Re: [Talk-de] Wann geht eine Bahnstrecke in Betrieb?

[Jochen Topf]

On Do, Mai 05, 2016 at 11:36:06 +0200, Michael Reichert wrote:
> Sollte man die Bahnstrecke in railway=rail umtaggen, wenn sie für die
> allgemeine Nutzung offen ist (d.h. jedes Eisenbahnverkehrsunternehmen
> dort fahren darf, sofern die Fahrzeuge für die Strecke geeignet sind)?
> Oder soll man schon umtaggen, wenn die Testfahrten beginnen?

Ich gehe hier mal vom Otto-Normal-Mapper aus, der keine speziellen
Fachkenntnisse hat. Der guckt sich an, wie etwas aussieht und mappt das dann.
Das ist unser Massstab bei OSM. Der sieht eine Bahnstrecke, die fertig aussieht
und auf der gelegentlich Züge hin- und herfahren. Dann macht es keinen Sinn,
das als construction zu taggen. Das ist ne Bahnstrecke. Ob die Strecke laut
Bundeseisenbahnbaundbetriebsgesetz Paragraph 08/15 offiziell in Betrieb ist
oder nicht, das ist eine Frage, die für OSM erstmal keine Rolle spielt.

Bei einer noch nicht eröffneten Strasse ist durch einen Laien ohne weiteres
ersichtlich, dass sie nicht offen ist, weil sie durch entsprechende Schilder
und Absperrungen so gekennzeichnet ist. Bei einer Bahnstrecke ist das nicht
unbedingt der Fall.

Und auch wenn ich mir anschaue, wie das vom Benutzer der OSM-Daten aussieht,
komme ich zu dem gleichen Schluss: Wenn ich mich im Gelände orientiere und sehe
eine hübsche neue Bahnstrecke, die in der Karte gestrichelt gemalt wird, dann
sieht es für mich aus, als ob die Karte veraltet ist, oder ob ich vielleicht
an der falschen Stelle bin. Liegt da überall Baumaterial rum, dann erwarte ich
was anderes. Routen kann man auf Bahnstrecken eh nicht in der selben Form, wie
man das auf Strassen kann. Nur weil eine Strecke offiziell freigegeben ist,
heisst das ja nicht, dass da auch Züge fahren.

Also ganz klare Antwort: Umtaggen, wenn es für den Laien so aussieht, als ob
die Strecke fertig ist. Das ist einfach nur eine weitere Form der "on the
ground rule". Spezialinteressen haben bei OSM gegenüber dem, was allgemein
nützlich und erwartet wird, zurückzutreten. Meiner Ansicht nach gehört die
Information, welche Strecken offiziell freigegeben sind, überhaupt nicht
nach OSM, weil es eine Spezialinformation ist, die sich "on the ground" nicht
verifizieren läßt. Aber ich werde mich jetzt auch nicht beschweren, wenn die
Eisenbahnmapper dafür einen besonderen Tag erfinden.

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Re: [Talk-in] Geospatial Information Regulation Bill propsal

[Sajjad Anwar]

Pradeep - thank you for bringing this here.

Hey everyone - the open data community in India is building a
coalition between entities in India that use geospatial information to
build an effort to respond to this bill.

We are starting to gather as much information as possible and
collecting them over at:
https://datameet.hackpad.com/Geospatial-Bill-2016-zJwgcQaIvBq

As the OSM frontline of this country, I'd appreciate if we can gather
our efforts with Datameet.
Thank you.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Heather Leson]

Hello

Let me know if you want me to connect you to the emergency managers in the
area. I will give them a heads up that you are talking about it

Two of them are big fans of osm so they might help. But i leave this
decision with you.

Heather
On 6 May 2016 04:59, "Simon Wood"  wrote:

> On Thu, May 5, 2016 9:28 am, Andrew MacKinnon wrote:
> > As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> > Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
> >
> >
> > Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> > yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project for
> > Fort McMurray?
>
> You might get some help from UrtheCast, as a Canadian company they might
> be willing to donate access to footage.
> https://www.urthecast.com
>
> Not sure that they can provide geo-referenced shots, but any info might be
> of use. Their cameras are fixed on ISS, so any orbital software/website
> will tell you if/when they have near passes.
>
> They also have a live feed:
> https://www.urthecast.com/live
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Talk-in] Geospatial Information Regulation Bill propsal

[Anish Mangal]

The funny part is that the government bodies themselves seem to be excluded
from this proposed new "law"!

Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I work in disseminating openstreetmap in offline environments in
educational setups in India, and having dealt with the government, I have
to generate tiles which show Kashmir and Arunachal "properly", otherwise
the said schools/administrations will simply refuse to have the maps at
all.


On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Ajay Shah  wrote:

> On 6 May 2016 at 01:30, Johnson Chetty  wrote:
>
>> Just my two cents:
>>
>> This is the Indian government trying to reduce the spread of information
>> that is non-conducive to national interests.
>>
>> However, OSM can dispute that our freedom of speech is being restrained.
>>
>
> There is no freedom of speech in the Indian Constitution. Please have no
> illusions on this score.
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Geospatial Information Regulation Bill propsal

[Ajay Shah]

On 6 May 2016 at 01:30, Johnson Chetty  wrote:

> Just my two cents:
>
> This is the Indian government trying to reduce the spread of information
> that is non-conducive to national interests.
>
> However, OSM can dispute that our freedom of speech is being restrained.
>

There is no freedom of speech in the Indian Constitution. Please have no
illusions on this score.

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Re: [Talk-in] Geospatial Information Regulation Bill propsal

[srinivas kodali]

Is the draft act available? Things will be much clear then. Either way
India launched it's own navigation satellite systems and is banning it's
access to citizens
On May 5, 2016 10:16 PM, "Pradeep Mohandas" 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Economic Times reported this today
> http://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/7-year-jail-rs-100-crore-fine-soon-for-showing-pok-arunachal-as-disputed/articleshow/52117889.cms
>
> How does this affect openstreetmap? Any thoughts?
>
> Warm regards,
> Pradeep
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Simon Wood]

On Thu, May 5, 2016 9:28 am, Andrew MacKinnon wrote:
> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project for
> Fort McMurray?

You might get some help from UrtheCast, as a Canadian company they might
be willing to donate access to footage.
https://www.urthecast.com

Not sure that they can provide geo-referenced shots, but any info might be
of use. Their cameras are fixed on ISS, so any orbital software/website
will tell you if/when they have near passes.

They also have a live feed:
https://www.urthecast.com/live

Cheers,
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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 107, Issue 4

[Simon Slater]

On Thu, 5 May 2016 09:50:58 AM Timothy Ney wrote:
>  If for example, we demote all of the "towns" between Rockhampton
> and Mackay to Hamlets or Villages, we are going to have 300 km of highway
> with nothing shown at higher levels.  At present, each of the small towns
> (may have 1 pub, some services, a shop and a few houses), are labelled as
> towns, and appear nicely if you zoom to a level where you can see Mackay
> and Rockhampton on the same map.  These "towns" indicate to drivers where
> they are likely to find at least some services easily.  It is difficult,
> unless you know the areas, to zoom in on a particular area to locate a
> "village" or "hamlet" on a 300km piece of highway, where the "towns: are
> 30-40km apart.

Combining this thought with railway services, rather than an absolute 
structure for applying tags, what about a relative one?  That is, the concept 
of hamlet vs village vs town is according to importance, which, historically 
was population, church etc.

Today, a group of buildings with a service station ( and known opening hours) 
is more important on a main / major highway, than the same size grouping 
without vehicular services.  Similarly, places on a railway line where 
passenger services stop is considered more important (profitable) by the 
railways than those in-between, even if the populations are the same.

I suppose this could be extended to places with an aerodrome with sealed and 
or longer runway(s) being more important than those with un-sealed strips.
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Re: [Talk-cz] Dlaždice "Metropolis"

[Petr Vozdecký]

Ahoj,
to je docela šik mě se to líbí - nebylo by od věci vyvinout něco jako city-
plan render, který bude vycházet z toho, na co jsme v české kartografii 
zvyklí - toto je rozhodně blíže "našim" mapám než Mapnik s červenejma 
dálnicema. Když už by to mělo být městské schema a když už tam máš 
tramvajové trati, tak mi tam asi chybí jednak čísla linek u těch tratí, ale 
spíše linky BUSu a puntíky zastávek. Nemusí být vše v každém zoomu, ale tak,
aby se vše dalo dopátrat... Ve velkém přiblížení tedy i názvy zastávek...

Postřehy k renderu:
- nerenderuješ podzemní části silnic (tunely), což by se hodilo (silnice 
nečekaně končí)
- pročpak v Brně není vykreslená tramvajová síť?
- plochy chodníků tvořené polygonem (náměstí) se vykreslují jen jako chodník
po obrysu
- vynecháváš vykreslení malých objektů domů při malém přiblížení - v 
centrech měst to má neblahý dopad, v menším přiblížení to vypadá, jako by 
tam nebyly domy (např. Brno)
- ikony fotbalistů u hřišť se vykreslují do rohu hřiště a ne doprostřed
- highway=path zobrazuješ výrazněji než highway=track, takže lesní pěšiny 
jsou vůči zpěvněným lesním cestám vykresleny úplně opačně (pěšiny jako 
tlustá a cesty jako tenká čárkovaná)

Ještě reakce k odkazované stránce:
- máš tam chybu v URL v první větě
- v sekci "Zobrazujeme" tipuji, že máš omylem u lesů a parků zmíněnou modrou
barvu místo zelené (na dvou místech)

vop


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Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 6. 5. 2016 0:08:56
Předmět: [Talk-cz] Dlaždice "Metropolis"

"
Zdravím,
rád bych pro openstreetmap.cz nabídnul k použití vrstvu, kterou jsem si 
vyvinul pro použití na stránkách Matičky Metropolis.

Jedná se o vrstvu se vzhledem klasického plánu města s důrazem na veřejnou 
dopravu (vlaky, metro, tramvaje).

Viz http://svita.cz/tiles/

Budu rád, když na to někdo mrkne a zváží, zda je to vhodné pro zařazení do 
vrstev openstreetmap.cz. Budu rád i za jiné postřehy a tipy.

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Re: [talk-au] place=? An oldie but no past conclusion.

[Simon Slater]

On Thu, 5 May 2016 10:10:35 AM Ian Sergeant wrote:
> 1. Any attempt to make something render on sparse parts of the map, is
> a rendering issue.  Any renderer is free to pre-process the data based
> on a population and remoteness algorithm if they wish.
> 
> 2. Personally, I make anything a town if it has services.  If it has a
> pub, a take-away, a supermarket, a post-office, and a fuel station,
> then it's a town.  I save hamlet for a population grouping without any
> services, and a locality for a place where there is essentially no
> population clustering.  This is a natural skew towards remoter
> destinations becoming towns, because they are service towns for
> surrounding areas, rather than necessarily having large populations
> themselves.

