Hi Mark
Although not anywhere conclusive I made a Mapillary capture outbound on
Woore Street Wilcannia 5/2022 that shows what are likely to be the dual
50/100 transition signs (smudges) well before the changeset. Might be
useful..
Bob
On 19/2/24 20:19, Mark Pulley wrote:
I haven’t done any
Correct!
On 15/12/23 12:49, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
Bob
So the western bridge is now northbound & the "middle" bridge is south?
Thanks
Graeme
On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 at 08:06, Bob Cameron wrote:
Wonder if someone might fix this one. Don't want to stuff it
Wonder if someone might fix this one. Don't want to stuff it up
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=17/-34.86388/150.60252
The main crossing over the Shoalhaven River on Princes Hwy
The eastern/old span is no longer in use and gated at the northern end.
Both "new" spans are in use one way
Hi Nev
The Mapillary imagery at the eastern end at Carnarvon Hwy;
https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/bob3bob3?lat=-27.124729889167=149.06543468617=17%5B%5D=bob3bob3=2018-12-01=894202007803486=photo=0.7498372203522408=0.5576487643887181=2.5378590078328984
that are data complete.
Cheers
On 17/10/23 18:04, Andrew Davidson wrote:
On 17/10/23 04:58, Bob Cameron wrote:> Ways only? Because the output
data/list format is different. Nodes
are arranged by objects per co-ordinate, whereas ways are by an ID
that includes a nodes list, with a separate
On 16/10/23 20:55, Warin wrote:
No expert ...
Question: why only get the node when you can have the whole thing? I
think that just adds complexity?
Ways only? Because the output data/list format is different. Nodes are
arranged by objects per co-ordinate, whereas ways are by an ID that
A question for an overpass expert.
I am cleaning up a lot of the parking tags I have created so they follow
the same rules etc. I have successfully generated a text list of nodes
where I can cut/paste the co-ords into the ID editor to research/fix as
needed. This was done with a gpsbabel
A lady served me a burger and coffee at Windorah Roadhouse. I think I
remember the supermarket also had some limited fast food. I had a sit
down feed at the pub in a prior visit.
Was eaten alive by mozzies at Stonehenge (Qld) pub. The visitors centre
there (also a RTC and small supermarket)
suits most? (This having been
mentioned in prior posts)
Bob
On 1/10/23 17:02, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
Good to hear from you, Bob.
As somebody who spends a lot of time out in remote places, what's your
thoughts on the concept?
Thanks
Graeme
On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 15:45, Bob Cameron wrote:
I managed (to buy) a coffee in Windorah two years ago.. That has to
count for something..
They have spent a lot on the campsite too. Newish amenities and hot
showers for $5/n in 5/21.
Cheers Bob
On 1/10/23 10:31, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
Oh look - Windorah is there, so it must be
Just a thought Salim
You might like to add street imagery and GPS tracks based on that as an
extra data source. This has a date stamp that much of the overhead
imagery does not.
Cheers Bob
On 17/3/23 02:55, Salim Baidoun wrote:
Hello Australia community,
We are releasing a challenge
Some Mapillary "data rich" slow vehicle locations. (ie for
checking/testing sign recognition)
- Dorrigo mountain - Waterfall Way. (Just west/north of Thora) NSW
- Bendemeer to Moonbi - New England Hwy NSW
- Black Mountain south - New England Hwy NSW
On 22/1/23 15:01, Andrew Harvey wrote:
Dian?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Sources
Just noticed that some of the Main Roads links for WA are coming up 404.
eg Speed Limits, Speed Zones, Control of Access & Road Stopping Places.
Some still work. I did not check them all.
I get the impression that searching
I wonder if someone with better knowledge on primary etc
routes/relations/sources might tackle this.
Was in Warialda NSW recently and noted that the HGV bypass barrier (east
of town) near the washdown facility has been removed, but didn't think
to check the formal route from there north. I
Hi Y'all. (So lived in Texas in a past life..)
