Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!

2013-08-08 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Richie Kennedy richiekenned...@gmail.comwrote: Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but I'm having trouble getting county road shields in my area to render. Example: http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#16/39.0031/-95.3842 I have made

[Talk-us] Shields are up!

2013-07-28 Per discussione Toby Murray
We finally managed to get Phil's highway shield rendering up on the OSM-US server today! You can see the tiles here: http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html This is a pretty basic preview for now. I'll look at getting the tiles set up in a pretty leaflet UI or something. Toby

Re: [OSM-talk] Double-clicking on OSM map does not centre the map

2013-07-22 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 07/22/2013 05:04 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: What is wrong with having more and better features? What is the added value of removing features? At the time, Leaflet was considered to be the better overall

Re: [Talk-us] How did this weekend's editathon go? (was Re: Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US)

2013-07-22 Per discussione Toby Murray
Not sure if this is all editathon related but I noticed a spike in Pascal's graphs of how many users closed notes in the US this weekend: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-notes-country?c=United%20States Toby On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:02 AM, the Old Topo Depot oldto...@novacell.comwrote:

[OSM-talk] JOSM plugin for notes

2013-07-20 Per discussione Toby Murray
This last week Ian Dees and myself have been working on getting a JOSM plugin for the new notes feature up and running. We started off by copying the OpenStreetBugs plugin but ended up redoing a lot of the internals. The user interface is still fairly similar though. It is still a little rough

[Talk-us] JOSM plugin for notes

2013-07-20 Per discussione Toby Murray
This last week Ian Dees and myself have been working on getting a JOSM plugin for the new notes feature up and running. We started off by copying the OpenStreetBugs plugin but ended up redoing a lot of the internals. The user interface is still fairly similar though. It is still a little rough

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-19 Per discussione Toby Murray
You aren't in the #osm IRC channel, are you :) Turns out, yes... they are still used. It was actually interesting to watch a coworker who doesn't know much about online maps interacting with osm.org. This was a month or so ago. They actually used the pan controls instead of dragging the map. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis

2013-07-10 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Another really basic thing of integration would be to expose osm ids for search. Right now when you search something you will get a marker on the position, but there is no direct link to an OSM object. The

Re: [Talk-us] Update on highway shield rendering

2013-07-10 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:44 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: Well, I've found a bug in the rendering engine. What's up with these US 1-9 shields? http://elrond.aperiodic.net/shields/?zoom=16lat=35.52081lon=-79.18442layers=B This is a real thing. Welcome to the insane variety

Re: [Talk-us] Lake Powell

2013-07-06 Per discussione Toby Murray
There was a gap in the two ways that now join at this node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/599459023 Easy to spot in JOSM's relation editor after ordering the relation members correctly. Toby On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Elliott Plack elliott.pl...@gmail.comwrote: This

[Talk-us] Update on highway shield rendering

2013-07-01 Per discussione Toby Murray
For those interested in highway shields: Phil, Ian and myself put some more time in on getting shields working on the OSM-US server last week. We actually got things mostly working but did run into a brick wall. Unfortunately postgres 8.4 doesn't support how the image data is being handled. The

Re: [Talk-us] Update on highway shield rendering

2013-07-01 Per discussione Toby Murray
This actually came up when we were talking about the shields last week. The shields rendering is actually a full mapnik stylesheet, not just an overlay. Phil pointed out that this is the only way to avoid conflicts. So it is essentially a full osm.org mapnik stylesheet (from a few months ago but

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging a super-two highway (trunk or motorway?)

2013-06-30 Per discussione Toby Murray
Yeah, to me the wiki reads that to be a motorway it should be dual carriageway except in exceedingly rare circumstances. That's how I've been tagging. So then we come back to the question of what exactly is trunk if it isn't used for these kinds of roads? Toby On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:58 AM,

Re: [Talk-us] Hamlets!

2013-06-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
Around here they seem to just be somewhat random areas of town. Not formal neighborhoods or anything. Examples: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/151609519 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/151882535 I've already deleted a couple of others because they didn't make much sense and

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-06-19 Per discussione Toby Murray
Yeah, I'm guessing interstates and US routes are mostly done. The things that might be missing is bannered routes (truck, business, etc). I suspect that state highways are going to be a patchwork. I'm pretty sure I've got most of the major and a good number of minor Kansas highways done. This wiki

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-06-19 Per discussione Toby Murray
AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, I'm guessing interstates and US routes are mostly done. The things that might be missing is bannered routes (truck, business, etc). I suspect that state highways are going to be a patchwork. I'm pretty sure I've got most of the major and a good

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-06-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
I did spend some time trying to set up Phil's code myself for eventual deployment to the osm-us server. I got a good chunk of the way there but ran into some problems. I'll see if I can put some more time into it now that I'm home again. Toby On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Richard Weait

Re: [Talk-us] Take another look at notes!