Post offices may be a good guide.  25 years ago there were at least 4 post 
offices 
between here (Swan Hill) and Kerang.  Now there is only one at Lake Boga, but 
all the other post codes are still in place, mail routing through either 
Kerang or Swan Hill.

The other places, Lake Charm, Mystic Park and Tresco, have a small group of 
houses, Lk Charm has a shop and caravan park, Mystic has a pub.

The passenger train doesn't stop at any of these stations anymore either, only 
the grain trains.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast named 1 of 5 most influential people in Geo Industry!

[Clifford Snow]

Dtto Congrats Steve.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Mike Thompson  wrote:

>
> http://geoawesomeness.com/top-5-most-influential-living-people-shaping-the-geo-industry-of-the-21-century/
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Re: [OSM-talk] Navmii notes

[Deanna Earley]

On 05/05/2016 09:33, Andreas Vilén wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed anonymous notes from the Navmii app is being
> created a lot of the time with not very helpful comments

Hello Andreas.

I (along with the DWG, and others) are aware of the Navmii notes and are
closing what we can.
I'm also in discussion with Navmii themselves to try and get them to
stop adding these, or at least curbing/moderating what they are adding.

Thank you for letting us know though.

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[Talk-ca] Fwd: Re: Fort McMurray forest fires

[Paul Norman]

Fort McMurray is the 5th largest city in the province of Alberta and has 
been evacuated in the face of wildfires which have burned thousands of 
structures. Satellites have been tasked to gather imagery, but it 
probably won't be very useful imagery for OSM until the smoke has cleared.


My guess is there won't be a HOTUS activation associated with this 
disaster. The HOT work people have been doing so far is mainly improving 
the state of the area in OSM with pre-disaster sources.


If anyone gets openly licensed imagery for the area, I can host tiles 
from it.


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Subject:Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
Date:   Thu, 05 May 2016 11:45:49 -0400
From:   James 
To: John Marshall 
CC: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 



I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort 
McMurray. Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire


http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall > wrote:


   I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release
   thier imagery.

   I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.

   John Marshall

   On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James" > wrote:

   I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we
   get satelite imagery.
   What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca
    for Fort McMurray and we can trace
   buildings as they are not all there

   On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon
   > wrote:

   As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort
   McMurray,
   Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

   Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area
   available
   yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a
   project
   for Fort McMurray?

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[OSM-talk] Steve Coast named 1 of 5 most influential people in Geo Industry!

[Mike Thompson]

http://geoawesomeness.com/top-5-most-influential-living-people-shaping-the-geo-industry-of-the-21-century/

Congrats Steve!

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[Talk-cz] Tip na vhodny smartphone pro aktivity souvisejici s OSM - zejmena co se tyce kvality/presnosti GPS prijmu

[Pavel Bokr]

Ahoj,

mel bych dotaz na pripadne zkusenosti s chytrymi telefony pro aktivity 
souvisejici s OSM (OsmTracker, Mapillary, prilezitostne foto rozcestniku s GPS 
v exifu apod.). Mohu si vybrat telefon z nabidky Vodafonu v hodnote cca 
necelych 7000,- (subsidy k ramcovce) a uvital bych pripadny tip na nejaky 
vhodny telefon (pripadne i tip jaky vhodny neni pokud ma nekdo zkusenost).

Jde mi hlavne o dobrou GPSku vcetne kompasu (ze svych zkusenosti se stavajicimi 
dnes uz starsimi mobily (ONE TOUCH 997D; Samsung Galaxy Ace 3) vim, ze jsou 
dost velke rozdily – jeden mobil po delsi dobe dosahne stezi 15 metru a kompas 
nejpis chybi uplne, druhy ve stejnych podminkach velmi rychle nabehne na 
presnost 4 metry). Na GPSce stoji a pada snad vse co se toci kolem OSM, nejsem 
zadny silenec do mobilu, ze bych v tom mel prehled a tyhle veci/zkusenosti se 
normalne v popisech a parametrech neuvadeji. 

Pak by bylo dobre aby fotak byl spise “sirokouhlejsi”, resp. aby nemel prilis 
maly zorny uhel – to “sirokouhleisi” pisu hooodne v uvozovkach, protoze co mam 
k dispozici dva mobily tak ten co ma horsi GPSku ma zase o trochu sirsi zaber 
na fotaku – na fotku pro Mapillary se toho o trochu vic vejde i kdyz to neni 
sirokouhle, ale i kdyz o neco sirsi “vyhled” tak je to lepsi. Jinak fotak aby 
celkove fotil obstojne/primerene dobre.

Vydrz by nemela byt podprumerna, pro Mapillary to sice tezko pujde bez 
externiho zdroje, ale aby to alespon vydrzelo co nejdele.



Ma nekdo nejake dobre/spatne zkusenosti (hlavne s tou GPSkou)? Mobily, ktere 
jsou aktualne k dispozici v dane cenove relaci jsem hodil sem:
http://osm.kraluvdvur.cz/smartphone-vf-2016-05.pdf



Nema nekdo nahodou zkusenost s tim mobilem od VF – Vodafone Smart ultra 6? 
Parametricky nevypada blbe, recenze taky nezni uplne blbe...


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[Talk-cz] Dlaždice "Metropolis"

[Mikoláš Štrajt]

Zdravím,
rád bych pro openstreetmap.cz nabídnul k použití vrstvu, kterou jsem si 
vyvinul pro použití na stránkách Matičky Metropolis.

Jedná se o vrstvu se vzhledem klasického plánu města s důrazem na veřejnou 
dopravu (vlaky, metro, tramvaje).

Viz http://svita.cz/tiles/

Budu rád, když na to někdo mrkne a zváží, zda je to vhodné pro zařazení do 
vrstev openstreetmap.cz. Budu rád i za jiné postřehy a tipy.

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[Talk-it] Parchi Regionali Puglia

[Federico Cortese]

Insieme a Marco Bartalini avevamo pensato che sarebbe utile importare
in OSM i perimetri dei parchi regionali pugliesi. Dopo varie ricerche
abbiamo trovato questi vettoriali:
http://93.63.84.69:8080/webgis-parchi/docs/zip/Parchi_Naturali_Regionali.zip

Si riesce a capire con che licenza sono rilasciati?

Grazie a tutti

Federico

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[Talk-de] Wann geht eine Bahnstrecke in Betrieb?

[Michael Reichert]

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Hallo,

zwei verschiedene Benutzer [1] haben in den letzten Tagen weite Teile
der Schnellfahrstrecke Ebensfeld–Erfurt (Teil der Achse
Nürnberg–Leipzig) von railway=construction auf railway=rail umgetaggt.
Bevor ich das revertiere (die angegebene Quelle würde es jetzt schon
rechtfertigen), möchte ich eure Meinungen hören, wie ihr zu folgender
Frage steht.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39127371
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39126821
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39126183

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/38462026

Sollte man die Bahnstrecke in railway=rail umtaggen, wenn sie für die
allgemeine Nutzung offen ist (d.h. jedes Eisenbahnverkehrsunternehmen
dort fahren darf, sofern die Fahrzeuge für die Strecke geeignet sind)?
Oder soll man schon umtaggen, wenn die Testfahrten beginnen?

Ich bin dafür, das Umtaggen erst durchzuführen, wenn die Strecke in
Betrieb geht (also offen für die Nutzung ist). So wird da bei der LGV
Est européenne (Schnellfahrstrecke Paris–Straßburg) im östlichsten
Bauabschnitt praktiziert. (Das ist der, wo der Test-TGV verunglückt ist)

Man kann die Frage analog für Straßen stellen. Dort taggen wir auch
erst um, wenn die Straßen eröffnet ist (allein der Router wegen).
Manchmal verwenden wir aber auch access=no + highway!=construction,
wenn die Straße zwar fertig, aber noch nicht eröffnet ist.

Viele Grüße

Michael


PS Das ist kein reines Bahnthema, sondern von allgemeinem Interesse,
da die Frage auch auf Straßen angewendet werden kann.


[1] Ich gehe nicht davon aus, dass die beiden untereinander das
abgesprochen haben.


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Re: [Talk-in] Geospatial Information Regulation Bill propsal

[Russell Nelson]

So, what, are they going to raid UCL in London and kidnap the OSM
administrators back to India to stand trial? Are they going to try to bust
OSM editors in India? But all your edits are part of the public record, and
if you didn't touch the international boundary, how could they find you (or
me) guilty? Maybe we need a rite of passage for Indian OSM editors, whereby
they remove the "disputed" from POK, and somebody outside of India adds it
back? "Look, I tried to change it, but a non-Indian changed it back. It's
pointless to try to stop them."

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Johnson Chetty 
wrote:

> Just my two cents:
>
> This is the Indian government trying to reduce the spread of information
> that is non-conducive to national interests.
>
> However, OSM can dispute that our freedom of speech is being restrained.
> The honest counter to that is that we are entitled to freedom of speech
> and opinion, but also to bear the consequences of what we say.
> If what we maintain as a divisive opinion to national interests regardless
> of who is in government, it puts us in a tricky place..
> Ergo: Google shows India oriented maps for requests from Indian IPs and
> China oriented maps for Chinese IPs.
>
> Where does that leave us?
> OSM is apolitical by nature and intends to stay that way.
> So from the government's perspective, the collective opinion of a group of
> Indian and non Indian geography publishers (OSM) does tantamount as being
> non conducive to national interests. I think this leaves us in a position
> where we would be open for litigation.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5 May 2016 at 22:15, Pradeep Mohandas 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Economic Times reported this today
>> http://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/7-year-jail-rs-100-crore-fine-soon-for-showing-pok-arunachal-as-disputed/articleshow/52117889.cms
>>
>> How does this affect openstreetmap? Any thoughts?
>>
>> Warm regards,
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[john whelan]

I think she pulled stat can address data for Toronto from GCODP.

Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 14:55, Begin Daniel  wrote:

> I did not find any buildings (except those from Canvec and GeoBase) in the
> GCODP.
>
> May Mojgan got it from somewhere else? …
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* May-05-16 14:04
> *To:* Begin Daniel
> *Cc:* James; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
>
>
>
> Mojgan recently imported some Stat Can data through the Government of
> Canada Oren Data portal.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
> On 5 May 2016 at 13:47, Begin Daniel  wrote:
>
> As far I can tell from the imagery available (Bing & Mapbox), the data
> from Geobase & Canvec are not up-to-date, neither for roads nor for
> buildings, and I do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan?
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* May-05-16 12:42
> *To:* john whelan
> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
>
>
>
> They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available?
> Nope. Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going
> up in flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan 
> wrote:
>
> I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it
> gets a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two
> tile systems over the same area.
>
> Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of
> every building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also
> available in CANVEC for firefighters etc.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
> On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James  wrote:
>
> I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray.
> Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire
>
> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall  wrote:
>
> I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier
> imagery.
>
> I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.
>
> John Marshall
>
> On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James"  wrote:
>
> I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get
> satelite imagery.
>
> What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray
> and we can trace buildings as they are not all there
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
> wrote:
>
> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
> for Fort McMurray?
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Re: [Talk-in] Geospatial Information Regulation Bill propsal

[Johnson Chetty]

Just my two cents:

This is the Indian government trying to reduce the spread of information
that is non-conducive to national interests.

However, OSM can dispute that our freedom of speech is being restrained.
The honest counter to that is that we are entitled to freedom of speech and
opinion, but also to bear the consequences of what we say.
If what we maintain as a divisive opinion to national interests regardless
of who is in government, it puts us in a tricky place..
Ergo: Google shows India oriented maps for requests from Indian IPs and
China oriented maps for Chinese IPs.

Where does that leave us?
OSM is apolitical by nature and intends to stay that way.
So from the government's perspective, the collective opinion of a group of
Indian and non Indian geography publishers (OSM) does tantamount as being
non conducive to national interests. I think this leaves us in a position
where we would be open for litigation.

Any thoughts?







On 5 May 2016 at 22:15, Pradeep Mohandas  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Economic Times reported this today
> http://m.economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/7-year-jail-rs-100-crore-fine-soon-for-showing-pok-arunachal-as-disputed/articleshow/52117889.cms
>
> How does this affect openstreetmap? Any thoughts?
>
> Warm regards,
> Pradeep
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Bernie Connors]

  The regional municipality of Wood Buffalo has municipal orthophotos and they also have orthophotos from Pictometry taken in May 2015. I know that Pictometry allows my organization to freely distribute the orthophotos. However none of this will be of any use if ‎nobody is available to provide access to their data. Their map viewer is still online do it is unlikely that it is in Fort McMurray - http://view.rmwb.caBernie. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.From: Begin DanielSent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 3:56 PMTo: john whelan; Begin DanielCc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMapSubject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires







I did not find any buildings (except those from Canvec and GeoBase) in the GCODP.
May Mojgan got it from somewhere else? …
Daniel
 
From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]

Sent: May-05-16 14:04
To: Begin Daniel
Cc: James; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
 


Mojgan recently imported some Stat Can data through the Government of Canada Oren Data portal.


Cheerio John



 

On 5 May 2016 at 13:47, Begin Daniel  wrote:


As far I can tell from the imagery available (Bing & Mapbox), the data from Geobase & Canvec are
 not up-to-date, neither for roads nor for buildings, and I do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan?
 
Daniel
 
From: James
 [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]

Sent: May-05-16 12:42
To: john whelan
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires


 

They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available? Nope. Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going up in flames. Better to have data
 available, then none at all.


 

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan  wrote:


I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it gets a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does
 then we get two tile systems over the same area.


Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of every building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways
 are also available in CANVEC for firefighters etc.


Cheerio John





 

On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James  wrote:

I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray. Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22




 

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall  wrote:
I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier imagery.
I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.
John Marshall



On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James"  wrote:


I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get satelite imagery.

What I can do is create a task on
tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray and we can trace buildings as they are not all there


 

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon  wrote:
As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
for Fort McMurray?

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[Talk-br] Dados Abertos da Prefeitura do Recife

[Marcelo Pereira]

Srs,

Uma notícia para ajudar no mapeamento desta Metrópole, que infelizmente não
tenho como dar continuidade no momento.

Att,

Marcelo Pereira

Via Twitter
*Dados Abertos Recife* 
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Velocidade das Vias agora passa a compor o conjunto de Dados Vivos do
Recife dados.recife.pe.gov.br/dataset/demand… 

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Re: [Talk-it] Colli Berici

[Dario Crespi]

>
> Scusate sono nuovo a mappare, quindi questi aspetti dei confini non li ho
> ancora ben chiari. Sto modificando le aree del Parco dei monti Simbruini,
> sia prima della mia modifica, che dopo, le aree ricalcano le linee degli
> alberi...e non il perimetro del parco stesso. Anche perché il tag che ho
> messo "managed forest" e "natural fell" si riferiscono al tipo di
> alberi...che ovviamente esulano dai confini del parco. Sto sbagliando???
> Grazie e scusate ancora


Se stai mappando un parco il confine (boundary=protected_area) deve essere
necessariamente quello del parco (che quindi non è visibile sul luogo né
sulle immagini aeree), che può contenere gruppi di alberi, laghi, prati,
campi coltivati, eccetera.
Il managed_forest va messo solo per i boschi che si trovano all'interno
(del tutto o in parte) o all'esterno del parco.

Dario

Il giorno 5 maggio 2016 20:39, Croce Domenico 
ha scritto:

> Scusate sono nuovo a mappare, quindi questi aspetti dei confini non li ho
> ancora ben chiari. Sto modificando le aree del Parco dei monti Simbruini,
> sia prima della mia modifica, che dopo, le aree ricalcano le linee degli
> alberi...e non il perimetro del parco stesso. Anche perché il tag che ho
> messo "managed forest" e "natural fell" si riferiscono al tipo di
> alberi...che ovviamente esulano dai confini del parco. Sto sbagliando???
> Grazie e scusate ancora
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Begin Daniel]

I did not find any buildings (except those from Canvec and GeoBase) in the 
GCODP.
May Mojgan got it from somewhere else? …
Daniel

From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
Sent: May-05-16 14:04
To: Begin Daniel
Cc: James; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

Mojgan recently imported some Stat Can data through the Government of Canada 
Oren Data portal.
Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 13:47, Begin Daniel 
> wrote:
As far I can tell from the imagery available (Bing & Mapbox), the data from 
Geobase & Canvec are not up-to-date, neither for roads nor for buildings, and I 
do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan?

Daniel

From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: May-05-16 12:42
To: john whelan
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available? Nope. 
Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going up in 
flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan 
> wrote:
I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it gets 
a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two tile 
systems over the same area.
Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of every 
building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also available in 
CANVEC for firefighters etc.
Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James > 
wrote:
I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray. 
Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall 
> wrote:

I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier imagery.

I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.

John Marshall
On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James" > 
wrote:
I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get satelite 
imagery.
What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca 
for Fort McMurray and we can trace buildings as they are not all there

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
> wrote:
As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
for Fort McMurray?

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Re: [Talk-it] Colli Berici

[Croce Domenico]

Scusate sono nuovo a mappare, quindi questi aspetti dei confini non li ho
ancora ben chiari. Sto modificando le aree del Parco dei monti Simbruini,
sia prima della mia modifica, che dopo, le aree ricalcano le linee degli
alberi...e non il perimetro del parco stesso. Anche perché il tag che ho
messo "managed forest" e "natural fell" si riferiscono al tipo di
alberi...che ovviamente esulano dai confini del parco. Sto sbagliando???
Grazie e scusate ancora
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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Tonight's pub

[Rob Nickerson]

We have moved to the red lion (just up the road).

Rob
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[Talk-lt] Mapathonas Technariume: šeštadienį!

[Egle Marija Ramanauskaite]

Sveiki,

primenu ir labai kviečiu prisijungti OSM žemėlapiavimui šeštadienį,
Technariume ;) bus picos, kompanijos ir smagios veiklos.

Iki susitikimo šeštadienį!

P.S. pradedame 11.00, bet galite prisijungti ir vėliau ;)
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[john whelan]

Mojgan recently imported some Stat Can data through the Government of
Canada Oren Data portal.

Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 13:47, Begin Daniel  wrote:

> As far I can tell from the imagery available (Bing & Mapbox), the data
> from Geobase & Canvec are not up-to-date, neither for roads nor for
> buildings, and I do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan?
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* May-05-16 12:42
> *To:* john whelan
> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
>
>
>
> They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available?
> Nope. Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going
> up in flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan 
> wrote:
>
> I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it
> gets a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two
> tile systems over the same area.
>
> Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of
> every building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also
> available in CANVEC for firefighters etc.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
> On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James  wrote:
>
> I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray.
> Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire
>
> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall  wrote:
>
> I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier
> imagery.
>
> I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.
>
> John Marshall
>
> On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James"  wrote:
>
> I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get
> satelite imagery.
>
> What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray
> and we can trace buildings as they are not all there
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
> wrote:
>
> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
> for Fort McMurray?
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Re: [Talk-it] Colli Berici

[Simone F.]

Il giorno 5 maggio 2016 19:43, Volker Schmidt  ha
scritto:

> La mia prima domanda: chi definisce i confini deile Alpi.
>

Avevo avuto lo stesso dubbio, per questo ho scritto "Se questo modo di
mappare è condiviso".
Non so come rispondere ma sarebbe un peccato non avere queste informazioni
sulla mappa.


Ciao,
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[Talk-GB] Schools Project

[Christian Ledermann]

Hi,

I developed an application that enables to compare OSM,
Ordonancesurvey, Edubase and SEED data.

https://github.com/cleder/os-opendata-edubase

Please have a look and let me know what you think.

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Mobile : +44 7474997517

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2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.

3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.

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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Begin Daniel]

As far I can tell from the imagery available (Bing & Mapbox), the data from 
Geobase & Canvec are not up-to-date, neither for roads nor for buildings, and I 
do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan?

Daniel

From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: May-05-16 12:42
To: john whelan
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available? Nope. 
Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going up in 
flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan 
> wrote:
I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it gets 
a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two tile 
systems over the same area.
Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of every 
building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also available in 
CANVEC for firefighters etc.
Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James > 
wrote:
I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray. 
Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall 
> wrote:

I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier imagery.

I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.

John Marshall
On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James" > 
wrote:
I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get satelite 
imagery.
What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca 
for Fort McMurray and we can trace buildings as they are not all there

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
> wrote:
As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
for Fort McMurray?

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Re: [Talk-it] Colli Berici

[Volker Schmidt]

Utente scratera  ha creato la
relazione 2698607 . Sarei
curioso su quale dati si è basato.

2016-05-05 19:43 GMT+02:00 Volker Schmidt :

> La mia prima domanda: chi definisce i confini deile Alpi.
> Noi abbiamo qua i Colli (o Monti) Berici che non hanno un confine ben
> definito. Sull'altro lato dell'autostrada Valdastico Sud ci sono i Colli
> Euganei che in linea di massima soffrono dello stesso problema, ma lì
> esiste il Parco Regionale dei Colli Euganei e questo parco dispone di
> confini precisi, ma la mountain_range dei Colli Euganei non ha confini
> precisi, esattamente come gli Alpi o i Colli Berici.
> Se Guardi in dettaglio la relazione 2698607
>  vedi subito, che non
> rappresenta un oggetto verificabile né in documenti pubblici né sul
> terreno. E' composto da lunge linee rette arbitrariamente disegnato da
> qualche mappatore.
>
> 2016-05-05 19:26 GMT+02:00 Simone F. :
>
>> Il giorno 30 aprile 2016 21:57, Volker Schmidt  ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>> Se parlate dei Colli Berici vicino a Vicenza non sono una foresta, ma un
>>> gruppo di colline senza confine preciso, cioè una zona geografica
>>>
>> Le Alpi sono mappate con un multipoligono taggato
>> "natural=mountain_range" (tag usato 94 volte secondo taginfo).
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2698607
>>
>> Se questo modo di mappare è condiviso si potrebbe crearne uno analogo.
>>
>> https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monti_Berici
>>
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Simone F.
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Re: [Talk-it] WTOSM

[Simone F.]

