Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 09:16, David Woolley wrote: There are ways of reversing changes exactly, but they are difficult to use if there have been ad hoc attempts to repair in the mean time, as you have to reverse those repairs first and you need to distinguish them from legitimate changes that happened

Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-28 Thread SomeoneElse
On 28/05/2015 20:12, Colin Smale wrote: Querying the history on the website just times out so I can't easily see when it went pear-shaped and how it used to be http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287245 http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=287245 shows recent changes to it

Re: [Talk-GB] ooops.... I destroyed a building...

2015-05-27 Thread SomeoneElse
On 27/05/2015 21:29, thomas van der veen wrote: Hi, I just did a quick update to a path in Newbury and goes through a tunnel in a building... but my edit seems to have destroyed the building and I am not sure how to get it back. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.40251/-1.32458 is the

Re: [Talk-GB] Coastline bleeding (again)

2015-05-19 Thread SomeoneElse
On 19/05/2015 12:13, Dave F. wrote: Hi For the past few weeks I've been getting random blue fill at high zoom levels. Is this caused by the coastline being broken again? When it happens, right-click the browser and "view image". You'll get a URL something like: http://c.tile.openstreetmap

Re: [Talk-GB] Issue with Changeset

2015-05-15 Thread SomeoneElse
On 15/05/2015 10:22, Jason Woollacott wrote: Looks like there has been an issue with changeset 30821940 Which seems to have added the A30 through the whole of Cornwall on an incorrect route. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30821940 Didn’t want to back this change out myself, as not su

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/05/2015 17:28, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Why not ref:highway_authority To keep the tags just a little bit organized? https://xkcd.com/927/ (sorry) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/05/2015 11:30, Andy Robinson wrote: Where I see these on C/U roads I change the ref= tag to highway_authority_ref= http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/highway_authority_ref 276 of those - that's one that I wasn't aware of! Cheers, Andy ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/05/2015 11:22, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Maybe the tag unsigned_ref is an outcome? 0 uses in the UK: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/unsigned_ref There are 86 "ref:signed=no" (mostly by me, so not a widely used tag) but that's where something demonstrably is the real referen

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/05/2015 09:52, Bob Kerr wrote: On residential roads where there has been a ref= added is being rendered on Mapnik. Is this something new since I have not been checking recently. This is all over the highlands https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/57.5695/-4.4282 I don't think that

Re: [Talk-GB] What was the outcome of the discussion about C class roads with ref tags?

2015-05-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/05/2015 11:10, Steve Doerr wrote: Personally, I quite like the fact that our map has C numbers on where other maps don't. What I don't like, though, is seeing U numbers for unclassified roads, which are cluttering up the map of my home area (http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.42292/0

Re: [Talk-GB] What was the outcome of the discussion about C class roads with ref tags?

2015-05-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/05/2015 10:50, Philip Barnes wrote: In this case if you have surveyed it and it is signed then it would be helpful if it was tagged as signed=yes, or something similar. SomeoneElse I think he has used similar tagging for unsigned A roads. FWIW I've used "name:signed=no"

Re: [Talk-GB] What was the outcome of the discussion about C class roads with ref tags?

2015-05-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/05/2015 08:35, Graham Jones wrote: I don't know where the discussion got to, but thought I should point out that at least one road in North Yorkshire is a C road that is signposted as such. The road here does have signs with the C designation. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/54.569

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK

2015-03-05 Thread SomeoneElse
On 05/03/2015 20:39, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I'm happy to import *JUST the six notes* if that's preferred, without any node Could you have a go at locating these notes a bit better than the previous reverted import (e.g. put the note for the one that says that is in the Swan Hotel in Stafford wi

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK

2015-03-05 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/03/2015 22:59, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Ok, last call for comments. Please note this is an ongoing import, so new nodes will show up from time to time under the same conditions. For the avoidance of doubt, I'd object to any import such as this on the basis of quality. As I said last time

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project - Fix tha Road Name

2015-02-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 06/02/2015 12:08, Brian Prangle wrote: ... So we thought that adding Notes about road names that need fixing on the standard OSM map, asking for confirmation of the correct name, might elicit some response via a comment indicating the correct name. I see that you and RobJN have added q

[Talk-GB] Unsigned road names (was "Fix the road name!")

