Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-10-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
Tom, any feedback yet? Simon Am 14.07.2015 um 16:22 schrieb Tom Lee: > I'll add that I've been in touch with CC's US affiliate and they've > expressed interest in resolving the compatibility question (either > with formal guidance that applies to 4.0 or in preparation for the >

Re: [Talk-us] Best iOS app for GPS wander, GPX to laptop into OSM?

2015-10-06 Per discussione Simon Poole
laptop/desktop need not be more complicated that having any one of the "webserver on the mobile" apps installed. * naturally there are plenty of special cases, special regions etc. where this doesn't apply Simon PS: the iD issue is not new https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/150

Re: [Talk-us] Best iOS app for GPS wander, GPX to laptop into OSM?

2015-10-06 Per discussione Simon Poole
Besides having all the issues Keypadmapper has squared, how do you prevent IP leakage from google to OSM? For example do you know if it employs any "lock on road" or similar technology? Simon Am 06.10.2015 um 17:47 schrieb Adam Franco: > For trail surveys and other GPS recording on

Re: [OSM-talk] Geo URL not working

2015-10-05 Per discussione Simon Poole
The error just means that you have no SW/plugin or whatever installed that understand geo URIs (they are used a lot on mobile devices). In other words if you don't need them to work, you can safely ignore the issue. Simon Am 05.10.2015 um 13:23 schrieb Dave F.: > Hi > > Map main pa

Re: [Talk-at] JOSM verwendet falsche Java VM

2015-09-30 Per discussione Simon Legner
2015-09-29 23:27 GMT+02:00 Stefan Kopetzky <sk...@ostblock.org>: > Im JDK ist immer das JRE drin. Schon, aber der Pfad ist ein anderer. :) Grüße Simon ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at

Re: [Talk-at] JOSM verwendet falsche Java VM

2015-09-29 Per discussione Simon Legner
e/bin/java" durch > JAVA8_CMDS="/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle/bin/java > /usr/lib/jvm/jdk-8-oracle-x64/jre/bin/java" ersetzen. Kann es sein, dass du nur das von Oracle Java 1.8 nur das JDK und nicht das JRE installiert hast? Grüße Simon ___

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] When should ODbL apply to geocoding

2015-09-28 Per discussione Simon Poole
this if geo-coding was a clearly and tightly defined process, which, as I've pointed out earlier, it isn't. Simon * I'm not convinced that this solves anything since derivative databases used to produce a publicly used produced work are subject to SA Am 27.09.2015 um 23:54 schrieb Alex Barth

[Talk-at] geoimage.at: Reached counter limit

2015-09-27 Per discussione Simon Legner
Hallo, es ist wieder soweit: Der Aufruf des geoimage.at-WMS liefert »Reached counter limit«. _al, kannst du bitte dein E-Mail vom 2012-07-10 ausgraben und eine Freischaltung erreichen? Danke und Grüße Simon ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk

Re: [OSM-talk] running and registering an old osmand version

2015-09-25 Per discussione Simon Poole
ing to the OsmAnd devs, or, on the other hand, you are running in to an unfixed issue with OsmAnd and -> you should be talking to the OsmAnd devs. I believe the best way to contact the OsmAnd devs continues to be via their googel group https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/osmand Simon Am 25.0

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Geocoding as produced work

2015-09-24 Per discussione Simon Poole
is accidental. Simon Am 24.09.2015 um 00:32 schrieb Alex Barth: > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch > <mailto:si...@poole.ch>> wrote: > > it might actually force > such a service provider to differentiate between geo-coding fo

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] When should ODbL apply to geocoding

2015-09-24 Per discussione Simon Poole
that nobody is ever going to want to reuse. Simon Am 24.09.2015 um 10:17 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > sent from a phone > >> Am 24.09.2015 um 10:00 schrieb Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org>: >> >> and another with exactly these coordinates and their >> OSM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Geocoding as produced work

2015-09-23 Per discussione Simon Poole
ing the geo-coded addresses anonymously Simon PS: just to avoid confusion we are talking about addresses without any attached personal information (names etc), so the data protection issue is sole the linkage between who is doing the geo-coding and the address. signature.asc Description