2013-06-01 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: ok, i found report a problem on the map view for housing units in an area. i'll have to go find a map problem and report it via the GUI so

[Talk-us] Take another look at notes!

2013-05-30 Per discussione Toby Murray
As I'm sure a lot of you are aware, osm.org has a new notes [1] feature (new as of a month ago) that allows anonymous users to submit random comments about our maps. Some of them will of course be unhelpful or silly but there have been many useful ones submitted since the feature went live. We

Re: [OSM-talk] Good practices violated?

2013-05-29 Per discussione Toby Murray
Yes, this is kind of tagging for the renderer however I believe there are some legitimate technical reasons why it is needed - specifically with administrative boundaries. The first thing that comes to mind is that while rendering based on outlines seems nice, the centroid of a city/country is not

Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

2013-05-24 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 24/05/2013 12:15, Nick Whitelegg wrote: I don't regularly use iD myself (JOSM user), but, on behalf of its developers: negative comments like this are unhelpful and denigrate the vast amount of hard work that has

Re: [OSM-talk] source=Google

2013-05-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
I will point out here that iD has invented a new changeset tag which I find useful. It automatically records what imagery layers you use while editing and throws them into an imagery_used=* tag. This removes the need for users to manually tag source information if they are just tracing imagery. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Strange and mystifying aka another license violation

2013-05-15 Per discussione Toby Murray
Yeah, MapQuest is obviously mixing and matching some of our data on their regular (not open.mapquest.*) map. If you zoom in to z6 or higher and then pan from South America to Mexico you will see the attribution change from OSM to Navteq as soon as Mexico enters the viewport. Toby On Wed, May

Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

2013-05-12 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 05/12/2013 03:41 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: No, but I am saying that we have a history of not necessarily allowing the complaints of the people creating crazily complicated systems of relations to have a veto on what

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER Expansion Bot Complete

2013-04-29 Per discussione Toby Murray
changesets 4,156,347 objects modified Serge - how do you explain the west-east difference in edits? Did you change the number of objects modified per changeset at some point? https://tiles.mapbox.com/ruben/map/map-13xkjfwx#5.00/37.861/-79.517 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Toby Murray

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER Expansion Bot Complete

2013-04-25 Per discussione Toby Murray
Great news and thank you for all the work you put in on it. Note that there may still be a few abbreviated street names around. The bot was not a general purpose name expander. It looked at specific TIGER tags and only changed ways where those tags matched what was in the name tag. But it did

Re: [OSM-talk] Disappearing nodes from wheelmap.org

2013-04-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Christoph Bünte christ...@sozialhelden.dewrote: Am 18.04.2013 um 13:33 schrieb André Riedel: Hi, do you still support only poi nodes instead of areas too (e.g. buildings, parks, ...)? If so, one reason could be the change from poi nodes to better poi

Re: [OSM-talk] Impossible changeset

2013-04-11 Per discussione Toby Murray
No. The OSM US server has absolutely nothing to do with uploading data to OSM. Toby On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com wrote: Could this be related to the current OS upgrade on the OSM US server? Can we get some input from Ian? On Apr 11, 2013 2:43 AM,

Re: [Talk-us] Chicago Hack Weekend

2013-03-26 Per discussione Toby Murray
I booked my flight last night. You should too! Toby On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list-goers, Knight-Mozilla OpenNews and myself are hosting a hack weekend April 27th and 28th in the heart of downtown Chicago. These sorts of hack weekends are a

Re: [Talk-us] key source:maxspeed

2013-03-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
Part of the issue here is how some countries in Europe sign speed limits. For example when you cross the border into Austria, there is a huge sign that lists what all the default speed limits are for various types of roads. They expect you to remember this. Local speed limit signs are only posted

Re: [Talk-us] RAGBRAI Mapping

2013-03-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: I know that in the past there has been some interest in RAGBRAI among OpenStreetMappers (if you're not familiar with RAGBRAI it's best described as a week-long moving party where to have to ride your bicycle from party

Re: [Talk-us] RAGBRAI Mapping

2013-03-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm... I might look at doing something similar for Biking Across Kansas. Not sure if these event routes really belong in OSM as a route relation

Re: [Talk-us] RAGBRAI Mapping

2013-03-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Toby Murray writes: Hmm... I might look at doing something similar for Biking Across Kansas. Not sure if these event routes really belong in OSM as a route relation though. They do not indicate a route that should

[Talk-us] Last call for Riley county, Kansas address import

2013-03-11 Per discussione Toby Murray
So I've mentioned this import a couple of times now. I have been taking my time with it and working with the new US imports committee that Serge started to go through the import process. But after the meeting tonight I think I am now ready to actually hit the upload button. I plan on uploading in

Re: [OSM-talk] No Jerusalem on OSM maps?

