Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] mapping conundrum

2012-10-09 Thread Philip Barnes
You can check house prices online, have any in that area changed hands for a disproportionately high price? http://www.nethouseprices.com/ Is the railway line still open to passengers, I can see that the stations have closed, but a ride in a train along there may be of interest. Phil On Tue,

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] mapping conundrum

2012-10-09 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 23:36 +0100, Big Fat Frog wrote: This is very puzzling. On a separate but connected note, if the Google imagery had shown a clear entrance/drive/path or whatever, I presume that would have to be left out of the DB due to copyright? Also, does our allowed use of Bing

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] operator = bcc

2013-01-18 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 11:03 +, Andy Mabbett wrote: We seem to have a number of tags, in Birmingham, with a value of operator = bcc. Would it be possible, and sensible, to have these changed to operator = Birmingham City Council? I would think that is sensible, we should avoid such

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] New BING imagery

2013-03-01 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 17:25 +, Rob Nickerson wrote: Thanks for letting us know. Based on the progress of the Coventry public realm improvements and this cross-reference photo [1], I would date the imagery as circa 27th March 2012. I am in North Shropshire, it certainly looks like this

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Summer Tour

2014-04-04 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Brian I have not managed to get to the pub I mentioned in Wellington, but after some thought the area I believe really needs a mapping blitz is Oakengates, http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/52.69476/-2.45138 This is a town centre that has received very little attention. A quick glance in

Re: [Talk-GB] Licence change - one month to go

2012-03-02 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 14:35 +, Richard Fairhurst wrote: We change to the new licence in just under a month's time, so it's a good time to look at the current state of the UK. What's likely not to be carried through to the new database? The good news is that the UK is in a very healthy

[Talk-GB] Mapquest routing

2012-03-08 Thread Philip Barnes
I have just been having a play with open.mapquest. It looks really good, and would love to see it used more. I did come up with one strange, but hopefully easyly fixed, problem. I have put in a route from Markfield, Leicestershire to Wem, Shropshire. Initially it all looks good, it uses the M6

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapquest routing

2012-03-09 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 13:22 +, Andrew wrote: Andy Allan gravitystorm@... writes: I'll bet it's to do with the US. I think that in the US we are mapping freeways as either highway=motorway (for freeways that cross state lines, i.e. Interstates) or highway=trunk (for freeways

Re: [Talk-GB] Using UK v GB for uk speed limit tags

2012-04-27 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 15:38 +0100, Rob Nickerson wrote: Good question. I had a quick look on google and found the following website: http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/speed-limits-how-they-are-set One particular quote is of interest: Although national speed limits can be set for Northern

Re: [Talk-GB] Problematical rural edits across England

2012-04-27 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 12:25 +0100, Andy Street wrote: On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 02:12 +0100, SomeoneElse wrote: I've been in contact with the mapper concerned about these problems several times over the past month, trying to be friendly and helpful, as would only be fair to a new mapper.

Re: [Talk-GB] Micronations

2012-05-10 Thread Philip Barnes
Really not, and doesn't have the comedy ring of being his parents basement. Can't find it, I guess its somewhere in Buxton? Phil Sent from my Nokia N9 On 10/05/2012 8:23 Brian Prangle wrote: If you look at zoom level 3 for the UK you will see the Kingdom of Ivania rendered. A google search

Re: [Talk-GB] Rights of way - Image vote

2012-05-12 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 10:00 +0100, Robert Norris wrote: I've added my 2 penneth. Maybe we should gather more samples of signs - e.g. to show differing Councils styles (and then hopefully agreed tagging) to give better guidelines. I've have a look my photos but I think I tend to delete

Re: [Talk-GB] Rights of way - Image vote

2012-05-12 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 18:22 +0100, Ed Loach wrote: Further to my earlier answer, Essex arrows tend to have the CC crest on the arrow itself, and public footpath (or whatever) around the top of the circle (if the arrow is pointing straight up). So I might change my answer if there is *just* a

Re: [Talk-GB] routing on the road network

2012-05-16 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 13:42 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Appetite, yes, but you can also easily chase people away if your system detects too many things where people don't think it's a bug at all, so some tuning might be necessary. One of the weaknesses of most of the existing systems (with

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging maxwidth Except for access

2012-05-31 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 20:49 +0200, Colin Smale wrote: Tagging it as maxwidth=6'6 and ignoring the qualification is IMHO a good starting point on the grounds that routers tend to ignore all sorts of restrictions in the initial and final bits of the route anyway. I hope they never ignore this

Re: [Talk-GB] OT: Is Bristol the UK's only cross-border city?

