Dudley Ibbett wrote:
Please be careful with the ™doesn't actually exist™ as the owner may
not have maintained the access point in the hope that people will stop
using the path. I've seen this on a number of occasions.
If there's something visible on the ground then I'd definitely map it,
/user/SomeoneElse/traces/1360385
It's got waypoints in it - look for those labelled sym=Boat Ramp for
PROW identifiers.
The actual recorded PRoW (byway) as shown by OS cuts the corner
slightly, but is shown as not being visible on the ground (the PRoW
Byway route is not recoreded on OSM
Darren Burt wrote:
See the recent discussion on this list for town vs city, in the OSM
sense.
Can you provide a direct link or forward information on this?
The list archives are here:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/
and the city thread started here:
(like the Unfit for Motors question, but for bicycles)
I recently noticed that someone's changed the track between Stanage Pole
and Redmires west of Sheffield to bicycle=no. It's been a few months
since I was there (and the last time I was it was snowing horizontally)
so I can't be sure but
One thing that I'd definitely do (and you may be doing already) would be
to record details from the actual sign in a note tag. That's not going
to help routers, but it will help future mappers and aid retagging when
at some point in the future we've reached a concensus about how best to
map
Thanks to everyone who replied.
I'll go with cycleway, since that seems to be the most popular
description of it. I'll try and address the sense of 2 abreast is
possible and an ambulance can get down there if necessary by sticking
a width tag on it.
Re the other thoughts:
Although there
Ben Kelley wrote:
Most of Circular Quay, east of Pitt St seems to have disappeared.
Seems to be change 14271851. Could someone revert this?
I've reverted it. I'll send a polite message to the mapper - it looks
like a I just want to create a simple map for my hotel reception
Cheers,
Andy
Philip Barnes wrote:
On the main osm map, under the edit tab, until recently there used to be
a 3rd option.
It's moved back to the layer switcher, where it used to be before it moved to
the edit menu.
Cheers,
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A couple of weeks ago I spent a very cold day walking up and down part
of the Monsal Trail - essentially from Little Longstone to the A6.
It has been remapped since the tunnels reopened, but is in places a bit
of a hodge-podge, so I propose to standardise it a bit as follows:
o Instead of
Peter Miller wrote:
Just to say that I have added tagging and a relations for both of the
main road schemes mentioned specifically in the Autumn Statement.
Is there any actual benefit to doing this before construction actually
starts? Until that point nothing on the ground has changed -
Andy Allan wrote:
Before we could use it in OSM, we'd need the dataset to come with a
clear licence.
(as has already been mentioned by Blackadder on #OSM-GB) I suspect that
we'd also want slightly more accurate data.
I've had a bit of a look at the Telegraph's map and in places it's not
Robin Paulson wrote:
tens, possibly hundreds in fact.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-51.8629lon=-58.2445zoom=13layers=M
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-51.8315lon=-58.9263zoom=12layers=M
perhaps an import gone wrong?
It's caused by this changeset:
J.Woollacott wrote:
Colin
Is there anyway to get the National Park's boundary lines in this
format please?
The Peak District boundary has some info about where it came from:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/162867421
Which does prompt another question - is a national park boundary
Peter Miller wrote:
Just to say that I, along with a number of other people, have being
doing some OS Locator based updates to OSM over the past few days
following the release of the latest OS Locator update.
(leaving aside the Google issue)
Can I make one additional request - If you're
Dave F. wrote:
Downloading XML from the website's Export Tab appears to put a Limit
of 50,000 nodes.
Given that what you're after isn't time-critical, wouldn't Overpass or
even a split from an england.osm.pbf be a better option?
Cheers,
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I'm trying to download OSM/XML data to upload to my Garmin GPSr. Since
teddynetz stopped updating I've tried using Geofabrik. Unfortunately
it doesn't seem to store a file for Bristol/Bath area. Anybody know
where it's stored or failing that recommend an alternative?