Il giorno 6 novembre 2015 14:23, Simone Cortesi  ha
scritto:

> Ciao,
> mi spiegate perche' in
> http://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/wtosm/it_IT/index_2.html
>
> ho alcuni pin al di fuori dell'italia?
> ... nella pagina wikipedia corrispondente ... le sue coordinate sono
> corrette.
>

Mi sono accorto solo adesso che avevo risposto solo a Simone, dicendo:
"Le coordinate degli articoli non sono lette direttamente da Wikipedia ma
da un dump di un anno fa e quindi non sono aggiornate..."

Adesso le coordinate sono scaricate direttamente da Wikipedia [0], sono
quindi più numerose e aggiornate.
Sono state scaricate una tantum ma volendo si potrebbe dire al programma di
farlo regolarmente, ad es. mensilmente.

Altri aggiornamenti:
- nella scheda "Aiuto" c'è un nuovo video tutorial per JOSM [1], grazie ad
Alessandro Palmas
- c'è una nuova categoria "Divisioni amministrative", su richiesta di sabas
e suggerimenti di Paolo Monegato [2]; gli articoli sono molto numerosi ma
purtroppo al momento non possono essere suddivisi per regione e sono
rovesciati su un'unica lunghissima pagina.

Grazie a Luca per aver aggiornato le pagine sul server.


Ciao,
Simone F.

[0] API https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GeoData#prop.3Dcoordinates
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7mc37dxnS8
[2]
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Re: [Talk-it] Colli Berici

[Volker Schmidt]

La mia prima domanda: chi definisce i confini deile Alpi.
Noi abbiamo qua i Colli (o Monti) Berici che non hanno un confine ben
definito. Sull'altro lato dell'autostrada Valdastico Sud ci sono i Colli
Euganei che in linea di massima soffrono dello stesso problema, ma lì
esiste il Parco Regionale dei Colli Euganei e questo parco dispone di
confini precisi, ma la mountain_range dei Colli Euganei non ha confini
precisi, esattamente come gli Alpi o i Colli Berici.
Se Guardi in dettaglio la relazione 2698607
 vedi subito, che non
rappresenta un oggetto verificabile né in documenti pubblici né sul
terreno. E' composto da lunge linee rette arbitrariamente disegnato da
qualche mappatore.

2016-05-05 19:26 GMT+02:00 Simone F. :

> Il giorno 30 aprile 2016 21:57, Volker Schmidt  ha
> scritto:
>
>> Se parlate dei Colli Berici vicino a Vicenza non sono una foresta, ma un
>> gruppo di colline senza confine preciso, cioè una zona geografica
>>
> Le Alpi sono mappate con un multipoligono taggato "natural=mountain_range"
> (tag usato 94 volte secondo taginfo).
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2698607
>
> Se questo modo di mappare è condiviso si potrebbe crearne uno analogo.
>
> https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monti_Berici
>
>
> Ciao,
> Simone F.
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[Talk-cz] dotaz na délku turistických tras v OSM ČR

[Zdeněk Pražák]

Chtěl jsem se zeptat, zda se dá nějak (někde) získat délka zmapovaných 
turistických tras v ČR v OSM mapě.
Podle mě známých údajů má KČT vyznačeno okolo 42000 km turistických tras, 
tak bych se rád dověděl kolik ještě zbývá zmapovat
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Pierre Béland]

Priorités Réseau routier
Dans JOM Utiliser couche Routes Geobase- Ajouter noms de rues et routes- 
Ajouter adresses 

Attention, pour que rues soit bien détectées addr:street == highway name rue 
adjacente
Mettre noms au long (pas d'abbréviation comme sur carte Geobase)Boulevard, 
Street, Crescent, etc. 

Validation adresses, voir Geofabrik OSM Inspectormise-a-jour au 
24hhttp://bit.ly/1rtIgPr
  
Pierre 


  De : Pierre Béland 
 À : James ; john whelan  
Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
 Envoyé le : jeudi 5 mai 2016 13h18
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
   
C'est un projet que la communauté OSM du Canada est capable de gérer.
Tout comme John, je pense que les municipalités sont assez bien équipées en 
outils SIG et inventaire des immeubles.  Lors des inondations à 
Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu en 2011, les municipalités avaient des cartes très 
précises de chaque terrain.
Ce qui serait le plus utile dans un premier temps, c'est de travailler à 
l'extérieur de la zone urbaine de Fort McMurray.
Pour moi les priorités sont :- Tracer toutes les routes dans la région 
- Tracer des polygones autour des zones résidentielles dans les environ de Fort 
McMurray- Tracer tous les immeubles isolés à l'extérieur des zones urbaines. 
 
Pierre 


  De : James 
 À : john whelan  
Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
 Envoyé le : jeudi 5 mai 2016 12h42
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
  
They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available? Nope. 
Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going up in 
flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan  wrote:

I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it gets 
a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two tile 
systems over the same area.

Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of every 
building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also available in 
CANVEC for firefighters etc.

Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James  wrote:

I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray. 
Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall  wrote:

I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier 
imagery.I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.John 
MarshallOn May 5, 2016 11:39, "James"  wrote:

I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get satelite 
imagery.
What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray and we 
can trace buildings as they are not all there

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon  wrote:

As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
for Fort McMurray?

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Re: [Talk-it] Colli Berici

[Simone F.]

Il giorno 30 aprile 2016 21:57, Volker Schmidt  ha
scritto:

> Se parlate dei Colli Berici vicino a Vicenza non sono una foresta, ma un
> gruppo di colline senza confine preciso, cioè una zona geografica
>
Le Alpi sono mappate con un multipoligono taggato "natural=mountain_range"
(tag usato 94 volte secondo taginfo).
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2698607

Se questo modo di mappare è condiviso si potrebbe crearne uno analogo.

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monti_Berici


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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Pierre Béland]

C'est un projet que la communauté OSM du Canada est capable de gérer.
Tout comme John, je pense que les municipalités sont assez bien équipées en 
outils SIG et inventaire des immeubles.  Lors des inondations à 
Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu en 2011, les municipalités avaient des cartes très 
précises de chaque terrain.
Ce qui serait le plus utile dans un premier temps, c'est de travailler à 
l'extérieur de la zone urbaine de Fort McMurray.
Pour moi les priorités sont :- Tracer toutes les routes dans la région 
- Tracer des polygones autour des zones résidentielles dans les environ de Fort 
McMurray- Tracer tous les immeubles isolés à l'extérieur des zones urbaines. 
 
Pierre 


  De : James 
 À : john whelan  
Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
 Envoyé le : jeudi 5 mai 2016 12h42
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
   
They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available? Nope. 
Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going up in 
flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan  wrote:

I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it gets 
a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two tile 
systems over the same area.

Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of every 
building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also available in 
CANVEC for firefighters etc.

Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James  wrote:

I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray. 
Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall  wrote:

I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier 
imagery.I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.John 
MarshallOn May 5, 2016 11:39, "James"  wrote:

I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get satelite 
imagery.
What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray and we 
can trace buildings as they are not all there

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon  wrote:

As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
for Fort McMurray?

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[OSM-legal-talk] Draft Guidelines

[Dale Kunce]

I'm not a frequent contributor to the legal talk list but I wanted to voice
my support for the current draft guidelines (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collective_Database_Guideline).

In my work for the Red Cross I work in many places around the world with
many different partners including, NGOs, governments, and corporations. The
proposed guidelines for me clear up some of the ambiguity that currently
exist with the license and allows for all of the above to work more closely
and extensively with OSM.

I look forward to seeing the adoption of the draft guidelines as they are
now and to the continued success of OSM.

Dale

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Re: [Talk-at] Eisenbahn-Kreuzung wird stillgelegt

[Kevin Kofler]

Borut Maricic wrote:
> Wen interessiert das? Wohl keinen.

Hängt davon ab… Wenn die es machen wie in Wien beim Bahnübergang bei 
48°12'20,3"N, 16°26'56,5"O nahe der ehemaligen S-Bahn Station Lobau, bei dem 
sie damals alles abgezäunt hatten (inzwischen gibt es dort allerdings einen 
neuen Bahnübergang, der Zaun links und rechts davon ist aber geblieben), 
dann wird es die Leute, die drüberwollen, schon interessieren; wenn sie aber 
nur ein Verbotsschild hinstellen, dann wird es vermutlich allen egal sein. 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[James]

They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available? Nope.
Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going up in
flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan  wrote:

> I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it
> gets a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two
> tile systems over the same area.
>
> Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of
> every building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also
> available in CANVEC for firefighters etc.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James  wrote:
>
>> I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray.
>> Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire
>>
>> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>>
>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall  wrote:
>>
>>> I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier
>>> imagery.
>>>
>>> I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.
>>>
>>> John Marshall
>>> On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James"  wrote:
>>>
 I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get
 satelite imagery.
 What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray
 and we can trace buildings as they are not all there

 On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
 wrote:

> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
> for Fort McMurray?
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[john whelan]

I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it
gets a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two
tile systems over the same area.

Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of
every building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also
available in CANVEC for firefighters etc.

Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James  wrote:

> I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray.
> Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire
>
> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall  wrote:
>
>> I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier
>> imagery.
>>
>> I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.
>>
>> John Marshall
>> On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James"  wrote:
>>
>>> I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get
>>> satelite imagery.
>>> What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray
>>> and we can trace buildings as they are not all there
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
 Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

 Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
 yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
 for Fort McMurray?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Gamification in Volunteered Geographic Information in regard with Contributors' Motivations

[Nicolás Alvarez]

There are some more "trivial" gamifications that can already help with
motivation, such as the user ranking shown in HOT tasks.

