ing the will of the
OSM community has proven wrong; iD is a good editor but the iD team has
too often treated the community with contempt (to the point of openly
violating the code of conduct that the iD team had given themselves) and
ignored valid concerns. The relationship hence cannot continue o
h cycling in forests in some parts of Germany, I think that
legally it automatically becomes bicycle=no if width<2m but there's
often discussions about just how much of the way needs to be <2m to make
it off limits for cyclists.
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a elimination" is not enough to explain why you deleted dozens
> of buildings).
If you feel they are disregarding that message, we are happy to block
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a read-only fashion is not super attractive either.
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I didn't even want to weigh in on the discussion, mine was more a
comment on process. You shouldn't delete something that has been there
for 10 years and then say "btw let's discuss" ;)
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actually be removed.
It is clear that there is a need for discussion, and I feel that such a
discussion should take place *before* a change is made and not *after*.
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has someone switched on moderation for this list, and if so, why? I sent
a message 6 hours ago and re-sent it one hour ago and neither seem to
have gone through. Have I overlooked an announcement? Or is it just broken?
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dialogue with users about what they find useful, but if anything the
users want means more complexity for mappers, I'm skeptical.
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Hi,
DWG has received a report from a hiker about a mistake on OSM regarding
the "South Rim Trail" / "Boot Spring Trail" at Big Bend in Texas. Is
anyone familiar with the area and willing to attempt a fix if I forward
details?
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geografica, storica, industriale (casearia) e agricoltura (vino, olio) e
> essere punto di riferimento per i paesi limitrofi, con scuole superiori, ed
> alcuni con tribunali, diocesi ed ospedali.
>
> Ricordiamoci, inoltre, che buona parte di questi centri hanno il titolo di
>
dass landuse nicht
passt, weil es im Grunde nur für eine Flächennutzung ist, wenn überhaupt
müsste es boundary sein, aber auch das ist für OSM nicht passend, und
man kann ja umap nehmen, wenn man eine Bediengebiet-Karte machen will).
Ich hab das mal angefügt.
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On 23.04.20 14:22, Markus via Talk-de wrote:
> Welche Browser habt Ihr getestet? mit welchem Ergebnis?
Ich selber habe Firefox und Chrome benutzt, das ging in der Regel gut,
aber unsere Meetings haben auch immer nur 5 Leute.
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versuchen, anhand der Logfiles herauszufinden, was passiert ist.
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formation, and just serve as crutches for routing engines.
Personally I am very much opposed to the separate mapping of sidewalks,
though I recognize that unless we have routing engines that work without
these crutches, I will have a hard time convincing people to stop doing
that.
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ist keine Relation notwendig, im
Gegenteil, sie würde nur den Pflegeaufwand erhöhen.
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ap - that mappers on the ground have the last word on what
gets into OSM and what not - shouldn't be allowed to publish software
that interacts with our database. I think we should disallow any
contributions made with RapID/map-with-ai and friends.
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aerial imagery would point to armchairing?
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Hi,
On 05.03.20 15:25, Sören Reinecke via talk wrote:
> couldn't we do a vote about that? Would it be possible for the OSMF to
> maintain and coordinate such a voting.
No. The OSMF is not at liberty to grant *anyone* exceptions from the ODbL.
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aware of any benefits (even if you *were*
running several routing engines on the same server using the same
routing graph, which also is not something that makes sense to me).
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ticing a change.
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they're running and what instructions they are giving to users?
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, then the discussion will have been valuable.
We're not there yet though; we're kind of shouting down Tomek because
he's aggressively questioning the status quo, but we haven yet managed
to come up with a rule that would fortify the status quo.
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the USA that lie outside North America will not be included. This mainly
affects Puerto Rico. I'll be making a standalone Puerto Rico file
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would not be the case here; but I think this calls for working on ODbL
1.1 to rectify the issue, rather than sitting back and saying "uh, guess
there's nothing we can do then".
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human-readable page, and
human-readable pages should be created by humans not bots.
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igger problem with people for whom this
English name is a problem, because I would regard that attitude as
fundamentalist and quarrelsome. I'd prefer if they find other
battlegrounds to fight for justice than OSM.
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ed we have the time and
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equipment first!!!") should not be in OSM, and we should not worship
precision that we cannot create ourselves.
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whereas Martin happily fans the flames from a safe distance of over
2,000km away from the nearest Russian tank) - don't sacrifice the OTG rule.
