I agree with Andy about increasing the number of mappers is essential. With
Cycle map he has increased the interest in the cycling communities. Getting
interest and publicity is very difficult. I can see many other communities that
we could encourage to start helping us, from NHS to golfers but
Frederik,
I am subspecies from the universe P281/304-II. I am a bit like a wasp, often
referred to as a Yellow (High-Viz) Jacket. I annoy streets, post boxes,
garden fences and hedges and anything else I can find that is floating I the
ether and root it into OSM. I know nothing of imports except
Saw a new Onward Travel Poster at Oxford. Nice map. Presumably a
similar one at most other railway stations. Lots of detail, including
some footpaths that have a very familar shape...
Nice attribution. To OS.
I'll try emailing one Jason Durk, Head of Passenger Info at NRE...
Richard
Richard Fairhurst said:
The problem with these fast-moving mailing lists is that I get
halfway through a reply to Graham's e-mail, go to the pub..
My emails often have that effect :)
That raises the question of why on earth we're still using
cliquey semi-private email lists when we could be
Richard Mann wrote:
Saw a new Onward Travel Poster at Oxford. Nice map. Presumably
a similar one at most other railway stations. Lots of detail,
including some footpaths that have a very familar shape...
Nice attribution. To OS.
Yes. This is supposedly a national initiative, but I've only
On 10/06/11 10:04, Richard Mann wrote:
Saw a new Onward Travel Poster at Oxford. Nice map. Presumably a
similar one at most other railway stations. Lots of detail, including
some footpaths that have a very familar shape...
Nice attribution. To OS.
I'll try emailing one Jason Durk, Head of
Graham Stewart wrote:
So again you are basically arguing that we should avoid
completing the map because having a patchy incomplete map is
what brings in contributors?
No, I'm not.
I'm arguing that completing the map by survey creates a community who will
go on to improve and maintain the
Sorry in advance - after writing this I've realised I'm possibly heading off on
a tangent (I do that).
Speaking of the awesomeness of Cycle Map and how that encourages people - I
really want an openwalkingtothepubmap, which would basically be a clone of the
gorgeous cycle map, but with the
Peter (et al),
I think everyone agrees that the OSM Analysis Summary (
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/osm_analysis/main ) is extremely
useful for gauging our efforts and highlighting areas that need work -
even if there is clearly some disagreement about how we then use the OS
data on the
This morning my login credentials are being rejected, and I can't log in to
www.streetmap.org. And, when trying the forgot your password option, I'm
told my email address isn't recognized.
So, is there a problem, or is it just me?
Regards
Simon
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Though having re-read your post, the incorrect attribution is really bad. Don't
think my local one had that otherwise I'd have probably noticed but will check
next time I'm there.
Nick
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From: Nick Whitelegg/FT/Solent
On 10/06/11 10:49, Simon Blake wrote:
This morning my login credentials are being rejected, and I can't log in
to www.streetmap.org http://www.streetmap.org. And, when trying the
forgot your password option, I'm told my email address isn't recognized.
Well firstly that's not our domain ;-)
Graham Jones wrote:
setting up mapnik and all its dependencies is quite daunting
This week I've seen something that gives near-Mapnik quality rendering with,
hopefully, near-trivial installation, configuration and system demands. I
think one comment on IRC was zomg which succinctly sums it up.
Richard wrote:
It is being followed up with their suppliers, and will be
corrected...
I can imagine the little M stickers being printed now...
Ed
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Graham Stewart wrote:
I think everyone agrees that the OSM Analysis Summary (
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/osm_analysis/main ) is extremely
useful for gauging our efforts and highlighting areas that need work -
even if there is clearly some disagreement about how
I'm arguing that completing the map by survey creates a community who
will go on to improve and maintain the map.
This is no doubt true.