2012-06-13 Thread Philip Barnes
The built up area of Chester straddles the England-Wales border and the football ground is right on the border. The pitch being in Wales and some of the car park and offices in England. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 13/06/2012 13:13 Colin Smale wrote: Not directly OSM-related but I

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW Ref tagging when ROW is also a road

2012-06-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 14:33 +0100, Gregory wrote: On 19 June 2012 14:13, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Gregory wrote: On 19 June 2012 14:07, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I use admin:ref for refs that are

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-06-30 Thread Philip Barnes
I had spotted some of these, same mapper, near Whitchurch, and must admit it has concerned me as previously it had shown on the map as a tracked. It is still visible on the ground, but now not visible on the map. This seems wrong to me, my feeling it should be reverted. Was going to contract the

Re: [Talk-GB] Millennium Greens Doorstep Greens

2012-07-04 Thread Philip Barnes
Don't know if I did it right, but I mapped Wem millennium garden using leisure =park, designation =Wem millennium garden. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/147994711. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 04/07/2012 12:42 Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi All, I am looking for suggestions on how

Re: [Talk-GB] Temporary road closures

2012-07-12 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 17:46 +0100, J.Woollacott wrote: The challenge is to remember to remove the restriction at the end of the event. Always add a note as well explaining what's in place so somebody else understands and doesn't 'fix it' Jason W (UniEagle) Would it not be better to

[Talk-GB] Strange Routing Error

2012-07-15 Thread Philip Barnes
I am trying to fix a routing problem, that I found whilst investigating an error was reported in mapdust. It is a strange one and has me totally baffled, so hoping someone here can help. A simple U-Turn around a roundabout, adds a detour along Llangollen Road, to then use Tower Hill to turn

Re: [Talk-GB] Potential Vandalism - AGAIN

2012-08-18 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2012-08-18 at 20:37 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote: +1 for blocking Have contacted islandtoerag about silly edits in Southampton, no response. Time to block this destructive yob. Nick +1 to blocking He currently appears to be destroying the Long Island Expressway in New York.

Re: [Talk-GB] Potential Vandalism - AGAIN

2012-08-18 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2012-08-18 at 23:16 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote: On Sat, 2012-08-18 at 20:37 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote: +1 for blocking Have contacted islandtoerag about silly edits in Southampton, no response. Time to block this destructive yob. Nick +1 to blocking He currently

Re: [Talk-GB] Potential Vandalism - AGAIN

2012-08-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2012-08-19 at 10:00 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote: I am wondering who it is and why. THOU SHALT NOT REVERT confirms he/she/it knows what they are doing. Agreed. This one is called THE GENERAL SHALL NOT REVERT THEE http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12777187

Re: [Talk-GB] Find My Nearest Cash Machine

2012-08-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 12:33 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi Andy Impressive! Shame about the data. Just done a quick look around Acocks Green - ATMs missing and some are up to 30m away from their actual location. I would estimate about 95% accuracy. Anyone else had a look? Too small an

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Philip Barnes
Which forum thread? Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 21/08/2012 14:32 Tom Chance wrote: On 21 August 2012 13:29, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Also, mass-retagging I frown upon. Why was this even done?! Agreed. Frederick has already applied a block. Out of interest, which part of

Re: [Talk-GB] On Countryside paths

2012-08-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 20:37 +0100, Borbus wrote: On 21/08/12 19:11, Adam Hoyle wrote: Speaking of the which, anyone have any idea when the designation tag will be rendered on the main OSM renderer (or even in Potlatch which would do me in the short term). The mapnik layer on osm.org is

Re: [Talk-GB] Should highway=byway be deprecated?

