Re: [OSM-talk] outaage 18/02 umap.openstreetmap.fr

Thank you Marc, and thank you for all that you, and your fellow underappreciated 'techies', do to keep the wheels turning! Spike On 21/02/2023 07:52, Marc_marc wrote: Pre-failure data has been restored Le 19.02.23 à 21:07, Marc_marc a écrit : Hello, yesterday a server of the cluster

Re: [Talk-GB] New Bing Imagery

I contribute a bit to the development of iD and have interacted with the current lead developer (who's currently not funded to work on it full time anymore) as well as the previous (who's moved on to RapiD) numerous times. As it's open source software my suggestion would be to interface using the

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

The changeset comment seems backwards to me, foot=designated is more specific than foot=yes (which would be the default for any mapped footpath). On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:12 PM Colin Smale wrote: > What does "legally accessible" mean? Are they Public Footpaths? Do we tag > all Public Footpaths

Re: [Talk-GB] Farmfoods clean up

Have you considered trying to contact farmfoods themselves to ask for permission to use their data? Something I've pondered in the past for branded locations as it would allow us to get full coverage importing all the locations at once. Think the hardest part would be getting a line of contact to

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

Hey, I think this seems like a well planned and researched proposal. Personally would be happy to see such an import - especially since you've already got buy-in from the council. Only really have two questions: - Has the accuracy of the council data been evaluated at all? I'm personally of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

I support and appreciate the initiative and motivation for reducing single use plastic water bottles, but I'm not convinced mapping this data is such a priority for a quarterly project right now. Unsure if it differs across the UK, but I know here in Scotland I could pretty quickly find somewhere

Re: [Talk-GB] Cheers Drive, Bristol

I once watched a conference presentation on the in-house software Google use to update their map data (forget where I came across this). While they didn't reveal full information on it, a large part of their workflow is semi-automated and mostly comes down to humans reviewing and intervening in

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

While there is no formally approved proposal for tagging highway areas, I'd direct you towards `area:highway` ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:area:highway) Definitely don't rely on the standard map to drive tagging practise, rendering decisions for the standard map are made based on tag

Re: [Talk-GB] Laura Ashley - looking for tagging consensus

there are a couple of Laura Ashley branded hotels and some tea > rooms mentioned on the website > <https://www.lauraashley.com/en-gb/ukc/hotels-and-tea-rooms/ha100hosp>. > > Jerry > > On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 00:52, Silent Spike > wrote: > >> I'm a UK based mai

Re: [Talk-GB] Disused or empty apartments prior to demolition

The `building` tag actually specifies the original purpose or form of the building - it just happens that this usually aligns with the current use. As such, I think it's fine to leave them tagged as `building=apartments`. See: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:use. Interestingly

Re: [Talk-GB] The Range - looking for tagging consensus

So I think what I'll do for now is go ahead and add this under `shop=houseware` since both replies here are in favour of that. If in future consensus changes (and adding this into the index is likely to bring any disagreement that hasn't been raised here to the surface) then tagging can always be

Re: [Talk-GB] The Range - looking for tagging consensus

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 12:08 PM SK53 wrote: > So I'd favour the remaining candidates & I think housewares or homewares > is probably a better fit. > The issue with houseware, if we're going by the wiki ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dhouseware), is that it also seems overly

Re: [Talk-GB] Name Suggestion Index

I'm a (UK based) maintainer of the NSI repository and can push changes directly to it. I haven't been as active lately, but previously was working my way through UK brands. "The Range" is one I've looked at previously but never figured out the most appropriate tagging which is why it still isn't

Re: [Talk-GB] Zebra crossings being lost in iD - how to respond

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 1:26 PM Silent Spike wrote: > The crossing=marked/unmarked tagging is inspired from a proposal I > believe, because there is ambiguity to the controlled/uncontrolled tagging > whereas there's an explicit obvious answer as to whether a crossing has &