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Geocoding as produced work

2015-09-23 Per discussione Simon Poole
d for that NOW without any fear at all of share-alike. Matter of fact you are even better of with OSM than with any service provider, because you can actually do it in house and don't have to disclose the information to a third party with all the involved paper work (yes I've ac

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Geocoding as produced work (was: Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline)

2015-09-23 Per discussione Simon Poole
a list of addresses that you tried to geo-code (successfully and non-successfully), for example as proposed in: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guideline#The_Failover_Issue_and_Publishing_Derived_Datasets Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-09-22 Per discussione Simon Poole
guideline we end up with eventually. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-09-22 Per discussione Simon Poole
on the subject at hand. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-09-22 Per discussione Simon Poole
I've added a clarification to the example in question as it is causing some contention. Simon Am 22.09.2015 um 22:39 schrieb Simon Poole: > > Am 22.09.2015 um 22:14 schrieb alyssa wright: >> What does this mean? "uses ratings from OSM " >> > Again: it

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-09-22 Per discussione Simon Poole
and then on > "Data from TomTom and others ->" (on my system nothing happens after > the click, but that's likely just a bug)). Also Apple's "Friends" app > on iOS has no attribution whatsoever. Please stick to the topic at hand. Simon signatur

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-09-21 Per discussione Simon Poole
enario. > and copying the rating from other professional restaurant testers > might even be an infraction of their intellectual property. That is really substantially off topic in this thread. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

[OSM-legal-talk] Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

2015-09-21 Per discussione Simon Poole
have to say that I'm not completely happy with the document as is, however nobody has come up with anything better. It will definitely need some more examples in a final version. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mai

Re: [OSM-talk] Portal for end users

2015-09-15 Per discussione Simon Poole
sympathetic to OSM) and the problem that you have at least one viable commercial operator in the market, obtaining sufficient funding is likely to be -very- difficult. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk

[OSM-talk-fr] Aménagements cyclables en France

2015-09-07 Per discussione Simon Miniou
de geovelo) quand on a sélectionné une ville et qu'on clique sur retour, on est dirigé vers la page stat, ça ne serait pas mieux si c'était vers la page Top villes vu qu'on vient de cette page ? un permalink serait cool aussi. Bonne continuation Simon

[Talk-at] LUGT/OSM-Stammtisch am 10. September 2015 (im Bierstindl!)

2015-09-07 Per discussione Simon Legner
auf ein zahlreiches Erscheinen! Die Einladung ist wie immer auch auf der LUGT-Webseite und im OSM-Wiki zu finden: http://www.lugt.at/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Innsbruck/Stammtisch Grüße Simon ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

2015-08-31 Per discussione Simon Poole
Hi Steve Before this discussion goes off on a tangent, which version of CC-by are they currently using? Simon Am 30.08.2015 um 17:14 schrieb Steve Bennett: > Hi all, > I've been trying to convince the state government of Victoria > (southeast Australia) to allow their VicMap

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] GADM license - any news?

2015-08-25 Per discussione Simon Poole
.28Global_Administrative_Areas.29 - AFAIK I'm the last person that managed to get hold of the GADM people and I don't see anybody volunteering to try again - people will argue all day long about legal points of any kind Simon Am 25.08.2015 um 12:02 schrieb Simone Aliprandi: Thanks for your answer, Paul. Some further

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] GADM license - any news?

2015-08-25 Per discussione Simon Poole
that OSM is a lot better known then a couple of years back. But IMHO that is something for the local communities/mappers to engage in, not inflicted on them from good intentioned outsiders. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Talk-at] Graz+Innsbruck: »Schiene und Straße wurden getrennt«

2015-08-19 Per discussione Simon Legner
festgestellt, dass sich deine Anpassungen dem Mapping von Hibenny überlagert haben. Dieser Benutzer hat schon mehrfach [3, 4] auf stölperhafte Weise das Straßenbahnnetz umgemappt und hat auf meine Nachrichten nie reagiert. In der Hoffnung auf allseits zufriedenstellende Lösung … Simon [1] https

