Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Thread Jim Avery
On 23 August 2010 12:59, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 23/08/10 12:46, Jim Avery wrote: > >> Forgive me if I'm missing something staring me in the face, but where >> do I find the new T&Cs and how do I sign up to them should I decide I >> want to? > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/terms Many thanks

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Thread Peter Miller
Please consider the environment. Do you really need to print this email? > > > From: Tom Chance [...@acrewoods.net] > Sent: 23 August 2010 08:55 > To: Barnett, Phillip > Cc: David Groom; Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not curre

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Thread Tom Hughes
On 23/08/10 12:46, Jim Avery wrote: Forgive me if I'm missing something staring me in the face, but where do I find the new T&Cs and how do I sign up to them should I decide I want to? http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/terms Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Thread Jim Avery
Forgive me if I'm missing something staring me in the face, but where do I find the new T&Cs and how do I sign up to them should I decide I want to? Cheers, Jim (corshamjim, OSC contributor since some time last year) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Thread Ian Spencer
Richard Fairhurst wrote on 23/08/2010 12:00: Phillip Barnett wrote: Potlatch is still offering Opendata as a layer, with no warning as to the potential problem vis a vis existing contributions. Shouldn't we be dropping this rather quickly? I

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Richard Fairhurst wrote: I like the "we" there - much better than the usual "Richard". Really looking forward to the patch to the API so that users can retrieve their own CT status We should really pay more attention to the API change log. http://git.openstreetmap.org/?p=rails.git;a=commit;h=9

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Phillip Barnett wrote: > Potlatch is still offering Opendata as a layer, with no warning as to the > potential problem vis a vis existing contributions. Shouldn't we be > dropping this rather quickly? I like the "we" there - much better than the usual "Richard". Really looking forward to the pa

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Thread Barnett, Phillip
email? From: Tom Chance [...@acrewoods.net] Sent: 23 August 2010 08:55 To: Barnett, Phillip Cc: David Groom; Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2% On 22 August 2010 20:52, Barnet

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Thread Ed Avis
Tom Chance writes: >I have been contributing stacks of data using the OS StreetView data on the >assumption that - having been discussed, put on the wiki and into Potlatch, it >was OK. Now I hear from Etienne that I might have to drop out of OpenStreetMap >because my user account may not be compa

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Thread Tom Chance
On 22 August 2010 20:52, Barnett, Phillip wrote: > Potlatch is still offering Opendata as a layer, with no warning as to the > potential problem vis a vis existing contributions. Shouldn't we be dropping > this rather quickly? > > Quite! Also, why is it on the wiki without a massive red font war

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Thread Ed Avis
Andrew writes: >In the unlikely event that issues with Opendata are unresolvable the database >people will have to remove all Opendata-based mapping anyway, leaving my >contributions clean. This is in the even more unlikely event that the benefit to the project from moving to ODbL (which is, um,

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Andrew
David Groom writes: > Oh , if only it were that simple. > > Partly as I said in my earlier email, the CT's talk about data you have > added, not data which still exists. > > But more importantly your contributions would still remain in all the planet > dumps, so I presume you'd be relying on

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Andrew" To: Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB]Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2% David Groom writes: Oh , if only it were that simple. Partly as I said in my earlier email

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Craig Loftus
Andrew wrote: > There is essentially no difference post-relicensing between data derived from > an > unrelicensable source and mapping that is not relicensed because people cannot > be contacted. Planet dumps from the CC-by-SA era are a non-issue because they > remain wholly under the Creative Co

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Andrew" To: Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB]Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2% David Groom writes: Arguably it is too late, if you take a strict interpretation of the C

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Andrew
David Groom writes: > Arguably it is too late, if you take a strict interpretation of the CT's and > their preamble. I see no real problem. All of my Opendata-based edits have clear source tags; apart from quality control issues, I have always understood this is needed for the licence even wit

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Barnett, Phillip
-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of David Groom Sent: 22 August 2010 20:30 To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2% - Original Message - From: "Barnett, Phillip" To: "'80n'

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "80n" <80n...@gmail.com> To: "Barnett, Phillip" Cc: "David Groom" ; Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2% Phillip OSM has

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Barnett, Phillip" To: "'80n'" <80n...@gmail.com>; "David Groom" Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:06 PM Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

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2010-08-22 Thread 80n
18:41 > *To:* David Groom > *Cc:* Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a > source WAS The last 2% > > > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 3:23 PM, David Groom > wrote: > > > > ----- Original Me

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Barnett, Phillip
[mailto:talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of 80n Sent: 22 August 2010 18:41 To: David Groom Cc: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2% On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 3:23 PM, David Groom mailto:revi...@pacific-r

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread 80n
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 3:23 PM, David Groom wrote: > > > - Original Message - From: "Kevin Peat" > To: "Robert Whittaker (OSM)" > >; > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 2:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Op

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
>>> However, that doesn't change the fact that the OS OpenData license is >>> incompatible with the contributor terms, and DbCL, and quite possibly >>> ODbL too. >>> >> I thought this was still to be confirmed? It may not be that important to >> townies but there is a lot of value in the OS data f

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Kevin Peat" To: "Robert Whittaker (OSM)" ; Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2% However, that doesn't change the fact t

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Kevin Peat
> However, that doesn't change the fact that the OS OpenData license is > incompatible with the contributor terms, and DbCL, and quite possibly > ODbL too. > > I thought this was still to be confirmed? It may not be that important to townies but there is a lot of value in the OS data for rural map

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
>> OS opendata is released under a CC-BY-SA licence >> > Please go and actually read the OS OpenData licence. It is not CC-BY-SA. > Please stop spreading this FUD. You're right, it's not CC-By-SA. The actual license is a custom "attribution-style" license, that's closest equivalent in CC terms wou

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-18 Thread Chris Hill
David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: "Shane Reynolds" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2% Hi, I am the developer who works on a number of products including OSM Analysis for ITO. I am slightly confused about making the OS Locator

[Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-18 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Shane Reynolds" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2% Hi, I am the developer who works on a number of products including OSM Analysis for ITO. I am slightly confused about making the OS Locator box a dashed box i