2012-08-22 Thread Philip Barnes
I have seen Byway signs in Wiltshire in the past few months. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 22/08/2012 14:21 SomeoneElse wrote: Dave F. wrote: is there an out of copyright source for the two different types of byway: restricted_byway byway_open_to_all_traffic? I'd imagine that the

Re: [Talk-GB] Channel Tunnel Routing

2012-09-08 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2012-09-08 at 11:15 +0100, Craig Wallace wrote: On 07/09/2012 21:03, Philip Barnes wrote: A while ago I had a burst of ferry and Channel Tunnel routing, I had successfully got routing through the Channel Tunnel working, although some tracing needed to be done with the French

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed changes

2012-09-25 Thread Philip Barnes
I can think of quite a few border roads that will need signposts before that happens. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 25/09/2012 1:38 SomeoneElse wrote: Peter Miller wrote: Correct. I did however use alternative maxspeed:type at times which also appears in the DB and which I feel is

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed changes

2012-09-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 14:00 +0100, Jason Cunningham wrote: A few of my own thoughts. Since the subject came up on the GB list a year ago I've been adding speed limits. Personal confusion about a speed limit on a roundabout along a dual carriageway led to me creating a personal page about UK

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed changes

2012-09-27 Thread Philip Barnes
I would not consider a roundabout or a slip road to be any different to that signposted. Whilst exceeding 60 on a roundabout is unlikely, I would consider the limit to be that of the road it is joining. In the days before the chopsticks signs on motorways, and still in Scotland, the 70 sign

Re: [Talk-GB] maxspeed changes

2012-10-01 Thread Philip Barnes
I was thinking of asking on sabre. Am especially puzzled by the slip road situation. Tomtom does drop the limit to 60 on slip roads, which I had always assumed is an error. One place I have noticed it recently is going from the A41 to the A55 westbound near Chester. At some point, before the

[Talk-GB] Stiles (and gates) on roads

2012-10-09 Thread Philip Barnes
I have recently found a fairly common problem with stiles and pedestrian gates where footpaths join roads. Often a stile, or gate tagged for access on foot only, is used at the junction with a road. Routers then assume the road is for foot only and route around. I am not finding any users are

Re: [Talk-GB] Stiles (and gates) on roads

2012-10-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 19:07 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: Instead, the two paths on the same side should meet at a separate node a small distance from the style, with a short linking segment between that node and the stile. With a short segment joining the

Re: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands

2012-10-15 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Andy The A460 is very definitely not a motorway. The change is wrong and needs to be reverted. As a new Shropshire resident, I regularly travel this way, as our familes are still in Leicestershire. I can correct this from knowledge easily and can run a new GPS trace when I go that way at the

Re: [Talk-GB] Addition of Wikipedia links in German!

2012-10-21 Thread Philip Barnes
I am baffled by this one http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13567143, amongst many others. Anyone able to ask why in a politely worded German email? Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 21/10/2012 16:33 SomeoneElse wrote: On 21/10/2012 16:08, Robert Norris wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM mapping parties/events in London in November

2012-10-31 Thread Philip Barnes
If you are in other parts of the UK between those days you may find other areas with social meetings too. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 31/10/2012 15:04 Tom Hughes wrote: On 31/10/12 14:45, Kathleen Danielson wrote: Sorry to burst into the conversation here, but I organize the Geo

Re: [Talk-GB] Problem with missing links on road

2012-11-14 Thread Philip Barnes
Am not sure why they are tertiary_link, they are just a short section of one-way around a roundabout splitter island. In this case I think they should be changed to tertiary. I must admit I have never understood the highway=..._link. Phil On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 21:03 +, Ian Caldwell wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] The Monsal Trail in Derbyshire

2012-12-17 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 06:22 -0800, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Someoneelse wrote: o Instead of the mixture of highway=cycleway, highway=path and highway=track that exists currently, replace with highway=track throughout (it's all wide enough for the trail maintenance folks' Land Rovers)

[Talk-GB] Routing Addresses

2012-12-24 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi I have been playing with OSM based routing on my phone, as well as with OSRM. One strange thing I have been coming across is the display of addresses seems to over use district council names and regions. A few examples, In this one, the start, finish and all via points are displayed as

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

2013-01-03 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 06:52 +, Dudley Ibbett wrote: Personally, it is good to see others adding field boundaries. I thought it might be useful to describe my current practice with regard to mapping field boundaries. In making the following comments, I would say that I am interested in

Re: [Talk-GB] Problematical edits near Leyland

2013-01-06 Thread Philip Barnes
I also spotted a similar earlier problematic edit by the same user, http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14534753 which I have also reverted. Although got the number wrong in my comment, sorry. I think the first suggestion will be not to change so much in one go. Phil (trigpoint)

Re: [Talk-GB] Multiple postcodes with the same location?

