Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

2023-03-01 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
t; On 8/2/23 16:07, Andrew Hughes wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > Thanks for the quick responses! > > Andrew Harvey: traffic_sign=AU:R6-22,G9-83 seems better than > traffic_sign=AU:R6-22;AU:G9-83 but I can see why you say both would be > valid. > Q: Let's say there is also an

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2023-02-20 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
9 Feb 2023 at 12:31, Andrew Hughes wrote: > >> And each culvert has a unique asset/ref identification (example Victorian >> Dept of Transport, Structure Number == SN2252) >> >> > Sorry to be awkward, but do we have permission to

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2023-02-08 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Either way it would be beneficial to at least describe this in the Ozzie > roads wiki when its settled, maybe under an infrastructure heading. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads > > > > Cheers - Phil > > > > > > > >

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2023-02-08 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
> Dec 2, 2020, 05:30 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > > On 2/12/20 3:54 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: > > > > > Dec 1, 2020, 01:17 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > > On 1/12/20 12:18 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: > > > > > Nov 30, 2020, 13:10

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

2023-02-07 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
097 Many thanks, Andrew On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 11:41, Andrew Hughes wrote: > > Looking good. Given... > > Node: traffic_sign=AU:R6-22 > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3227568911 > > Way: low_gears:hgv=designated > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/245284221 > &

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

2023-02-07 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Looking good. Given... Node: traffic_sign=AU:R6-22 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3227568911 Way: low_gears:hgv=designated https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/245284221 Question: The tagging of the way does not use the AU:R6-22 (signage) code. Can anyone elaborate on why this is?

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

2023-01-17 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
agged on a node, or maybe a node (member) of a way, but definitely not an area that can't be defined and is not suitable to the way itself in my mind. Thoughts are definitely welcome. --AH On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 at 11:30, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 at 10:40, And

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

2023-01-17 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
hazard. It is the steep hill that >> is the hazard (where the mitigation strategy for HGVs is to use low gears. >> Same for rollover/sharp bend. >> >> - Ben >> >> >> On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 10:38, Andrew Hughes wrote: >> >>> Thank

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

2023-01-17 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
7 Jan 2023 at 11:30, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 at 10:40, Andrew Hughes wrote: > >> There are other signage like "No Engine Breaking", could anyone propose a >> convention inline with the above that could be extended for such additional

[talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

2023-01-16 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, Can anyone suggest the most appropriate way to take ways where the road is signed with "Use Low Gears"? Bonus questions... 1. In the case of SA, there's online reference material and even an Act to enforce this legally. How/Should that be tagged ref::: and how so, that this is the SA

Re: [talk-au] Adopting "AU" Prefix on Network tags

2022-08-17 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi Dian, Working with the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator and having data that honours the jurisdiction geography (I.e. state/territory border) is invaluable to us. I believe... Ways and State Route (relations) should split at the border. State routes typically form as members of the national

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Gazetted Road Routes (National, State, Regional...)

2022-08-11 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
- WAY... - WAY... The above would allow a way's membership and hierarchy to be traversed. *Thoughts?* Please let me know CHEEERS! On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 at 14:50, Andrew Davidson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 11:48 AM Andrew Hughes wrote: > > Some worldwide

[talk-au] Tagging Gazetted Road Routes (National, State, Regional...)

2022-08-10 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, I've been looking into how National, State and possibly Regional road routes are tagged in Australia. Our goal is to be able to determine if any given way is a member of a road route, and if that road route is National, State, Regional, tourist route such as... -

[talk-au] MapRoulette - Propose Tag Change Based Challenges

2022-05-05 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, I'm creating my first MapRoulette challenges as a learning exercise and they involve simply tag edits only. I found this vid that shows how to perform simple tag only edits in MapRoulette https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLlvp_3l97c Challenge is here

Re: [talk-au] Creating a Mapping Team?

2022-04-26 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
together on mapping activities in > a coordinated way. Any questions feel free to ask. > > On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 14:30, Andrew Hughes wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Would anyone be able to please point me in the right direction? I am >> looking to learn more about mappin

[talk-au] Creating a Mapping Team?

2022-04-21 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, Would anyone be able to please point me in the right direction? I am looking to learn more about mapping teams and how to create one for the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator https://www.nhvr.gov.au/ I have looked high and low, but I can't anything. Thanks in advance, Andrew

Re: [talk-au] Unclassified Highway Speeds

2022-04-21 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Thank you all for your contributions to this thread so far, much appreciated! *Please correct me if you disagree with this...* 1. So it would seem that ALL roads should be tagged with maxspeed and assigned a numeric value (kph), where the maxspeed is known. 2. Supplementary to #1. the

Re: [talk-au] Unclassified Highway Speeds

2022-04-19 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, First, I thought the tagging guidelines were "don't tag unless it's a non-default value" (my language to describe this might be inaccurate, feel free to improve). If this is true, then I shouldn't tag rural ALL roads with maxspeed. It's only those that are "non-default". *Can anyone

[talk-au] Unclassified Highway Speeds

2022-04-18 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, We're using OSM and pgrouting and it's GREAT! Something that I have found difficult to come to terms with, is assigning a "default speed" for unclassified roads (without a maxspeed tag). This is because in metro area's these are most-likely to be 50kph. However, out in regional areas