If you
Richard Weait wrote:
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu wrote:
Equating changeset comment quality with mapper quality is total BS.
Descriptive comments are helpful to other mappers but that is all.
They don't tell you anything about the quality of the changes.
Directly
Chris Hill wrote:
We have had problematic edits from that young man before. He seems to
have changed his OSM ID (from TomPopple)
For the avoidance of confusion, and not blocking the wrong user (!),
actually the old name was tompople, unused since Jan 2012.
Cheers,
Andy
Does anyone know if the A460 is now subject to motorway regulations as
it passes over the M6 and M6 Toll?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.66199lon=-2.06171zoom=16layers=M
I'm guessing that it doesn't, and that the two most recent changes here
(to motorway_link and adding bicycle=no) are
Richard Weait wrote:
Dear All,
I recently discussed an idea for a new OSMF working Group on the OSMF
talk list.
Like many other people, I've contacted new local mappers over the last
couple of years and can probably contribute some stats to help collate
the was contacted, how and what the
Ilya Zverev wrote:
It marks a changeset than probably needs attention. The same as red
date colour in the front-end. Such changesets are mostly potlatch
edits involving ways and relations, mass deletions or other
significant edits.
Hmm. Apparently most of my changesets need attention
Philip Barnes wrote:
Select way or node.
Click advanced.
Click way/node number.
Click more details.
I think that the question was about changeset tags, in which case there
are a couple more steps:
View History.
Choose the changeset to view information for, and click it.
Here's an
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Someoneelse wrote:
Is there any easy way (in any editor with any plugin) of getting to
this information - preferably a collated list of object / changeset tags?
I've just done this in P2's history dialogue for 'comment' and 'source':
https://github.com/systemed
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
In that you agree with most of the opinions expressed on the French
list : contributors using the cadastre generally add other details at
the same time, which is one of the reasons why they find using two
different accounts inconvenient.
Maybe it's a work in
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Without the isolated clusters of buildings, how would you know that
some important roads are missing ?
Visiting the village and walking around it?
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Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Are we now reaching the crux of this discussion ? Do you believe that
local survey is a requirement for mapping ? I don't and I back my
position with all the places I have mapped without having visited them
- I'm curious about what criticism you'll express about the
Andrew M. Bishop wrote:
At the moment though Routino doesn't store the value of maxspeed:hgv
tags but if people started using them then it might be worth adding.
Surely we wouldn't want to encourage people to add that to every single
carriageway road in the UK with a national speed limit,
Andrew M. Bishop wrote:
As the author of an OSM data consumer (the router Routino) I think
that distinguishing between single and dual carriageways is mostly
irrelevant in the argument for preferring numeric values for maxspeed
tags. The real reason which I see, and which is much more difficult
sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/248 because that poor guy
doesn't read english, was following what we've always done.
Hang on - they've been editing since 5th September, it's just over two
weeks later; their changeset 13180810 contains 21976 nodes and
Ilya Zverev wrote:
1) A tile layer of GPS points for the whole world down to zoom 11:
http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/gps/
Thanks - that's really useful. It's really easy to see which bits have
been mapped locally or remotely!
Cheers,
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Rob Nickerson wrote:
The reason designation=unclassified_county_road is described as
obsolete on Robert's page is that there is legally no such thing
(unlike public footpaths, etc.. which are included in the legislation
- CROW Act 2000).
It's a designation still in use by some councils on
Gioele Barabucci wrote:
At first I thought about reading the user and time and ask the API to
give me back all the changesets around that time frame, but that is
highly unreliable. Any other idea?
Not directly related to ITO Mapper, but there's a discussion taking
place on osm-dev that
to
designation=byway_open_to_all_traffic.
Cheers,
Andy
* mostly in the East Mids - other areas may vary!
http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/?zoom=7lat=53.37917lon=-0.4812layers=B0Tu=SomeoneElse
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Philip Barnes wrote:
I have seen Byway signs in Wiltshire in the past few months.