2013-01-09 Thread Philip Barnes
I'd love £1 for everyone one of our visitors has arrived via the local sorting office. Postcodes are good for delivering post, not for navigation/insurance etc. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia On 09/01/2013 14:51 Tom Hughes wrote: On 09/01/13 14:36, Aidan McGinley wrote: I've been looking

Re: [Talk-GB] Multiple postcodes with the same location?

2013-01-09 Thread Philip Barnes
The sorting office is often 1AA. What would be useful is to find out where these postcodes are delivered to, because thats where you want to go when you type it into your Satnav. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 09/01/2013 15:01 Tom Hughes wrote: On 09/01/13 14:57, Aidan McGinley wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Pronunciation of place names

2013-01-10 Thread Philip Barnes
If we were to use this method then we would need to tag a lot of road names, as in my experience these are the names satnavs use. It is rare for them to actually pronounce a place name but road names are often named after the place they go to. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On

Re: [Talk-GB] Pronunciation of place names

2013-01-10 Thread Philip Barnes
/01/2013 15:00 Andy Mabbett wrote: On 10 January 2013 14:29, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: If we were to use this method then we would need to tag a lot of road names, as in my experience these are the names satnavs use. It is rare for them to actually pronounce a place name but road

Re: [Talk-GB] Pronunciation of place names

2013-01-10 Thread Philip Barnes
Shrewsbury is pronounced Shrew, a in the tiny animal, by locals. Have just asked someone born there, his comment was its only pronounced Shrowsbury by posh people who aren't from there, and those who go to shrowsbury school. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 10/01/2013 16:18 Robert Scott

[Talk-GB] Active traffic management and speed limits

2013-01-11 Thread Philip Barnes
I am a bit concerned that the variable speed limits with active traffic management sections are missing the normal speed limit of 70 mph, they are tagged as maxspeed=signals. This page was http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:maxspeed#Special_cases and in particular the words and plain

Re: [Talk-GB] Talk - Airfields and German maps of Shropshire from the 1940's

2013-02-01 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 11:38 +, Andy Robinson wrote: Below might be of interest to some. I'm assuming the venue is Shrewsbury but you should check. Cheers Andy ICE Shropshire Group Airfields and German maps of Shropshire from the 1940's Tuesday 14th May 2013, 18:00:00 Speaker

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Philip Barnes
There are no such signs on the road, it is just the A50. I travel along it every fortnight. I would agree that we change the tags to something else, such as official_name or similar. I am happy to volunteer. In the satnav senario long names such as this just confuse when the user does not see

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 15:01 +0100, Colin Smale wrote: Aha, it's Mauls is it... He is indeed very prolific, and adds a lot of missing details across the whole planet. However he never seems to disclose his sources, either in the source tag or in changeset comments. I have spotted that Mauls

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 11:19 +, SomeoneElse wrote: SomeoneElse wrote: I'm planning to remove names that I can't find evidence for I think that it's clear from the replies to this that the general concensus is in favour of not having these as names. I'll get on with updating the

Re: [Talk-GB] Crystal Palace

2013-03-08 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 18:03 +, Jason Cunningham wrote: There is a abandoned nuclear bunker under of the buildings that might interesting to add to OSM (thats if there is tag for such things) building: yes name: Hack Green Nuclear Bunker source: Bing tourism: attraction

Re: [Talk-GB] London Tube Tagging Problems

2013-03-09 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-03-09 at 14:30 +, Derick Rethans wrote: What's wrong with names in different languages? Nothing as long as it is from a verifiable source and names should really not break the rule of 'map what we see'. Nowhere will you see Фаррингдон, what is its source? In terms of making a