-- 
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2016-05-05 13:11 GMT-03:00 Ben Discoe :
> I thought it was odd that the survey listed two osm "gamifications" I'd
> never heard of, and didn't mention a few I do know of, like the missingmaps
> leaderboard ( http://www.missingmaps.org/leaderboards/#/missingmaps ), the
> telenav challenges (2014-2015, with leaderboard and cash prizes) or numerous
> other leaderboards like MapLesotho's ( http://maplesotho.cbroderick.me ),
> not to mention the OSM rank itself, as it appears on HDYC (
> http://hdyc.neis-one.org/ ) which I check daily. HDYC shows that there are
> still two human accounts higher-ranked than me, obviously I must map
> harder!! :)
>
> -Ben
>
> On May 4, 2016 10:56 AM, "Chen Chen"  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> My name is Chen Chen and I am a Masters student working under the
> supervision of Dr. Peter Johnson in the Department of Geography and
> Environmental Management at the University of Waterloo. We are currently
> seeking volunteers from the OpenStreetMap (OSM) community to participate in
> a study that focuses on the impact of game elements on motivations to
> contribute to OSM. We would like to invite you to join our study.
>
> Participation in this study involves a web questionnaire, with a potential
> follow-up interview. The link to the web questionnaire is:
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/osmvgigamification. The questionnaire should
> take approximately 20 minutes of your time. This study has been reviewed and
> received ethics clearance through a University of Waterloo Research Ethics
> Committee.
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>
>
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> the prize is based on the number of individuals who participate in the
> study. The final decision about participation is yours.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Chen Chen
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>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Gamification in Volunteered Geographic Information in regard with Contributors' Motivations

[Ben Discoe]

I thought it was odd that the survey listed two osm "gamifications" I'd
never heard of, and didn't mention a few I do know of, like the missingmaps
leaderboard ( http://www.missingmaps.org/leaderboards/#/missingmaps ), the
telenav challenges (2014-2015, with leaderboard and cash prizes) or
numerous other leaderboards like MapLesotho's (
http://maplesotho.cbroderick.me ), not to mention the OSM rank itself, as
it appears on HDYC ( http://hdyc.neis-one.org/ ) which I check daily. HDYC
shows that there are still two human accounts higher-ranked than me,
obviously I must map harder!! :)

-Ben
On May 4, 2016 10:56 AM, "Chen Chen"  wrote:

Hello,



My name is Chen Chen and I am a Masters student working under the
supervision of Dr. Peter Johnson in the Department of Geography and
Environmental Management at the University of Waterloo. We are currently
seeking volunteers from the OpenStreetMap (OSM) community to participate in
a study that focuses on the impact of game elements on motivations to
contribute to OSM. We would like to invite you to join our study.

Participation in this study involves a web questionnaire, with a potential
follow-up interview. The link to the web questionnaire is:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/osmvgigamification. The questionnaire
should take
approximately 20 minutes of your time. This study has been reviewed and
received ethics clearance through a University of Waterloo Research Ethics
Committee.



In appreciation of the time you have given to this study, you can enter
your email address into a draw for a $50 Amazon Gift Card. Your odds of
winning the prize is based on the number of individuals who participate in
the study. The final decision about participation is yours.



Sincerely,



Chen Chen



M.Sc. Geomatics

Geospatial Innovation Laboratory

Department of Geography and Environmental Management

University of Waterloo

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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[John Marshall]

I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier
imagery.

I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.

John Marshall
On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James"  wrote:

> I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get
> satelite imagery.
> What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray
> and we can trace buildings as they are not all there
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
> wrote:
>
>> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
>> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>>
>> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
>> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
>> for Fort McMurray?
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[Talk-lv] mazā brīvības iela

[Rihards]

lietotājiem radās jautājums - wtf "mazā brīvības iela" rīgā ?

pameklējot internetā, bija tikai rīgas satiksmes un letas relīzēs, vienu 
reizi. varbūt mainām "name" uz "alt_name" ?


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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[James]

I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get satelite
imagery.
What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray and
we can trace buildings as they are not all there

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
wrote:

> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
> for Fort McMurray?
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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Limite de cidades com distritos

[Leonardo Brondani Schenkel]

On 05/05/2016 15:57, Gerald Weber wrote:
> Eu consultei esta tabela, não se trata de governo, são associações
> regionais que substituiram governos regionais que foram extintos. Eu
> entendo então que estas regiões perderam a função político-administrativa.

Beleza. Não discordando, só dizendo que o problema é que o que é
"governo" e "administrativo" também é um termo nebuloso que depende do
leitor. Cada país tem a sua forma de administrar, e a categorização
dificilmente é "bonitinha".

Eu iria responder seus outros pontos não para rebater mas porque são
interessantes e queria continuar a conversa, mas vou fazer diferente:
vou exemplificar como seria a divisão administrativa se eu fosse o
ditador do OSM — e explicar o porquê.

(Antes que eu seja mal interpretado por alguém, enfatizo que isto é
opinião puramente pessoal só a título de conversa, não é uma proposta,
nunca vai ser uma proposta e também não é essa opinião que está
embasando eu defender mudar a forma de representar regiões estatísticas.)

Para mim, no espírito pragmático do OSM que envolve "the truth is on the
ground" e que um mapeador não deveria precisar consultar legislação ou
regulamentos obscuros para saber mapear da forma apropriada, o
`boundary=administrative` deveria ser usado para codificar a estrutura
administrativa como ela é assim PERCEBIDA pelos habitantes daquele
local, independente se tem governo, se é mesmo administrativa na
prática, ou de tecnicalidades de legislação ou qualquer outra coisa.

Basicamente os critérios seriam esses:
- uma pessoa leiga tem conhecimento da existência daquela divisão
- uma pessoa leiga percebe aquela divisão como sendo uma sub-divisão de
uma divisão administrativa maior
- aquela divisão é mencionada regularmente em jornais, noticiário, etc.
- é esperado que apareça em um mapa político-administrativo "normal"

Tudo que não atende aos critérios acima, mesmo que seja administrativo,
é na prática uma região "invisível" pois as pessoas não sabem que
existe. Ela pode e deve ser codificada, mas não via
`boundary=administrative`.

Usando os critérios acima para o Brasil:
1. grandes regiões: SIM
2. estados: SIM
3. mesorregiões: NÃO
4. regiões metropolitanas: SIM
5. microrregiões: NÃO
6. municípios: SIM
7. distritos: SIM (mas não o Sede)
8. sub-distritos: TALVEZ?
9. bairros: SIM

Escrevi "NÃO" para as meso/micro-regiões porque na minha percepção, se
eu pegar uma pessoa aleatória na rua, mesmo que tenha formação superior,
não vai saber dizer em qual micro ou mesorregião ela reside. Talvez nem
saiba o que são, se não lembra mais da escola (isso se aprendeu na
escola). É uma região "invisível": é usada dentro de um gabinete, não
interessa para a população.

Suécia:
1. landsdel: SIM/TALVEZ
2. län: SIM
3. kommun: SIM
4. stadsdelsområde: SIM
5. stadsdel: NÃO/TALVEZ

O "stadsdel" é algo como se fosse o distrito, mas acho que na maioria
das cidades só existe mesmo para efeitos de administração e portanto
também é "invisível" — porque nunca vi evidência física dela existir ou
ser mencionada em lugar nenhum. Minha impressão é que o sueco típico não
sabe quais são ou mesmo que existam. E os bairros, que não estão na
hierarquia hoje, entrariam na hierarquia conforme a minha definição.

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[Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Andrew MacKinnon]

As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
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[Talk-us] Updates:LA County building import (Los Angeles, California, USA)

[maning sambale]

Hi,

Over the past month, since we started the LA building import [0],
~330K buildings were added by 74 different users [1]. We ran several
mapathon events [2] in LA to kickstart the import with local mappers.

As this has been going on we've been validating the work, and fixing
any data quality issues we've encountered. If you have specific concerns,
please post in the repo [3].

The OSM Operations group has asked that we pause on all large mapping
import activities for the next two weeks as they prepare for the
upcoming
server move. Since we are adding thousands of nodes for each changeset,
this is slowing down the backup process.

We will update the list once we get the green light again. [4]

[0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Los_angeles,_California/Buildings_Import
[1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/lacounty:ain#overview
[2] http://www.meetup.com/MaptimeLA/
[3] https://github.com/osmlab/labuildings/issues
[4] https://github.com/osmlab/labuildings/issues/88

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 8:48 PM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We've started the import this during MaptimeLA [0] last April 2.
> First project focused on Southside LA [1].
> For any issues regarding the process and the data please post a ticket
> in GH [2].
>
> [0] http://www.meetup.com/MaptimeLA/events/229861154/
> [1] http://labuildingsimport.com/project/2
> [2] https://github.com/osmlab/labuildings/issues
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Christoph Hormann
>  wrote:
>> On Thursday 24 March 2016, maning sambale wrote:
>>>
>>> > - Tagging still looks vague.  What you have on
>>> > https://github.com/osmlab/labuildings/blob/master/README.md is just
>>> > a list of OSM keys to use but there is no information on the values
>>> > -
>>>
>>> Right, I updated the wiki to describe the tags.  Still a work in
>>> progress, but see here:
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Los_angeles,_California/Buildings
>>>_Import#Data_Preparation
>>
>> Thanks, this clarifies things a lot and mostly looks good.
>>
>> Regarding tagging plans please consider that building=farm is
>> exclusively for residential building on a farm, not for other buildings
>> with farming related use.
>>
>>> The initial offset we saw was due to re-projection issues from NAD83
>>> to WGS84 datum.  By using a custom projection parameters the
>>> difference is very minimal difference (10 micrometer precision
>>> range). Reprojection is now step is now added in the wiki.
>>
>> OK. I was also concerned about vertical datum (i.e. reference geoid) for
>> elevation values and feet vs. meters for ele and height.
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.imagico.de/
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-es] Propuesta de cambios en la normalización para las vías interurbanas

[carlos tapia]

Copio algunos mensajes que he puesto por Telegram a raíz de la discusión sobre 
normalización de carreteras. OSM siempre ha tenido una crítica y es que la 
gente que no es de Europa o Estados Unidos lo ve como un mapa sólo para 
nosotros, es decir, un mapa para occidente precisamente por el tema de las 
carreteras.Por ejemplo, cuando el terremoto de Nepal estuve mapeando carreteras 
de allí y las primary aquí no las consideraríamos ni tan si quiera terciarias. 
Pero allí son primary por su importancia, no existe otra alternativa.Pienso que 
si de verdad se quiere hacer un mapa común, y no por países, se deben mapear 
las carreteras por su importancia, no por sus características físicas. Y luego 
añadir esas características en los tags, que para eso están.Si se aplica a 
rajatabla el criterio por características físicas de la carretera habría varios 
problemas, países en los que no tendrían ninguna “primary road” debido a que no 
cumplen con los criterios que usamos en occidente, y todas las calles deberían 
ser “residential” porque son eso, calles; y no es lo mismo el Paseo de la 
castellana que tiene más carriles que muchas autovías, que calles de mi pueblo 
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Registration is Now Open for State of the Map!

[Rob Nickerson]

Currently scheduled for the end of June. If we get good sponsorship levels
this year then we may push it back, if lots of people sign up early we may
bring it forward. We want to keep SotM cost neutral and current budget
shows we can do that with about 50% of tickets sold as early bird.

Rob


And when will that (the price going up) happen? In other words, what's the
early bird deadline?

(Yes, I have looked at both the blog and the website!)

Jonathan.

On 02/05/2016 21:56, Rob Nickerson wrote:

Hi all,

Tickets for State of the Map 2016 are now on sale. Get yours before the
price goes up (to EUR 100)!

https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2016/05/02/registration-is-now-open-for-state-of-the-map/

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Registration is Now Open for State of the Map!