But did they actually look like BOATs or Restricted Byways? Were there
associated signs saying take a motorbike up here and we'll nick you
(RB) or deep ruts caused by the off-road crowd (BOAT)?
In
Philip Barnes wrote:
A different colour for the machines which charge would be useful, to
allow these to be ignored.
They're in an ever-so-slightly lighter blue, I think?
Cheers,
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Adam Hoyle wrote:
On 21 Aug 2012, at 14:47, Andy Allan wrote:
On 21 August 2012 13:27, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk
mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:
Although I'd usually oppose such Americanisms, in this case
sidewalk is
unambiguous in a way that footway (or pavement
Philip Barnes wrote:
A UK renderer for OSM would be the way to go, that is able to use the
OSM data and display rights of way. Would help to spot tagging errors,
once they are shown correctly.
Well, there's this one that ITO have made:
http://www.itoworld.com/map/87#fullscreen
(but every
Holger Jeromin wrote:
Is this a problem made by a user or is the editor causing a loss of
relation members?
Have you contacted the user to find out what they might have done to
cause the problem (or even to alert them to the fact that there IS a
problem)?
Without that, it's difficult to
Gregory wrote:
I don't have an account on the forum.
Your standard OSM login should work there I think?
Cheers,
Andy
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Jan Kučera wrote:
Ok so are imports allowed again?
Back in April I made this request:
http://www.mail-archive.com/talk@openstreetmap.org/msg42372.html
and I'd suggest that it would help mappers if imports stayed off for a
while too. In some areas there's a fair bit of tidying up still to
Adrian Plaskitt wrote:
My specific question is, when the route passes down only part of a
way, say just a few blocks of a longer street, how do you assign the
relation to just a few internodes. Is it necessary to split the ways
at the nodes and then just assign the relation to the segments
On 23/07/2012 11:47, Dave F. wrote:
NCN 4 data is already stored within the relation
And (for the benefit of the tiny minority who may be unaware) is
displayed nicely here:
http://cycling.lonvia.de/en/?zoom=14lat=51.45923lon=-2.60028
Cheers,
Andy
On 23/07/2012 13:31, Dave F. wrote:
On 23/07/2012 13:00, SomeoneElse wrote:
http://cycling.lonvia.de/en/?zoom=14lat=51.45923lon=-2.60028
Nice. Does that read just the relation data?
There's an about this map link at the bottom right that explains what
it's using, that points to:
http
Brett Russell wrote:
'Java' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
That just means that Java isn't on your path.
Where Java.exe will be will depend on your version of windows, and which
version of Java you installed.
You'll probably find it
FWIW recent splitter and mkgmap versions should work OK with pbf files,
I think.
(although I still convert to .osm myself, using osmconvert:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmconvert )
Cheers,
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Pieren wrote:
What would be nice is a slippy map highlighting all elements where
user OSMF Redaction Account is the last modifier or destroyer.
If you're happy to wait a day, you could do that with ITO's OSM mapper
(for ways at least).
Cheers,
Andy
ASnail Snail wrote:
Are there other ways other than the cycle map and viewing the
attributes of the road to view the changes?
(if it affects routing) perhaps some web routing service that honours
cycle route settings and displays the date of the data that it uses?
Cheers,
Andy
Josh Doe wrote:
... However, I'd say the hardest part of using the tool will be
finding it! Make sure to update the wiki, and put it in a prominent
place (within one or two clicks from the homepage).
From memory I think that there's at least one help.osm.org question
about how do I just add
I've noticed a few of these popping up recently, e.g.:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/168528933
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/77277743/history and
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/77277743/histor
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/77277743/historyy
Dave F. wrote:
Hi
As the subject line really. I've had a quick look but came up blank.
Cheers
Dave F.
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http://toolserver.org/~osm/locale/en.html
what
Alex Barth wrote:
We're currently working with Ruben (user Rub21) on fixing street name
capitalization in Lima - a lot of the street names are ALL CAPS where they
should be properly capitalized.
Ye gods.
Looking at that patch of Lima it appears that name capitalisation is the
least of your
Andy Street wrote:
... do a ground survey to ensure that the path actually follows the
route recorded in the definitive map.
... or use a source tag to make it clear where it's come from and that a
ground survey hasn't been done there? I'm sure that there'll be places
where a right of way
Rob Nickerson wrote:
Hi All,
Now that the Public Right of Way documentation [1] has settled down a
bit, I have had a chance to pick up some of the other comments
received in the last few weeks. One of which was on Unclassified
Country Roads (UCR).
I was wondering when this one would crop
The fence around an airport here** (Bishkek in Kyrgyzstan):
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.83491lon=74.5764zoom=16layers=M
Seems to have been tagged building = yes, building:levels = 2. I'm
sure it gets chilly there in the winter, but this seems unlikely.
Perhaps someone local to the
Steve Bennett wrote:
We'd be vulnerable to exactly the same kind of attack, right? Do we
have any mechanisms to detect or prevent it?
Well (at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious) we can actually see
data that says maxspeed=0 rather than just wondering why we never
actually get routed
Tom Chance wrote:
1) Most boundaries follow existing features like roads, rivers, etc.
That raises an interesting question - how is the boundary actually
defined? Is it defined as the boundary between X and Y is the middle
of the river Z, or has someone plotted a series of points P
Worst Fixer wrote:
While doing this edit, I also want clean other tag. Also is_in tag was
parsed into a set of more detailed tags.
I also created overview.html that might help your review.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzI7ljRzQhp4VnFPVkhZa096LWM
What _exactly_ are you actually
On 18/05/2012 23:51, m902 wrote:
1. Should I add it to the (already too big) South West Coast Path
relation? The bits I've looked aren't currently part of any
relation. Or should there be a new relation for the South Dorset
Ridgeway?
Given that the SW Coast Path relation has
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Or indeed we could just go with network=National Rail as a good
enough solution.
My issue with National Rail was that, to me, (as I explained to the
Peruvian chap who's edited Mansfield Woodhouse station):
National Rail means these people:
AJ Ashton wrote:
.. and apparently we messed up.
...
AJ @ MapBox
Sorry, but who's we here? Is it a bunch of people at some other
mailing list/forum, or who work for Mapbox, or something else?
Last night I spotted changes from someone (I think*) from Peru, and (I
think) from the US -
Andrew Chadwick wrote:
Not a waymarker, but the signposts are fairly rare too; Public Byway
or just Byway is the normal wording
FWIW Derbyshire seem to have started (within the last 3 months or so)
using Byway Open to All Traffic in full on signs.
Cheers,
Andy
Kate Chapman wrote:
Hi All,
Personally I think it is discouraging. I think positive encouragement
is much better than this negative method.
Maybe there's a place for both, but one worst example appears to be
someone who's been mapping their home town for about a month, which
really isn't
Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote:
If the right of way is recorded in the Definitive Statement, then its
100% verifiable that it is indeed a right of way, and we can (given
permission to use the Statement) record that in OSM.
Indeed - but it's helpful if a source:designation indicates that, so
(on a different mailing list) Philip Barnes wrote:
Very true, and it really grates hearing Donington Park refered to as
being in Derbyshire.
Seeing that, I had a look to see if anyone had managed to get the
current circuit layout for Donington in yet. Unfortunately they
haven't, and the
Kevin Peat wrote:
Haven't been to Donington for a couple of years but the only recent
change to the track itself that I am aware of is them moving the final
chicane back a few metres as shown in this image.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Donington_as_of_2010.svg
Yes - that's the one.
Frans Thamura wrote:
is etrex 20, ok?
It's been discussed on a few of the mailing lists - I'd have a read of
those. There are specifics about X works better than before but Y does
not; so whether it'll work for you depends on what you want to do with it.