Possibly also worth noting
- Many a rural/remote site has an ill defined block boundary. Some are
tucked in corners of rec reserves and some are even on private land.
(which affects road access tags)
- Naming (on signs etc) may be problematic.
I likely have this wrong, but worth a question.
Looking at petrolspy.com.au website for Theodore Qld and note that the
sport and rec ground shows a remarkable similarity to the
changes/updates I did 10 months ago, right down to the service road loop
around the RV dump. In addition the
I'd like to see some ford node vs way and culvert detail Dian. Took me a
while to understand it all, so may help a newbie.
eg a section of road (as a ford way - often concrete) has to be joined
to the crossing stream. If there is a "low water level" pipe/culvert
that is an additional tunnel.
The Gregory River Doomadgee Road crossing near Tirranna Springs Qld has
a "not on foot" warning sign as the water over the causeway runs very
fast. Hard to know if it's a legal direction though.
On 10/8/22 20:58, Adam Steer wrote:
A little note to the discussion - the foot/ animal traffic
One of the cross checks I do is to use a bidirectional Mapillary track
layer. I'd suggest fairly good for road centering in open places (ie no
phase delay GPS reflections). No good for non covered cross street
positioning of course.
Bob
On 23/6/22 11:45, Alex Sims wrote:
Hi,
I’ve now got
lso
adding capacity:hgv based on a drive in/out 20x4m block.
I also add the presence (or not) of a rubbish bin!
What makes a park formal being signage or obvious ground/area works. The
distinction is sometimes a bit grey.
Will be a one by one fix of my past efforts!
Cheers
On 20/4/22 18:32,
Hi Phil
Well they are all scattered plus/minus the road I travelled/captured on
in the last week or two.
Tnx
On 27/4/22 17:44, Phil Wyatt wrote:
Hi Bob,
I have changed all the South Australian locations for you. I checked a few
random locations and they all looked to be placed within a
So I'll ask some assistance from a mass edit guru here...
I'd like to change all my own landuse:farm nodes to place:farm, leaving
all child keys as they are. Since I only use ID is there anyone can help
do this? Does it require any kind of formal control?
Oh and I have found that DCS base
Remote areas and larger farms generally have been troubling me too
Graeme. I make no distinction about numbers of people, just a
landuse=farm node. (so I copied a very prolific mapper!) Recently I
noted that landuse:farm has been deprecated and to use landuse:farmland,
but that complains about
Only about regional areas, not urban
There are well used informal parks everywhere. Many used by trucks as
rest areas. Some are tiny, some are huge, some are gravel pits, some are
the NHVR green dot things.. Some councils even setup bins in them.
I'd like a way to tag any informal area. No
Good stuff Dian!
I don't know how widespread the problem is, but Garmin GPS navigation
devices see no road surface tag as sealed. This can create routing
stress for the driver and possibly safety issues. Might be worth
mentioning that it's far better to default tag new roads in non urban
Sorry I cant see where to add these points to the wiki, nor see the edit
evolution. No doubt I'll see some disagreements, but anyway!
- Regarding "No Camping" signs within the rest area category. (Although
it could apply to any location)
It seems a bit long winded and not really useful for
This might have been covered before..
What is the consensus on precedence of alt_names, more for roads and
waterways.
Example, I sometimes come across (NSW) creek name formal signs that are
quite different from what is shown on the DCS overlays. Is the primary
name the "on the ground" one
As I understand it the ACMA license database POI is waiting for a
waiver. A query of that will yield all repeater licenses, site locations
(lat/lon/elev etc) . I actually use it to populate my navigation GPS
The general rule for emergency use is to try all the lower half
repeaters
Keep in mind to also not run afoul with legislation. That might seem to
be about emergency use (UHF 5/35) or telemetry (UHF 22-23), but using
simplex on the input frequencies of UHF repeaters (31-38 & 71-78) that
one is within the operational range of is not allowed. Many contract
roadwork
Would you mind elaborating?
