I recall these discussions vaguely.
Was not one of the reasons for removing them from the map as the rangers or gov
wanted them to be renaturatin etc. So from that perspective I understand why
not having them in a map is in their interests.
On 21 September 2023 11:25:02 pm AEST, Andrew Harvey
Good point, supercharger and most likely any fast chargers do come in
multiples. As in one fuel station with many pumps.
I would take the same approach, map the 'station' first. For Tesla Supercharger
you could indicate the model which in turn defines the max charging current etc.
On 26
I agree with you here. In my view OSM aim should be to have the charger mapped
with a 'name' and/or reference so other data consumers can find and relink with
additional information.
On 16 December 2022 6:55:53 pm AEDT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>On 16/12/22 09:54, Phil Wyatt
Yes indeed, charging cost is something that is already in flux give the general
rise of energy cost and it is going to hopefully be showing cost benefits when
we charge during the day when the sun is high.
I agree that this is an attribute that is better left off since it will likely
not age
ercharger Hollydene, then that's it's name.
>Just like we would map name="Woolworths Dee Why", since that's what the
>receipt would label it as, and what you might tell someone when
>referring to the store. It doesn't stop you also tagging brand= and branch=.
>
>On Fri, 16 Dec 2022
her OSM attributes.
>
>
>
>Some interesting ‘name’ insights in this post as well
>
>
>
>https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/397565
>
>
>
>Cheers – Phil
>
>
>
>From: Sebastian S.
>Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2022 10:34 PM
>To:
Hello all,
As an EV driver I think that some charge stations have names.
I do agree that 'Tesla Supercharger ' is not a name with much value. Tesla has
names in their app for these charging stations, e.g. 'Tesla Supercharger
Hollydene, NSW' or 'Tesla Supercharger Central Coast, NSW'. For the
Me is wondering how I would get notified if my postcode would change? By
Australia Post? By ABS?
On 19 June 2021 9:48:56 am AEST, Ewen Hill wrote:
>Hi all,
>We have been using the ABS 2016 postcode boundaries under intense
>scrutiny compared to the "current" Auspost and found very few
Lots to read here.
My take away is
Postcodes are not from Australia Post and a proprietary system.
Postcodes are not great for areas, it might work but can also be complex. (I'm
thinking sprinkled houses in a rough terrain making the relation consists of
several areas that are not officially
Hi Andrew,
Have you considered adding a
ref:{Vic map reference}={Vic map ID}
Tag to the imported data points?
Or do you consider a ref tag or source tag an issue for users?
I am also wondering if it makes sense to add a clean up tag for all duplicate
points. Think tiger data import.
On 10
Thanks Andrew for this great proactive communication. Please keep at it.
With regards to the suburb etc tags I must say I was swayed for some time.
However I still feel that including the full address has more benefits for the
majority of users.
At the same time you have also provided options
Hi Andrew,
Great that you reach out to the community.
For osm imports planning and community buy in are important steps prior to the
actual import.
This is to ensure high quality imports, avoiding reverts and can also get you
additional hands doing the work.
There are different ways of doing
Hi Andrew,
Great interaction and transparency!
I have not read the code, will have a look but not sure how much I will
understand. Therefore I'm asking how do you determine the location of the POI
to be added?
In the NSW the address data was part of an area of the plot of land the address
is
Awesome write up.
I've grown up in Europe and can't recall any roads that would match coarse,
angular railway balast. I really wonder why this is even a definition that made
in into the wiki.
Are there any example photos we can add to the Aus wiki text?
On 6 March 2021 12:40:32 pm AEDT,
+1 from me too.
I would go even further and explicitly encourage local, on ground tagging to
use the more detailed tags such as gravel or asphalt over paved/unpaved.
I have been updating these tags locally using Street complete as I consider it
better data.
The rewording gives me confidence
Hi,
I have made excessive use of the node tag for islands.
Particularly for pedestrian crossing.
Splitting the road into two separate ways for only a few metres seems excessive
to me. Even when there is a several Meter long raised kerb separating the lanes
I would not split the road.
On 1
I think in the US the tiger import used such tags with the aim to remove them
once the item has been checked. A massive and still ongoing effort from what I
heard.
On 20 July 2020 10:17:25 pm AEST, Andrew Harvey
wrote:
>On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 12:33, David Wales
>wrote:
>
>> Is there any
Hello all, late to the game.
Did the meeting take place?
Is there some outcome or summary of it?
