Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Postcodes

2011-01-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
A follow up on this. Chillly (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/chillly) has rendered tiles with the postcodes on which you can use in JOSM and other editors. Currently he's loaded Birmingham for us but plans to do the other areas too. Follow the instructions here to use it:

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Ed Loach
Thanks to your rendering, I find I used the lock gate tag for a sluice gate after some dim and distance past survey (Feb 2009). Is there a better tag available these days? Ed From: Graham Jones [mailto:grahamjones...@gmail.com] Sent: 20 January 2011 05:59 To: Kev js1982 Cc:

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Graham Jones wrote: I just added navigable rivers and it looks a bit more like a network now. There are still a few odd gaps to investigate though. That's putting it mildly. :) I knew our waterway coverage was erratic but I hadn't realised it was _that_ poor. Navigable rivers are particularly

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Bob Kerr
Hi, On some rivers upstream there are points tagged for canoeing. see http://whitewater.quaker.eu.org/ I'm not sure if this will effect your work but I thought I should let you know. The tags in this case are placed on the nodes inside the waterway=riverbank way Cheers Bob --- On Thu, 20/1/11,

[Talk-GB] WebGL

2011-01-20 Thread Bob Kerr
Hi, Does anyone know if there has been any consideration on using OSM vector data with WebGL. Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread kevin
I was working on this very area this morning - now (I think) much improved. I went with canal + boat=no for the New River as it's man-made but non-navigable. Kevin --Original Message-- From: Tom Hughes To: Richard Fairhurst Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: 20 Jan 2011 10:50 Subject:

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
There are also long sections of the Grantham Canal which are Nature Reserves: there's a fantastic stretch in the Vale of Belvoir with masses of interesting aquatic vegetation and in late May, early June a remarkable range of dragonflies and damselflies. There are some conflicts in tagging

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Tom Hughes
On 20/01/11 11:09, ke...@cordina.org.uk wrote: I went with canal + boat=no for the New River as it's man-made but non-navigable. Well the New River is always fun - as the signs say, it's neither New nor a River ;-) Whether it's a canal is an interesting question... I think the best

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Brian Prangle
It would be good to have leisure=marina then Gas Street Basin (and others) in Birmingham would render On 20 January 2011 11:11, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 20/01/11 11:09, ke...@cordina.org.uk wrote: I went with canal + boat=no for the New River as it's man-made but non-navigable.

Re: [Talk-GB] WebGL

2011-01-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello Bob, I developed a prototype a little over a year ago, at http://www.free-map.org.uk/3d/. It overlaid OSM data on NASA SRTM height data to produce a 3D scene. However due to changes in the WebGL spec it is currently non functional. I have not had time to update it as I have been

[Talk-GB] Administrative Borders

2011-01-20 Thread Brian Prangle
Is anyone working on importing the boundaries from the shape file available from OS OpenData? Does it have ward level boundaries for major cities? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jerry Clough wrote: I'd also second TomH: there are lots of things showing as navigable which look odd: Cromford Canal from Cromford to Ambergate (now a nature reserve, and possibly an SSSI) That is navigable, and navigated, though not as much as it was when first restored in the 1980s

Re: [Talk-GB] WebGL

2011-01-20 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:18:56 +, Nick Whitelegg wrote: [..] The code however is open source so can be installed on any server. Where is the code hosted? :) I can't see any pointer in the page you linked. Thank you, David -- . ''`. Debian developer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino

Re: [Talk-GB] WebGL

2011-01-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Well it's all JavaScript so you can do View source on the index.html for a start ;-) Seriously though, it's under OSM SVN. Sorry, should have mentioned that originally. See http://svn.openstreetmap.org/sites/free-map.org.uk/3d/ Nick -David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: - To:

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread SomeoneElse
On 20/01/2011 11:10, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: Certainly the Grantham Canal is a good place to clarify how to tag canals in various states of disuse: ... ... Cromford Canal from Cromford to Ambergate ... Mea culpa for parts of both of those. I think that I used canoeable (i.e. having

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Someoneelse wrote: I suspect that you could probably get a larger boat along the top bit (just south of Ambergate) without too many issues, but I think the bottom bit had signs suggesting not to disturb anything. From WW's most recent article on the Cromford: As a gateway to the World

[Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi all, Sending this to talk-gb@ first (rather than tagging@ or talk@) as I'm just floating an idea... I've long wanted to get motor traffic levels on rural roads into OSM. Traffic levels make a huge difference to the enjoyability of rural cycling, and would enable really fun rendering

Re: [Talk-GB] Administrative Borders

2011-01-20 Thread Chris Hill
On 20/01/11 11:18, Brian Prangle wrote: Is anyone working on importing the boundaries from the shape file available from OS OpenData? Does it have ward level boundaries for major cities? I have imported parish boundaries and the county boundary in my local area. It is hard work because they