With the stream under a road (way) as tunnel and the default culvert;
The road over the top has either a node or way ford
Or
is the road/way flood_prone yes
Or
is the stream culvert section additionally ford yes
Tnx
On 23/2/22 19:08, Warin wrote:
Where these are
Finally got around to doing these changes. 10 ways were affected
The signs at Willow Tree and just out of Merriwa only say that there is
no access to the other town. I doesn't say where the actual closure is,
so I relied on my pre closure drive Mapillary imagery.
I vaguely remember that
Thanks for the feedback everyone.
- There are indeed numerous sources that say the road is closed, for
more than one year.
- To avoid routing yes I could pick a likely spot and make in Access:No
- Livetraffic also have a text view that is end points specific, so any
Google Maps issue are
MR358 or Coulsons Creek Road between Willow Tree and Merriwa NSW is
closed for repair of major slippage as it crosses the Liverpool Ranges.
"Livetraffic" (Traffic for NSW govt site) says not reopening until late
2023. A reference on that to a local govt site is devoid of any current
Note msg on their website
https://www.spatial.nsw.gov.au/
Basically anything DCS in the OSM ID map overlays died late Mon afternoon.
Also mentions holiday closure 27/12 to 10/1.
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Farm tracks too could be access=private.
While the well head can be a small area, the actual mining lease can
be large. The large area could be mapped with layer=-1,-2,-3,-4 or
-5. But what source are you going to use for the area?
My general workflow is more about driven road features
Would it be a fair statement to say that gas mining areas are all
private access?
eg. around Condamine Qld there are a lot of them that often co-exist
with farmland. Are the mining area leases "well area" only or cover a
wider area?
The concern is that with many service roads crossing
Thanks Andrew, looks excellent.
I did record 2 full GPX tracks for all streets. Would you like me to
send them to you at your gmail acct for a cross check?
I also covered the laneway and access to the railway station from the
Brolga Street side and Murana Road on the other. I have dashcam
Wow, what a changeset!
Bing was 2010-2012. The Maxar Premium seems the most recent.
Whatever the case with the buildings, the roads tend to be used as
anchors for many features. I guess the opinion I am looking for is that
if a formal source can't be found/used, will my GPS run tomorrow (plus
I am currently near this nice quiet place and am leaving shortly.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-26.6176/144.2666
I note that there is a fairly large discrepancy between some of the
roads and the public GPS traces. The main E-W highway is also split, but
not in OSM. Imagery and GPS
there is the quite loud high frequency
sound and no road shoulder at the barrier.
Since they are becoming more and more common I'd like to see the
consensus placed in the Aus taglines wiki
Cheers
On 1/8/21 5:32 pm, Warin wrote:
On 31/7/21 8:59 am, Bob Cameron wrote:
Info only
barrier=fence
sensory
Info only
barrier=fence
sensory=audible
ie the squeaking screeching fences that supposedly replace cattle grids.
I asked for input some months ago on how to map.
With the recent ID editor update there is now a warning that a fence has
to be a line, even though it is placed on the road.
Task Manager (ctrl-alt-del and select) will show process/ram hogs. sort
by cpu usage then memory, grab the process name and search on it...
4GB may be a little light too.. If your hard drive flogs (swaps) a lot
that may be worth a look.
G'luck!
On 28/7/21 3:22 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
Hi Andrew
Wonder if you might add the following to your later communications with
NHVR. Not pressing, just an inclusion.
As I understand it formal heavy vehicle rest area locations are more a
state database system. The "three green dot" informal rest areas however
were/are a NHVR
Thanks all for your comments;
- Yes I am aware of multipath phase errors, HDOP and VDOP problems etc.
My imagery camera also has excessive averaging and interpolation, so I
not only upload its trace but also that from a separate roof mounted GPS
sender unit.