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n't actually feature the UK as an area but you can do
England/Scotland/Wales separately:
http://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe/great-britain/england/
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ganz hinten in der Schlange steht - auch Mapper aus
Deutschland können Unterstützung kriegen. Antrag stellen kostet nichts,
ausser ein bisschen Zeit.
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otally fine; only if you were to publish something that
involves user data should you think twice about your data protection
regulations.
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ho log in with their OSM user name.
> that will be millions of API calls to get the full history
> of every node, way and relation involved. If it has to be, then it has
> to be.
Famous last words before being blocked on the API ;)
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often have extended hours, including 24/7
Is this "usually named ..." really a thing - I have a feeling that
especially with dentists, even (what seems to me like) one-doctor
practices will often be called some thing like "Bay Area Smiles Family
Dentist" or something like that.
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gree in Wikidata to even participate, and where anything you
contribute will be mowed over three times by this bot and that bot in
order to fit into some structure that someone else has devised with
practically zero community oversight, I think I'll prefer the git-based
human-readable "tag
jemand ein
Changeset von Dir kommentiert.
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share your language will
translate. If you *can* use English but don't use it because you want to
make the point that the reliance on English is giving an unfair
advantage to those who can use English - your point is taken, but see #1...
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ion ist als Dankeschön für die unermüdliche Arbeit der
Mapperinnen und Mapper in OSM gedacht. Bitte verzichtet darauf, das
ganze in sozialen Medien weiterzuverbreiten - bis sich das rumspricht,
ist die Warteschlange eh voll, und es gibt nur lange Gesichter.
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Hi,
On 14.12.19 06:41, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> Can you point me to legal definition
> of "substantial part"?
There is none, hence:
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline
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they possibly be used to reassemble
OSM).
I had until now assumed that such works would definitely fall under the
ODbL but you are right, they don't really fit the "Derivative Database"
definition.
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data residue is in the name/description of my new
database: "roads with pubs". It is derived from OSM; it could not have
been made without OSM.
Do you disagree?
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you mention - then the extract you are making is considered not to be
substantial (see
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline)
and therefore does not have to be under ODbL.
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he
place=continent node is the lesser evil.
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for regions,
so that, if you wanted to emulate today's rendering of the "local name"
for everything, you'd first have to look up the local language prefix
and then use the appropriate name:xx - but this was considered too
complicated.
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the
corner "exclude" billions of people from eating there because its menu
is written only in Italian?
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re is size jump, which is strange. Is
> there any reason for this?
Possibly https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Old_TIGER_Import_2005/2006
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ist dann Abstimmung
Nr. 8; für "associate members" ist das die einzige Abstimmung, an der
sie teilnehmen dürfen.
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est node ID in the country. Incidentally it is still the lowest node
ID in the country today, but it is also the lowest node ID in that old
planet file.
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files. But the amount of .cz data in that old planet file is so
small (7251 nodes and 7453 extremely short ways) that it probably
wouldn't make a lot of sense to go back further.
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Kommentare anderer Mapper sowie der wenig aussagekräftige
Changeset-Kommentar sind natürlich nicht gerade der Stil, den man von
einem Top-10-Mapper erwarten würde.
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any members and other members difficult, and good
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s weg, kann man sämtliche 14 Paragraphen
des Rewe-Geldabheber-Endnutzer-Kleingedruckten als note_01 bis note_14
eintragen, denn wen juckt's, man kann es ja ganz leicht jederzeit ändern!
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st Du vor
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2261128043,
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3805970015 oder gar
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r zurück. Die an das einzelne
Objekt *allein* aufgrund von vorhandenem "brand" oder "name" angebrachte
Information "hier kann man Geld abheben" ist redundant.
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kann, als Sammlung eben, dann doch wieder schützenswert sein. Hier ist
der Rechteinhaber aber der, der die Sammlung anfertigt oder anfertigen
lässt, und das ist bei OSM eben die OSMF.
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hen we should find out why rjamz26 has
reverted some of them, and ensure it doesn't happen again.
Any light you can shed on this is helpful.
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are more of a "best practices"
document.
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code findable without actually having to add something
as synthetic as a centroid.
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"get" us at their first attempt. They can turn out to be valuable
members of the community, bringing different views to the table and
broadening our horizon.
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amenities" sounds very far-fetched to me.
Also, mapping micro-protected areas on a rocky shore seems to be of
limited value to me and puts a big burden on anyone who wants to verify
that.
But I'd like to hear others chiming in.
(This particular mapper conflict has
than "is a building"). Is that even possible, or would
it quickly be deleted in wikidata as not making sense on its own?