Cheers,
Sebastian
On 19 July 2020 5:17:40 pm AEST, Edoardo Neerhut wrote:
>Hi again,
>
>Andrew informs me that the calendar invite link doesn't work. I'll send
>out
>invites to everyone who puts
Thanks Tony,
I will have a go at this.
We have some poles around here where on the top there are 3 pairs of double
wires in > form and on a level below there are three single wires horizontal.
On 20 April 2020 8:40:53 am AEST, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
>> In the state of Victoria at least,
Hi all,
I've been wondering if there are usable sources to add voltage and other power
line details to OSM.
I see distinctly different power lines and poles around my area but so far I
was not able to find details about them.
On Ausgrid I can identify all power poles though not OSM
Another aspect to work on is to write down or brush up some of the agreed ways
of doing things.
In my experience this is a good opportunity for a newbie. Someone new reads
wikis and instructions differently. Finds mistakes or unclear bits.
Together with the mailing list as a feedback pool this
Hi Ian,
A warm Welcome from me too. The fact that you reach out before you start
editing is a good thing.
Similar Ed I can't comment on your particular question but this is certainly
the right place to seek advice for questions.
I myself stay away from complex large relations.
On 8 April 2020
Hi, thanks for the Strava point. A subset indeed but a substantial use.
I agree with Andrew that tagging family friendly routing is not something for
the map but for a routing engine.
Maybe there is a tag combination similar to discouraged and surface quality to
indicate the proximity to high
I'm sure you have seen that the building tag cane be yes, house, Appartement,
Garage, shed, etc.
You can also add building levels if you know the area well.
On 29 March 2020 12:12:29 pm AEDT, James Cridland wrote:
>All awesome, thanks, folks. I'll ensure I do it right, then! :)
>
>--
In other parts of the world house name or landmarks are used for navigation. I
like that although uncommon nowadays. I think landmarks are particularly
important for walking routing.
I have tagged names of large Appartement Blocks If the name is prominently
displayed outside. For that I have
Is this a temporary thing?
Or is this similar to sand boxes they (used to) have next to rail lines? (For
traction in winter)
On 17 February 2020 10:14:47 am AEDT, Graeme Fitzpatrick
wrote:
>What do we map gravel pits as? (Areas off the side of a main road, used
>by
>Dept of Transport Main
Thanks indeed.
Kudos to you guys.
On 10 February 2020 3:56:08 pm AEDT, John Bryant wrote:
>I wasn't able to attend the SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon
>yesterday, but thanks to the open-access chat, I was able to follow
>along
>as an observer as I had time. It sounded like it went
I agree that putting the building on the map should rank higher than giving it
a lifecycle or damaged attribute that hard to assess from the image quality.
This is also the approach I recall from HOT disaster mapping. Roads and
building from satellite, destruction details from ground crew.
Hi Andrew, are they (the organisers) aware of the licensing issues/requirements?
Are they following here? Please engage with the discussion :-)
On 6 February 2020 12:37:16 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey
wrote:
>I was corrected by someone off list, looks like they are planning on
>mapping within OSM
If the page has not Australian specifics, get rid of it/delete.
I also agree on the length of the tagging guidelines being too long. How do
other languages or counties solve that?
On 5 February 2020 2:35:47 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey
wrote:
>I'm for just deleting this page.
>
>While I agree the
Hallo,
I saw that you update the wiki with the link.
Before I sign up to that website to download that pdf... Are there images that
show this?
I read the text but am lacking the imagination...
Are other traffic_calming options mentioned and missing in the wiki?
On 4 February 2020 4:20:16 pm
Since last JOSM release building=fire_station is also now recognised/available
in the drop down.
On 3 February 2020 10:17:18 am AEDT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>What I was talking about were
>
>building=fire_station
>
>.. of which there were 944 in the OSM data base WORLD WIDE.
>
Hi Graeme,
I tried to fix some of the skipped ones, however only in one case I could find
a reference website from RFS or RFB. I however was able to add two fire
stations that where missing, the base map is your friend here.
Adding 220 stations via searching the base map is however not a
Hi, what is the view of tagging road shoulders and particularly when they have
painted bicycle signs?
Motorways would be another candidate.
A wiki entry for shoulder exists but is very basic
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shoulder___
Talk-au
too, and was going
>to say that I'd be happy to look into running one though I don't have
>the ability to right at this point. But in a month or so I should be
>able to give it a go.
>
>____
>From: "Sebastian S."
>Sent: Sunday, 19
Another good use case for an Australian or Oceania centric task server.