- Re old traces. I can "cheat" a
Just checking if this is an okay thing to do. ie moving a major road so
it is centred on GPS traces - assuming there enough data for accuracy
(eg bidirectional, multi trace etc)
The traces are probably more accurate than overhead imagery.
Other features placed relative to roads will also need
Woops
Sent the last rather than just saving the draft Pls ignore
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Hi Graeme
Admitting ashamedly that I like nothing better than my OSM mkgmap Garmin
GPS device come up with any overnight viable stopping place nearby..
This of course makes me biased, so I apologise for that...
On 22/4/21 11:05 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 18:46, Bob
I wanted to ask for ideas and discussion related to tourism:camp_site.
Noting that there is also a wiki on this;
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site
Some general things. (Much from my own experience)
- Do we need to be extensive in our data detail given that there are
it was horribly expensive, but one station owner had
recouped his expense (sheep not attacked) after about 18 months. The
audible/screamers sections on roads were very low cost in comparison.
Cheers
On 19/4/21 4:05 pm, Bob Cameron wrote:
Opinions/ideas please
On a substantial number of roads I
Ian/all
I have been boldly marking paved and no-tag as asphalt,
causeways/fords/bridges as concrete (etc) as a result of examining my
own Mapillary imagery, sometimes dovetailing that with the DCS data.
These are not only regional highways, but backroads and most of small
towns.
I actually
I don't know sorry. Given that it is located in a large pasture rural
area I would expect that it would never be enforced. Farm workers will
drive by the easiest route.
As I understand it when a rural road is closed it is often handed back
to the owner of the surrounding or adjacent land,
I don't do a lot of mapping, so thought I'd better check.
Where a road has been closed by a barrier, but people have driven around
it, making their own road.
Example - Far left of this frame, intersection of Eyre Highway and
(unsealed) Cows Head Corner Rd, SA - south side of Eyre.
For interest Ian. I am in that council area right now doing Mapillary
stuff as I travel. Heading roughly from Daysdale to Jerilderie via
Oakland on Monday if you'd like me to check anything! The current
imagery wont be uploaded for a month or so.
Bob
On 2/10/20 2:43 pm, Little Maps wrote:
This is just a being inquisitive question.
Today I marked paved (was unpaved) route from Laggan to Taralga NSW
after I drove it. I note that the underlying map (LPI?) actually showed
the sections paved.
Am I correct in assuming that there as a first pass project that marked
paved roads from
:52 AM, Bob Cameron wrote:
Hi
The tagging guidelines don't quite seem to over this. I'd like to do it
correctly.
When a road is unpaved we use the surface=unpaved tag, the default (no
tag) being paved.
When an unpaved road is (roadwork) paved, should the tag be deleted or
changed to paved?
Thanks
Hi
The tagging guidelines don't quite seem to over this. I'd like to do it
correctly.
When a road is unpaved we use the surface=unpaved tag, the default (no
tag) being paved.
When an unpaved road is (roadwork) paved, should the tag be deleted or
changed to paved?
Thanks
I don't know how useful/relevant this will be, but I am about 3 weeks
from starting an upload of around 1.3TB Mapillary layer dashcam images.
(4K size, at around 2FPS road speed) These are mainly sealed country
roads (not a lot of urban data) around the continent.
Where a town/village is
Hi Phil
My old 1280x720 was setup for a rear quarter view for traffic sign
capture. I was advised that the angle and shutter raster delay (slant)
made detection problematic so I don't upload. I will however give it a
try at 90 degrees. It's a USB webcam
On 8/5/19 9:44 am, Phil Wyatt wrote:
Thanks Andrew
I capture at 2fps with a BlackVue (via 30fps mp4). That was
unfortunately a hard choice to do with the cost of the Internet
connection. 5fps would have been nicer. Road name signs are then
problematic not only from the framerate perspective, but that
compression artefacts glug
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