2015-01-24 Thread SomeoneElse
Hijacking the thread somewhat, but something that I was wondering about recently... There are many roads that are signed, and we can add them to OSM. Great! There are some roads that are signed, and the sign differs from what the local authority thinks that a road is called (usually just commo

Re: [Talk-GB] Data search request: help please

2015-01-22 Thread SomeoneElse
On 22/01/2015 21:59, Andy Mabbett wrote: I need some help, please. I want to compile a list of all the pubs (including taverns bars, etc) in the UK, with the word "Louise" as part of the name. Do you mean in the UK, or in OSM in the UK? How might I do this, given that I am not a coder? My f

Re: [Talk-GB] Hanbury Meeting - Fauld Crater

2015-01-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 10/01/2015 17:09, Donald Noble wrote: I know that "tagging for the renderer" is not particularly helpful, however, might it be appropriate in this instance to map the significant slopes around the edges of the crater with man_made=embankment ? There are slopes there in reality, and they are

Re: [Talk-GB] Hanbury Meeting - Fauld Crater

2015-01-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 10/01/2015 08:34, Marc Gemis wrote: The German wiki on historic items [1] uses historic=bomb_crater. They are displayed on the geschichtskarte [2] (sorry I don't know an example). They also refer to taginfo [3]. But I don't know whether the one you are referring to has historic value Thank

[Talk-GB] Hanbury Meeting - Fauld Crater

2015-01-10 Thread SomeoneElse
Has anyone got a good suggestion for tagging the crater itself? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24384002 I removed the cemetery tag from it, because it isn't really. The crater's a separate physical feature from the military exclusion zone: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/321249552 Prev

Re: [Talk-GB] Hanbury Meeting

2015-01-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 03/01/2015 21:01, Philip Barnes wrote: Thank you Jerry for organising it, really enjoyed myself. Thanks from me also - and apologies to anyone now coming down with a cold that I unwittingly brought down from York the day before. I notice that some edits from trigpoint

Re: [Talk-GB] Post-Christmas Midlands OSM Meet-up

2014-12-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/12/2014 17:06, SK53 wrote: So I'd like to suggest everyone meets at the rendezvous, and that at least the first short walk is done as a group. Has anyone cleared parking at the pub? Some places can get sniffy about it (even if spending lots of money there later). There's also app

Re: [Talk-GB] Totesport

2014-12-21 Thread SomeoneElse
On 21/12/2014 12:02, Andrew Hain wrote: Betfred took over Totesport a few years ago but there are still tags name=Totesport, name=totesport or operator=Totesport in Ashford, Birmingham(2), London (2), Manchester (2), Northampton, Oxford, Rotherham and Wakefield. I'd be tempted to add OSM notes

Re: [Talk-GB] No more voting on mechanical edits

2014-12-19 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/12/2014 18:59, Rovastar wrote: Well please share the thoughts about what suggestions you have. The big problem is not really whether a particular shop has an apostrophe in the name or not, but the fact that we don't have anything like all of said shops mapped. I suggested that any pla

Re: [Talk-GB] No more voting on mechanical edits

2014-12-18 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/12/2014 18:14, Rovastar wrote: And Andy I am surprised at you quoting a wiki - I though you didn't believe in such crowd sourced projects. [citation needed] :-) I actually spent quite a bit of time last night trying to suggest ways to draft his proposals to "help scratch his itch" in a

Re: [Talk-GB] No more voting on mechanical edits

2014-12-18 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/12/2014 10:24, Dan S wrote: Hi Matthijs, The DWG email used the word "consensus" inappropriately, since consensus means everyone agreeing, and we didn't. However, consensus is essentially impossible in big wiki communities like ours, so let's assume there's a relative meaning of the term ;