Re: [Talk-GB] London Tube Tagging Problems

2013-03-09 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-03-09 at 15:42 +, James Churchman wrote: looks great .. tho still not quite sure of the difference between a halt and a stop a stop_position etc.. mostly seem to be used interchangeably and in reality interchangeably with a platform etc.. I doubt there are any halts on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Ambiguous restrictions sign

2013-03-19 Thread Philip Barnes
Shrewsbury has a no entry except vehicles over 13' 3 high ( and cycles ). There is no one way of any sort at the other end, so I assume providing you don't pass the no entry sign you can turn back at any point. It also has a street with no vehicles except for access (red circle, so includes

Re: [Talk-GB] Possible Boundary Vandalism Warning

2013-03-23 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-03-23 at 18:28 +0100, Colin Smale wrote: I had already suggested boundary=planning to SemanticTourist. Boundary=civil is rather ambiguous. In my eyes the boundary tag serves to differentiate which hierarchy the area belongs to. For example boundary=police might serve for police

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway bridge numbers

2013-04-09 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Andy Seems a good idea. I would suggest a new tag, such as bridge_ref. I have come across cases of canal bridge numbers using the ref tag, which causes navigation instructions to be continue onto A41 continue onto 107 continue onto A41 that one was near Tarporley. Most canal bridge numbers

Re: [Talk-GB] Missing place=city nodes: Manchester, Leeds

2013-04-28 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2013-04-28 at 10:08 +0100, Malcolm Herring wrote: On 28/04/2013 09:49, Nick Whitelegg wrote: don't know Leeds well enough to know what might be thought of as the centre. Leeds Town Hall would the most suitable. Both already exist, Leeds is here

Re: [Talk-GB] Orientation of buildings from OSM in the UK

2013-04-29 Thread Philip Barnes
As so few houses are mapped, could it be that mappers have so far avoided the more difficult areas? Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 29/04/2013 15:07 Tim Waters wrote: Thought this may be of interest to folks. The chart illustrates the alignment of buildings in the OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] walls versus landuse=field

2013-04-30 Thread Philip Barnes
Hedges are also rendered at higher zoom levels. Mapping hedges alongside roads had inspired me to try mapping roads as areas, not too sure if its been a success. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 30/04/2013 12:09 Henry Gomersall wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 11:15 +0100, Ed Loach

Re: [Talk-GB] Usage of lanes / turn restrictions versus multiple ways when road is not divided

2013-05-07 Thread Philip Barnes
+1 from me too. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-09-07 at 13:43 +0100, OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: On 7 September 2013 12:15, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: In that instance isn't there effectively a short footway that runs parallel to the short piece of road that has the barrier on it? Micro-mapping tends

Re: [Talk-GB] National speed limit changes

2013-09-23 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 22:09 +0100, Andy Street wrote: I'd agree that maxspeed=national is insufficient as it is impossible to tell what speed you can do in a built up area. National speed limits rarely apply in built up areas, other than sometimes on faster feeder roads. The built up area limit

Re: [Talk-GB] National speed limit changes

2013-09-26 Thread Philip Barnes
a feature of the speed limit. eg 2 On 23 September 2013 09:34, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: National speed limits rarely apply in built up areas, other than sometimes on faster feeder roads. The built up area limit in the UK is 30mph, unless signposted differently. This is implied

Re: [Talk-GB] NPE data

2013-10-06 Thread Philip Barnes
I tend to see an NPE tag as something that needs attention. A lot of the area, where I now live, North Shropshire, was armchair mapped using NPE maps. That includes a lot of roads, I am getting through resurveying them but even today I found one that according to my GPS was 50m from where it

Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Re: ISO3166 on GB admin boundaries

2013-10-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 17:25 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote: ... and to confuse things further, only a minority of areas have unitary authorities (typically but not exclusively mid-sized cities), the rest of the country still has the county/district system. An illogical mess I know! One of

Re: [Talk-GB] Advice needed for maxweight turning restriction

2013-10-12 Thread Philip Barnes
I came across an odd situation where a road is on way, except for cycles and vehicles over 13'3 high. Its a residential area of Shrewsbury which would be a useful rat run, hence the oneway. But to make it complicated, there is are industrial units, and a low bridge. Not sure of a better way, but