[Talk-at] Graz+Innsbruck: »Schiene und Straße wurden getrennt«

2015-08-12 Per discussione Simon Legner
völlig unabhängig voneinander gemappt werden und dürfen keine gemeinsame Nodes haben. Mit einem weinenden Auge blicke ich auf die zu Anfangszeiten schön abstrahierten Straßenzüge zurück, aber der Zahn der Zeit lässt sich wohl nicht aufhalten – oder doch? Grüße aus Tirol! Simon [1] z.B. https

Re: [Talk-de] Datenschutz Geodaten

2015-08-04 Per discussione Simon Poole
Wer ist wir in deinem Blogartikel? Am 04.08.2015 um 09:46 schrieb Elstermann, Mike: Auflösung einer Grauzone: https://geoobserver.wordpress.com/2015/08/04/datenschutz-geodaten/ Der geoObserver ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Marking tight corners

2015-08-02 Per discussione Simon Poole
(in the case of logging vehicles there are further considerations too). Simon PS: while OT, I would suggest not relying on a navigation device to determine how fast you should drive/ride on an unknown stretch of road -particularly- on a motorcycle. Am 29.07.2015 um 21:11 schrieb Subhodip Biswas

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal requirements of permissions to import into OSM

2015-07-26 Per discussione Simon Poole
We've typically never made a fuss about formalities (aka in triplicate and signed with blood :-)) and as long as it is clear who is giving the permission and in which role, I suspect we would be happy with an e-mail version (extra points if digitally signed). Simon signature.asc Description

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal requirements of permissions to import into OSM

2015-07-24 Per discussione Simon Poole
which is usable, however has some issues particularly wrt a future licence change (and some more on top of that). But as said all tend to invoke additional complications which are best avoided. Simon Am 24.07.2015 um 18:06 schrieb Svavar Kjarrval: Hi. There are a few of us in Iceland who have

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] durée des trajets à vélo dans Paris

2015-07-21 Per discussione Simon
Cela vient de l'algo de routage de geovelo, et non des donnée osm. Par contre il me semble que sur geovelo on peut choisir son profil et donc sa vitesse moyenne (du moin sur l'apli Android geovelo touraine) Le 21 juillet 2015 15:16:21 CEST, Julien Demade dem...@no-log.org a écrit :

Re: [Talk-de] Bing vs. NRW-DOP - Neumapper verschieben zeugs

2015-07-20 Per discussione Simon Poole
99.9% des Problems gelöst. Simon Am 20.07.2015 um 10:52 schrieb Florian Lohoff: Hi, Ich entdecke in den letzten Monaten immer mehr neu-user die mit iD und den Standardmäßig dahinterliegenden Bing Bildern anfangen zeugs zu korrigieren d.h. Gebäude, Straßen etc so lange verschieben bis

Re: [OSM-talk] Draft updated privacy policy

2015-07-18 Per discussione Simon Poole
this as a replacement till such a time that we have a completely redone policy. Simon Am 16.06.2015 um 13:17 schrieb Simon Poole: And now for something completely different. I've produced an updated version of the OSM privacy policy: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Updated_Privacy_Policy (the original

Re: [Talk-de] mangelhafte Namensnennung auf Mapbox-Karten

2015-07-17 Per discussione Simon Poole
problematisch finde, es würde deutlich besser skalieren, wenn jeweils der Verteiler der OSM Daten/auf OSM beruhende Produten jeweils Sublizensieren müsste und auch die Verantwortung für seinen Teil der Kette übernehmen müsste. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Talk-de] mangelhafte Namensnennung auf Mapbox-Karten

2015-07-17 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 17.07.2015 um 11:57 schrieb Christoph Hormann: ... Von wem soll so eine deutlichere Haltung kommen? Zunächst von der OSMF natürlich (wenngleich eine klare und deutliche Haltung von dort zu irgendeinem Thema vermutlich illusorisch ist). Wenn du recheriert hättest, hättest du mehrere

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-17 Per discussione Simon Poole
if there are any use restrictions that make the situation clear or if the situation is going to remain fuzzy for now. Simon PS: the way talk-ie is setup now it refuses to forward digitally signed messages, which doesn't seem to make a lot of sense