2013-02-25 Per discussione Toby Murray
Try nominatim: http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search.php?q=Jerusalem%2C+Israel Also, see the note=* tag on this node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/29090735 Toby 2013/2/22 Henkel, Paul p.hen...@kwintes.nl: Dear OSM, Want to travel to Israel and use a OSM map but I can’t

Re: [OSM-talk] Interesting cases of vandalism?

2013-02-22 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Mulone mul...@rome.com wrote: (Apologies for cross-posting) Hi all, I am an academic researcher and I am studying the issue of vandalism in OpenStreetMap (see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vandalism http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vandalism for a

Re: [OSM-talk] Comments On New Tile Layer Guideline Process

2013-02-22 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: What about enhancing the layer list by a more... option. Showing the main map layers as usual by default, but adding a e.g. git or wiki based list of layers dynamically added if the user wants. this could be a

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data next steps

2013-02-22 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: I always find it boggling that open data projects are willing to use google docs and google hangouts. It would be really nice to at least have the data in a free software/free culture compatible place like an OSM foundation

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Rick Marshall rick.marsh...@verticalgeo.com wrote: I mistakenly sent this to Greg and not the entire list. So, I'll retry it again: Hello all. I am still fairly new to OSM, so I don't know all the ins and outs. But I have to ask a question. Other than

Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetmap server down?

2013-02-19 Per discussione Toby Murray
Yes. The database server is offline. I don't know why or when it will be back. London should be waking up here shortly. I'm sure there will be a better response then. Toby On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is the server down? I can't up or download anymore

Re: [OSM-talk] Display names of crossroads

2013-02-14 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/2/14 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org: though I consider the everything=yes trend as namespace pollution. So : - junction=* if there is enough diversity to justify that namespace - highway=junction if

Re: [Talk-us] Topeka,KS Address Import

2013-01-24 Per discussione Toby Murray
See the Shawnee County related threads on the imports list in December: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2012-December/thread.html Although he only sent that message *after* doing at least some of the import. I sent a message with specific problems I saw and he fixed some of

Re: [OSM-talk] rendering of shops w/ addr:* at osm.org (mapnik)

2013-01-22 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jozef Riha jose1...@gmail.com wrote: hello list, my understanding of addr:* tags in conjunction w/ e. g. shop=* is that it is an address information extension (feature) of the shop (see the existence of addr:floor for instance that kinda supports this). it

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

2013-01-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
Neat! I think this is a great feature that makes our data easier for potential users and editors to see which makes it more obvious that we are more than just a pretty map. One thing about tags: You might want to consider hiding some. Especially well known import related tags. I'm thinking

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki documentation on GPS devices - please help answer some questions

2013-01-20 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: GPS Tracks vs GPS Traces doesn't bother me either way, as long as we are consistent. Once I'm done writing up the Recording ... wiki page I'll see if I can organise a move. Any more feedback to my questions

Re: [Talk-us] Anyone ever talked about adding more Land Ownership data to OSM?

2013-01-07 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: All of the rules about observability and verifiability apply to country and state borders, as well, as Mike states, but we include them and somehow improve them. Have we improved them? Being the last user to touch about 35% of

Re: [OSM-talk] Can Google use our data?

2013-01-05 Per discussione Toby Murray
Both of these are definitely not copies of OSM data. The trail has more detail in OSM and they are offset from each other by several meters. And theirs doesn't go across the river. It is ridiculous to think that google is going to take our data and make that many changes to it before putting it up

Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)

2013-01-03 Per discussione Toby Murray
Holy smokes this is great. What is the status of the data backing it? I see one changeset a coworker just made to our office building (new user today!) but a changeset I made to to highway west of town on December 31st doesn't seem to be coming up. This is the changeset that isn't showing up:

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Per discussione Toby Murray
The only real tag that is well and truly deprecated is created_by. Both JOSM and Potlatch automatically and silently delete this tag from any object you modify if it is present. So it is actually impossible to create a new object with a created_by tag on it in the two most popular editors. Toby

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-01 Per discussione Toby Murray
The amenity tag is way too overloaded to the point where it is pretty useless. It might as well be thing instead of amenity. Do not use it for new things. Why not just make a new tag like adopt_a_highway=name of organization - it only requires one tag to encode to encode the information and is

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: Why does imports mean not crowdsourced, if the crowd determines which imports are source-able? Crowdsourced means that we survey the data indivdually.