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-3 Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-12-18 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/12/2014 10:48, Dan S wrote: 2014-12-18 10:39 GMT+00:00 SomeoneElse : On 18/12/2014 02:10, Matthijs Melissen wrote: If you oppose this proposal, or if you want to register particular areas or objects for an opt-out, please edit the wiki page under the section 'Oppositions and op

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-3 Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-12-18 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/12/2014 02:10, Matthijs Melissen wrote: If you oppose this proposal, or if you want to register particular areas or objects for an opt-out, please edit the wiki page under the section 'Oppositions and opt-out'. At the risk of restating the obvious, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mec

Re: [Talk-GB] Advice on footpaths - when should they be separate, when not?

2014-12-01 Thread SomeoneElse
On 01/12/2014 11:58, John Aldridge wrote: On 01/12/2014 11:39, Stuart Reynolds wrote: Looking for some advice in Bletchley, specifically, but to answer a more general point about footpaths. : So what is the guidance here? Ought the road have a distinct footpath both sides? Or not footpath, an

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData Layer down?

2014-11-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/11/2014 12:44, tony wroblewski wrote: Thanks Andy Yep, I guess it's hosted on "faffy", and it's currently down. It's actually a little more complicated than that I think. It _was_ hosted there, but that broke (hardware failure of some sort) during the last maintenance period). The ad

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData Layer down?

2014-11-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/11/2014 12:16, tony wroblewski wrote: Hi I've been unable to access the OS OpenData layer in both JOSM and ID. Has the address or URL changed, or is the server just down at the moment? Server room maintenance perhaps? There's some work mentioned here: http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Platform

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM University of Liverpool exercise (or 200 free(ish) volunteers)

2014-11-27 Thread SomeoneElse
On 27/11/2014 13:50, Nick Bearman wrote: and what areas in Liverpool would benefit most from the students contribution. Currently, giving the time available to the students, I would be thinking of a desk-based digitisation exercise, but this can be flexible. Based on a fleeting visit to Liver

Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits

2014-11-20 Thread SomeoneElse
On 20/11/2014 07:52, Lester Caine wrote: ... although the list of other local mappers on your profile is one place where I would like to see that particular link included! ... and don't forget that iD already includes an "edits by" section at the bottom of the screen which links to people who

Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits

2014-11-19 Thread SomeoneElse
For info, I added a comment to the first of these changesets and the editor replied there: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26783815 Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tal

[Talk-GB] Allegedly named motorways

2014-11-18 Thread SomeoneElse
There seem to be quite a few GB motorways in OSM with names, and some of those names don't look very plausible. For example, there's: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37906957 This is the M4 past Heathrow and apparently it is named the "Chiswick to Langley Special Road". That name seems to o

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.

2014-11-12 Thread SomeoneElse
For completeness, I've also added a changeset discussion comment to: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26688781 Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-11-12 Thread SomeoneElse
It looks like at least one node reverted as a result of the message below has been unreverted again: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2359499624/history Maybe I missed the memo about this, but I'm not convinced that shop tags doing the hokey-cokey makes OSM data any more usable :-) Cheers,

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.

2014-11-12 Thread SomeoneElse
On 12/11/2014 10:59, Stuart Reynolds wrote: Please pass the details back to me, and I will discuss it with them and also with the community if things need reverting. Thanks Stuart. All of my detailed comments so far have been on changesets. I went through http://www.openstreetmap.org/chan

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.

2014-11-12 Thread SomeoneElse
, but it needs experience and interpretation (and a local survey!) to see how everything on the ground relates to everything else. Based on their error rate so far I'd definitely still suggest that local mappers check their edits. Cheers, Andy On 08/11/2014 22:51, SomeoneElse w

[Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.