Any takers?
On 19 January 2020 8:36:03 am AEDT, Graeme Fitzpatrick
wrote:
>Load into iD to start with!
>
>Thanks
>
>Graeme
>
>
>On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 23:18, Andrew Harvey
>wrote:
>
>> How to load into iD/JOSM or how to
I think the discussion regarding damaged is good, however I feel that this is a
too fine grained quality for mapping from satellite images.
I would use ruined. Ruined can be fully destroyed or partially.
If damaged my next question would be how much? A little? Very subjective to
quantify.
That was quick, good on ya!
On 12 January 2020 2:49:55 pm AEDT, Graeme Fitzpatrick
wrote:
>& done!
>
>Thanks
>
>Graeme
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 10:14, Graeme Fitzpatrick
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks fellas!
>>
>> Back to it, then :-)
Thanks all, I will probably have a look at OSMAnd settings as a first step.
When editing the note don't bother me too much.
On 12 January 2020 9:31:33 pm AEDT, Mateusz Konieczny
wrote:
>
>
>
>12 Jan 2020, 03:18 by 61sundow...@gmail.com:
>
>> On 12/1/20 12:37 pm, Sebastian
When using OSMAnd for routing I came across the following note: "way has been
simplified using a error criteria of 3m" it is usually in green text.
Does anyone know what this means, why do we need the note? What purpose does it
serve?___
Talk-au
I use a node for most.
Only if there is a distinct clearing in the middle of nowhere or a marked
helipad then I use an area.
On 11 January 2020 8:56:01 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey
wrote:
>On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 17:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick
>
>wrote:
>
>> Question re this Map Roulette task, thanks.
>>
I often wonder who puts these pages together.
Is there no requirement to give contact or responsible person details by law in
Australia?
On 10 January 2020 1:30:06 pm AEDT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Bush fire site for Vic/NSW with OSM attribution.. but data from other
>sources
I noticed the slow upper menus too.
If there a bug already existing that I can add to?
On 11 January 2020 5:07:25 pm AEDT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 11/1/20 2:55 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>> Ah at the Sydney Mapathon a few people were having the same problem
>> with the upper menus
Sounds simple. Village details then on the residential area?
Often there are shared things such as pool, meeting hall etc. How would they be
tagged then?
On 7 January 2020 9:17:19 am AEDT, Graeme Fitzpatrick
wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > is a Over 55’s Lifestyle Village (like this one
>> >
I can confirm these observations for another similar site I've visited.
On 7 January 2020 7:30:48 am AEDT, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
>Hi
>Looking at the photos and site plan I suspect the homes may be
>demountable, that is, on temporary foundations. Sorry , I am not
>directly answering
Hi,
Similar to schools the building should be tagged
building=fire_station
See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=fire_station
On 5 January 2020 4:55:26 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey
wrote:
>Yes, this is
ou don't know you can omit it. source:date
>is
>better for the imagery date.
>
>On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 08:50, Sebastian S. wrote:
>
>> So far I have not worked out a good grid method.
>> I go by suburb in my area and keep the file local until I've
>completed the
>>
Hi thank,
I had similar ideas, still ideas tough...
On 3 January 2020 2:26:08 pm AEDT, Daniel O'Connor
wrote:
>Nice work.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZf3SJ1V-iQ and
>https://openclimatefix.org/
>may be also of interest.
>
>
>One of the pet ideas for this data I had was generating a
So far I have not worked out a good grid method.
I go by suburb in my area and keep the file local until I've completed the
suburb. Only then I upload.
While offline I use a temporary area tagged as wood. I expand this box over the
area I've worked through. This is just because I don't know any
I agree that if there is nothing marked, however my question was rather from a
continuity point of view.
The roads into and out of the round about have cycle lanes. The cyclist needs
to merge with the road traffic to pass through.
Should the roundabout have cycle=designated or yes to ensure
Thanks Andrew for the invite,
It's a bit early in the day considering I need to get there.. will still try.
Cheers,
Seb
On 15 December 2019 7:08:38 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey
wrote:
>For any Sydneysiders on the list, John Bryant[1] and I have organised a
>#geobeers in Sydney this Wednesday 18th,
Hi, how do you guys map residential streets that are as wide as a two lane road
but have no two lane marking. Typically there is lots of parking done on these
streets.
Example: https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/d_ymi7Vowzbof-WVbRT-1w
Or
https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/zMLfESC21KVBCRXu46hG2Q
If you transfer an address from a note to an already existing building if say
yes, go ahead.