Re: [Talk-GB] Zebra crossings being lost in iD - how to respond

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 12:57 PM Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) < robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It would also be really good if we could get the standard UK crossing > types (zebra, pelican, toucan, pegasus) added to the iD presets to > help UK editors add that information. Currently

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

It's unclear to me if there's a consensus on the tagging here. Personally I like the `disused:` prefix. I couldn't see if it was mentioned anywhere, but we can also query for all the locations explicitly marked as part of the Thomas Cook brand using the `brand:wikidata` tag:

Re: [Talk-GB] Next quarters project will be fixmes and notes

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 3:38 PM Peter Neale wrote: > Thank you for trying to help me, but I am still confused (I'm getting used > to that feeling!) > > Clearly I am missing something?? > In your second screenshot, on the right hand toolbar, the icon ("Map Data") underneath the "Background

Re: [Talk-GB] Next quarters project will be fixmes and notes

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 2:40 PM Peter Neale via Talk-GB < talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Could this be changed to make all open Notes appear in the iD Edit > window? How could I request it? > There is an option to show notes under the data panel in the iD editor

Re: [Talk-GB] Georeferencing / zeroing imagery

Take my answers with a grain of salt. I'm no expert, but these are from my experience and current understanding. On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 3:58 PM Edward Bainton wrote: > A few questions: > - Over how wide an area does an offset obtained that way hold good? > This varies, areas with large

Re: [Talk-GB] Fixing shop=yes, now it no longer renders on the default OSM map

On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 2:21 PM Jez Nicholson wrote: > I don't know (yet) how iD generates its list of shop types. This may be > hard-coded and/or pre-generated from the NSI. > I can shed some light on this. The "type" field (drop down list) on the generic "shop" preset is generated from

Re: [Talk-GB] Alignment at Point of Sleat

Perfect thanks, I figured there was some imagery distortion relating to the elevation difference along the coastline. Good to know about the OS Streetview layer, I've never been sure how trustworthy its positioning is until now. Cheers ___ Talk-GB

[Talk-GB] Alignment at Point of Sleat

Was recently at the Point of Sleat (Isle of Skye) and as part of the Q3 project was going to add the solar panels there (https://imgur.com/a/VAE5A0L) into OSM. When I check out the area ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/57.01809/-6.01793) I notice I can also add some detail with the

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits

I've seen a suggestion somewhere to contact amazon about the possibility of running street imagery cameras. Would be a great way to get many local details available for so-called armchair mappers. On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:14 PM Dave F via Talk-GB < talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > It would

Re: [Talk-GB] Gates open/closed by default

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 6:38 PM Martin Wynne wrote: > Sometimes deciding what is and isn't a gate is tricky. Is this a gate? > To me that's very clearly a gate 路‍♂️ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN/Lancashire import

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:08 PM Silent Spike wrote: > It might be worth mentioning handling for stops present in NaPTAN which no > longer exist. > To clarify, I mean stops marked as active which are no longer physically there (implying the NaPTAN record is

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN/Lancashire import

No objections from me obviously! I like that you included handling for records marked as deleted in NaPTAN. Not something I considered until it was brought up after my import. It might be worth mentioning handling for stops present in NaPTAN which no longer exist. I've been following the

Re: [Talk-GB] Gates open/closed by default

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 1:15 PM Martin Wynne wrote: > The tag is *barrier*=gate. > > A permanently open gate isn't a barrier, so I don't think it should be > tagged as such. At least not across a way. > It's a common mistake to interpret keys to match their corresponding word definitions. The

[Talk-GB] NaPTAN Aberdeen Import Completion

Just an update to say the import has been completed. I wrote a diary entry to share some insight ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheEditor101/diary/390283), but no doubt forgot to mention something so feel free to ask me anything. Now it's time for me to start confirming stop details and

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 8:04 AM Silent Spike wrote: > Using the following established tags: > After all discussion so far I would update the list of tags to import as follows: - `highway=bus_stop` - `public_transport=platform` - `bus=yes` - `name` [Imported - defer to ex

