On 2014-06-17 09:21, Marc Gemis wrote :
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:13 PM,
André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com
wrote:
If you use source=survey
2014-06 TEC 2014-04 in bus stops as I
Since I would prefer to keep things simple, or at least as simple as
possible, I'd prefer to work with one file.
To indicate that a stop is not in Openstreetmap yet, I tag it with odbl=new
when no stop with its ref is in the file I download from Overpass API.
This tag will be stripped
IN OPENSTREETMAP SURVEY MEANS: go out physically, see something with your
own eyes while standing next to it, add it to the DB.
The dictionary definition is not relevant.
Jo
2014-06-23 11:58 GMT+02:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com:
On 2014-06-17 09:21, Marc Gemis wrote :
On Mon,
I managed to get the script to the next 'level'. For lines for which all
stops are mapped, it's possible to create skeleton route relations for all
the variations.
See here for an example:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42418402/RoutesFor%20W%20BXL%20-%20Waterloo.osm
Give me a sign if you
Share-Alike doesn't make much sense for data. Agree we should ask TEC to
go for CC BY or CC 0.
Kind regards,
Pieter
On 2014-06-18 23:12, Jo wrote:
I posted on the imports list. This is the first answer I got:
Hi,
I'm sorry to bear bad news, but the sharealike aspect of CC-BY-SA
On 2014-06-18 23:12, Jo wrote :
I posted on the imports list. This is the first answer I got:
Hi,
I'm sorry to bear bad news, but the sharealike aspect of CC-BY-SA
4.0 means that you cannot import the data into OSM, since CC-BY-SA 4.0
data can be publicly adapted only under
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:13 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com
wrote:
If you use *source=survey 2014-06 TEC 2014-04* in bus stops as I
recommend, you will both comply with the source requirement and be sure to
find the indication that they contain your file's data and can be deleted
On 2014-06-17 00:07, Jo wrote :
Answers inline.
2014-06-16 23:13 GMT+02:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com
mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com:
On 2014-06-16 01:58, Jo wrote :
Hi,
The conversion is done. Municipality names are converted to lower
case, restoring the
On 2014-06-17 09:21, Marc Gemis wrote :
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:13 PM, André Pirard
a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
If you use *source=survey 2014-06 TEC 2014-04* in bus stops as I
recommend, you will both comply with the source requirement and be
From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Annotation
source = survey Track from GPS unit (usually GPX fomat) or other physical
survey; suggested addition - survey:date
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:survey:date=-MM-DD
so IMHO checking the position on aerial images is not
Hi,
Survey does mean explicitly that there was an actual survey (meaning,
going to each and every bus station to check if it is there!):
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Survey#How_to_use
Also make sure to check the import guidelines before importing anything:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
the source should a) contain some reference to TEC, b) any aerial image
you have used (probably Bing).
Exactly!
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I created a page to describe the import of TEC data. Can somebody have a
look at it before I send it to the imports mailing list?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/PT_TEC_Wallonie_BE_Import
I have to say I'm a bit pessimistic about getting it approved. I've been
lurking on the imports list for
Julien,
Peux-tu vérifier si je n'ai pas fais trop de bêtises en adaptant cette page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Mapping_resources/TEC
Jo
2014-04-25 8:26 GMT+02:00 Julien Fastré jul...@fastre.info:
Hi !
Good news ! (Alleluia :-) )
The TEC is publishing now
On 2014-06-17 20:15, Jo wrote :
I created a page to describe the import of TEC data. Can somebody have
a look at it before I send it to the imports mailing list?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/PT_TEC_Wallonie_BE_Import
I have to say I'm a bit pessimistic about getting it approved. I've
It's a lot of data and it's coming from an outside source, so yes it's an
import. No way to get around that by calling it anything different. It's
best to go through the proper channels. That way nobody can say we didn't
at least try to do things the right way.
If we fall flat on our noses, so be
Jo,
Isn't Andy Allan making the Transport Map?
You might try to get advice from him.
He would certainly be keen to have us on his map!
I once contacted him for a bike map trifle.
Took some time but he very kindly replied.
Whoever that is anyway.
Fingers crossed.
André.
On 2014-06-17 22:41, Jo wrote :
What I fail to see is why I'd need to contact him. It doesn't depend
on him at all whether the import is approved or not.
No but he probably knows much about how being approved and it's his
interest to help you
Anyway, the question is: Is that wiki page good
On 2014-06-16 01:58, Jo wrote :
Hi,
The conversion is done. Municipality names are converted to lower
case, restoring the accents. Route_ref is calculated.
Many thanks Jo!
A few remarks.
As there were as usual no replies on this list to my remarks about
missing bus line numbers and
Answers inline.
2014-06-16 23:13 GMT+02:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com:
On 2014-06-16 01:58, Jo wrote :
Hi,
The conversion is done. Municipality names are converted to lower case,
restoring the accents. Route_ref is calculated.
Many thanks Jo!
You're welcome
A few
Hi,
I'm conducting an offline TEC conversation business with Jo and I'm
impressed.
You will soon be able to confidently buy TEC tickets and use the OSM
transport map ;-)
I have just two tag remarks.
For the third time (Julien), if we want to use URLs, we'd better use URLs.
network=tec-wl.be is
Hi,
I announced that I had made an OSM file from which it is very easy
to copy with JOSM (EditMerge Selection) TEC bus stops to the OSM
map. I said that there were problems to discuss, principally
that the data contains no bus line numbers
that
Hi Andre,
I'm almost done converting the village names to proper capitalisation,
including accents. I also have a system set up to calculate route_ref. It's
slower than I would like, but it works. (Reading the data into postGIS that
is). Most of the work involved is stuff I had already done for
On 2014-05-13 16:57, Julien Fastré wrote :
We do agree with Champs Libres to install a WMS service with TEC
information (bus lines stops). I had a problem to do that: we do
have reached our quota of IPv4 addresses on our servers and we would
do it with IPv6-only (tunnels IPv4-Ipv6 with sixxs
Le 13/05/14 18:18, André Pirard a écrit :
On 2014-05-13 16:57, Julien Fastré wrote :
We do agree with Champs Libres to install a WMS service with TEC
information (bus lines stops). I had a problem to do that: we do
have reached our quota of IPv4 addresses on our servers and we would
do it
On 2014-04-25 08:26, Julien Fastré
wrote :
Hi !
Good news ! (Alleluia :-) )
The TEC is publishing now data under Open Data Licence !
On geoportail.wallonie.be, the data "Poteaux d'arrêts" (bus stop) and
"ligne de bus" (bus lines) are now under CC BY-SA 4.0
Hi,
Good news indeed.
I did a quick search on the format. It uses the BLTAC format (Belgium
Local Transport Automatic Connexion).If you open data you will get a
bunch of text files not very easy to understand.
Hopefully, they gave also the documentation of the BLTAC format[1] and I
found a csv
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