[Brian Prangle]

Hi Mark

No need to very bored in Redditch. There's a shedload of mapping to do in
Redditch. What are you currently mapping? We may be able to give some
remote assistance with armchair mapping and/or problem solving. Have you
tried using photos with Mapillary?  It's great for capturing lots of detail

Regards

Brian

On 4 May 2016 at 17:43, Mark Croft Redditch Linux Mint <
mark.croft@gmail.com> wrote:

> i did not know it was common for OSS/linux/opensource/etc style
> projects to charge there volunteers to attend , wish i was rich
> computer programmer with lots of free time to kill at these events but
> i am not , i am the complete opposition being disabled and unable to
> find any neche in the computer world anymore , i found work very hard
> when i was a computer programmer starting out and was only in work for
> 4 years and the company had a restructing. I lost my job and never
> found another one been unemployed for 22 years now. I do not have a
> degree and did try to get a computer programming degree but cos i was
> too bad customer for the banks i could not pay for student halls (i
> never paid for accomodation in the end at univeristy of humberside n
> licoln at the hull campus) it was a nightmare. I did get a little bit
> of support from disabled student suppport services got diagnose with
> dyselixa and got a special stamp that i used on my assignments which
> really meant that the lectureers just gave me a pass mark on most of
> them some of thut programming stuff i was getting merits on.  I found
> the degree pretty lame really and a lot of very dishearted lectureers
> that where being overworked and stretched across a number of different
> campuses.
> The maths lecture just told me to copy somebody elses work cos he did
> not have time to explain it too me.
>
> so in the end i never went back after the first year and a few grand
> in debt to the student loan company i guess they will never get it
> back.
>
> very bored mark in  redditch
>
> On 3 May 2016 at 18:08, Martín Ferrari  wrote:
> > On 02/05/16 21:56, Rob Nickerson wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Tickets for State of the Map 2016 are now on sale. Get yours before the
> >> price goes up (to EUR 100)!
> >
> > Sadly, this cost is too high to justify attending. I care about OSM, and
> > I have been a silent contributor for years, but spending on plane
> > tickets, acommodation, and on top of that 75-100 EUR to attend the
> > conference, is just too much money for this little hobby of mine.
> >
> > I think it is a sad state when most libre projects I care about charge
> > its own volunteers to gather and improve the community, specially when
> > corporate sponsors could be offsetting this cost. OSM is far from the
> > only one, I am just writing this because I am getting increasingly
> > annoyed by the situation.
> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [OSM-talk-ie] Registration is Now Open for State of the Map!

[Brian Prangle]

Hi Mark

No need to very bored in Redditch. There's a shedload of mapping to do in
Redditch. What are you currently mapping? We may be able to give some
remote assistance with armchair mapping and/or problem solving. Have you
tried using photos with Mapillary?  It's great for capturing lots of detail

Regards

Brian

On 4 May 2016 at 17:43, Mark Croft Redditch Linux Mint <
mark.croft@gmail.com> wrote:

> i did not know it was common for OSS/linux/opensource/etc style
> projects to charge there volunteers to attend , wish i was rich
> computer programmer with lots of free time to kill at these events but
> i am not , i am the complete opposition being disabled and unable to
> find any neche in the computer world anymore , i found work very hard
> when i was a computer programmer starting out and was only in work for
> 4 years and the company had a restructing. I lost my job and never
> found another one been unemployed for 22 years now. I do not have a
> degree and did try to get a computer programming degree but cos i was
> too bad customer for the banks i could not pay for student halls (i
> never paid for accomodation in the end at univeristy of humberside n
> licoln at the hull campus) it was a nightmare. I did get a little bit
> of support from disabled student suppport services got diagnose with
> dyselixa and got a special stamp that i used on my assignments which
> really meant that the lectureers just gave me a pass mark on most of
> them some of thut programming stuff i was getting merits on.  I found
> the degree pretty lame really and a lot of very dishearted lectureers
> that where being overworked and stretched across a number of different
> campuses.
> The maths lecture just told me to copy somebody elses work cos he did
> not have time to explain it too me.
>
> so in the end i never went back after the first year and a few grand
> in debt to the student loan company i guess they will never get it
> back.
>
> very bored mark in  redditch
>
> On 3 May 2016 at 18:08, Martín Ferrari  wrote:
> > On 02/05/16 21:56, Rob Nickerson wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Tickets for State of the Map 2016 are now on sale. Get yours before the
> >> price goes up (to EUR 100)!
> >
> > Sadly, this cost is too high to justify attending. I care about OSM, and
> > I have been a silent contributor for years, but spending on plane
> > tickets, acommodation, and on top of that 75-100 EUR to attend the
> > conference, is just too much money for this little hobby of mine.
> >
> > I think it is a sad state when most libre projects I care about charge
> > its own volunteers to gather and improve the community, specially when
> > corporate sponsors could be offsetting this cost. OSM is far from the
> > only one, I am just writing this because I am getting increasingly
> > annoyed by the situation.
> >
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [OSM-talk-ie] Registration is Now Open for State of the Map!

[Brian Prangle]

Hi Mark

No need to very bored in Redditch. There's a shedload of mapping to do in
Redditch. What are you currently mapping? We may be able to give some
remote assistance with armchair mapping and/or problem solving. Have you
tried using photos with Mapillary?  It's great for capturing lots of detail

Regards

Brian

On 4 May 2016 at 17:43, Mark Croft Redditch Linux Mint <
mark.croft@gmail.com> wrote:

> i did not know it was common for OSS/linux/opensource/etc style
> projects to charge there volunteers to attend , wish i was rich
> computer programmer with lots of free time to kill at these events but
> i am not , i am the complete opposition being disabled and unable to
> find any neche in the computer world anymore , i found work very hard
> when i was a computer programmer starting out and was only in work for
> 4 years and the company had a restructing. I lost my job and never
> found another one been unemployed for 22 years now. I do not have a
> degree and did try to get a computer programming degree but cos i was
> too bad customer for the banks i could not pay for student halls (i
> never paid for accomodation in the end at univeristy of humberside n
> licoln at the hull campus) it was a nightmare. I did get a little bit
> of support from disabled student suppport services got diagnose with
> dyselixa and got a special stamp that i used on my assignments which
> really meant that the lectureers just gave me a pass mark on most of
> them some of thut programming stuff i was getting merits on.  I found
> the degree pretty lame really and a lot of very dishearted lectureers
> that where being overworked and stretched across a number of different
> campuses.
> The maths lecture just told me to copy somebody elses work cos he did
> not have time to explain it too me.
>
> so in the end i never went back after the first year and a few grand
> in debt to the student loan company i guess they will never get it
> back.
>
> very bored mark in  redditch
>
> On 3 May 2016 at 18:08, Martín Ferrari  wrote:
> > On 02/05/16 21:56, Rob Nickerson wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Tickets for State of the Map 2016 are now on sale. Get yours before the
> >> price goes up (to EUR 100)!
> >
> > Sadly, this cost is too high to justify attending. I care about OSM, and
> > I have been a silent contributor for years, but spending on plane
> > tickets, acommodation, and on top of that 75-100 EUR to attend the
> > conference, is just too much money for this little hobby of mine.
> >
> > I think it is a sad state when most libre projects I care about charge
> > its own volunteers to gather and improve the community, specially when
> > corporate sponsors could be offsetting this cost. OSM is far from the
> > only one, I am just writing this because I am getting increasingly
> > annoyed by the situation.
> >
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Re: [Talk-br] RES: Limite de cidades com distritos

[Leonardo Brondani Schenkel]

Estou respondendo mais para clarificar um pouco do NUTS do que para
desqualificar teu contra-exemplo, ok? O seu ponto ainda é válido, pois
há outros exemplos — entretanto você cometeu um equívoco que é o que eu
quero explicar.

On 05/05/2016 13:04, Gerald Weber wrote:
> Trata-se de um admin_level=5 e boundary=administrative
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/151304
> 
> Segundo a wikipedia :
> South East England is the most populous of the nine official regions of
> England *at the first level of NUTS for statistical purposes*.
> 
> Sendo que NUTS significa: Nomenclature of Territorial Units for
> Statistics 
> 
> Ou seja, no Reino Unido temos regiões em admin_level que que são
> definidas para fins estatísticos. Como esse NUTS é definido pela EU é
> possível que haja mais admin_level derivado do NUTS em outros países
> europeus.

O NUTS é o "IBGE da EU" e divide os países da EU em 5 níveis (3 + 2
LAUs, mas pra simplificar vamos dizer que são 5). O objetivo de sua
divisão é para estatística. Agora, uma grande parte, senão a maioria,
das divisões do NUTS não foi criada pelo NUTS — são divisões
pré-existentes dos países que foram "adotadas" — e a maioria delas são
as político-administrativas, tanto atuais como antigas. Não precisa
acreditar em mim, pode consultar a Wikipedia e ver as regiões NUTS de
cada país.

(Eu, como moro na Suécia, posso te dar o exemplo com conhecimento de
primeira mão sobre como elas são aqui, por exemplo. Das 5, todas foram
administrativas "adotadas". Se quiser responda que explico direitinho
como é a divisão daqui.)

Meu ponto não é dizer que não existam regiões puramente estatísticas do
NUTS; existem sim! Só que só olhando para elas, você não sabe. Tem que
ver caso a caso, país a país. O fato de ser NUTS não diz nada.

Vou usar seu próprio exemplo. O NUTS 1 para o Reino Unido são as
"regions" [1] (ignorando os 3 códigos do NUTS 1 que representam os
outros 'países' que não a Inglaterra). Agora veja o artigo que são as
regiões da Inglaterra [2] (que a própria página [1] referencia) e veja:
- que o primeiro parágrafo diz "they continue to be used for some
administrative purpose"
- que a tabela à direita que mostra que as regiões têm até governo
- que a tabela à direita mostra NUTS 1 como "additional status", elas
precedem o NUTS e a EU
- que tem uma seção inteira (número 2) de nome "Regions as areas of
administration" explicando como funciona a administração dessas regiões

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NUTS_1_statistical_regions_of_England
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_England

Esse é um exemplo clássico do que falei de divisão que (1) não foi
criada pelo NUTS e sim "adotada", (2) não foi criada com finalidade
estatística, e (3) é administrativa — mas o NUTS usa essa região para
fins estatísticos. O nome é "statistical regions of England" porque o
governo central quer tirar toda a administração dali a médio/longo prazo
e renomeou as regiões, mas isso não quer dizer que elas pararam de ser
administrativas. Se o NUTS não existisse, essas regiões ainda existiriam
(pelo menos até o Reino Unido não retirar toda a administração delas e
"matar" as regiões).

Talvez o NUTS 3 do Reino Unido seja estatístico, mas sinceramente como a
divisão deles é de uma complexidade imensa, eu não tenho conhecimento
suficiente para dizer o que exatamente eles são só dando uma olhada rápida.