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, I've made a program that counts how many house numbers someone has added. It uses object history, so it should be able to correctly award the count to the person actually adding the addr:housenumber tag. I

Re: [Talk-us] Where is this way in the DB ?

2012-12-28 Per discussione Toby Murray
Are you running a snapshot schema, imported with osmosis? If so then you just discovered the same thing I did a couple of months ago. Osmosis silently drops ways with less than 2 nodes during import. (yes, ways with zero nodes exist too) This is because they create an invalid linestring which can

Re: [Talk-us] shawnee county landuse

2012-12-27 Per discussione Toby Murray
While we didn't discuss it in terms of this specific law, this does match my conversation with the Riley county GIS department. As long as names aren't used, they do not have any problems with their information being used in OSM. Toby On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Mike Dupont

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] shawnee county landuse

2012-12-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
Just saw some of this going in and decided to take a look. Specifically this node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2078174875 - I think there is pretty good consensus that we don't need addr:state and addr:country tags - The addr:street tag has odd capitalization - The building=* tag

Re: [OSM-talk] BeWelcome switches to OpenStreetMap

2012-12-20 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Tiziano D'Angelo tiziano.dang...@gmail.com wrote: Ciao Meinhard, I am a Bewelcome member since almost the beginning (user: tiziano). I really like that you joined the OSM-philosophy, as it is based on the same principles of BeWelcome. I have a suggestion to

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Imports in Riley county, KS

2012-12-17 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: Based on reaction to the mass buildings import (perceived as way too fast, and I agree), I would suggest that you have a 2 week review period From the latest time that there is either - a change in the processing script -

[Talk-us] Imports in Riley county, KS

2012-12-16 Per discussione Toby Murray
As mentioned previously on talk-us, I made contact with the Riley county GIS department and got access to their data. Since then I have been analyzing and working with the data. I believe I am nearing a point at which I can proceed with some imports based on this data. There are a few different

Re: [Talk-us] Shoreline Updates

2012-12-13 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:05 PM, the Old Topo Depot oldto...@novacell.com wrote: Hello All, Anyone on the US list happen to know how often the shoreline shapefile used to render openstreemap tiles is updated ? Whenever one of the admins gets around to updating it. You can see how old the

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] MassGIS Building Import Start

2012-12-12 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: IMO, the process by which blocks are placed, who does the asking of the user to follow the guidelines, and those with authority to block users needs to be documented and reviewed. If it already is, please provide a pointer.

Re: [Talk-us] MapQuest Open Maps now has proper state shields

2012-12-09 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 9:37 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I was just looking at their tiles tonight and they've updated them to include state shields!! Saw shields for PA, SC, MD, VA, WV, CA, and NY for starters. Maybe now we should all agree to use the proper state

Re: [Talk-us] Wrangell, AK streets

2012-12-09 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 8:59 PM, David E. Nelson denelso...@yahoo.ca wrote: I've run into a bit of a wrinkle plotting the routes of the Alaska Marine Highway System. The street data for Wrangell, AK seems to have been horribly mangled. When pointing out a place on the mailing lists, it is

Re: [Talk-us] Visualizing TIGER expansion bot impact

2012-12-01 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: Serge - Have you thought of simple ways of visualizing the bot changes? Would be awesome to have a map of that, no? How would we go about this? Will the bot produce a list of way id's that have been changed? Or would we

Re: [Talk-us] Visualizing TIGER expansion bot impact

2012-12-01 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: Serge - Have you thought of simple ways of visualizing the bot changes? Would be awesome to have a map of that, no? How would we go about

Re: [Talk-us] Address push part deux: tracking licenses, notifications, etc.