Re: [Talk-GB] Names on Power Lines

2013-10-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2013-10-13 at 13:21 +0100, SK53 wrote: This morning I came across a name tag on a power line. I believe this is now quite a common practice ( 8% of lines in an 3-month old data-set). Personally I deplore it: * I have never found a convenient sign on a power line giving

Re: [Talk-GB] Sources - was Re: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-18 Thread Philip Barnes
Also the area we are lacking at the moment is rights of way, these are often not visible on satellite imagery and the only way to map them is to go out and walk them with a GPS. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 18/11/2013 13:03 SomeoneElse wrote: Jonathan wrote: ... but are

Re: [Talk-GB] Sources - was Re: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-18 Thread Philip Barnes
percentage of my mapping time is spent online. If I do ground survey it's when I'm somewhere for work. Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 18/11/2013 13:15, Philip Barnes wrote: Also the area we are lacking at the moment is rights of way, these are often not visible on satellite imagery

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-12-02 Thread Philip Barnes
Not sure if its been changed recently, but using IE on my corporate desktop, there is a close button. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 02/12/2013 13:04 Brian Prangle wrote: Hi Tom What would I have done differently? I wouldn't be composing emails complaining! ;-). The close

[Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
I have come across, and corrected a number of mis-tagged UK towns and cities, which had clearly been mis-tagged to suit the renderer. City status is an honour granted by The Queen, not something that can be claimed by size or population. Like trunk roads, its quirky and like trunk roads I see

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
10:13 Andy Allan wrote: On 25 February 2014 09:47, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: City status is an honour granted by The Queen, not something that can be claimed by size or population. Like trunk roads, its quirky and like trunk roads I see it as the way we do things here

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
That is absolutely my point, we should tag the facts and leave it to different renderers to then use those facts in the way that best suits their users. We should not deliberately mis-tag to make Milton Keynes bigger than St Albans on mapnick, mapnick is just one of many renderers, a fact often

Re: [Talk-GB] Problems with armchair edits of major road junctions in England

2014-03-19 Thread Philip Barnes
The number of edits suggests to me that they are not inexperienced. Is it possible to get some sort of block until they start responding to emails? Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 19/03/2014 10:21 SomeoneElse wrote: On 18/03/2014 07:13, Filip Chirita Rares Cristian wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Document Freedom Award Saturday 22nd March

2014-03-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 19:37 +, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone As if coming to Birmingham for an OSM event wasn't enough to tempt you here; we have the Flat Pack Film Festivval on at the moment: details of Saturday's calendar of events here

Re: [Talk-GB] Not all Notes are Equal

2014-03-26 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Brian It sounds a good idea, it would be useful to be able to filter notes by age too. When notes are added, a message does appear in the gb irc channel, where they can be looked at by somebody, but the fading sounds a nice idea. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 26/03/2014

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis updated with May 2014 OS Locator data

2014-05-15 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 09:46 +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: Left and right is decided by the direction of the osm-way. Not by east/west/north/south. BTW, in Brussels we have streets with 4 official names : left/right, French/Dutch :-) Rather than left/right should we not be using

Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM

2014-07-05 Thread Philip Barnes
I am not convinced proposed highways are especially useful in OSM, until construction starts they are just ideas and break the map what we see rule. Proposed highways should certainly not render, for example I drove through Uttoxeter with osmand running and the proposed highways make the map

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-08-04 at 16:51 +0100, John Sturdy wrote: I hadn't known (or remembered) that recommendation from the wiki; but still, the Ukrainian spelling (resulting in a Ukrainian reader understanding it as a reasonable phonetic imitation of the English name) may often be very far from a

Re: [Talk-GB] Courier Delivery Points

2014-08-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 11:39 +0100, Matt Williams wrote: On 6 August 2014 19:52, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Ive been out and about and doing some web research on secure parcel delivery/collection lockers. The Packstation system in Germany only applies to Germany and is a

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-11 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 06:55 +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: Can I apply this reasoning to English names for Belgian towns as well ? Where can I verify that the English name for Antwerpen is Antwerp ? What is the source of this data? Under which license was that made available ? How can someone

[Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-12 Thread Philip Barnes
We have discussed this subject a couple of times and have, I think, concluded that displaying the ref (generally only known to local government people) on roads that are unsigned is not helpful to the end user. Some, but I suspect not all, of the thread starts are below.