2014-11-08 Thread SomeoneElse
An anonymous note adder (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267719) and someone on IRC noticed some problematical railway edits near Sutton-in-Ashfield: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/311380489#map=15/53.1247/-1.2346&layers=N It looks like an attempt to dual the Robin Hood line went a bit wro

[Talk-GB] Mapping turn lanes on major roads

2014-11-07 Thread SomeoneElse
I'd always assumed that the correct way to map turn lanes is via: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:turn:lanes . However, some mappers in the UK* have started mapping each individual lane as a separate parallel road. Here's an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267402#map=19/53.

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-05 Thread SomeoneElse
On 05/11/2014 17:24, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Could you please have a look at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/UK_Shop_Names if there are any other changes that need removing or changing? "Wilkinson" we know are in a process of rebranding to "Wilko"; so I might be

[Talk-GB] Notes (was "Consolidated views of notes, fixmes, musical chairs, etc.")

2014-11-01 Thread SomeoneElse
On 01/11/2014 20:08, Matthijs Melissen wrote: I in fact even proposed incorporating a system that makes this explicit in the notes API: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-August/070423.html Unfortunately, my suggestion in that thread didn't gain traction. It's great to have an

Re: [Talk-GB] Consolidated views of notes, fixmes, musical chairs, etc.

2014-11-01 Thread SomeoneElse
g and offset imagery, etc.) that people who've been mapping for years take for granted. Cheers, Andy ** http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SomeoneElse/notes ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Notes vs Fixme

2014-10-24 Thread SomeoneElse
On 24/10/2014 14:06, Dave F. wrote: Specific Q lots of these notes in my area are 'Incorrect speed limit. Reported speed limit is 40 mph' from 'anonymous'. Where is it 'reported' from. Is it being compared with another database? That was mentioned on "talk": https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Notes vs Fixme

2014-10-24 Thread SomeoneElse
On 24/10/2014 14:06, Dave F. wrote: On 23/10/2014 13:04, SomeoneElse wrote: They maybe more visible, but that doesn't mean they get updated or offer more relevant data. If Fixmes had a front end overlay they'd, obviously, be just as noticeable. You could argue that they

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-23 Thread SomeoneElse
On 23/10/2014 12:57, Dave F. wrote: I'm not convinced Notes are cleared up any more than Fixmes They certainly are more visible to me - they're available for a simple overlay on the main map and get announced in IRC channels. In order to clear them up I wrote something* to create a Garmin

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-23 Thread SomeoneElse
On 22/10/2014 23:04, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Dear all, For all objects tagged with shop=betting and name Betfred, Coral, Ladbrokes, Paddy Power or William Hill, I am planning to change the tag shop=betting into shop=bookmaker. I'm usually the first to stand up for a "diversity of tags" in OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Deletions and newbie editors (was: Vandalism in London)

2014-10-06 Thread SomeoneElse
On 06/10/2014 11:30, Tom Chance wrote: My principal difficulty is in working out what people have done in each changeset. The best tool we had for this - OWL - is now defunct. This let you browse around the area looking at all changesets, seeing features that had been deleted / moved / tagge

Re: [Talk-GB] Deletions and newbie editors (was: Vandalism in London)

2014-10-05 Thread SomeoneElse
With new editors though I sometimes think we forget how hard it is for someone to start editing now in e.g. the centre of London compared to when we "experienced mappers" started. Here, for example (courtesy of Martijn Van Exel's "OSM Then and Now") is what the area I started mapping in looked

Re: [Talk-GB] Vandalism in London

2014-10-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/10/2014 10:14, David Woolley wrote: ... it is probably a mistaken attempt at personal mapping. That's what it looked like to me, certainly. The big problem with relations is that they tend to be subject to frequent edits, so reverts may fail, because they would take out a subsequen

Re: [Talk-GB] Lloyds TSB

2014-10-03 Thread SomeoneElse
On 03/10/2014 09:40, David Woolley wrote: On 02/10/14 09:30, Ed Loach wrote: It has been over a year now since I first mentioned http://www.loach.me.uk/osm/LloydsTSB/ here, and there are still lots of branches that haven't been remapped, so I thought I'd mention it again. The basic problem