But surely having an area that has been *surveyed* to 100% road name
completion is just as likely to put off any new contributors as one that
was *traced*
Just to say that ITO have been working for some time now with a 3rd
party to create such onward travel posters for GB railway stations. We
provided them with the option to use either OSM or OS data for each
location at their discretion purely on merit. Clearly we are
disappointed that the wrong
On 08/06/11 07:58, Peter Miller wrote:
Warwickshire is the biggest gainer/looser with 33 new names; over half
of the districts have got at least one new road and there are now only
8 places still at 100%. We do have 51 at over 99% and only 32 at
under 50%. There is serious work in Wales,
Graham Stewart wrote:
This is no doubt true.
But surely having an area that has been *surveyed* to 100% road name
completion is just as likely to put off any new contributors as one that
was *traced* to 100%?
(i.e. not very in my opinion)
I don't think so. Again, the difference is that you're
On 10 June 2011 11:20, Chris Jones roller...@sucs.org wrote:
On 08/06/11 07:58, Peter Miller wrote:
Warwickshire is the biggest gainer/looser with 33 new names; over half
of the districts have got at least one new road and there are now only
8 places still at 100%. We do have 51 at over 99%
I am pretty sure it already does that. See Back Crossflats Place at
Yep, so I'd like to see that kind of mismatch (where OS Locator says
there is a street called Back Crossflats Place and OSM doesn't have
any way of any name at that location) presented in a separate list or
perhaps in a
Ed Loach wrote:
I can imagine the little M stickers being printed now...
For those curious as to what these maps look like, here's one I photographed
last week:
http://www.systemeD.net/temp/onward_travel_falmouth.jpg
(4.6Mb file)
Compare and contrast with http://osm.org/go/erU5Lvdkm- .
On 10 June 2011 11:30, Graham Stewart gra...@dalmuti.net wrote:
I am pretty sure it already does that. See Back Crossflats Place at
Yep, so I'd like to see that kind of mismatch (where OS Locator says
there is a street called Back Crossflats Place and OSM doesn't have
any way of any name at
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Graham Stewart wrote:
End users of the map are much more likely to be put off by missing roads
than missing road names.
That is something I agree with. And it's also a lot easier to get
somebody to add a name, or go through the trouble of adding a whole new
complicated
For those curious as to what these maps look like, here's one I photographed
last week:
http://www.systemeD.net/temp/onward_travel_falmouth.jpg
(4.6Mb file)
Thanks, I was curious. I was tempted to stroll to the station at lunch
to find my local one, but it is raining now :(
The rather
On 10 June 2011 11:31, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Ed Loach wrote:
I can imagine the little M stickers being printed now...
For those curious as to what these maps look like, here's one I photographed
last week:
http://www.systemeD.net/temp/onward_travel_falmouth.jpg
Great shame. So - recruit some more mappers. Write better tools to help
the people who show up nearby on your user page, yet who haven't edited
yet.
You've got me there.
Of the 30 nearby people on my user page, 20 have never made any edit.
Only 3 have edited in the past 6 months and few of
In message 1307701901374-6461640.p...@n2.nabble.com
Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Ed Loach wrote:
I can imagine the little M stickers being printed now...
For those curious as to what these maps look like, here's one I photographed
last week:
Or as close to it as possible, yes. I don't care what the result is, it's just
too fashionable to automatically believe the imports are bad thing.
Steve
stevecoast.com
On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:05, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
On 06/09/11 18:01, SteveC wrote:
I know it's
There are tons of things. People drive in the US so pubs are difficult to
arrange things around. Mapping in the US is boring because of the big gridded
cities. I map much less in the US than the UK. It's not just that there are
roads there already, which by the way is a good thing because I
Peter J Stoner wrote:
Thank you for the photo. It is the first of the new posters I
have seen so it has helped me to check the Traveline and
NextBuses references!
:) They're good posters, I like them (though the cartography is a bit...
utilitarian, shall we say?).