Contra-exemplos claros do seu argumento são os que o "Papibaquígrafo"
deu (que vou repetir simplesmente por preguiça de levantar novos):
- Bulgária: NUTS 2, admin_level=4
- Hungria: NUTS 2, admin_level=5
Essas são puramente estatísticas (não sei se foram "herdadas" ou criadas
pelo NUTS, mas não faz diferença para a discussão).

Quer ver outro exemplo de "pega-ratão"? Eslovênia: NUTS 2,
admin_level=5, "statistične regije" — até o nome diz, com certeza é
estatístico, não? Errado [3]: "The statistical regions of Slovenia are
12 _administrative_ entities created in 2000 for legal and statistical
purposes".

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_regions_of_Slovenia

> Como muito do OSM tem base ou origem em definições do Reino Unido
> (exemplo: classificações viárias) acho que temos aqui um exemplo claro
> de que não há problema algum em usar regiões criadas para fins
> estatístics com boundary=administrative.

Infelizmente o seu exemplo não foi claro, na verdade foi incorreto. :-)

Mas não faz diferença, seu ponto permanece, basta trocar o exemplo por
Bulgária, Hungria. Não por acaso esses países são novos na EU, são neles
que o NUTS geralmente cria divisões "novas", vou olhar os que entraram
depois dos "tradicionais" porque acho que vão ter mais exemplos. Se
olhar os "tradicionais" membros da EU, virtualmente todos os NUTS vão
ser regiões administrativas atuais ou históricas que o NUTS simplesmente
adotou para critérios estatísticos.

Sobre o que afirmei em outra mensagem, que o Brasil era o 

Re: [Talk-br] RES: Limite de cidades com distritos

[Gerald Weber]

Não estava propriamente buscando contra-exemplos, mas ontem estava
pesquisando um endereço na Inglaterra e me deparei com o seguinte resultado
do nominatim: Residential Road Belmont Road, Portswood, Southampton, South
East, England, SO17 2GE, United Kingdom

me chamou a atenção o "South East" que o nominatim resultou (eu podia jurar
que Southampton era South West)

Trata-se de um admin_level=5 e boundary=administrative
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/151304

Segundo a wikipedia :
South East England is the most populous of the nine official regions of
England *at the first level of NUTS for statistical purposes*.

Sendo que NUTS significa: Nomenclature of Territorial Units for Statistics


Ou seja, no Reino Unido temos regiões em admin_level que que são definidas
para fins estatísticos. Como esse NUTS é definido pela EU é possível que
haja mais admin_level derivado do NUTS em outros países europeus.

Como muito do OSM tem base ou origem em definições do Reino Unido (exemplo:
classificações viárias) acho que temos aqui um exemplo claro de que não há
problema algum em usar regiões criadas para fins estatístics com
boundary=administrative.

abraço a todos

Gerald


2016-05-04 16:56 GMT-03:00 Papibaquígrafo :

> Quanto à afirmação de estar "demonstrado que o Brasil é o único país no
> mundo que usa boundary=administrative para algo que foi criado com fins
> geográficos/estatísticos (não apareceu um contra-exemplo até o momento)":
>
>
> O análogo das subdivisões do IBGE na Europa está explicado aqui:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomenclature_of_Territorial_Units_for_Statistics.
> Algumas das subdivisões listadas ali são também político-administrativa, e
> outras são "puramente estatísticas"; de acordo com a wiki do OSM, muitas
> destas estão representadas como admin_level (Croácia 5, Eslovênia 5,
> Bulgaria 4, Hungria 5, etc). Por outro lado, Espanha e França não mapearam
> os seus respectivos níveis NUTS 1.
>
>
> Fora da Europa, olhando rapidamente na wiki, eu encontrei os seguintes
> admin_levels claramente não-políticos:
>
> Turquia 3
> Austrália 8
> Uganda 3
>
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Wochennotiz Nr. 302 26.04.2016–02.05.2016

[Wochennotizteam]

Hallo,

die Wochennotiz Nr. 302 mit vielen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap 
Welt ist da: 

http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2016/05/wochennotiz-nr-302/

Viel Spaß beim Lesen!
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Wochennotiz Nr. 302 26.04.2016–02.05.2016

[Wochennotizteam]

Hallo,

die Wochennotiz Nr. 302 mit vielen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap 
Welt ist da: 

http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2016/05/wochennotiz-nr-302/

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[Talk-cz] Pirátské KČT rozcestníky ?

[Petr Vozdecký]

Ahoj,

co s tímto? V prostoru Brno-Hády někdo (tipuji základní organizace Českého 
svazu ochránců přírody "Pozemkový spolek Hády") vytvořila "naučnou stezku" 
(tipuji že v rámci nějaké dotace), kterou osadila "rozcestníky". Ty na první
pohled připomínají rozcestníky KČT, ale IMHO to nemá s KČT nic společného. 
Je to jen jakási divoká napodobenina z plastu. Z důvodů podle mě zcela 
iracionálních autor napodobil vizuální design TIMů bez zjevného rozmyslu i s
#ref čísly a to tak, že na všechny směrníky uvedl stejné ref BO317a. V dolní
části doplněno o text "Pěší trasa KČT".

Při bližším pohledu a zamyšlení jde v podstatě o okruh 2,3 km tvořený 
pravděpodobně ze 3 "TIMů" (rozcestníků), pásové značení "green-backslash" 
odpovídající naučné stezce, po cestě jsou nějaké naučné tabule (takže by to 
mohlo jako naučná stezka v mapě asi zůstat), motají do toho pomocné směrníky
k nenavazujícím turistickým trasám a k Lamacentru Hády.

Ještě existuje možnost, že ta naučná stezka je skutečně ve spolupráci s KČT 
a že se prostě vykašlali udělat směrníky dle pokynů KČT (tedy osadit je 
unikátnímy ref).

Fotky 2 rozcestníků mám (viz níže), ale jaké uvést ref?


https://www.dropbox.com/s/nvr50r0j3y1g4jk/BO317%20Nad%20D%C5%BEungl%C3%AD.
jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3naz4klu7gschc1/BO317%20U%20H%C3%A1deck%C3%A9%20
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Re: [Talk-it] Diminuzione Tag totali wikipedia

[Marco_T]

Luca Delucchi wrote
> potrebbe essere, dovrebbe essere risolto

Ora e' perfetto.
Grazie Luca, grazie Simone.
Efficientissimi!!!


Saluti.

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Re: [talk-au] osmaustralia.org website and Garmin .img files - current status ?

[Matt White]

My apologies - fixing that process has been on my list for a long time 
(years...). The computer it runs on for some reason just shuts down 
randomly, so I often boot it up at work and let it run, but it doesn't 
stay up long enough to get through a generation run.


I moved most of the scripts off the old computer today onto a newer 
machine, and rebuilt them, but got side tracked at work and only got 
some basic testing done. I have upgraded the mkgmap version as well, so 
hopefully a few of the newer features will appear (I've got to 
experiment with a few of the settings, and I need to clean up a couple 
of the tpy files)


I'll try and finish it tomorrow hopefully - just got to cleanup the zip 
and upload process and we will be away.


If anyone wants the various scripts I use so they can run the whole 
thing themselves (it's on Windows not linux, so it's a little bit of 
batch file fun, although I was going to port them to powershell for 
fun), email me - the new file/folder layout I put together today makes 
it a little easier to manage the various files, and easier to add in 
other areas to generate.


Matt


On 4/05/2016 11:41 PM, Ian Steer wrote:


Does anyone know what’s happening with the osmaustralia.org website, 
and the regular updates of Garmin .img files ?


They used to be updated roughly weekly, but haven’t been updated since 
February.


(I use these files to update my Garmin GPS with the results of my (and 
everyone else’s) OSM updates.)


Ian



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Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck chybejici rozcestniky do osmap.cz

[Marián Kyral]

-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Hynek Řehoř 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 5. 5. 2016 10:41:15
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck chybejici rozcestniky do osmap.cz

"

Ahoj,



rozcestníky jsem dal mimo silnici, teď pro změnu dostávám hlášku "Role 
guidepost unknown in templates" (viz příloha). Hledal jsem na webu i zde a 
nic k tomu nenašel. Můžu hlášku ignorovat?




"



Ignoruj. Ona totiž ta validace relací "route" s turistickými trasami 
nepočítá. Nevím jestli to už je nahlášené jako bug. Až budu mít trochu času,
tak se na to musím podívat.




Marián



"





Díky, H.




2016-05-04 19:08 GMT+02:00 Tom Ka :
"Dne 4. května 2016 10:02 Hynek Řehoř  
napsal(a):
> jak často se "párují" fotky nahrané přes http://map.openstreetmap.cz/work
2/(http://map.openstreetmap.cz/work2/)
> s rozcestníky? O víkendu jsem nafotil 3 rozcestníky v Jindřichovicích pod
> Smrkem, v pondělí uploadoval ,a stále se zobrazují jako bez ref a fota.
> Fotky jsou v pořádku nahraná, kontroloval jsem.

Aktualizuje se kazde 2 hodiny. Pokud se pak dane rozcestniky
nezparovali s fotkama, tak jsou zrejme dal nez 20m od bodu v OSM. Lze
zkontrolovat na http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?cache
(http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?cache). Kontrola
sama o sobe nic nedoplnuje do OSM, takze dodelani ref a pripadnych
dalsich tagu uz musi nekdo provest - v tabulce jsou to cervene radky.

Bye



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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Next meeting: Atherstone

[Brian Prangle]

I'll go hunting listed buildings in Mancetter and Witherley and then do
some of the east of Atherstone (might do some of the industrial area). See
you in the White Horse

Regards

Brian

On 4 May 2016 at 15:00, Andy Robinson  wrote:

> I think last time we were there we used the White Horse on Long Street.
>
>
>
> If I get time for some mapping I’ll focus on the south side of the railway.
>
>
>
> See you Thursday.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> *From:* Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 02 May 2016 23:45
> *To:* Brian Prangle
> *Cc:* talk-gb-westmidlands
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Next meeting: Atherstone
>
>
>
> Thursday works better for me too so let's go for that.
>
> Do we have mapping properties? Location for food/drinks?
>
> Rob
>
> On 27 Apr 2016 11:47 a.m., "Brian Prangle"  wrote:
>
> I can only do Thursday
>
>
>
> On 26 April 2016 at 23:12, Rob Nickerson 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The next Midlands meeting is at Atherstone. Normally this would be
> Wednesday 4th May however we have an opportunity to move this to the
> Thursday 5th May.
>
> If you are hoping to join us in Atherstone can you please reply with your
> preferred date.
>
> Rob
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[OSM-talk] Navmii notes

[Andreas Vilén]

Has anyone else noticed anonymous notes from the Navmii app is being
created a lot of the time with not very helpful comments such as "blocked
street", sometimes where there's not a street in sight? It's impossible to
communicate with whoever created the note and sometimes very hard to survey
it (i noticed one far into the mountains of northern Sweden where there are
no roads in sight, and a lot have been created on the south pole, which are
obvious mistakes).