Re: [Talk-GB] NCN 279 Exeter to Okehampton (and other destructions)

2014-09-07 Thread SomeoneElse
On 06/09/2014 23:09, Guy Collins wrote: ... inadvertently made the runways disappear ... and see also this issue raised against the "standard" style sheet today: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/927 ("Airport runways have disappeared") __

Re: [Talk-GB] NCN 279 Exeter to Okehampton (and other destructions)

2014-09-06 Thread SomeoneElse
On 06/09/2014 23:09, Guy Collins wrote: ... On an unrelated note I have been editing around Exeter airport today and it appears that I have (?) inadvertently made the runways disappear: maybe it was not the edit that caused this? The deleted taxiway, which is no longer there on the ground is

[Talk-GB] Imaginery footpaths added by user "Gavaasuren"

2014-08-18 Thread SomeoneElse
Hi, User "Gavaasuren" has been adding a series of imaginary footpaths over the last few weeks, each with the changeset comment "zwischen Fußgängerzonen und Straßen Fußweg erstellt". What they seem to be doing is joining "pedestrian islands" to random nearby roads in order to resolve "routing

[Talk-GB] Unsigned road names (was "C roads again")

2014-08-13 Thread SomeoneElse
On 13/08/2014 10:05, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 07:37 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: But it's a bit like the 'name' problem where a few roads have locally known names, but these are not displayed on signs :( Need recording but not necessarily displaying. I think thats an important p

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/08/2014 16:15, Pavlo Dudka wrote: Hi! I would like to add ukrainian names for cities of UK, but found that SomeoneElse_Revert removed some of name:uk-tags in changeset 20757217 with a comment "reverting undiscussed Ukrainian "translations" including ones for which there's nothing on the g

[Talk-GB] River vs stream (was: Tagging of British canals.)

2014-08-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 06/08/2014 19:17, richard wrote: Firstly a disclaimer, I am mostly an armchair mapper. I am working my way around the canals of Britain, tracing the canal banks and tidying up locks etc. (I have probably seen a dozen different ways that locks have been tagged.) On a related point, what's

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 05/08/2014 07:58, Pavlo Dudka wrote: Not, it is not a job for external services. It is much better to use single service(OSM) rather than multiple(OSM+Wikidata). Personally, I'd argue that OSM isn't a "service" so much as a "large lump of data". It has "services", but these are designed fo

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of British canals.

2014-08-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 06/08/2014 19:17, richard wrote: Firstly a disclaimer, I am mostly an armchair mapper. I am working my way around the canals of Britain, tracing the canal banks and tidying up locks etc. (I have probably seen a dozen different ways that locks have been tagged.) (on the more general point)

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-05 Thread SomeoneElse
On 05/08/2014 08:11, Pavlo Dudka wrote: I will use my own knowledge obtained on school lessons of history, geography and English. Large cities are worldwide-known. OK... I will be right saying that I can not know all cities, especially small. I will search ukrainian web articles to see if the

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/08/2014 16:15, Pavlo Dudka wrote: Hi! I would like to add ukrainian names for cities of UK, but found that SomeoneElse_Revert removed some of name:uk-tags in changeset 20757217 with a comment "reverting undiscussed Ukrainian "translations" including ones for which there's nothing on the g

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/08/2014 18:08, Philip Barnes wrote: The big problem with transliteration to help pronunciation is where do you stop, Berlin for example has 194 name tags for different languages, 84 of which just say Berlin. Which gets straight to the nub of the problem. Berlin does _not_ need a name:en

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN (stop) import

2014-08-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 01/08/2014 11:17, Stuart Reynolds wrote: OK. Clearly I'm going to have to think on this for a bit longer. I think looking at somewhere like Swanley is a good idea, and also at somewhere like Derbyshire if the stops data hasn't been imported there. If you want to test a merge/import in