Peter Rounce wrote:
In view of recent interest in UK rights of way, should we set up a
wiki project, possibly at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom/RightsOfWay
If you do that what would be helpful would be to include some reference
to the other wiki pages that
Philip Barnes wrote:
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 12:25 +0100, Andy Street wrote:
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 02:12 +0100, SomeoneElse wrote:
... Answers I received about the
designation tagging included things like included on Notts CC's
definitive map as a byway and from a Definitive map modification
I noticed this while looking at the map here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=32.001059lon=34.825519zoom=18layers=M
The Hires coverage of Bing imagery in the Near East label is from the
name on this relation:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1298962
Regardless of the perhaps
I'm wondering what is the best approach to take with a relatively recent
contributor to OpenStreetMap. Since joining they've made a large number
of edits geographically spread across England. Unfortunately, most of
these edits seem at odds with previous on-the-ground surveys.
Examples of
Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote:
It would be _super_ good if we had some tool that would flag and notify some
advanced active mapper in a given area of any changesets that delete more than
2 features. .. I'd be totally up for checking any and all changesets in Haiti
that delete _anything_.
..
Jason Cunningham wrote:
Various available links given for checking or viewing the relation are
not working (at the moment). Is this a temporary problem, or is it
linked to the size of the relation?
It looks that way - the links work OK on one of the smaller relations on
the United Kingdom
Jason Cunningham wrote:
I'm therefore concerned I may have done the dirty deed.
It wasn't you!
wget --timeout=120 http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/69318
shows that the current version is 1751
Looking at the sizes in bytes of previous versions (by doing e.g. wget
--timeout=120
Right, (following a discussion on IRC) the SW coast path should be back
to as it was in rev 1746 now, apart from ways 30720938, 65128178,
2604800, 30337452, 22976293, 4980897, and 98346377 which were deleted.
Locals familiar with the route might want to check what to check the gaps.
Also,
There are a number of automated changes that get made to the OSM
database (bots). Some are straightforward (correcting common
misspellings), some less so (changing one form of tagging to another,
removing incorrect data*, removing single-node ways).
Would it be possible to suspend automated
Jason Cunningham wrote:
Just had a look at the text file. Can anyone give me some advice on a
way to quickly find the locations given in file?
It's the way ID:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/78499375
http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=78499375
Janko Mihelic' wrote:
Mappers in these towns treat ways in old parts of their town as
something that can't be a footpath.
Venice: map http://osm.org/go/0IDhdnwp - photo
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/28533234.jpg
San Giminagno:map http://osm.org/go/xXvzjCybS-- photo
Nick Whitelegg wrote:
Hi,
As from yesterday (March 18th) the default version of Freemap
(www.free-map.org.uk; UK OSM-based countryside mapping site) has
become the kothic-js based 0.6.
Apologies if I've missed it, but is there a permalink option anywhere?
Cheers,
Andy
Andy Allan wrote:
It's hard to see the history of such well-edited relations, since our
browsing interface will simply time out.
This should work, I think:
http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=12179
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Richard Fairhurst wrote:
(shame it's a Google map, though)
Indeed. According to Google someone has knocked down Derby cathedral
and rebuilt it across the road.
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Brian Quinion wrote:
Official languages only (i.e. ones that are used on signs in that
country)
Presumably you don't want political official languages - i.e.
languages that are official but almost no-one speaks as a first
language.
Cheers,
Andy
Matthias Meißer wrote:
Of course we know, that using just Bing, is just the #2 choice for
adding details to our database and that survey is what we all really
like. But in this case, we believe, that it is a good compromise (see
hints in Wiki). Currently there seem to be no definitive answer
David Fitzhugh wrote:
Could someone please point me in the right direction for finding what
may or may not be acceptable data re the license changes. ( I believe
its marked in red !!!)
There's a summary of the tools available on this wiki page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Remapping
Paul Hartmann wrote:
JOSM reverter plugin is used frequently and should work without problems.