2012-11-30 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Jeff Meyer wrote: Ok... this is sort of an import question, but how do we / should we credit each imported item with a link or tie to the appropriate use statement / contributor? source= is just for showing your

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Per discussione Toby Murray
Well this thread rekindled a conversation I had started with my county GIS office over a year ago. At that time they gave me a copy of their 6 imagery which I have used extensively. Within the last 24 hours I have reestablished contact and been given permission to use their data in OSM as well as

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER expansion bot

2012-11-27 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Brian May b...@mapwise.com wrote: On 11/27/2012 7:06 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: [...] The tiger.py file contains

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER expansion bot

2012-11-27 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com [2012-11-27 11:33 -0500]: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Brian May b...@mapwise.com wrote: Another clarification for this use case: A user changes the original highway name tag from

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER expansion bot

2012-11-27 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, Toby Murray wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Brian May b...@mapwise.com wrote: On 11/27/2012 7:06 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Josh Doe j

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs

2012-11-26 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: In Alaska the Boroughs and CPDs are the equivalent of counties. I recently cleaned up much of the Canada/Alaska border and in the process looked at the counties data. I have come to the conclusion that it is better and

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER expansion bot

2012-11-26 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:52 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 November 2012 03:53, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I did look at your tiger.py script. I think br might also stand for

Re: [Talk-us] street name expansion thoughts

2012-11-26 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:29 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: It might be because this road seems to have two type suffixes: Branch and Road. But the TIGER data model only allows for one so they shoved the first one into the name field. Ideally (IMO) they should have put

Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - Progress/Todo

2012-11-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
It is great to see some good PR happening before the event kicks off! I just put up a blog post about a few things I have done to try and help out before the fact. [1] I mention this at the end of the post and it is listed on the wiki page but please do be aware that there is an IRC channel

Re: [OSM-talk] obsolete TIGER-tags

2012-11-20 Per discussione Toby Murray
Yeah, in preparation for Operation Cowboy I have tried to get a few things done to make things easier on remote mappers. I sent a pull request to update the P2 imagery URL to point at a new set of TIGER road name tiles that have all the abbreviations expanded so there is less uncertainty for

Re: [Talk-us] Newly tweaked TIGER road names tiles

2012-11-19 Per discussione Toby Murray
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EXPANDING NAMES ALREADY IN OSM! Please read my email again. All I did was update the TIGER 2012 road name tiles. I am not touching OSM data at all! But please do take a look at the road name tiles in the areas you have mentioned and see if they are correct. Cases that

[Talk-us] Newly tweaked TIGER road names tiles

2012-11-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
As we briefly discussed during the virtual mappy hour last week, I have managed to wrangle some TIGER data and do some automated expansion of abbreviated street names on the TIGER road name tiles. The results can be seen in a new tile layer. You can preview it here:

Re: [OSM-talk] here.net - Nokia's map editor

2012-11-13 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi, I had not seen this before, Nokia's map editing environment: http://here.net/mapcreator/31.786427582244784,44.3223286,2,0,0 Only for certain markets (that's countries in corporate lingo) but I just added

Re: [OSM-talk] How to improve addressing?

2012-11-09 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: At SOTM US 2012, SteveC mentioned addressing as a high priority for making OSM more usable, etc. Does anyone have a primer on best practices for improving OSM addressing quality quickly efficiently? For example, I like to

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-05 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Not as far as I know. Sad that OSMF is not taking five minutes to post the question to Google. Some contributors did it in the past. I don't think that a

Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations

2012-11-02 Per discussione Toby Murray
Yeah, I will be in the middle of Nebraska with minimal, if any internet. But as Matthias points out, most participants may be outside of the US. I think it would be good to have a few US mappers available on IRC or the like to answer questions but that might still be doable. Hopefully if we can

Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations

2012-11-01 Per discussione Toby Murray
I assume we should target these activities towards mappers of medium or lower skill? One task I can think of doing is to find newer roads that weren't in the original TIGER data and adding them in, preferably in areas without active mappers. But I assume not many participants would be able to

Re: [Talk-us] NE2 changing my work with bots again

2012-10-31 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Sam Iacullo sjiacu...@gmail.com wrote: Well all, he's at it again. I had an issue with user NE2 a while ago involving his running of bots changing a bunch of highways that I had worked on here in Texas. Apparently, he's back at it again, and it's worse than

[Talk-us] US specific resources

2012-10-30 Per discussione Toby Murray
(splitting into its own thread) On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: It's a good reminder they are there. They should probably be listed on a yet-to-be-created 'resources' page on the openstreetmap.us web site. What are some more US specific resources we

Re: [Talk-us] MapRoulette new challenge: connectivity

2012-10-29 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Ivan Komarov jkoma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Martijn, Besides ways with close ends, here are thousands of (partially) duplicated roads, mostly along county boundaries that kill road network topology as well. They typically appear as more than one roads having

Re: [OSM-talk] Standard way across edits to tag changesets

2012-10-23 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 21/10/2012 21:59, Paul Norman wrote: The following are the changeset tags used at least 100 times as of a couple weeks ago Which editor is using create_by instead of created_by? MapStalt Mini by Microsoft.