Re: [Talk-de] mangelhafte Namensnennung auf Mapbox-Karten

2015-07-17 Per discussione Simon Poole
muss man halt wieder mal einen Strick in die Hand nehmen. Simon Am 17.07.2015 um 12:52 schrieb Jochen Topf: On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:07:05AM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: [...] Einfluss etc. etc., und dann wird es im Einzelfall gefixt und zwei Tage später taucht der nächste Mapbox-Kunde mit

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Talk-ie Digest, Vol 74, Issue 10

2015-07-17 Per discussione Simon Poole
read the Eircode off their business card. On 17 July 2015 11:30:55 GMT+01:00, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: What better way to ignore than come to the conclusion that the data can't be included in OSM and needs to be removed when it turns up? Whatever the merits or de-merits

[OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

2015-07-16 Per discussione Simon Poole
, and naturally if anybody can provide pointers to relevant specific legislation or any other relevant material that would be welcome too. Simon ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Per discussione Simon Poole
are referring to data derived from the imagery, not the imagery itself. Simon Am 13.07.2015 um 12:54 schrieb Ivan Garcia: Hi Simon. Thanks for the answer. Just an extra quesiton, doesn't a CC-BY license already allows derivative work of any kind as long as the author is mentioned? Why would

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Per discussione Simon Poole
from previous discussions, not clear if the CC 4.0 licences are compatible (with the exception of CC0 naturally) with the ODbL and this is likely not an issue that will be resolved short term. Simon Am 08.07.2015 um 14:48 schrieb Ivan Garcia: Hi everybody, the government of Indonesia recently

Re: [OSM-talk] Replication broken?

2015-07-12 Per discussione Simon Poole
There was an event of some kind at 20:00 BST which led to a number of machines rebooting and other not so good stuff, it is being looked in to. Simon Am 12.07.2015 um 22:20 schrieb Walter Nordmann: Hi, about 2 hours ago the osmosis replpcation using planet minute diffs seems to be broken

Re: [OSM-talk] Replication broken?

2015-07-12 Per discussione Simon Poole
Replcation has been back for a while, ramoth didn't come back up on its own and had to be booted by Tom. Simon Am 12.07.2015 um 22:39 schrieb Simon Poole: There was an event of some kind at 20:00 BST which led to a number of machines rebooting and other not so good stuff, it is being looked

Re: [Talk-de] Uber kauft Karten-Technologie von Microsoft

2015-06-30 Per discussione Simon Poole
Wird man dann sehen ... ansonsten sind die Bilder von Mapbox meistens ein guter Ersatz (in beiden Fällen stammen ja die Aufnahmen von DigitalGlobe und Mapbox scheint sie etwas besser zu pflegen). Simon Am 30.06.2015 um 22:09 schrieb Eifelhunde: Können wir das weiter benutzen wenn BING

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM data without modifying - are there any guidelines?

2015-06-29 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 29.06.2015 um 17:00 schrieb John Bergmayer: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 17:55:08 +0200, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: A condition of having a valid licence to use OSM data is providing a suitable way of pointing out the conditions of use of said data to your users/customers/etc (which

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM data without modifying - are there any guidelines?

2015-06-29 Per discussione Simon Poole
Well the more basic question is: would you in the end have a marketable product that you could sell in places where people actually have money? And the answer is likely no. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk

[Talk-at] LUGT/OSM-Stammtisch Innsbruck im Juli und August 2015

2015-06-29 Per discussione Simon Legner
Innsbrucker Straße 4, 6176 Völs Wir freuen uns auf ein zahlreiches Erscheinen! Die Einladung ist wie immer auch auf der LUGT-Webseite und im OSM-Wiki zu finden: http://www.lugt.at/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Innsbruck/Stammtisch Grüße Simon

Re: [OSM-talk] Mappers and apps should focus on relations at the very start

2015-06-28 Per discussione Simon Poole
and there will be a lot of stuff that will never be migrated. And that all without actual gain in what we can model in OSM. Simon * note: for large areas I would consider Zveriks area references a good solution that would generalize and replace the current magic tags (coastline and others) and could

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM data without modifying - are there any guidelines?

2015-06-27 Per discussione Simon Poole
are enshrined in the following places: http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Community_Guidelines Simon Am 27.06.2015 um 10:23 schrieb Richard Fairhurst: Simon Poole wrote: As the name of this list says

Re: [OSM-talk] Draft updated privacy policy

2015-06-27 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 18.06.2015 um 18:16 schrieb Greg Troxel: Simon Poole si...@poole.ch writes: I've produced an updated version of the OSM privacy policy: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Updated_Privacy_Policy (the original resides here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy). I have

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM data without modifying - are there any guidelines?

2015-06-27 Per discussione Simon Poole
. Simon PS: I really don't think the OSMF will go after anybody for publishing a list of OSM ids :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM data without modifying - are there any guidelines?

2015-06-26 Per discussione Simon Poole
be an issue) on request. 3) the problem is that doing it in the proposed way is technical nonsense so I'm not sure if it makes any sense to burn brain power to discuss it further (OSM object IDs are not stable references). Simon Am 26.06.2015 um 09:34 schrieb Jan Erik Solem: Hi legal-talk people

Re: [Talk-de] Openlandscapemap ohne Lizenzhinweis

2015-06-26 Per discussione Simon Poole
Die Tiles sind von gravitystorm aka Andy Alan .. ich stupf ihn mal. Simon Am 26.06.2015 um 11:29 schrieb Michael Paulmann: Hallo! Ich habe openlandscapemap auf Gaia GPS entdeckt und die Karte wird immer ohne unseren Lizenzhinweis verwendet. Wie weisst man die Betreiber jetzt darauf hin

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM data without modifying - are there any guidelines?

2015-06-26 Per discussione Simon Poole
from the licensor of the data and then moaning for years on end because they didn't get it. Or put differently there is no obligation at all to answer questions here, some might get an answer some not, YMMV. Simon, is there a place where guidance issued from the @osmfoundation.org http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using OSM data without modifying - are there any guidelines?

2015-06-26 Per discussione Simon Poole
that should the OSM database not be found to be worthy of sui generis database protection (a distinct possibility), the ODbL would clearly be enforceable based on contract law. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Sous relations itinéraires cyclables

2015-06-26 Per discussione Simon
Mon avis perso Le 26 juin 2015 10:58:48 CEST, GaelADT gael.sauva...@gmail.com a écrit : J'essaye de résumer les discussions que l'on a eu avec notre stagiaire. Je rappelle qu'il s'agit de relations de plusieurs centaines de km : 1) Il serait possible d'avoir une relation avec uniquement des ways

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rendu OSM avec dénivelé?

2015-06-24 Per discussione Simon
Perso j'utilise geovelo.fr sur Tours pour le velotaf. Mais ça ne couvre pas toute la france Le 24 juin 2015 13:26:02 CEST, Shohreh codecompl...@free.fr a écrit : Bruno wrote Il n'affiche pas la carte en topo mais en cliquant sur la petite montagne sous route tools tu as le dessin du dénivelé.

[OSM-talk-fr] Umap down ?

2015-06-22 Per discussione Simon Miniou
Merci ;) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr

[OSM-talk-fr] Umap down ?

2015-06-22 Per discussione Simon Miniou
Merci dans le sens merci ça fonctionne bien ;) et un merci plus global pour le projet !! Simon On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:40:44AM +0200, Simon Miniou wrote: * Merci ;) * umap a l'air de marcher vu d'ici. Tu peux retenter ? -- Jocelyn ___ Talk-fr

[OSM-talk-fr] Umap down ?

2015-06-20 Per discussione Simon Miniou
Bonjour, je ne sais pas si c'est normal ou si quelqu'un a vu qu'Umap semble en rade. Simon ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr

[Talk-de] Draft updated privacy policy

2015-06-16 Per discussione Simon Poole
Historisch war Datenschutz in der Deutschen Community immer ein heisses Thema, deshalb einen speziellen Verweis auf https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2015-June/073347.html hier. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-16 Per discussione Simon Poole
negative aspects, but that again is a different topic). Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Draft updated privacy policy

2015-06-16 Per discussione Simon Poole
added to the discussion page. Please keep the scope of any comments limited to the changes and not to untouched original text, one day there will be a complete rewrite and that will be the time to address any other issues. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-15 Per discussione Simon Poole
if you could convince android to at least offer the option of starting Mapillary instead of Streetview. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[Talk-at] LUGT/OSM-Stammtisch Innsbruck am 18. Juni 2015

2015-06-15 Per discussione Simon Legner
zu finden: http://www.lugt.at/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Innsbruck/Stammtisch Grüße Simon ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-15 Per discussione Simon Poole
as a newbie recruiting events is perhaps not such a good idea and after a considerable number of issues labelled a lot of the tasks explicitly for experienced mappers which is likely the way it should be. Simon Am 15.06.2015 um 17:33 schrieb Kate Chapman: Simon, Can you explain to me who the core OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-15 Per discussione Simon Poole
. I see no problem with that, I liken OSM to the tortoise in the fable.* Simon * I have at other times shown https://youtu.be/TdUsyXQ8Wrs as a introduction particularly when competition has been present :-). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-15 Per discussione Simon Poole
for the above to the journalists is in any way fair. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-14 Per discussione Simon Poole
, just conveniently ignored. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-14 Per discussione Simon Poole
in such activities however well intentioned they may be, but I'll leave that for an other day. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-14 Per discussione Simon Poole
to settle this argument. As said the body of evidence points one way and more can't really be said. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-06-11 Per discussione Simon Poole
Randy, I just want to point out that there is an existing and well established OSM-based service that already supplies worldwide boundaries in a number of formats https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/ . Further the operator runs daily quality checks on changes in the boundaries. Simon Am

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-06-11 Per discussione Simon Poole
It supports at least down to level 11, simply click on the entries and it will display sub-boundaries and so on. Not that there isn't room for further parallel services, but this wasn't actually a vacuum :-). In particular anything helping improving boundaries in the US is a good thing. Simon

Re: [OSM-talk] (licence of wikidata) was: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-06-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
the WMF, nor does the above touch on the ethical aspects of copying from a third party, potentially a competitor, without explicit permission and potentially in violation of contractual terms of use/service. Simon Am 07.06.2015 um 18:40 schrieb SomeoneElse: On 07/06/2015 12:43, Simon Poole wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-06-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
) for collections of facts. tl;dr version: linking to wikidata is probably ok, including wikidata could be a minefield. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-06-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
and such data will be removed if identified. This isn't a panacea, but given the US DCMA and similar laws in other countries, probably good enough. There is AFAIK no such policy by the WMF, and as I said their (marketing) policy is that the problem can't exist. SImon signature.asc Description

Re: [OSM-talk] (licence of wikidata) was: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-06-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
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Re: [OSM-talk] Neat use of OpenStreetMap

2015-05-28 Per discussione Simon Poole
which kinds of makes them redundant. Simon Am 28.05.2015 um 11:21 schrieb Paul Johnson: OpenBMap http://radiocells.org/ It's similar to Google's location services or Mozilla's location service, but free. You can make use of it as a location provider in Android using the OpenBMap plugin https

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki link to Mailing lists and IRC on Get Help Page

2015-05-25 Per discussione Simon Poole
While not totally on topic, I would like to point out that the Help tab on openstreetmap.org contains direct links to the mailing lists, forums etc. (since a couple of weeks) making having them far up in the hierarchy on the wiki less of an issue. Simon Am 25.05.2015 um 15:30 schrieb Clifford

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [RER B] Pourquoi noms gares Parc de Sceaux et Croix de Berny pas affichées?

2015-05-21 Per discussione Gaël Simon
Bonjour Florian, concernant la gare Saint Lazare, je ne trouve pas de railway=station correspondant. Et tu as supprimé ce tag du bâtiment hier. L'as-tu bien recréé autre part ? Merci Gaël Le 20 mai 2015 à 19:33, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr a écrit : Hello, J'en ai trouvé d'autres en

Re: [OSM-talk] Portal for users/casual mappers (Re: Tagging FOR the renderer)

2015-05-19 Per discussione Simon Poole
of arm chairing and mechanical edits for me. Yes there are a few mappers up there with the bots but I don't believe that they are particularly relevant. On 19. Mai 2015 01:57:31 MESZ, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote

Re: [Talk-ca] Calgary Area Trail Mapping Project

2015-05-19 Per discussione simon
cycle trails thrown in. Simon. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [OSM-talk] Portal for users/casual mappers (Re: Tagging FOR the renderer)

2015-05-18 Per discussione Simon Poole
essentially all (roughly 95%) data to OSM. The long tail is not unimportant, but from a pure volume point of view OSM is very dependent on its core contributors. Not that this is a surprise or different than any other similar enterprise. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging FOR the renderer

2015-05-17 Per discussione Simon Poole
objects on a map with uMap is reasonably easy and in the mean time something fairly popular even with people without a deep technical background. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https

[OSM-talk] Widespread (but oldish) wiki spamming needs fixing

2015-05-16 Per discussione Simon Poole
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BardicMa Due to the age of the edits they cause conflicts so need to be undone manually. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] iD name suggestion index - asking non-English-speaking mappers to review

2015-05-16 Per discussione Simon Poole
Th other question is: do we actually want to support (as in suggest spelling) non-chain names or not? Currently the majority of at least the restaurant names do not belong to chains, they are simply frequently used names. Simon Am 16.05.2015 um 20:07 schrieb Michał Brzozowski: https

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What extra permissions are needed to include CC-BY data in OSM

2015-05-13 Per discussione Simon Poole
. Though my concern is not mainly about the requirement itself, it is simply that the concept of a collective database seems to be incompatible with the current text of CC by 4.0. Now I know how I would weasel myself out of this if I was CC, but I'm not, so lets see what they say. Simon

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What extra permissions are needed to include CC-BY data in OSM

2015-05-12 Per discussione Simon Poole
in Washington, DC -- I've reached out to see if they might be able to help. Any sucess/feedback? Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [OSM-talk] Icons for most popular items on default map

2015-05-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
Have you looked at http://osm-icons.org/ at all for inspiration? While some of them maybe a bit too detailed, I've used them together with the original SJJB ones for https://github.com/simonpoole/beautified-JOSM-preset with quite good results. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] [Wiki Talk] Why OSM and not another collaborative mapping service?

2015-05-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
to degenerate in to political/point of view material, are all commercial companies actually evil as Xxzme version seems to imply? Simon Am 07.05.2015 um 03:59 schrieb jgpacker: I call people to review the wiki page Why OSM and not another collaborative mapping service?. link: http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What extra permissions are needed to include CC-BY data in OSM

2015-05-06 Per discussione Simon Poole
Material is essentially a derivative Work, or using ODbL terms a derivative database. The CC-BY terms would however seem to make it impossible to create an ODbL collective database from an OSM dataset including CC-BY material. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What extra permissions are needed to include CC-BY data in OSM

2015-05-06 Per discussione Simon Poole
that aspect does not seem to be very high on the priority list of anybody. Simon Am 06.05.2015 um 11:25 schrieb Simon Poole: Am 05.05.2015 um 11:27 schrieb Andrew Harvey: ... My question was does CC-BY 4.0 have the same issue? Could CC-BY 4.0 data be included in OSM. ... My, very conservative

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What extra permissions are needed to include CC-BY data in OSM

2015-05-06 Per discussione Simon Poole
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Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-05-05 Per discussione Simon . Costello
of national foundation spatial datasets - so there is even greater imperative to have OSM involved in those discussions. The use cases included in the email trail are excellent examples of the need to get this sorted. Thanks, Simon Simon Costello Branch Head, National Location Information | EGD

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoHipster comment on OSM

2015-05-04 Per discussione Simon Poole
where ever possible (for example on switch2osm.org), And if OSM would ever choose to change its business model, see above, it would be defunct anyway. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk

[Talk-at] LUGT/OSM-Stammtisch Innsbruck am 7. Mai 2015

2015-05-04 Per discussione Simon Legner
Einladung ist wie immer auch auf der LUGT-Webseite und im OSM-Wiki zu finden: http://www.lugt.at/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Innsbruck/Stammtisch Grüße Simon ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoHipster comment on OSM

2015-05-03 Per discussione Simon Poole
See https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/963 for the PR. Simon Am 01.05.2015 um 11:26 schrieb Simon Poole: I was actually going to suggest something along such lines given that both the Help and About pages are not particularly well used. But didn't want to get

Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?

2015-05-01 Per discussione Simon Poole
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