Re: [Talk-GB] New mapper has imported all Nottingham street lights

2014-07-30 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/07/2014 23:03, Dave F. wrote: ... Is the data valid? Is it an accurate import? Would he have flagged it up if the user had added them manually one at a time? If the answers are Yes/Yes/No, then is there a genuine problem? I suspect the answers are currently "FSVO valid" (inasmuch it's wh

Re: [Talk-GB] highway=trunk Roads and Cycle Navigation

2014-07-27 Thread SomeoneElse
On 27/07/2014 22:26, ianmspen...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is that there is a tagging system in place which is ambiguous from an International point of view. It is indeed the case that when someone in Germany tags a trunk road the default access rules are different to when someone in E

Re: [Talk-GB] Solarium vs. Sunbed Salon vs. Tanning Salon

2014-07-16 Thread SomeoneElse
On 16/07/2014 19:09, SK53 wrote: I think all are acceptable. FWIW I've always followed Harry Wood's dictum and lumped these in as shop=beauty (aka Beauty Salon) possibly with a sub-tag beauty=tanning. But given the paucity of usage on taginfo.uk , I suspect I haven't been con

Re: [Talk-GB] os.openstreetmap.org down since at least Sunday

2014-07-11 Thread SomeoneElse
On 11/07/2014 14:15, SomeoneElse wrote: This message from Grant (and the previous items in the thread) explains what happened, I think? D'oh - more coffee clearly required - thankfully Andy Street beat me to it and actually included a

Re: [Talk-GB] os.openstreetmap.org down since at least Sunday

2014-07-11 Thread SomeoneElse
On 11/07/2014 14:05, David Woolley wrote: os.openstreetmap.org has been down every time I've tried since last Sunday. I've tried from two completely unrelated ISPs. I've googled for news, but found none, and the wiki still quotes it as the official tile server for OpenData StreetView. This

Re: [Talk-GB] Very creative teenager and railway=abandoned

2014-05-31 Thread SomeoneElse
Paweł Stankiewicz wrote: Hi Recently many railways in Fife have been resurrected like from Kelty and from Dunfermline to NW and to W: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/56.1121/-3.4351 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/104131260/history The author can be easy found by googling his name and plac

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: Wrongly mapped Lake District ways

2014-05-18 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/05/2014 19:19, Dudley Ibbett wrote: Hi Sum Wum has replied and was apologetic. They have attempted to correct their edits but several footpaths were still "distorted". I have therefore reverted this changeset and the original edits. Thanks Dudley - looks much less higgledypiggledy

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: New Contributor: YvetteE90

2014-05-08 Thread SomeoneElse
Andy Robinson wrote: I reverted this morning before I saw this thread. Oops - forgot to mention earlier - I added a Unibus 6 relation that matched the path of the added and then deleted service road: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3706081

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City (again, sorry!)

2014-04-24 Thread SomeoneElse
Tom Hughes wrote: On 22/04/14 13:29, SomeoneElse wrote: 1) "place=city" in OSM might or might not not mean the same as "is a ceremonial city, as defined in the UK" There is no "might" about it. The wiki at least is explicit: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: New Contributor: YvetteE90

2014-04-23 Thread SomeoneElse
jonathan wrote: I hate to do this but I don't have time to look in to this for ages. This new user has made one edit with various changes but a few pages of deletions. This always worries me, it may need reverting? http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21863539#map=18/52.95394/-1.47650 I d

[Talk-GB] Town v City (again, sorry!)

2014-04-22 Thread SomeoneElse
This was last discussed back in February: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2014-February/015867.html when someone (in the UK) changed a number of place=city to place=town. The discussion at the time covered: 1) "place=city" in OSM might or might not not mean the same as "is

Re: [Talk-GB] Not all Notes are Equal

2014-03-26 Thread SomeoneElse
Brian Prangle wrote: ... BUT …. now all the extant OpenStreetBugs Notes have migrated over , some of which are YEARS old, it’s all getting a bit crowded and hard to differentiate new notes. Most of the migrated notes (such as e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/110664 ) presumably "ju