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 1:41 PM Andy Townsend wrote: > The most interesting bit would be the "Manually conflate and review the > data before upload using JOSM" - any JOSM CSS style that you end up using > to highlight duplicates would be really useful, as would a basic OSM diary > entry

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 1:33 PM Stuart Reynolds < stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk> wrote: > what did you have in mind? To the end-user of the data (i.e. someone > wanting to know about where to catch the bus) this is absolutely critical. > > For example, in my previous post I face a suggestion of

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 1:02 PM Gareth L wrote: > Forgive me if this is silly question/statement, but the adj/alt names etc > are in the naptan dataset. Wouldn’t it be better to have the link made > between the stop in OSM and the record in naptan (using the codes prior > mentioned). > My

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:35 AM Stuart Reynolds < stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk> wrote: > -snip- > > Hope that helps. > Pretty much the perfect response, thank you! Good point about alternate names, will add support for those to my script now (maybe unnecessary for my area, but I'd like to

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:52 AM Stuart Reynolds < stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk> wrote: > Yes, both are still in use > > -snip- > > Regards, > Stuart Reynolds > for traveline south east and anglia > As someone more in the know, are there any fields of the NaPTAN data which you think should be

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:17 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > I reformatted > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:naptan:AtcoCode > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:naptan:NaptanCode > (added templates making them machine readable, descriptions will appear > for example at Taginfo) >

[Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

Since the other thread has become a tagging discussion on the pros and cons of PTv2, let's try this again. Would there be any objections to an import of the following scope: 1. Import data specifically for the Aberdeen admin area (ATCO code 639) 2. Import stops of type BCT ("On-street Bus

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data

This is getting a little bit off topic. I guess to bring things back on track, would there be any objections to an import along these lines: 1. Import data specifically for the Aberdeen admin area (ATCO code 639) 2. Import stops of type BCT ("On-street Bus / Coach / Trolley Stop.") 3.

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 4:40 PM Martin Wynne wrote: > In rural areas there are many places where buses are timetabled to stop > but where there is nothing physical -- no signpost or shelter. > > Are these highway=bus_stop in OSM? > > The wiki for highway says "Can be mapped more rigorously using

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 4:10 PM Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: > > Please, please don't use public_transport=platform unless you're > actually mapping an actual, physical, raised object, similar to railway > platforms. > > It has now been regressed one stage further, being superfluously added > to

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:07 AM Ed Loach wrote: > highway=bus_stop > public_transport=platform > source=naptan > naptan:verified=no > name=(NaPTAN name) > naptan:AtcoCode=(whatever) > naptan:NaptanCode=(whatever) > > If the bus stop type is not MKD I add > > naptan:BusStopType=(bus stop type) >

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:00 AM David Woolley wrote: > In may experience, a lot of the original NaPTAN imports have decayed: > > - people have double mapped stops and the the NaPTAN one has been deleted; > > - stop have moved and got double mapped and deleted as a result; > > - stops have been

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:15 PM Tony Shield wrote: > Hi Spike > > I'm interested in importing my local area - Chorley, Lancashire. > > I've filtered the Naptan file to get Chorley csv file. I've then imported > into JOSM conflation plug-in. I'm starting to understand how the conflatio

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data

@travelinesoutheast.org.uk> wrote: > Hi Spike, > > There are two aspects to your question. The first is around mechanical > edits (i.e. importing NaPTAN), and I’ll defer to the group for that because > while I would like to use NaPTAN (matained, mostly) to update OSM (not >

[Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data

Hey folks, I'm interested in importing NaPTAN bus stop data ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Import) specifically for my area of the UK (Aberdeen). As far as I can tell, some progress was made previously on importing NaPTAN data for specific areas of the UK. However, the process for

Re: [Talk-GB] London venues

Not sure that this got noticed, The London Hackspace can provide a classroom for 30+ people for just a donation to their coffers. It is in Wembley so not quite central but not the ends of the earth. Spike On 14/03/2019 09:51, Spike wrote: The London Hackspace (in Wembley) has a classroom