On businesses I prefer to have an individual POI node (maybe combined with
entrance) which is separate from a building. Unless I know that the building is
solemnly used for the business.
On 22
So the sign is put up by the council. Is it not an official sign?
Could someone elaborate on the legal side mentioned here. E.g. is there
catalogue of street signs in the road rules and this one is not among them?
Are people confusing lax enforcement of the sign with it having no legal
If these links come from a new template that has been rolled out I suggest to
understand how the template is supposed to be used and not just delete the
links.
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On 11 October 2019 12:34:18 pm AEDT, David Wales wrote:
>The Australian wiki page has been updated with a nice banner which
What about a repair cafe? Is that also community_center?
To me a repair cafe is a mixture of men shed and maker, tinker, hacker space.
They are often also community driven/operated.
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On 7 October 2019 6:07:19 pm AEDT, Warin
I like the suggestion to add destination. This is sensible for three driveways
leaving from the same road to different houses.
I think the wording suggestions are good.
Provide a link to this thread as reference.
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On 9
I too stated that the way he perceives the mailing list and wrote about the
interface being poor that this might be due to the email client or settings he
is using. Unfortunately there was no reaction to this (as with most of the
other post).
I agree with Frederick that we should have more
I map them with access private because I can see them on aerial images and on
the ground. If the path is e.g. behind a high hedge I will limit to the visible
part or what I can see on aerial images.
I think mapping these roads adds value for everyone who is trying to get to the
particular
Hi,
I've said it before but this is not a forum. It is a mailing list. Therefore
many of your points seem to have the wrong perspective.
On 25 September 2019 9:00:50 am AEST, "Herbert.Remi via Talk-au"
wrote:
># Discussion A: Is this forum fit for purpose?
>
> “PLEASE KEEP IT BRIEF. SPACE OF
Herbert,
All this is quite a lot and lacks clear issues to discuss.
It also reads to me as if you would be writing down some text that has been
developed by a larger group and you are writing done their view?
Keep in mind that little response to your lengthy text does not mean consent or
Hello,
I think it is important to be precise in the language we use. Therefore I'd
like to point out that this is a mailing list and not a forum.
If you find the UI poor then this likely due to the way you use the mailing
list.
Browsing the archives on the list website is not how I
Hi Andrew, I fully, whole heartedly agreed.
Wiki is supposed so evolve.
Gardening to fix little broken or spelling issues.
Bigger changes are best outlined here on the list to capture common sentiment.
I must admit I often just look up things in the wiki, so for me it is mostly a
reference and
Hi Herbert,
Not sure if I get your point.
With regards to the list, my take on it is that this list is the right and good
place for any of your issues/OSM Australian centric topics.
If traffic on a particular aspect of issues is getting to much this might be an
indicator that a separate list
Hi and also welcome,
It would be good if you update the wiki once you've sent the waiver request off.
This helps tracking what's going on.
Cheers,
Seb
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On 14 September 2019 10:01:34 pm AEST, Aaron Fang Shenhao
wrote:
Good discussion,
I also think the track should be mapped.
Aside from access no I think it might be worthwhile adding decommissioned or
rehabilitation tags to tracks that should not be used to indicate their
intended end.
Other thoughts are:
- why show access=no tracks on the map? Admittedly
Hi, I'm based on the Northern Beaches, North of Sydney that is and I'm also
happy to help.
Cheers, seb
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On 5 September 2019 5:48:36 pm AEST, "Vilppola, Ritva"
wrote:
>Hi Team,
>
>WSP is planning on holding a global Missing
I've also been mapping pools occasionally.
Thinking about it I'm actually not sure what the value for the map could be but
they stand out a lot on good quality aerial images.
access=private for sure.
On 13 August 2019 8:23:08 am AEST, David Wales wrote:
>I think in this day and age, we can't
Hi Kim,
If you have added the website tag I must have missed it, too many tabs.
I did not mean to come across condescending. I'm sorry.
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On 26 July 2019 9:51:19 am AEST, Kim Oldfield
wrote:
>Hi Sebastian,
>
>The source
Hi Aleksandar,
Just in case you have not reviewed it, there Is a wiki page Australian tagging
guideline https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines
However Regarding your question 1 mayor road classification has always been a
no-go for me.
E.g. A8 Pittwater Road, North of
hing goes weird with this message, I've never sent
>to a mailing list before)
>____
>From: "Sebastian S."
>Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2019 12:31 pm
>To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Graeme Fitzpatrick; Kim Oldfield
>Cc: OSM-Au
>Subject: Re:
Hi Gream,
I've been thinking the same back when Google upped their prices.
This is what I understand and I'm happy to be corrected.
OSM (and their infrastructure) is not intended to be used as tile server for
(commercial?) Tile consumers. If you search for it OSM has in the past disabled
Hi, while I won't be attending I wanted to say that this is a great initiative.
Thanks for initiating it.
On 17 June 2019 7:13:31 pm AEST, adam steer wrote:
>Hi folks
>
>Following from an earlier discussion [1] on osgeo-oceania about
>offsetting
>emissions which are incurred by getting to FOSS4G
I have heard of rivers that are mostly underground during certain times. I'm
not sure if this would apply here but it might be worthwhile asking.
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On 24 June 2019 9:34:30 pm AEST, Michael James wrote:
>There are lots of rivers in Australia that do not always have water in
What is the benefit of including these regions if there is no representation?
(Based in the assumption that no one will claim representation)
What about an opt in/out for these regions? If at a later point in time a
separate chapter wants to form they should be able to. Or maybe the general
Well David my question originated from the address import undertaking.
As I was dispersing nodes I though why not combine all into one and add the
information via the unit tag.
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On 17 May 2019 2:14:00 pm AEST, David Wales
A pharmacy in a hospital is accessible to customers (as in patients).
E.g. when I was at the emergency department and they release me with a
prescription I can go there to obtain the medication.
Or where you referring to the 'pharmacy' where doctors and nurses get the drugs?
I agree with all
Came here to say something similar.
Mapillary has the option to indicate 45 deg to the left or right.
This might be an option for town centres instead of the 90 deg.
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On 8 May 2019 10:08:16 am AEST, Sam Wilson wrote:
>On
Simon,
I know about the reporting option, have reported some myself.
However as outlined on this diary entry
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/alexkemp/diary/172800
there have been thousands in the last couple of days.
Manually responding to so many, likely automatically generated, post seems a
Hi all,
How do you tag addresses of POI when only corner of two streets is given and no
house number?
E.g. Cnr Grose & Megalong Streets
Cheers Sebastian
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Of course Graeme, you are right. That should not be forgotten.
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On 11 April 2019 12:11:17 pm AEST, Graeme Fitzpatrick
wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 10:14, Sebastian S. wrote:
>
>> So what is a good approac
So what is a good approach to do here?
Ideally we could encourage the participant to make better valued contributions.
E.g. by
A) proper tagging
B) use of Most recent images
C) changest comments
But how to reach him best?
Regards Sebastian
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I second that the elders wishes should be respected.
With regards to documenting.
One way would be to mark the local indigenous area/tribe/... And then outline
in the wiki what should not be mapped in order to respect the wishes. I recall
a recent blog post or Diary entry regarding indigenous
When uploading your traces you can name and tag them to ensure they would be
identified as coming from you.
For this you could also have a maproulette challenge.
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On 4 April 2019 9:45:15 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>On
What about 'rock art' ?
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On 31 March 2019 11:13:07 am AEDT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>
>Aboriginal rock engravings are tagged;
>
>"historic"="archaeological_site"
>
>site_type"="petroglyph"
>
>
>What should
If you believe Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_railway_station%2C_Sydney
The stations name is 'Central railway station' but it goes by many colloquial
names.
I don't like the way the platforms are named currently. "Platform 8+9 (8;9)" is
surely not the name on the signboards. I
Yes there is a tag for short name. Don't know at the moment but is listed in
the wiki under the names site.
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On 21 March 2019 6:40:25 pm AEDT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 21/03/19 15:42, Andrew Davidson wrote:
Hi all,
Since I'm new to the area I would firstly like to meet other mappers from OZ
and put a face to a name.
Secondly my interest is then onto mapping OZ because this is where I'm as a
user and data consumer. I'm open to HOT and missing maps etc but it is not at
the top of my list.
I would
Hi Michael,
Do you have recommendations for a ODB2 dongle available in OZ?
Regards Sebastian
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On 19 March 2019 8:12:03 am AEDT, Michael James
wrote:
>Hi Martin
>
>
>
>I've only just started trying with the app, is there
Hi Martin,
Just on the last competition.
I have uploaded photos as ConsEbt and was wondering how you send the prize.
I checked my email but either did not receive it missed any notification.
The email associated with my account is sign...@consebt.de which I recently
changed to this one.
Regards
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