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 07:37 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: On 13/08/14 01:22, Robert Norris wrote: However I am in favour of this edit, but I think the edit needs to *only* change 'C' Roads, as some B roads are tagged tertiary. Ditto. But it's a bit like the 'name' problem where a few roads

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 09:51 +0100, Matt Williams wrote: On 13 August 2014 01:22, Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: AFAIK there are some (but very few) roads where the C number is sign posted but not that I'm aware of any explicitly. Whether any of these have ever been captured

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 01:22 +0100, Robert Norris wrote: Ignoring the source information for now, but I suspect it is very similar to rights of way information in that it is probably derived from OS maps. The following overpass query highlights the issue, Norfolk standing out as

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 12:01 +0100, Derick Rethans wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2014, Lester Caine wrote: On 13/08/14 10:02, Derick Rethans wrote: It's not only C roads. When looking at Nairn (because of a reported storm damage to a road) I noticed lots of U-references. Have a look at:

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Philip Barnes
I have carried out a first changeset, can anyone spot anything wrong before I continue? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24727341#map=8/52.507/-3.796 Thanks Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] LEZ get this completed?

2014-10-15 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 09:17 +0100, Antje (OpenStreetMap) wrote: I live in London, so I could figure out a small part of the boundary based on the fact that it doesn’t go outside London for obvious reasons, and on the basis of a number of past surveys and personal memory (which I call

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-23 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 12:26 +0100, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 23 October 2014 12:19, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: The geojson can be converted into a shp file and read into PL2 or JOSM. Most useful is to use this to generate a task list in JOSM and step through them (I've done this to

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-23 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 12:57 +0100, Dave F. wrote: On 23/10/2014 12:06, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 23 Oct 2014 11:53, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Would it be worth adding a fixme tag to the unnamed shops that explains '= betting' is discouraged to add a proprietor's name

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 23:35 +, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 2 November 2014 16:11, Andy Street a...@street.me.uk wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:24:46 + Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: - 'Brantano Footwear' versus Brantano Whilst company names do not necessarily

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 17:29 +, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 4 November 2014 12:55, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: ALDI, LIDL, ASDA and SPAR are all abbreviations of their full names, in the same way as NATO, AIDS, BBC, OSM or GNU are. Whether Spar is an abbreviation

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-05 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 08:32 +, Stuart Reynolds wrote: I have to say that this is all getting rather intense. We are talking about one chain of shops! And clearly we aren't going to get an agreement on standardisation. We aren't, and to be honest the data consumer can post process whether

Re: [Talk-GB] Great British Public Toilet Map

2014-11-20 Thread Philip Barnes
--- Original message --- On Thu Nov 20 2014 11:39:36 GMT+ (GMT), Ben Pollinger wrote: Hello all, The Great British Public Toilet Map [was launched yesterday] providing details of over 8,000 public toilets in the UK including council facilities, train stations, community toilet

Re: [Talk-GB] Great British Public Toilet Map

2014-11-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu Nov 20 2014 15:22:52 GMT+ (GMT), Harry Harrold wrote: Hi Phil, Thanks for taking the trouble to have a look round! http://greatbritishpublictoiletmap.rca.ac.uk/ Looking at the map locally I can see that access tags have been omitted, those in Shrewsbury railway station

Re: [Talk-GB] Google Maps: the city of Avon

2014-12-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun Dec 07 2014 12:51:32 GMT+ (GMT), Malcolm Herring wrote: On 07/12/2014 12:39, Malcolm Herring wrote: It also appears on Yahoo maps and Apple maps, in both cases as small place only visible at high zooms. ... and on our map! http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/413600880 Its on

Re: [Talk-GB] Totesport

2014-12-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 14:39 +, David Woolley wrote: On 21/12/14 13:56, SK53 wrote: There are still one or two unharmonised tags for bookmakers: I moved a few amenity=bookmaker to shop=bookmaker the other day. At least one was one I created I'm pretty sure it was because I copied the

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