It worked for me the last time that I used it (last week I think).
I'll try and revert
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10333257 and post success
or failure back here.
Cheers,
Andy
OK, done. What I did was:
Check from looking at the changeset that at least some objects haven't
been reverted or modified already.
Double-click on josm-tested.jar
(I used the one that I had from 2nd September 2011 since I know that
worked last week)
Despite the prompt I didn't update JOSM
valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Andy for helping,
I had 4223 version of JOSM, that is the latest in Fedora RPM
repository. When I started the plugin and gave it changeset it would
just hang there, I left it that way for over 10 minutes then made a
forceful close :(
Valent.
Just for info, it looks like this has been split up and made part of a
super-relation by this changeset:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1956970
With the middle bit added to European walking route E2. This isn't
necessarily a bad idea although (a) I suspect some discussion first
Michael Collinson wrote:
Back to the original thread, good news. Three of the top UK undecided
contributors have responded to my messages and kindly accepted the new
terms. York, South Wales and High Wycombe looking much better now.
Thanks Mike. Chesterfield's looking healthier for that
Frans Thamura wrote:
you can try www.osmosa.net
it is not mobile touch optimize, we cannot zoom by gesture
multiple touch and pull apart to zoom is working for me on that site
(on a Blackberry Playbook with a Webkit-based browser).
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hi someone. :)
do u use the osmosa.net or openstreetmap.org?
F
Definitely osmosa.net! - Your server will have seen me zooming into
Denmark, Western Australia from the same IP address that I'm sending
this email from about 20 minutes ago.
Cheers,
Andy
Ed Loach wrote:
I have seen ... boundaries which follow
rivers merged with less accurate river ways rather than moving the
river tags to the relevant section of the boundary way).
On that specific question, I've seen plenty of places where an imported
GB boundary nearly-but-not-quite
On 03/12/2011 15:45, Pawel Stankiewicz wrote:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Ordnance_Survey_Opendata#Can_anybody_import_boundaries_of_Scottish_councils.3F
More than 1 year ago. And nobody seems interested in.
An entry on a wiki talk page that no-one else notices isn't really a
On 02/12/2011 04:47, El Segundo Can't win wrote:
There are two types of re-mapping - on the ground re-mapping, and
desktop re-mapping.
There's also arguably a third - re-adding edits lost as a result of
removal of non-CT edits using notes taken at the time of the original
on-the-ground
Craig Loftus wrote:
Additionally the OS has also
committed to release a set of National Trails in collaboration with
Natural England, by April 2013. 2013? What happened to just getting
the data out-there?
By 2013 I suspect that a few of the national trails will have every gate
and stile
Jonathan Bennett wrote:
Then don't map them. Seriously, if these networks aren't at the
implementation stage, there's little point in adding them to OSM. Even
worse, if a route relies on some improvement work (e.g. clearing of a
railway trackbed) that hasn't been done, having the route there
Graham Jones wrote:
I have had a good go at removing false positives from the BrewMap
http://brewmap.maps3.org.uk tagQueries
http://brewmap.maps3.org.uk/client/tagQueries.html page by coding it
into the query I use to generate the list.
There are a few odd things that I think are supposed to
Brian Prangle wrote:
Hi everyone
Browsing around Burton to see why there are so many Coors Breweries in
the tagquery page ( there are 3 sites tagged but only one rendering at
the moment) I came across the National Brewery Centre tagged as a museum.
I believe that it's both, actually. It
Brian Prangle wrote:
How to distinguish real ale from industrial mass market breweries?
Put something descriptive in real_ale= perhaps?
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Ilya Zverev wrote:
Hi! A month ago we said bye to Yahoo imagery due to the shutting down
of some of their services. But it is still available in both Potlatch
versions. Did the permission to trace mention the services that can be
used for tracing (and how is it available in Potlatch then), or
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Or we switch P1 off. ;)
Eeek! Don't go saying things like that...
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