As with Appello, whose users created hundreds of notes in the middle of
Stockholm (their standard placement if the gps was turned off), we should
probably ask Navmii to make login mandatory and create checks for gps
accuracy before the note is created. Is there someone who usually handles
contacts like this?

See this thread for the last discussion on this topic:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-July/070311.html

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Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck chybejici rozcestniky do osmap.cz

[Hynek Řehoř]

Ahoj,

rozcestníky jsem dal mimo silnici, teď pro změnu dostávám hlášku "Role
guidepost unknown in templates" (viz příloha). Hledal jsem na webu i zde a
nic k tomu nenašel. Můžu hlášku ignorovat?

Díky, H.

2016-05-04 19:08 GMT+02:00 Tom Ka :

> Dne 4. května 2016 10:02 Hynek Řehoř  napsal(a):
> > jak často se "párují" fotky nahrané přes
> http://map.openstreetmap.cz/work2/
> > s rozcestníky? O víkendu jsem nafotil 3 rozcestníky v Jindřichovicích pod
> > Smrkem, v pondělí uploadoval ,a stále se zobrazují jako bez ref a fota.
> > Fotky jsou v pořádku nahraná, kontroloval jsem.
>
> Aktualizuje se kazde 2 hodiny. Pokud se pak dane rozcestniky
> nezparovali s fotkama, tak jsou zrejme dal nez 20m od bodu v OSM. Lze
> zkontrolovat na http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?cache. Kontrola
> sama o sobe nic nedoplnuje do OSM, takze dodelani ref a pripadnych
> dalsich tagu uz musi nekdo provest - v tabulce jsou to cervene radky.
>
> Bye
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Re: [talk-au] osmaustralia.org website and Garmin .img files -, current status ?

[Ian Bennett]

Ian,
I haven't used that site for ages.
	I get the australia-oceania pbf file from geofabrik.de (updated daily) and use splitter.jar and 
mkgmap.jar (both from www.mkgmap.org.uk) to create my own gmapsupp.img file (I'm still using a 
GPSMap 60CSx).

I do this mainly because I can merge contour lines from Shonky Maps 
onto the final img file.
	The whole process took a little over an hour on my old P4 running at 2.66GHz with 2G RAM. Haven't 
timed it on the new rocket ship yet ;-)

Happy to pass on my process if anyone is interested.

Ian
VK1IAN

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[Talk-se] Ekonomiska kartan som GeoTiff

[Alistair Auffret]

Hej!

Jag är förskare på Naturgeografiska institutionen vid Stockholms 
Universitet, som håller på med ett projekt där jag ska använda mig av de 
äldre ekonomiska kartorna för att koppla landskapsförändringar till 
förändringar i biologisk mångfald över tid i Sverige.


Min forskningsgrupp har ett konto på Lantmäteriets historiska kartor för 
nedladdning av kartblad (och jag dessutom använder Ubuntu där jag kan 
ladda hem utan att logga in) men där kan man bara ladda ner en karta åt 
gången och kartorna är inte georefererade.


Någon tipsade om http://mapproxy.openstreetmap.se där jag kan se att de 
ekonomiska kartbladen visas 'på rätt plats'. Jag läste också att 
GeoTiffar för ekonomiska kartan finns på något sätt på osm 
(http://www.openstreetmap.se/nyheter/2016-04-06-https-och-lokal-ek)


Jag undrar om det vore möjligt att på något sätt få geotiffar över hela 
ekonomiska kartan? Det skulle spara mig en massa tid. Idén är sedan att 
jag ska digitalisera dem i grova markanvändningskategorier med hjälp av 
en kod jag skrivit i R.



Hoppas ni kan hjälpa!


Vänliga hälsningar,
Alistair




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Re: [Talk-it-trentino] Fwd: Castello Tesino, biblioteca comunale, chi ha tenuto talk?

[Maurizio Napolitano]

Sicuramente il 10 maggio.
L'orario penso sia alle 20:30
Al momento non ho molta testa sul pezzo perchè sto organizzando
Spaghetti Open Data.
http://www.spaghettiopendata.org/blog/matteo-brunati/il-programma-di-sod16-costante-aggiornamento

2016-05-05 9:16 GMT+02:00 girarsi_liste :
> Il 05/05/2016 09:13, Maurizio Napolitano ha scritto:
>> Ciao
>> ho sentito l'assessore di Castel Tesino, ed ho fatto presente la questione.
>> Il 10 mi aveva chiesto un intervento ad un gruppo di persone su un progetto
>> che sta portando avanti con un mio collega sulla questione dei meli antichi.
>> A questo punto ho proposto un tutorial a OSM.
>>
>
> Bello, spero le date mi siano accessibili, in questi giorni ho un pò di
> casini, ma spero sia fattibile.
>
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Il 05/05/2016 09:13, Maurizio Napolitano ha scritto:
> Ciao
> ho sentito l'assessore di Castel Tesino, ed ho fatto presente la questione.
> Il 10 mi aveva chiesto un intervento ad un gruppo di persone su un progetto
> che sta portando avanti con un mio collega sulla questione dei meli antichi.
> A questo punto ho proposto un tutorial a OSM.
> 

Bello, spero le date mi siano accessibili, in questi giorni ho un pò di
casini, ma spero sia fattibile.



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[Talk-it-trentino] Fwd: Castello Tesino, biblioteca comunale, chi ha tenuto talk?

[Maurizio Napolitano]

Ciao
ho sentito l'assessore di Castel Tesino, ed ho fatto presente la questione.
Il 10 mi aveva chiesto un intervento ad un gruppo di persone su un progetto
che sta portando avanti con un mio collega sulla questione dei meli antichi.
A questo punto ho proposto un tutorial a OSM.

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Re: [Talk-br] Votação: uso de boundary=administrative para meso/micro-regiões do IBGE

[Leonardo Brondani Schenkel]

Baseado no feedback que recebi desde que comecei o tópico e criei uma
votação, e depois de refletir um pouco sobre o que foi escrito, concordo
que a votação pode ser melhorada. Tenho as seguintes propostas a fazer
para melhorar e clarificar o processo. (Algumas dessas sugestões não vêm
de mim, estou compilando apenas e não reivindicando a autoria.)

1. Colocar no topo da página do wiki [1], de forma destacada, que o voto
tem finalidade de sondagem apenas e a totalização quer determinar (1)
quantos manifestam interesse no assunto e (2) quantos concordam em mudar
o status quo; que nada concreto está em votação e caso seja identificado
interesse e número expressivo manifestando o desejo de mudança, daí sim
apresenta-se uma proposta concreta que será separadamente debatida e
votada; que esta votação não significa apoio para nenhuma proposta
específica nem implica que realmente haverá qualquer mudança nos dados.

[1]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Vota%C3%A7%C3%A3o:uso_de_boundary%3Dadministrative_para_meso_e_microrregi%C3%B5es_do_IBGE

2. Agora que citações começaram a aparecer embasando a posição de quem
defende o status quo, alguns dos argumentos no texto da votação se
tornaram debatíveis e/ou enfraqueceram e o texto passou a ser parcial
porque não as apresentam. Vejo duas possibilidades: (1) sumarizar tudo
que for discutido/apresentado ou (2) remover todos os pontos e apenas
manter links para o fórum e os arquivos mensais da lista.

Pessoalmente prefiro o (2) porque eu pessoalmente não vou ter tempo de
fazer o (1) além de totalizar os votos, então alguém precisaria
voluntariar a me ajudar — e mesmo assim acho que se alguém sumarizar,
algum outro pode questionar a forma ou a parcialidade do sumário. O (2)
simplifica, força quem quer votar a ler tudo e também dá menos trabalho,
o que é um ponto positivo em se falando de voluntariar o tempo.

3. As mensagem que representam votos a partir de agora terão que começar
com: "Li tudo postado no tópico na lista e no fórum até o momento". A
justificativa também passa a ser obrigatória. Sem essas duas coisas ele
não é totalizado.

4. Não existe como agradar a todos, então quero dar possibilidade de
registro para quem continua a ter objeção ao fato da votação existir
criando um terceiro voto, "Objeção" ou "Protesto". Pode ser votado como
os outros e será totalizado.

5. Isto não é na verdade uma mudança, só reforçando que é implícito mas
óbvio que um voto só considerou o que foi discutido e apresentado até o
momento que ele foi feito. Caso tenha feito o voto e queira explicitar
que continua com a mesma opinião mesmo depois de bons argumentos em
contrário, faça ele de novo. Mas acho útil não esperar todos os 90 dias
e sim votar no momento que sua opinião esteja firme, para se ter uma
noção do "andar da carruagem". A qualquer momento o voto pode ser
refeito ou trocado.

No momento só estou apresentando as sugestões acima, não fiz nada de
concreto. Espero que elas estejam abordando as objeções que foram feitas.

Prefiro manter a votação por inércia, já que as pessoas começaram a
fazer suas pesquisas e postar e debater e tem utilidade aproveitar o
momento.

// Leonardo.




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Re: [OSM-talk] Gamification in Volunteered Geographic Information in regard with Contributors' Motivations

[Badita Florin]

Serge, what gamification did you do ? :)
ᐧ

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Serge Wroclawski  wrote:

> As someone who was a developer on a gamification of OSM data, I have
> questions about this study...
>
> What are the terms of the study results? Will they be released as Open
> Science?
>
> Thank you,
>
> - Serge Wroclawski
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Chen Chen  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> My name is Chen Chen and I am a Masters student working under the
>> supervision of Dr. Peter Johnson in the Department of Geography and
>> Environmental Management at the University of Waterloo. We are currently
>> seeking volunteers from the OpenStreetMap (OSM) community to participate
>> in a study that focuses on the impact of game elements on motivations to
>> contribute to OSM. We would like to invite you to join our study.
>>
>> Participation in this study involves a web questionnaire, with a
>> potential follow-up interview. The link to the web questionnaire is:
>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/osmvgigamification. The questionnaire should
>> take approximately 20 minutes of your time. This study has been reviewed
>> and received ethics clearance through a University of Waterloo Research
>> Ethics Committee.
>>
>>
>>
>> In appreciation of the time you have given to this study, you can enter
>> your email address into a draw for a $50 Amazon Gift Card. Your odds of
>> winning the prize is based on the number of individuals who participate in
>> the study. The final decision about participation is yours.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>> Chen Chen
>>
>>
>>
>> M.Sc. Geomatics
>>
>> Geospatial Innovation Laboratory
>>
>> Department of Geography and Environmental Management
>>
>> University of Waterloo
>>
>> c226c...@uwaterloo.ca
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Re: [Talk-it] Diminuzione Tag totali wikipedia

[Luca Delucchi]

2016-05-04 21:32 GMT+02:00 Simone F. :

>
> Luca,
> è possibile che si sia corrotto il file dell'Italia?

potrebbe essere, dovrebbe essere risolto

>
> Ciao,
> Simone F.
>


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Luca

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