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
I note on the Natural England condition statement that they use the phrase Residual Waterway, so perhaps we can make use of something like canal=residual. Jonathan Briggs did a nice article on the ecology of the Montgomery Canal in British Wildlife a few years ago (BW, 17:401-410, 2006

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Mann
Traffic planners typically measure motor-vehicles-per-day (and quote it to the nearest thousand), so I'd do traffic=1000, with advice somewhere that you can use 1000* off-peak cars-per minute as an approximation. 10* motor-vehicles per peak-hour is also a common rule-of-thumb (but I wouldn't

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Kevin Peat
Richard, I think in my part of the SW the large majority of highway=unclassified would be =1 car a minute average so just from a tagging perspective it would be a lot easier just tagging those few that are busier. Kevin On 20 January 2011 12:48, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread martyn
In my region, The River Stort navigation, from Roydon up to the limit of navigation to Bishops Stortford, is mostly tagged waterway=river. But this is frequently navigated, has locks, a towpath, and is wide enough for vessels wider than the traditional narrowboats. I'm not a waterway

Re: [Talk-GB] invisible

2011-01-20 Thread Henry Gomersall
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 21:37 +, Graham Jones wrote: The map tiles for the canal map I just generated take up 2.4GB (down to zoom level 14). I just extracted the canal data from the database (lines, points and polygons) and as a simple text file it was less than 57MB. Gzip compression took

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Craig Loftus
I like the idea. And although I like the simplicity, I think it might be worth somehow taking account for seasonable variability. There a number of quiet roads in the Lakes etc. atm that I wouldn't want to walk down in the summer. Perhaps the simplest approach would be using traffic:note to say

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Kevin Peat wrote: I think in my part of the SW the large majority of highway=unclassified would be =1 car a minute average so just from a tagging perspective it would be a lot easier just tagging those few that are busier. I'm very envious... if only I could say the same of the large

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and one car per minute

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Richard Mann wrote: Traffic planners typically measure motor-vehicles-per-day (and quote it to the nearest thousand), so I'd do traffic=1000, with advice somewhere that you can use 1000* off-peak cars-per minute as an approximation. Whatever - I tend to leave that sort of stuff to the

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Malcolm Herring
On 20/01/2011 05:59, Graham Jones wrote: I just added navigable rivers and it looks a bit more like a network now. There are still a few odd gaps to investigate though. The gaps are most likely due to missing boat=yes tags. I noticed that one river I mapped had a couple of gaps sure enough,

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Malcolm Herring
On 20/01/2011 13:56, martyn wrote: In my region, The River Stort navigation, from Roydon up to the limit of navigation to Bishops Stortford, is mostly tagged waterway=river. But this is frequently navigated, has locks, a towpath, and is wide enough for vessels wider than the traditional

[Talk-GB] Update to OSM Analysis

2011-01-20 Thread Peter Miller
ITO are pleased to offer out updated version of OSM Analysis with a thematic overview page allowing us to see how we are getting on in different parts of the county. To get the top prize 95% of the roads represented in OS Locator need to be in OSM and there are 17 districts which achieve that

Re: [Talk-GB] Update to OSM Analysis

2011-01-20 Thread Tom Chance
Peter, This is fantastic work, very helpful. However, I suspect celtic areas are still suffering a problem with non-ASCII characters. For example, Lon or Lôn should really be a minor error that barely merits a mention: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/6075428

Re: [Talk-GB] Update to OSM Analysis

2011-01-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 20 January 2011 15:42, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: ITO are pleased to offer out updated version of OSM Analysis with a thematic overview page allowing us to see how we are getting on in different parts of the county. To get the top prize 95% of the roads represented in OS

Re: [Talk-GB] Update to OSM Analysis

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Mabbett wrote: An interesting piece of work. Scilly Isles, with 57 roads mapped, rank higher than my home town, Birmingham, with 8,972 mapped. ITYM the Scilly Isles, with 0 roads missing, rank higher than my home town, Birmingham, with 206 roads missing. Also,

[Talk-GB] OSM Analysis name tags

2011-01-20 Thread Peter Miller
gregorymarler has asked on twitter about which tags we check within the OSM Analysis service. The answer currently is as follows: name en:name alt_name not:name Gregory also mentioned old_name which we will add shortly when others have had time to give feedback. Do people want any more?

Re: [Talk-GB] Update to OSM Analysis

2011-01-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
ITO are pleased to offer out updated version of OSM Analysis with a thematic overview page allowing us to see how we are getting on in different parts of the county. To get the top prize 95% of the roads represented in OS Locator need to be in OSM and there are 17 districts which achieve that

Re: [Talk-GB] Update to OSM Analysis

2011-01-20 Thread Peter Miller
On 20 January 2011 16:50, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 20 January 2011 15:42, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: ITO are pleased to offer out updated version of OSM Analysis with a thematic overview page allowing us to see how we are getting on in different

Re: [Talk-GB] Update to OSM Analysis

2011-01-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 20 January 2011 16:56, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Andy Mabbett wrote: An interesting piece of work. Scilly Isles, with 57 roads mapped, rank higher than my home town, Birmingham, with 8,972 mapped. ITYM the Scilly Isles, with 0 roads missing, rank higher than my home

Re: [Talk-GB] Update to OSM Analysis

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Mabbett wrote: Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_the_glass_half_empty_or_half_full? Touché. :) cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Update-to-OSM-Analysis-tp5944227p5944598.html Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
The Lichfield and Hatherton canal aqueduct, over the M6 Toll, is a case in point: http://www.lhcrt.org.uk/aqueduct.htm On 20 January 2011 10:48, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: James Davis wrote: Dealing with 'disused' was nice and easy - I have deleted disused locks altogether

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis name tags

2011-01-20 Thread Peter Miller
On 20 January 2011 17:20, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: How about dialects? name:en name:cy name:gd name:gv name:sco name:ga Whatever other regional languages we have. we believe that the OS Locator content is always in English. In the Western Isles the name field for roads in

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis name tags

2011-01-20 Thread Tom Chance
On 20 January 2011 17:28, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: On 20 January 2011 17:20, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: How about dialects? name:en name:cy name:gd name:gv name:sco name:ga Whatever other regional languages we have. we believe that the OS Locator

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis name tags

2011-01-20 Thread Craig Wallace
On 20/01/2011 17:28, Peter Miller wrote: On 20 January 2011 17:20, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net mailto:t...@acrewoods.net wrote: How about dialects? name:en name:cy name:gd name:gv name:sco name:ga Whatever other regional languages we have. we believe that

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis name tags

2011-01-20 Thread Peter Miller
On 20 January 2011 17:44, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 20/01/2011 17:28, Peter Miller wrote: On 20 January 2011 17:20, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net mailto:t...@acrewoods.net wrote: How about dialects? name:en name:cy name:gd name:gv name:sco

[Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-20 Thread Chris Hill
Now that people are tracing buildings from Bing etc addressing is getting more widespread, but one awkward area is postcodes. The Open data that OS released last year included the Code Point Open dataset which has the location of postcode centroids. These can help with adding postcodes to

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Graham Jones
Richard, A direct link to an editor would be really neat...Do you know how to do it? I suppose I need to use javascript to detect that you have clicked on the 'edit' link, then update the link to be the map origin? Or is there an easy way - not sure how the 'Permalink' thing works - I'll dig

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Tom Chance
I used the OpenStreetMap homepage code for inspiration and wrote a stripped down version for this page: http://www.openecomaps.co.uk/map.php Basically you give the link an ID, get the relevant variables from OpenLayers and register events to update the link every time the map changes.

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Graham Jones
Tom, Richard, I think I have got an alternative way of doing it - the Openlayers Permalink control can take a 'base' parameter, which is the url base that it links to (like http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit). It is working on http://maps.webhop.net/canals now. Not as pretty as the main OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Graham Jones
Another cause of 'odd gaps' seems to be large rivers that have riverbanks drawn (waterway=riverbank), but no way down the middle tagged as waterway=river. I am minded to keep the rendering unchanged on the grounds that the wiki says it should have the waterway=river way (

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Graham Jones wrote: I think I have got an alternative way of doing it - the Openlayers Permalink control can take a 'base' parameter, which is the url base that it links to (like http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit). It is working on http://maps.webhop.net/canals now. That works brilliantly

Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)

2011-01-20 Thread Graham Jones
Thanks - I think it does show that I need to render to higher zoom levels - it is nice to zoom in more before switching to Potlatch to reduce the load time, but you lose my overlay tiles first. I am importing the UK OSM database into a little virtual server at the moment - once that is done I

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-20 Thread Richard Bullock
Please do not just add the centroid to the map. I don't see the value of that. I am interested in the experience people gain from using this data, for example to add postcodes to an address such as addr:postcode. I've added a few addr:postcode to my existing addr:* house numbering. In the vast

Re: [Talk-GB] WebGL

2011-01-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I developed a prototype a little over a year ago, at http://www.free-map.org.uk/3d/. It overlaid OSM data on NASA SRTM height data to produce a 3D scene. However due to changes in the WebGL spec it is currently non functional. I have not had time to update it as I have been concentrating on