Re: [Talk-GB] London venues

The London Hackspace (in Wembley) has a classroom that seats 30 with ease >> https://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Classroom If interested I am a member and could host and facilitate the event. My next-door neighbour works at Google - I could ask him for a contact there? Spike On

Re: [Talk-GB] DoBIH Update - Permission Received

Yes I think we could establish which entries are suitable for use (i.e. those with an entry in the "survey" field of the database) and note this guideline on the wiki under third party data here . Perhaps introduce a

[Talk-GB] DoBIH Update - Permission Received

Starting a new thread as I noticed the old one is somehow entangled with the M1 Junction thread on the archive (see "Database of British and Irish Hills"). I have a signed copy of the CC BY 3.0 permission document, received from Chris Crocker who handles copyright and licensing issues on behalf

Re: [Talk-GB] Database of British and Irish hills

lly I am too > busy maintaining the DoBIH to do so myself! I probably speak for the other > editors too. I believe one of our users, who goes under the name of > Talkytoaster > on your forum, has contributed to OSM for many years. > Regards On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 11:28 AM Andy Tow

Re: [Talk-GB] Database of British and Irish hills

On further thought I'll just go ahead and do it with my real email. Will share the response here if/when it comes. On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 11:31 PM Silent Spike wrote: > I recently came across the DoBIH > <http://www.hills-database.co.uk/downloads.html> which you can see is > li

[Talk-GB] Database of British and Irish hills

I recently came across the DoBIH which you can see is licensed under CC BY 3.0. This could be a valuable source of accurate height and position information for "natural = peak" nodes in the UK + Ireland (maybe even an import candidate). Would

[Talk-GB] Mapping Driving Test Centres

Searching the wiki I can't find anything that feels right for mapping driving test centres. If anyone has mapped these in the past I'd be curious to know how you tagged them (both practical and theory test centres). Also curious as to how they've been named (if at all) as the DVSA just refers to

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering Problems

I've noticed my edits yesterday are not yet rendered (usually almost instant). Presumably just a temporary slowdown due to heavy load or something. On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 10:31 AM Gareth L wrote: > I’ve noticed. A bunch of edits around Rugby (by you, I think?) are only > being rendered on

Re: [Talk-GB] Leicester A

In case you did not know Jerry, Gerv passed away in July 2018 >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gervase_Markham_(programmer) Best regards Spike On 30/12/2018 12:26, SK53 wrote: Eventually I finally had time after a meeting in Leicester to go and have a look at this. It's been on my

Re: [Talk-GB] Spam GPS traces

Ah thank you, that explains it! Although I couldn't find any previous talk on the matter, but did find the relevant potlatch commit diff

[Talk-GB] Spam GPS traces

Hi folks, I'm editing this area ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/57.17591/-2.12320) in JOSM and the GPS data in the area contains some traces uploaded which look like spam (loads of horizontal lines which seem to form the shape of the river and other features). I'm unsure of the extent of

Re: [Talk-GB] Deletions and newbie editors

operation that has lost he NaPTAN tagging. Could I ask please the logic behind retaining references to a stop that does not exist? I have a local example of a stop that has not had a physical presence in living memory but STILL shows on bus company maps. Spike

Re: [Talk-GB] Surrey

Hi! I actually live in Weybridge, so if there are any road names that need to be surveyed in person, I'm happy to help. Spike On 21/02/2012 16:02, Andrew wrote: I have a few questions about the situation in Surrey. Does anyone know the problem area well enough to replace the placenames

Re: [Talk-GB] Surrey

On 21/02/2012 23:03, Derick Rethans wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, Spike (Chris Foote) wrote: I actually live in Weybridge, so if there are any road names that need to be surveyed in person, I'm happy to help. Absolutely! There are many around here: http://osm.org/go/euuLAKjx and http://osm.org