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e the lawnmower over the database and assume that
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se you have used text formatting to distinguish - e.g. bold, or
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he blocker, and if it is, then maybe the issue is not so important.
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plain text" comes at a price.
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nctionality with decent preview and
> formatting but at the same time comes with a kind of version management
> and functions to facilitate editorial review and discussion.
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On 12.09.19 09:29, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> "Come for a serious bushwalk or a casual jog, visit a lookout in the
> winter for whale watching off the coast, or break out the binoculars for
> birdwatching. There are cycling opportunities on fire trails and plenty
> of ch
surance given by
the mapper to others that "it is ok and legal to walk here", based
perhaps not on signage but on local rules and customs.
I would not use foot=yes for "well there is a path here and I've walked
along it but I'm not sure what would have happened had I met a ranger&qu
with the concept of "default rules" - for
example, if "everyone knows that horse riding is only permitted on
explicitly signed trails" in Conservation Lands then do we apply a
blanket horse=no to everything else, or not...
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o use or not... should
*all* the trails drawn in the area be marked access=no? Should we ask
the adminstration for a list?
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why DWG got involved in the first place.
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gt; keinerlei Schilder die Durchfahrt beschränken.
Idee: Einfach bei der Gemeinde anfragen, ob Du denn jetzt von der
anderen Seite aus durchfahren darfst. Schwupps stellen sie ein zweites
Schild in und as Problem ist erledigt ;)
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ial to all sides
if one is aware of exactly where the parties have the same goals, and
where the goals might differ, and establish clear rules for these cases.
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Hi,
On 8/30/19 3:16 PM, Dave F via talk wrote:
> Can they close their own notes?
They never could. Being anonymous, there was no way to verify that the
user wanting to close something was also the user who created it in the
first place.
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formation, we will be able
> to close nearly all anonymous notes.
This probably varies from region to region; I've seen many anonymous
notes that did contain some useful information.
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to fight a vandal creating new, useless notes (by just
closing them) than it is to clean up their droppings from existing notes.
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l auch einen Schadensersatzanspruch gegen diesen
Mapper haben. Aber so weit muss es erstmal kommen, und vorallem müsste
man dem Mapper erstmal nachweisen, dass er das ganze mit dieser Absicht
gemacht hat.
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extra mit einer Markierung versehen werden.
Ich habe versucht, alle Bäume mit
height (Höhe)
species (was für'n Baum)
diameter_crown (Durchmesser Baumkrone)
circumference (Stammumfang)
zu taggen, aber das ist natürlich ne Menge Arbeit.
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Import gutheisst oder nicht.
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eine
"praktische Verteilplattform für anderer Leute Daten".
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ie-contributed stuff takes approximately as many person-hours as
contributing the stuff in the first place. How will you ensure that you
do not generate more contributions than you can ensure the quality for?
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o OSM by giving us money,
or writing code, or organising meetups, is not part of the group that
holds the rights in the map.
I would find a simple "(c) OpenStreetMap" better, more snappy, more
recognizable than if we demand that the "contributors" are mentioned.
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) Geburtstagstorte und später Pizza sponsored by
FOSSGIS e.V.
Wer nicht den ganzen Tag Zeit hat, ist gern auch spontan nur zum Sekt am
Vormittag oder nur zu Kaffee+Kuchen/Pizza am Nachmittag willkommen.
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PS: Das Büro hat inzwischen auch eine Klimaanlage ;)
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uld not mind their answers being published
> anonymously.
So essentially all you want is a fourth option in the initial
"Permission" question that is called
"Publicly, anonymized" ?
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you don't want it then you
can *still* post your opinion on a mailing list or forum or your user
diary, where you can speak directly without being interpreted by an
intermediary - or even post your survey responses publicly like you did.
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?
The board has neither discussed this nor taken any further steps. I
don't know if any working group has.
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mmern betreffen" oder so). Der Revert war ja recht großzügig,
vorallem halt, weil er die gleichen Accounts für Importe/mechanische
Edits und für "normale" Edits genutzt hat.
Den beleidigenden Kommentar habe ich entfernt.
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weren't crassly over-sold to
the press. I think that we are allowing corporate interests to take over
the soul of OpenStreetMap, wring it dry, and spit it out in a couple of
years when they find something else to play with.
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Hi,
On 25.07.19 22:03, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> This press release is on the same level as "Cloudmade's
> OpenStreetMap Project" so many years ago.
In case anyone doubts that -
https://www.digitalinformationworld.com/2019/07/facebook-ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-aroun
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