Re: [Talk-GB] Problems with "armchair" edits of major road junctions in England

2014-03-25 Thread SomeoneElse
Philip Barnes wrote: The number of edits suggests to me that they are not inexperienced. Is it possible to get some sort of block until they start responding to emails? Phil (trigpoint) Unfortunately, the problem is still occurring: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/55.00717/-1.507

Re: [Talk-GB] Problems with "armchair" edits of major road junctions in England

2014-03-19 Thread SomeoneElse
On 19/03/2014 11:04, Filip Chirita Rares Cristian wrote: According to this, there's a lot of edits all over the UK, but also in the US, in some non-descript towns. http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?dbisping Since the number of edits is so high, over 4 years, I don't think reverting everything this use

Re: [Talk-GB] Problems with "armchair" edits of major road junctions in England

2014-03-19 Thread SomeoneElse
On 18/03/2014 07:13, Filip Chirita Rares Cristian wrote: What seems to be the general purpose of his edits? His change sets have no comments, so could it be that this is just a case of an inexperienced mapper, at worst a vandal? I'm not sure what the purpose is, as I've not had a reply to

[Talk-GB] Problems with "armchair" edits of major road junctions in England

2014-03-17 Thread SomeoneElse
There has been a large series of recent edits to major road junctions across England such as: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21125717 There have been about half a dozen by the same mapper near me (I'm in North Derbyshire) which are problematical for a number of reasons: a) Bus routes

Re: [Talk-GB] Bing imagery

2014-03-04 Thread SomeoneElse
(taking these in a slightly different order) Eric Grosso wrote: So from my point of view, the problem described initially by Will is still a current one. Indeed - higher up this thread I mentioned a location in Mansfield which used to have > z18 imagery and now no longer does for me (in Pot

Re: [Talk-GB] Bing imagery

2014-03-04 Thread SomeoneElse
Brian Prangle wrote: Try anywhere across Wolverhampton through Willenhall to Walsall - as you zoom through to level 19 you'll briefly see a nice sharp clear image which then reverts spontaneously to a less clear image with a huge shadow which furhter obscures detail. Have you got a link for w

Re: [Talk-GB] Bing imagery - West Midlands

2014-03-03 Thread SomeoneElse
Interestingly, Bing imagery that was present in December but missing in January has now reappeared: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=potlatch2#map=18/52.72279/-2.12197 so perhaps some kind of scheduled renewal process? Cheers, Andy ___ Ta

Re: [Talk-GB] Bing imagery

2014-03-03 Thread SomeoneElse
Andy Robinson wrote: Zooming in on Nottingham I'm seeing three different imagery versions at different zoom levels. I don't anything missing. Here's a specific example, to the north in Mansfield: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=potlatch2#map=19/53.14850/-1.18456 (using P2 because i

Re: [Talk-GB] A9 West of Perth - Vandalism - robbief14 again.

2014-02-20 Thread SomeoneElse
Alasdair McKinnon wrote: I've spotted that the A9 West of Perth is wrongly designated as the M9 and A93. It has also been re-routed over a short length. Thanks for mentioning it. From looking at it, it appears that the current status is as a result of a revert 10 days ago: http://www.ope

Re: [Talk-GB] Possible vandalism? New Forth Road Bridge being changed to motorway from construction

2014-02-16 Thread SomeoneElse
Their edits in Australia have led to a block being requested: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2014-February/010286.html Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-g

Re: [Talk-GB] Possible vandalism? New Forth Road Bridge being changed to motorway from construction

2014-02-15 Thread SomeoneElse
Donald Noble wrote: Hi All, The user robbief14 [1] has changed sections of the M90 around the New Forth Road Bridge which are still currently under construction to live motorway. They had also deleted all of the tags for the current road bridge. ... and they're back: http://www.openstree

Re: [Talk-GB] Possible vandalism? New Forth Road Bridge being changed to motorway from construction

2014-02-10 Thread SomeoneElse
Roger Calvert wrote: It might be worth considering a 'play' version of the data base, where beginners, schools and others could try things out without damaging the main map. This would be refreshed every so often, and changes would disappear. I've occasionally pointed new mappers at http://a