Re: [OSM-talk] Java Framework

2012-10-20 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all any reason why we dont have JavaAPI, but we use Java for OSM, and popular, such as Osmosis and JOSM? I got the Java is ? in this URL http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Frameworks What do you mean by Java API?

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Jérome Armau jerar...@gmail.com wrote: Keep in mind that we're trying to make the openstreetmap project accessible to a larger share of the population. In every single country, that means appealing to a non-computer-geek crowd. For example, the usage of

Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations

2012-10-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: Hi everyone, We're getting ready to do a major data update to the Stamen Terrain layer and I've been working on scrubbing the route relations data from OSM. I've linked to a before and after CSV, processed via Google

[Talk-us] SOTM-US venues not in the map!

2012-10-10 Per discussione Toby Murray
So I just got an email from the SOTM-US organizers with some details about the conference. They mentioned some cafes and bars. None of them seem to be in OSM! Can any Portland locals help us out and map these venues so we don't get lost during the conference? :) In particular from the email:

Re: [Talk-us] SOTM-US venues not in the map!

2012-10-10 Per discussione Toby Murray
?) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/79291038 On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net wrote: On 10/10/2012 12:06 PM, Toby Murray wrote: So I just got an email from the SOTM-US organizers with some details about the conference. They mentioned some cafes and bars. None

Re: [Talk-us] Abbreviating names in tools

2012-10-04 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:26 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there's been a lot of talk at one point about abbreviating names in the OSM database vs. doing it when processing the data at consumers end. Since mapnik now supports alternative label placements I gave rendering

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-29 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sep 28, 2012 7:27 AM, THEVENON Julien julien_theve...@yahoo.fr wrote: -- Le jeu. 27 sept. 2012 20:18 HAEC, Sarah Hoffmann a écrit : This is the real problem for us. For the sake of completeness: planetwide there are currently 152 million objects. Which means

Re: [Talk-us] JOSM zoom limits per server solved (fixes Tiger grey overlay )

2012-09-23 Per discussione Toby Murray
I knew about the max zoom setting but for some reason never thought about applying it to the TIGER tiles to fix the grey Toby On Sep 21, 2012 1:23 PM, Alan Millar grunthos...@yahoo.com wrote: Maybe everyone else knows this, but I just discovered it myself so I thought I would share it.

[OSM-talk] Any OSM social activities in Europe in the next 2 weeks?

2012-09-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
I'm about to leave for a 2 week trip to Europe and wondered if there were any local OSM gatherings I could drop in on. Our time isn't precisely planned out but here are the highlights. Obviously the arrival/departure dates are fixed. The other ones are subject to change. Budapest: Arriving here

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Schedule for State Of The Map US is live

2012-09-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi all, The schedule for State Of The Map US, Portland OR, Oct 13-14 is live now on the web site! http://stateofthemap.us/ It is going to be a jam packed couple of days with tracks covering Switching to OSM,

Re: [Talk-us] Schedule for State Of The Map US is live

2012-09-21 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi all, The schedule for State Of The Map US, Portland OR, Oct 13-14 is live now on the web site! http://stateofthemap.us/ It is going to be a jam packed couple of days with tracks covering Switching to OSM,

Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response

2012-09-20 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:39 PM, pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: The new map replacement from apple in its IOS has drawn a lot of criticism . quote from http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/sep/20/apple-maps-ios6-station-towe Within minutes of the launch of the iOS6 operating

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-19 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 9/19/2012 6:29 PM, Michael Kugelmann wrote: Or to be more precise: you need to use a lot of effort and check all versions of an object (this means: the whole planet) whether it once had the source=cadastre tag. But thats a lot

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance

2012-09-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
I have seen enough bad imports (and put significant effort into cleaning some of them up) that I like the guidelines and wish more people would follow them. Even if each individual clause may be a slight inconvenience or not entirely necessary for a particular import, I think it is worth having

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance

2012-09-18 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Eric Marsden eric.mars...@free.fr wrote: - Openness/transparency. OSMF working groups are notoriously opaque, though some have improved over the last year by posting open minutes of meetings (which requires significant effort and which I

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