Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/18/2016 07:53 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Unfortunately the import was larger than expected and the revert drags > on. And it still does! I was going a bit slower today in order not to overload the API. Thank you everyone for letting the revert run its course without intervening furthe

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-20 Thread James
Are you done the revert yet? I got a message from: lesc "Hi, It looks like some changes in Kanata you did removed all the lines that represent buildings and only the corners are left as points. Thanks, Les" Seems like your reverting is messing up data a

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-19 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2016-10-19 02:31 AM, Denis Carriere wrote: > > *Quick survey: *Who is even opposed to a Building Import in Ottawa I'm opposed to the word “opposed”, as good imports done properly do add value to the map. But this import wasn't done right, so I can't support the method. More later. Stewart _

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-19 Thread Michael Reichert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Denis, hi Rps333, hi LogicalViolinist [3] Am 19.10.2016 um 08:31 schrieb Denis Carriere: > Ok this Ottawa reverting process is getting out of hand now! > Frederik (woodpeck_repair) is reverting entire user history without > looking at what his os

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-18 Thread Denis Carriere
Ok this Ottawa reverting process is getting out of hand now! Frederik (woodpeck_repair) is reverting entire user history without looking at what his osm-revert-script is doing. *Before & After of Revert - More info with photos* https://gist.github.com/DenisCarriere/581b3dbc6adf36608f470702d0bcc38d

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-18 Thread john whelan
I think it has been mentioned that unfortunately a number of buildings in Ottawa that were deleted already have some of the attributes that Stats Canada are after. I think step one is hands off any mapping of buildings for the moment in Ottawa. That unfortunately includes Stats crowd sourcing ini

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/17/2016 11:59 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > The person responsible for cleaning up a poor revert should be the > person who ran it ;) it's only 30% complete and will run far into the > night in my time zone and I'll have to check on it after getting up. I'm > confident all will be fixed whe

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Denis, On 10/17/2016 11:43 PM, Denis Carriere wrote: > At least this will be fixed... can you please make sure that this revert > is at least finished properly without thousands of warnings. I don't > want to be cleaning up a poor revert for days. The person responsible for cleaning up a poor rev

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Denis Carriere
Thanks Michael, At least this will be fixed... can you please make sure that this revert is at least finished properly without thousands of warnings. I don't want to be cleaning up a poor revert for days. *~~* *Denis Carriere* *GIS Software & Systems Specialist* *Twitter: @DenisCarriere

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Pierre Béland
. Raccourci Ctrl-Maj-G (ou Menu Plus d'outils / Remplacer la géométrie) pour Remplacer la géométrie.    Pierre De : James À : Stewart C. Russell Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Envoyé le : lundi 17 octobre 2016 17h07 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings &

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Michael Reichert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Denis, Am 17.10.2016 um 23:22 schrieb Denis Carriere: > *(Frederik Ramm) *just did a mass revert [0] with his revert script > [1] created in 2009 and now we have 20,000+ warnings of empty nodes > within a small section of Ottawa [2]. > > Not onl

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread James
You'd think someone working on the DWG would know how to revert a changeset properly. This is even worse than when there were a few duplicated addresses. On Oct 17, 2016 5:23 PM, "Denis Carriere" wrote: > Ok now things are even worse! > > *(Frederik Ramm) *just did a mass revert [0] with his rev

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Denis Carriere
Ok now things are even worse! *(Frederik Ramm) *just did a mass revert [0] with his revert script [1] created in 2009 and now we have 20,000+ warnings of empty nodes within a small section of Ottawa [2]. Not only did *(Frederik Ramm) *undo James commits, but now you've introduced over 100,000+ wa

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread James
>From Rps333 in changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/42876740: This is part of the Stats Canada Open data project. And has been discussed on Talk:ca It has received OSM Ottawa community approval. OSM Ottawa has been planning on adding the build for 3 months now. We have a dedicated Tas

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2016-10-17 03:33 PM, James wrote: > Stewart, that's where you are wrong. Ottawa has supplied data(footprints > and address) to Stats Can to import into OSM for their project under the > Canada Open Gov License so there would be no issues with licensing. > > We are using that data. You have not

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread James
Stewart, that's where you are wrong. Ottawa has supplied data(footprints and address) to Stats Can to import into OSM for their project under the Canada Open Gov License so there would be no issues with licensing. We are using that data. On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Stewart C. Russell
Hi Frederik, > Which is why I'm reverting this import (and the deletions that went with > it) now. Not because we shouldn't ever import the data, but because I > don't want a fait accompli to stand in the way of a serious discussion > about the matter. There are a *lot* more import changesets by

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 17.10.2016 um 19:20 schrieb Michael Reichert: > I have asked a DWG member to block him to stop the ongoing import and > start a discussion. > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1065 The second user block (now for three hours): https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1066 reason:

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/17/2016 07:49 PM, AJ Ashton wrote: > All of this sounds like they were planning one something like an online > mapping party, not an import of government data. Certainly there is no > mention that all existing buildings in Ottawa would be wiped out first. Which is why I'm reverting this

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi James, Am 17.10.2016 um 19:37 schrieb James: > Like this one Kevin? > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2016-July/007034.html > > or this one? > https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ca@openstreetmap.org/msg07024.html > > or this one? > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/ta

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread AJ Ashton
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016, at 13:37, James wrote: > Like this one Kevin? > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2016-July/007034.html > or this one? > https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ca@openstreetmap.org/msg07024.html > > or this one? > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/20

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Yup, those ones James. Sorry, I'm in something right now so I can't Google. :P On Oct 17, 2016 1:37 PM, "James" wrote: > Like this one Kevin? > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2016-July/007034.html > > or this one? > https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ca@openstreetmap.org/msg070

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread James
Like this one Kevin? https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2016-July/007034.html or this one? https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ca@openstreetmap.org/msg07024.html or this one? https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2016-August/007151.html or this one? https://lists.openstr

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Afternoon, I'm not part of the import, but it's been discussed over the past several months as a project by Statistics Canada. You'll be able to see the discussions start in the summer. I'm on my phone right now so I haven't pulled up the archive to look for links (sorry). On Oct 17, 2016 1:22 PM

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi AJ, Am 17.10.2016 um 18:59 schrieb AJ Ashton: > I haven't seen any substantial discussion about the Ottawa buildings & > addresses import anywhere. I did see the thread a number of weeks back, > "Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada," but I didn't see > anything discussed that sounds

[Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread AJ Ashton
I haven't seen any substantial discussion about the Ottawa buildings & addresses import anywhere. I did see the thread a number of weeks back, "Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada," but I didn't see anything discussed that sounds like the planning of a mass import. The wiki page linked f