Re: [Talk-GB] Vandalism by user "DoubleA"

2014-01-20 Thread SomeoneElse
For info, another example - I've reverted http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20083935 which moved the source (for the relation membership) from one way to the relation as a whole so that http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1438826/history had tag "source=paths at each end", which is cl

[Talk-GB] Vandalism by user "DoubleA"

2014-01-10 Thread SomeoneElse
For info, following discussion in the #osm-gb IRC channel I've reverted a couple of changesets by "DoubleA" *. They're an armchair mapper from near Munich, I believe, and their grasp of English (language and custom) is limited, which means that they often don't understand why certain things ha

Re: [Talk-GB] Could somebody revert this changeset?

2013-12-19 Thread SomeoneElse
On 19/12/2013 10:15, Tom Chance wrote: ... http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/19400206 ... Would somebody be able to revert it? Done in http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/19528645 Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetma

[Talk-GB] "naptan:Landmark" tags

2013-12-15 Thread SomeoneElse
Does anyone use the fact that some of these were set to "N/A" by the original Naptan import? If so, you might want to discuss changeset 19472400 with its author, which has removed a number of these. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@op

Re: [Talk-GB] Mechanically setting name tag of Naptan data

2013-11-26 Thread SomeoneElse
Matthijs Melissen wrote: In Birmingham, all bus stops have been imported from Naptan, but during the import, the name tag has not been set. I am considering adding the name tag, by setting it to something like: camelcase(naptan:Street) + ' / ' + naptan:CommonName That way, the name tag in OSM w

[Talk-GB] Sources - was "Re: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website"

2013-11-18 Thread SomeoneElse
Jonathan wrote: ... but are traces really that important now? They have some uses but the bulk of sources now and going forward are from other methods? If "other methods" means "copying from other data sources rather than actually going out and surveying" then you're never going to get "the b

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-18 Thread SomeoneElse
Jonathan wrote: I can almost see OSM splitting into two halves, one half concentrating on the human facing side of OSM, such as map rendering, interfacing with users and building user apps and features, and the other half concentrating on the data side, such as editing, data structure, integ

Re: [Talk-GB] Editor backbground layers in iD

2013-11-09 Thread SomeoneElse
On 09/11/2013 13:14, Rob Nickerson wrote: We are mixing up two issues here. One is as to whether historic layers should be removed from the default menus What exactly do you mean by "the default menus" here? There are no "default menus" in OSM, only menus in different instances of different

[Talk-GB] Railway edits in Manchester and Leeds (and in between)

2013-11-01 Thread SomeoneElse
A number of potentially problematical edits to railways have been made in the Manchester and Leeds areas over the last day or so. It's by a new mapper who seems to be still feeling their way a bit and people local to those areas might want to check some of their edits. For example in Leeds ht

Re: [Talk-GB] Editor backbground layers in iD

2013-11-01 Thread SomeoneElse
Paul Norman wrote: It's worth pointing out that iD doesn't actually have an imagery list. It inherits its from the editor-imagery-index project at http://osmlab.github.io/editor-imagery-index/, which is for OpenStreetMap editing, not historical mapping or a general list of all possible imagery

Re: [Talk-GB] Vanguard Way

2013-10-30 Thread SomeoneElse
UrbanRambler1 wrote: Hi David, (it was me that said this, actually) "It looks like the Vanguard Way website uses OS maps, and the ways that form part of it in OSM haven't all been surveyed for e.g. surface, gates and stiles, and that sort of thing." I can assure you that I walked every bit o

Re: [Talk-GB] Editor backbground layers in iD

2013-10-30 Thread SomeoneElse
Rob Nickerson wrote: 2). iD is a general purpose editor. It can be used for OpenHistoricalMap too. Indeed - perhaps I should have been clearer that I'm talking about the instance in use on the OSM site used to edit the OSM map, not any other instance which presumably could feature any layer

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