This use of OSM shows
Kev js1982 osm@... writes:
The current tagging is
is_in:Gamston, West Bridgford
place:suburb
name:Knightshayes
landuse:residential
I would suggest removing place=suburb but leaving the name tag. Then it gets
a reasonably tasteful and low-key rendering in the both the OSM Mapnik tiles
and the
I'm sure that's still missing a few paths off Nevis, mind. (Gorgeous though)
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Richard Fairhurst
rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Peter J Stoner wrote:
Thank you for the photo. It is the first of the new posters I
have seen so it has helped me to check the Traveline
On 10 June 2011 12:50, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
On 10 June 2011 11:31, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Ed Loach wrote:
I can imagine the little M stickers being printed now...
For those curious as to what these maps look like, here's one I photographed
last
Richard Fairhurst richard@... writes:
Worcester is nominally complete; yet despite the assurances of
people in this thread that completeness will bring more mappers,
Worcester has just one mapper, Steve, who was active anyway before
OSSV came along.
I would not claim that completing one
In message 1307705780225-6461826.p...@n2.nabble.com
Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Peter J Stoner wrote:
Thank you for the photo. It is the first of the new posters I
have seen so it has helped me to check the Traveline and
NextBuses references!
:) They're good
Richard Fairhurst richard@... writes:
This is no doubt true.
But surely having an area that has been *surveyed* to 100% road name
completion is just as likely to put off any new contributors as one that
was *traced* to 100%?
I don't think so. Again, the difference is that you're reaching 100%
On 10/06/2011 13:17, Ed Avis wrote:
Richard Fairhurstrichard@... writes:
This is no doubt true.
But surely having an area that has been *surveyed* to 100% road name
completion is just as likely to put off any new contributors as one that
was *traced* to 100%?
...
I think we all agree that
Someone else wrote:
Grr. 100% road name completion has become in this thread 100%
completeness.
Which of course is completely different. Taking just one metric
(.osm file size), I extracted the highways from the current Tendring
district (road and name complete) .osm extract file I have
Ed Avis wrote:
But you are leaving out the third possibility which is an area stuck at
40% completion, which doesn't have a vibrant community either.
Oh, indeed. But if we were to put as much effort into marketing OSM and
improving our tools as we do into writing and indeed discussing bots,
Hi,
SteveC wrote:
Or as close to it as possible, yes. I don't care what the result is,
it's just too fashionable to automatically believe the imports are
bad thing.
Funny that you should use the word fashionable, as if to discount
those who say it as merely following a fashion instead of
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:51, Graham Stewart gra...@dalmuti.net wrote:
Great shame. So - recruit some more mappers. Write better tools to help
the people who show up nearby on your user page, yet who haven't edited
yet.
You've got me there.
Of the 30 nearby people on my user page, 20
Graham Stewart graham@... writes:
That raises the question of why on earth we're still using cliquey
semi-private email lists when we could be using nice open public forums with
categories, threaded discussions, formatting and voting - but that is a
discussion for another day. ;)
I use Gmane:
On 10/06/11 10:17, Graham Stewart wrote:
That raises the question of why on earth we're still using cliquey
semi-private email lists when we could be using nice open public forums
with categories, threaded discussions, formatting and voting - but that
is a discussion for another day. ;)
How
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:36 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
There are tons of things. People drive in the US so pubs are difficult to
arrange things around. Mapping in the US is boring because of the big gridded
cities. I map much less in the US than the UK. It's not just that there
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From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org]
Sent: 10 June 2011 3:39 PM
To: SteveC
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot
Hi,
SteveC wrote:
Or as close to it as possible, yes. I don't care what the result is,
it's
Nice work Matt
Cheers
Andy
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Sent: 10 June 2011 4:20 PM
To: SteveC
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org; Richard Fairhurst
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:36 PM, SteveC
Jerry Clough said:
Do you mean like this one:
[1]http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=5.
I was thinking more like the layout in nabble:
http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OpenStreetMap-f660402.html
which I discovered shortly after making that comment and goes
quite a way towards a
Hi,
Graham Stewart wrote:
I'm of the opinion that if you want to build a strong community then it
helps to gather everyone in the same place.
The segmentation is actually desirable; it is correct that the same
thing is discussed in several different groups but that's just the same
as with
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