare rock

2019-07-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
This seems to have been asked a few times before: https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-au@openstreetmap.org/msg09528.html https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-au@openstreetmap.org/msg11443.html https://www.mail-archive.com/tagging@openstreetmap.org/msg41293.html

Re: [talk-au] Platform names

2019-03-20 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 21/3/19 11:26, Thomas Manson wrote: 1) First of all, is my understanding correct? It should be the station name. Depends on which version you'd like to believe. The original proposal for public_transport=platform (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?oldid=625726#Platform) said:

Re: [talk-au] MapRoulette Challenges

2019-02-22 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:46 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > & then when you add parking & bus lanes into the mix, I'm totally > confused! :-) > You're not alone. I tend to say away from lane mapping 'cause I think it's going to do my head in. > I understand (I think) that we mark parking

Re: [talk-au] MapRoulette Challenges

2019-02-22 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:35 PM Horea Meleg wrote: > § Fix wrong lane count in Australia & New Zealand: > https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3258 > > Just to let you know, your test for correct lane count doesn't appear to take into account bicycle lanes. For example:

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing day replicate

2019-02-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
Hasn't worked for three days now: https://munin.openstreetmap.org/problems.html#critical also the Planet dump is also not working. I'm not sure how we're supposed to report these, there used to be a status page on the wikki but that appears to no longer be the appropriate place. On 8/2/19

Re: [talk-au] Building Import for Ballarat - interest?

2018-12-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
The old data.gov.au permission is no longer sufficient to use a dataset in OSM. The first thing you are going to have to do is approach the Council and get them to sign the wavier. On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 1:08 PM Daniel O'Connor wrote: > I've started

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-12-18 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
follow through with the plan, since it seems pretty complete. If Andrew Davidson is still interested, his script could help match and add the nodes into the relationships and possibly flag discrepancies in names. Is anyone interested in reviving this effort? On 19/11/18 8:49 pm, Andrew

[talk-au] protect_class=24 and Indigenous Protected Areas

2018-12-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
I've noticed that listed under protect_class=24 (political protection) for Australia are Indigenous Protected Areas. This is incorrect, as Indigenous Protected Areas are conservation areas owned or managed by Indigenous groups and have an IUCN Category assigned to them, they should be tagged

Re: [talk-au] SA Aquatic Reserves Import

2018-12-03 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:36 PM cleary wrote: > > I did not see this data in CAPAD 2016 > Have a look in the "Marine CAPAD 2016 SA summary" spreadsheet. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] SA Aquatic Reserves Import

2018-12-03 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 8:23 PM Lee Mason wrote: > But in categories 2-6, it contradicts and lists specific protection titles > for a protect class. > > Sorry, that was me. I added that note to protect_class=1 a number of years ago but forgot/was too lazy to copy it to the other categories. I've

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-11-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
Planning for the import is not finished yet, so please wait until after that. On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 21:23 Lee Mason I am prepared to make a start on the Tasmania import over the next few > days, unless there is some further discussion? > > > ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-11-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
If you want to start working on something I have had a go at matching place nodes: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Dy3 with the corresponding admin_level 10 boundaries: https://github.com/FrakGart/TestAdmin10Labels These have been matched by finding the best matching place node by name within a

Re: [talk-au] Correcting inland water features

2018-10-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 00:05 nwastra, wrote: > > *Should all those flagged as non-perennial be tagged as intermittent? > Yes. Seems to be too few perennial but as others have mentioned Australian > watercourses are predominantly intermittent. Perennial streams are pretty rare in Australia. If

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:29 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > > So I guess at this point do people want to checkout the simplified OSM > files for any issues? > > They look OK, but I would like to have an opportunity to clean up the JOSM warnings before we upload them (except the relations with the

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:29 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > I'm in favour of first manually removing the > state borders so we don't dump more nodes on top and then post-upload > we can just join the new relations to the existing state borders where > they meet. > I can see your point about not

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 07/10/18 23:27, Lee Mason wrote: Nice work on cleaning up the PSMA data, Andrew. It looks a lot easier to manage for importing now. A quick look at the data, and it appears there is some regional/state variance in the boundaries: Some of the WA LGAs extend out to the coastal waters

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-10-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 07/10/18 18:32, Andrew Harvey wrote: I see the next steps are to: - discuss if this is the right format for upload or not, One question would be should we be putting a place tag on admin boundaries? According to taginfo only 34% of admin_level=10 has a place tag. - how we'll manage

Re: [talk-au] Australia maritime boundaries - Geoscience Australia

2018-08-31 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
Yeap, maritime boundaries have been on my "todo list" for a while now. However, I was waiting for GA to release an updated dataset that will have the new boundaries arising from recent treaty negotiations with East Timor. I'd suggest waiting till then. On 01/09/18 10:53, Lee Mason wrote:

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

2018-08-31 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 31/8/18 16:23, Andrew Harvey wrote: (not sure why the split across 9 and 10...? but it looks like no data for 9 and all suburb/localities are marked as 10, a separate discussion but perhaps they should be 9 and smaller neighbourhoods be in 10?) Level 9 appears to have been intended for

Re: [talk-au] Where did we get suburb boundary lines in NSW?

2018-08-20 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
http://spatialservices.finance.nsw.gov.au/mapping_and_imagery/lpi_web_services On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 08:35 Dion Moult, wrote: > Good morning all, > > In OSM in NSW there are administrative boundary lines which are marked as > suburb boundaries and have names. I assume a long time ago these were >

Re: [talk-au] Pedestrian/bike access near Wiley Park

2018-08-15 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 15/8/18 02:18, Adam Roberts wrote: Hey folks, I'm experiencing some routing difficulties for ped/bike near the Wiley Park station, and looking for some tagging and digitizing advice. Just out of interest: which router are you using? I haven't been able to find one that consumes the

[talk-au] Taginfo Australia instance (for a short time only).

2018-08-15 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
There is an alpha version of a Dockerized Taginfo covering just Australia here: http://ao-au.taginfo-dev.opengeodata.hu/ Apparently only available till this Sunday. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Shared Zones

2018-07-18 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 18/07/18 16:12, Andrew Harvey wrote: Okay so I guess we still need to use some local judgement? I thought we were discussing shared zones here? They are clearly sign posted so I wouldn't have thought that there would be a problem identifying them. I'm happy to have them tagged as

Re: [talk-au] Slight revamps to AUS Tagging Guidelines for Urban Footpaths

2018-06-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 25/6/18 15:12, Joel H. wrote: Just letting everyone know that I did a slight revamp to the Guidelines for Urban Footpaths over on our Tagging Guidelines page The three things that look a little odd are: 1. Needs an entry for shared paths that don't have a sign (ie: 99%+ of Canberra shared

Re: [talk-au] State names

2018-06-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 25/6/18 08:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Just looking at addresses I've loaded without "is_in", & they all seem to show as Whatever Address, without a Suburb / Town, but with "Enclosing Features" - State Boundary: Queensland? See:

Re: [talk-au] Increased precision options for Australia - QZSS, SBAS or Galileo

2018-06-12 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 12/06/18 20:04, Leith Bade wrote: Our receivers work fine in Australia as I live in Canberra and work for the Swift Navigation engineering department. Using one of the free CORS stations here I can get 2cm positions from my car. Mind you the setup cost ~$2000. This is the bit I'm a bit

Re: [talk-au] Postcodes in South Australia

2018-06-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
The SA suburbs dataset has post codes in it. However it would appear that this was not included in the early import: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/zir On 04/06/18 17:03, Alex Sims wrote: Hi, I’m getting increasingly frustrated with how my GPS (OpenStreetMap on Garmin via mkgmap) and the

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
Perhaps I should have said 1 in 4 *can* be saved, if you are prepared to donate your time to do someone else's paid job. Anyway if you are volunteering to patrol for these and clean then up, then you are welcome to it. On 21/05/18 20:52, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 21 May 2018 at 10:32, Andrew

Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

2018-05-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Davidson
On 10/05/18 17:18, Andrew Harvey wrote: These edits are hallmark seo spam, likely all done by the same organisation, following the same instructions. They all have the same traits (new username for each edit they make, named after the company, abuse the changeset comment with spam, never use a

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