Re: [talk-au] Tagging "boundary" roads with addr:*

2022-01-08 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
follows a road it is in the > centre of the gap between the properties that are either side of the road > and that centre line is not always the paved road that you see on the > ground. > > > > Michael > > > > > > *From:* Dian Ågesson > *Sent:* Friday, 7 Janua

Re: [talk-au] Tagging "boundary" roads with addr:*

2022-01-06 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, Since I am only trying to define those that cannot be determined spatially, this sounds correct to me: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in Explanation: Yes, they do say that the use is discouraged, but that is purely on the basis of boundaries being used as spatial

[talk-au] Tagging "boundary" roads with addr:*

2022-01-03 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, In the interest of stirring up a hornets nest (jokes). I'd like to know what could be said for tagging ways (streets/roads) with add:suburb (or addr:county...) where the suburb (or other region/area) the road "belongs" to can NOT be spatially determined (i.e. typically runs along or forms

Re: [talk-au] Service Roads?

2021-11-22 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
ike you are describing > frontage roads (what we would call service roads in Australia). Rather > confusingly, the service tag isn’t the best tag for these roads; > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Frontage_road has a good explanation. > > Dian > > On 2021-11-19 15:56, Andrew H

[talk-au] Service Roads?

2021-11-18 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi Again, With regards to service roads. I would like to know if there is a tagging convention that would provide a distinction between roads that appear to all fall under highway=service for the following examples: Example A: This is what is referred to "traditionally" as a "service road"

Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

2021-11-15 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
orts, > Ports, Forestry Corporations, private mine site operators, private retail > companies eg https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18378048 > > If you preferred to store this directly in OSM, then something like your > second option operator:type:government=state could work. > > On Fri

Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

2021-11-11 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
parklands, a local > library as part of the development. If the community is gated then they may > have to maintain things, do rubbish collection and disposal ... > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:31, Andrew Hughes wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I was wondering ho

[talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

2021-11-08 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, I was wondering how I could tag ways that would indicate that they are belonging to "non-government" - aka these are private assets and do not belong to the public sector. Some examples would be ways within: - housing estates - gated communities - within an

Re: [talk-au] Aust. Minutely Replication Not Updating > 24hrs

2021-10-20 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
de. > > On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 11:29, Andrew Hughes wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> It looks like the minutely updates for Aust. stopped updating ~1am >> yesterday (Wednesday 20th October) Brisbane Time (UTC >> 2021-10-19T14\:54\:14Z). >> >> Live State

[talk-au] Aust. Minutely Replication Not Updating > 24hrs

2021-10-20 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, It looks like the minutely updates for Aust. stopped updating ~1am yesterday (Wednesday 20th October) Brisbane Time (UTC 2021-10-19T14\:54\:14Z). Live State: http://download.openstreetmap.fr/replication/oceania/australia/minute/state.txt At the time of writing this email the state.txt

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Asset ID's (bridges as a priority)

2021-04-14 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
a single bridge, whereas without it, it would be unclear. > > I think the ref=* tag on man_made=bridge, and bridge:ref=* tag on > highway=* is the way to go. > > Bob for your case I'd go with aeroway:ref=* for the airstrip reference, > leaving ref=* for the road reference. >

[talk-au] Tagging Asset ID's (bridges as a priority)

2021-04-14 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, I've found an appropriate tag of bridge:name and have applied it to the bridge: https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Merimbula%20Lake%20Bridge But I also know this bridge has an asset id of "BID7" for the asset owner. These asset id's are frequently referenced within the transport

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-11-29 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, Thanks everyone for your feedback. We would like the culvert to be an 'isolated' segment of road for a number of reasons. General (light vehicle) limits are typically signed however anything that is 'really heavy' such as a mobile crane, concrete pump or heavy freight are assessed

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-11-26 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
troversial. Thanks for taking a look, much appreciated. Andrew On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 10:40, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 10:19, Andrew Hughes wrote: > >> >> Questions : What are the correct tagging for the ways below? >> > > S

[talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-11-26 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, Apologies for the boring subject, but I'd like to talk about mapping out Culverts on (way/highway) roads. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culvert The reason we would like to map these is that they influence road usage and in particular usage for heavy vehicles. They are very much like a

Re: [talk-au] Working with local government

2020-07-20 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
Hi All, We expect to encounter the same problem at the NHVR if we begin to use OSM. My (possibly unfounded) initial thoughts are based around linking the OSM & Source feature outside OSM in something similar to a "join" table. The join might be on attribution (id), geometry or both. Then, you

Re: [talk-au] OSM Way & Govt Street (centerline) Correlation, how?

2020-07-08 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
l change our tactics and raise other questions... something I will take up on another thread. Thanks everyone for your help, much appreciated - look forward to speaking with you next! Andrew Hughes p.s. Apologies to Andrew Harvey... two Andrew H's in here and he was here first. Maybe I

Re: [talk-au] OSM Way & Govt Street (centerline) Correlation, how?

2020-07-07 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
gorithm" might be helpful but only to a point. I don't believe this is a blocker for OSM within the NHVR. It simply means we have to approach this from another angle. Thanks for everyones responses while I get up to speed. Andrew Hughes On Tue, 7 Jul. 2020, 7:31 pm Andrew Harvey, wrote: >

[talk-au] OSM Way & Govt Street (centerline) Correlation, how?

2020-07-05 Per discussione Andrew Hughes
-24 months through GIS and we are very enthusiastic to learn and contribute to OSM. I hope to be speaking with you a lot more in the near future. Thanks in advance, Andrew Hughes ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstr