Re: [Talk-GB] What is a residential area?

On 07/05/2019 11:11, Martin Wynne wrote: What is a "residential area" in the iD editor? How many dwellings are needed in what proximity to become one? Is it a physical plot of land on which at least one person lives? Or the usual meaning of a village/hamlet/housing estate/suburb where a number

Re: [Talk-GB] New Bridge Gunnislake

Of course, that was one of my concerns. We really need some sort of lifetime tagging with an end-date. You can use opening hours to indicate a period in which something is closed. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Common Land has stopped rendering

On 18/03/2019 14:03, Martin Wynne wrote: If you suggest to someone that they try OSM instead of Google maps, the standard Carto map is what they arrive at from search engines: How do you propose funding such a service? ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Common Land has stopped rendering

On 18/03/2019 13:06, John Aldridge wrote: For many people, the *point* of OSM is that it's a better version of Google maps. If data is not visible on the 'front page' rendering, it might as well not be there. OSM doesn't have a business model that supports that usage. It is not something

Re: [Talk-GB] Common Land has stopped rendering

On 16/03/2019 13:23, SK53 wrote: OSM tagging is not analogous to the syntax and semantics of a computer language or API. Whilst there is possibly a valid point about Plain English, OSM tagging is, very much, a computer API, albeit one where the semantics are fuzzy.

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

On 15/03/2019 01:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: AFAIA, neither tag had any impied permissions or condition attributes. They do, and they are country specific.

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of Argos stores

On 10/03/2019 14:58, Donald Noble wrote: I suspect shop=catalogue is probably the best option for a normal Argos store, but just wondering: a) if anything special is needed when it is just a counter in another store (given that this is pretty much all there is own the other shops, b) if there

Re: [Talk-GB] How to map new housing?

On 08/03/2019 11:23, Lester Caine wrote: One source of information that I use is the planning application. Although it may also be necessary to ask the builders if you can use it directly. It's a useful background on josm ... when combined with a GPS walk around. Planning applications are

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking closed businesses

On 07/03/2019 09:47, Jon Spriggs wrote: Near where I am are some mapped businesses properties which have closed, primarily shops, but also a couple of restaurants. There is more than one common way of doing this. Is the building exclusively used by the business? If not, I would map the

Re: [Talk-GB] DoBIH Update - Permission Received

On 23/02/2019 16:05, Silent Spike wrote: but I have always understood that heights and grid references are scientific fact and as such are not copyrightable. There is explicit legislation in the UK that establishes database rights and it is actually those, rather than copyrights, that are the

Re: [Talk-GB] GPS longboat positioning

On 05/02/2019 19:43, BD wrote: Does anyone know if such is already possible using OSM + plugins etc? I've had a quick look online but most advice refers to Google maps. Most of the rest gets very technical very quickly. Goes over my head. I think you are confusing OSM with the tools used to

Re: [Talk-GB] Dropped or lowered kerbs

On 31/01/2019 10:33, Andy Mabbett wrote: I am looking to tag dropped kerbs in two circumstances; in places that look like this: https://goo.gl/maps/UnBiAsxgCFR2 Sometimes, there are two crossings adjacent, or nearly adjacent, making a place convenient as an informal crossing point for

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

On 27/01/2019 21:21, Colin Smale wrote: OrganisationOrganisation Name 60 n/a Department Name 60 n/a PremisesSub Building Name 30 addr:unit Building Name 50 addr:housename Building Number 4

Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

On 15/01/2019 12:00, Martin Wynne wrote: Given that they are part of the public highway, it's puzzling why the Environment Agency feels the need to compulsorily acquire the rights to pass and repass over them? And what about the rest of us? Is it usual for small areas of tarmac in the public

Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

On 14/01/2019 09:03, Jez Nicholson wrote: I have summarised this discussion at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Property_extents_in_the_United_Kingdom "A property owner is legally required to maintain property boundaries such as fences. This is intended to minimise disputes. So, being

Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

On 10/01/2019 00:18, Warin wrote: Even if it were open .. does OSM want it? I don't see any specific tags for it? landuse=residential combined with addr:* It is something I would definitely want included if it were possible to capture the data. The main reason it is rare at the moment is

Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

On 09/01/2019 09:36, Rob Nickerson wrote: It is the land area (e.g. garden boundary of a detached house) rather than the building outline. They deem the building outline to have too high a commercial value under their current funding mechanism. Actually, that seems more valuable to OSM than

Re: [Talk-GB] Changing highway=ford to ford=yes.

On 07/01/2019 12:37, Mike Baggaley wrote: I think that if an intersecting highway and waterway are mapped just as lines, then these represent the full width of the highway and waterway and it is illogical to use a line or area to represent the ford. If either the highway or waterway is mapped

Re: [Talk-GB] Using data from OS maps

On 30/11/2018 11:49, Dave F wrote: It's OS's lazy/arrogant/corrupt business model which prompted me to start contributing to OSM. I imagine that OS are in a difficult business because their core business is fixed, but they are obliged, by de-nationalisation, to try and create a business

Re: [Talk-GB] Using data from OS maps

On 30/11/2018 10:29, Philip Withnall wrote: An enthusiastic new contributor in the Lakes area has admitted using OS Unfortunately, I think there are an awful lot of enthusiasts around who think it is more important that their pet subject is mapped than that they should understand IPR rules.

Re: [Talk-GB] Network tag on railway stations

In the UK, the rails may be operated by Network Rail, the platform by one train operating company and a particular train using that platform, by a different train operating company. When you add rapid transit systems (incidentally, is Merseyrail really one of these, rather than part of

Re: [Talk-GB] Network tag on railway stations

On 17/11/18 09:09, Lester Caine wrote: The line north should be tagged operator=Northern My understanding is that all tracks used for public rail services (but not metropolitan rapid transit systems), in the UK, are operated by Network Rail. The train operating companies only operate the

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

On 09/11/18 16:27, Will Phillips wrote: Sources such as Companies House don't validate their addresses, so this total will certainly include some proportion that are incorrect. Most sources that do validate ask the user for the postcode an then to select the address from the valid ones on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

On 09/11/18 11:34, David Woolley wrote: if you are only dealing with centroids, I think many have been mapped already, <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=uk_postcode_centroid> indicates that at least 2500 have been mapped. ___ T

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

On 09/11/18 09:09, Phoenix830 wrote: They have confirmed that this data is released under the Open Government Licence http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/2/ . There is a gotcha in the OGL regarding restricted upstream sources, so OGL is probably not

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

On 26/09/18 14:49, Tobias Zwick wrote: Thank you for the answers given. Perhaps there are some misunderstandings, so I want to clarify two points: 1. A HGV is defined as a vehicle with a max allowable mass of above 3.5t, even in the UK. Tagging "hgv=no" when seeing this sign is plain incorrect,

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

In that specific case (7.5T), which is the most common, it would be hgv=no, as that is the defining maximum authorised mass for an HGV. I'd consider maxweight, for higher limits. The traditional UK term is Gross Weight, but the, more scientifically correct, term now used, in formal

Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

On 07/09/18 10:47, Martin Wynne wrote: The great advantage of this definition for mapping is that it is an undisputed fact, on the ground. You put lots of caveats into this, which leads lots of grounds for disputes. One thing to remember is that OSM is international and the

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Shropshire's rights of way

On 04/09/18 10:55, James wrote: The officer confirmed that Rights of Way data was in the public domain for any use. That's a bad sign, as it indicates that they don't understand UK intellectual property law. They only way that database rights can lapse into the public domain is through the

Re: [Talk-GB] un-named roads in UK

On 29/08/18 21:21, Jubal Harpster wrote: Rosneath Castle Caravan Park https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/92291906 _https://goo.gl/maps/5zn1EEXwYER2_ _https://binged.it/2BCrYOr_ OSM has the name on the actual caravan park, which sounds more likely:

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

On 29/08/18 20:25, Toby Speight wrote: Thanks for that - it predates my joining this list. It seems to (partially) answer only my first question - it's to benefit those who don't like their rendering (on paper/screen or on a navigation device). That's why we have rendering rules - if you don't

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

On 28/08/18 12:54, webmas...@killyfole.org.uk wrote: The objection is that you are undoing the effort and time spent by mappers The data has not been destroyed, just more correctly tagged. In general most of this information can only be obtained from armchairs, so it is irrelevant as to

Re: [Talk-GB] When is a hedge a wood?

On 27/08/18 04:20, Chris Jones wrote: 1) The boundary is is clearly a fence. Thats what stops you just walking across. Also OSM should not pretend to indicate legal boundaries. In fact, in the real world, these can be quite fuzzy, as they depend on verbal descriptions, or rough maps from

Re: [Talk-GB] boundary mania

On 26/08/18 20:01, Frederik Ramm wrote: I think we should all think twice before duplicating and triplicating data in OSM just because there's yet another boundary that includes Hampshire. We should find a way to reference existing boundaries instead of copying them. It looks to me as though

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

On 16/08/18 14:45, webmas...@killyfole.org.uk wrote: How can this issue be resolved without alienating and driving away long time contributors to OSM? I thought that we were heading towards indicating whether the reference was signed, but keeping the reference. I'd go further and say that,

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

On 10/08/18 13:00, Martin Wynne wrote: In this area I was taken to task for adjusting an unexplained boundary, which turned out to be the local "PlusBus" area boundary for inclusive fares from the nearest railway station That's likely to be subject to database rights, as I don't think that it

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

On 10/08/18 09:38, Stuart Reynolds wrote: If OSM as an organisation wants to take annual snapshots for posterity, You are confusing two different things here. 1) Things that were never current during the lifetime of OSM; 2) Things that have ceased to exist after being mapped. The latter are

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

I think people are overlooking the original use case for suppressing C references, which was that they confused satellite navigator users. As I pointed out before, this is really an attribute of the particular turn onto the road, not the road itself. The fact that a road (A, B, or C) may have

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

On 08/08/18 09:54, Lester Caine wrote: They should be moved to OHM but then ANY information that is superseded should be automatically archived to SOMETHING since we are now in a situation where much accurately mapped material is simply dumped when there is a change to the current situation.

[Talk-GB] BHF et al Creating AED Location Database (news item)

In the 8 am radio 4 news today there was an item about the British Heart Foundation creating a database of AED locations because these are often not known to people. Although not the BBC, this is another article based on the same news release:

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

On 05/08/18 23:04, Warin wrote: The legal niceties are above me, but the phone book people won ... so even though the facts in the phone book are not copyright, practically you cannot copy them into your own data base. Ridiculous but true. I'd think similar legal arguments could be made in a

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

On 05/08/18 22:00, Mark Goodge wrote: either via a licence which permits re-use or an explicit grant of permission from the rightsholder. That's what a licence is, an explicit grant of permission! The confusion probably arises because of the open source movement's creation of the concept of

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

On 05/08/18 21:10, Martin Wynne wrote: Copyright doesn't work like that. But you can't copyright names, addresses and similar material. That's why the legislators introduced the concept of database rights. OSM works more in the concept of database rights, which don't require creativity,

Re: [Talk-GB] 'D' class roads references.

On 05/08/18 19:02, Martin Wynne wrote: Worcestershire County Council is paid for by me. And a few others. The only place for which I am aware of national legislation making certain government publications automatically free to use is the USA. Even there it only applies to the Federal

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

On 04/08/18 17:58, webmas...@killyfole.org.uk wrote: What do you define as on the ground? The road is there, it has a classification and name set by the local authority. Hence setting the ref= and name= tags. Some people take the position that you cannot add a name, foreign language name, or

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

On 04/08/18 10:31, Lester Caine wrote: 'display_ref=no' would be appropriate in some areas of the world As I hinted in a previous response, this is an attribute of the junction, not the road. Moreover, it is probably a directed attribute, so actually relates to a turn relation. Also,

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

On 04/08/18 10:07, Philip Barnes wrote: the standatrd renderer is International There should not be a standard renderer. That would definitely encourage tagging for the (that) renderer. The map needs to describe what is actually there. It has always been up to individual renderers to

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

On 04/08/18 07:01, Philip Barnes wrote: The renderer cannot know not to render refs on C roads in the UK, remember osm is an international database. Telling a driver to turn left onto the C666 is confusing if there is no sign to back up that instruction. Routing type renderers need to know

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

On 04/08/18 00:47, Dave F wrote: After many discussions over the years about the referencing of 'C' class roads there appeared to be a general consensus to keep them in the database but provide a unique tag to allow them not to be rendered. I assume you mean the reference is not rendered

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed Footpaths

On 31/07/18 16:22, Ian Caldwell wrote: Some footpaths, some of which are rights of way, have been closed as part of building a new residential estate How should this be tagged or should I just delete them? I do not think they exist on the ground anymore. Do not delete! My personal

Re: [Talk-GB] Missing long distance footpath relation

On 27/07/18 12:56, Brian Prangle wrote: I'll also drop the offender a helpful note. Really you should be trying to get them to repair the damage, before you resort to reverting for yourself. Also, as this seems to have been in good faith, you need to revert just the relation, not the

Re: [Talk-GB] Spurious No U turns in GB

On 27/06/18 15:30, SK53 wrote: # Junctions with islands which also cause a single carriageway to split and merge around the junction. # I would definitely agree that this is tagging for the renderer, and wrong. However, I can think of a case like this where you might well get attention from

Re: [Talk-GB] Local names of bits of trunk roads

On 25/06/18 14:13, Stuart Reynolds wrote: So how should I tag this? I want to have the correct name for the sections of A1, yet I don’t know how far these extend (my data lists the street names at points, not over lengths), and equally I don’t want to lose the Great North Road tag - just to

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway Platforms - Covered=yes are not shown in latest rendering

On 29/05/18 14:53, Tony Shield wrote: At the end of this week (2nd June) I intend to change the platforms I know to remove covered=yes, if you disagree please challenge. I disagree; it is tagging for the renderer. ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway level crossings

Please read the terms of use on that web site, in particular: "You may only print off copies, and may only download page(s) from our site for your personal and non-commercial use." Anything included in OSM needs to have licence that permits commercial use, so you cannot use the data from

Re: [Talk-GB] Toys R Us

On 08/05/18 13:10, Dave F wrote: I've changed over to using disused:shop=* as it keeps the use of the shop in the tag. Due to shop classifications they often reopen with businesses of a similar nature. (food, clothes etc) That reflects the planning classification (which are actually more fine

[Talk-GB] [OT] Maplin (was: Toys R Us)

On 05/05/18 08:52, Philip Barnes wrote: At present Maplin are still open and not sure if they have a closing date. I'm still hoping they are saved as there is no get it now alternative. They deepened the discounts, yet again, on Friday, and are selling off the shop fittings. I don't think

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

On 03/05/18 17:53, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: I would use a node where the van stops, tagged with amenity="post_office", name="Over Mobile Post Office Service", That seems to break the name is only the name rule. ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

On 02/05/18 18:52, ael wrote: I am confused:-) How should a Royal mail local delivery office be tagged? It seems that it is not amenity=post_office. I notice that I have used post_depot once some time ago, but that doesn't seem to be in the wiki (or in the presets for josm). Yet I am sure that

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 02/05/18 13:03, Craig Wallace wrote: A 20 sign with a green circle is advisory. A 20 sign with a red circle is a legal limit. Some advisory limits are signed as "Slow zone" or similar. Advisory signs can be put up with no formality. Legal speed limits require a traffic regulation order,

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 02/05/18 12:06, Adam Snape wrote: Sorry, for clarity, both '20 mph zones' and '20mph limits' are actual legal limits, not just advisory. In the former case, the sign on entry to the zone coupled with the traffic calming is thought to be enough to make drivers aware of the reduced speed

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 01/05/18 12:23, David Woolley wrote: I don't know about your tool, but it is essential that every user has an explicit personal account with OSM, and that they are set up to receive emails if people add changeset comments, or post messages to their OSM account.  maps.me has a high incidence

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

Two or three years ago, we had problem of lots of bogus "wrong speed limit" notes being added by one particular app. The general result ws that no-one took any notice of the notes from that app. More recently, we have had problems from maps.me, although possibly not for speed limits. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 30/04/18 18:41, Tobias Zwick wrote: On tagging implicit speed limits in the United Kingdom, the wiki lists the following values [1] for "maxspeed:type": GB:nsl_single (=60 mph), GB:nsl_dual (=70 mph) and GB:motorway (=70 mph) Aren't we missing a couple of points here? These speed limits

Re: [Talk-GB] unwanted advertising in OSM in the UK

On 08/03/18 09:44, Jez Nicholson wrote: The skill is in how to spot the difference between a description and an over-the-top SEO description I doubt the typically over the top marketing speak description actually produces good SEO results! I think the guidelines for good results are similar

Re: [Talk-GB] New Post Office Data and Comparison Tool

On 19/02/18 15:02, Ed Loach wrote: The delivery office still has the post office tag on. Should it be tagged differently, or have a subtag added (post_office=delivery_office maybe?), or something else? I would say amenity=post_depot; operator=Royal Mail. Maybe not even that it you cannot

Re: [Talk-GB] New Post Office Data and Comparison Tool

On 19/02/18 13:29, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: The raw branch list data can be found at http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postoffice/data/ and it licensed under the Open Government Licence v3. It includes ID numbers, branch names, addresses, locations, and opening hours. What does

Re: [Talk-GB] Heads up: Please check recent edits by this user...

Splitting with JOSM shouldn't break the relations. I think there may have been a technique error here, e.g. some form of delete and re-add. On 13/01/18 17:15, Colin Smale wrote: Things are starting to get messy. The original user has been reverting many changes (which is good) but some

Re: [Talk-GB] Heads up: Please check recent edits by this user...

On 13/01/18 14:42, Dave F wrote: When a router traversing a way encounters a node it does a check to see if other ways are connected, If they are, it analyses the tags on those ways & decides if needs to go down one of them or continue to the next node. There's no requirement to split.

Re: [Talk-GB] Nominatim and postcodes

On 10/01/18 14:49, Mark Goodge wrote: I tried searching on OSM for a postcode, which I know exists, but it returned zero entries from Nominatim. Other postcode searches work fine. Can anyone tell me where Nominatim gets its data from for a postcode search, and how often it's updated? I

Re: [Talk-GB] Non-free sources [was: Re: Importing Shell fuel stations]

On 29/12/17 13:05, Mark Goodge wrote: We draw the line at using a source which is subject to database right, and where using the content would be an infringement of that right. We also don't allow material used in breach of contract, even if only a click wrap contract. Google Street View

Re: [Talk-GB] Mistagging of old telephone boxes

On 23/12/17 19:13, Dave F wrote: Not an expert, but I'm surprised if that's true. Isn't BY attribution the same that OSM asks of map producers? I note Mapillary are also CC BY-SA For third party contributors, OSM only attributes a small number, like the Ordnance Survey. Third party

Re: [Talk-GB] Mistagging of old telephone boxes

On 22/12/17 22:32, Dave F wrote: To double check -  CC BY-SA 2.0 is compatible with OSM? The problem is going to be the BY part. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenRailwayMap

On 19/12/17 10:23, Steven Abrams (Brook Street) wrote: https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/942751174922555393

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 15/11/17 13:18, Adam Snape wrote: Interesting, but if your interpretation of the law regarding red/green distinctions is correct, why do the majority of road road atlases on sale and most maps (both open and proprietary) supplied by Ordnance Survey maintain the red/green colouring? OS

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 15/11/17 01:53, Gervase Markham wrote: Can we please have blue motorways and green A-roads?:-) Or do people not like green A-roads because so many other things are green? Whilst the OSM map renderings probably fall in a grey area, between public services and private hobby, for any map

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/17 17:51, Ilya Zverev wrote: postcodes, should they be removed from the import? Is there a database that I can check these against? There is a database, but one of OSM UK's big bug bears is that it is not licensed in a way that allows it to be used for OSM. About the limit of what

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/17 15:35, Philip Barnes wrote: I would dispute that the operator is most locations is Shell and that the brand should be Shell, but they are independent businesses who have a franchise to sell Shell fuel, but Shell do not employ the cashier, the mechanics or supply what is sold in the

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/17 10:59, Ilya Zverev wrote: I have received the list from the Shell UK. Are you suggesting I should buy a ticket and verify each of these on the ground? Are there any better sources for Shell fuel stations, or are you implying the UK is a special restricted no-imports-whatsoever

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 31/10/17 19:04, Bob Hawkins wrote: 2. Permissive paths: I do not understand “/permissive paths need showing/ I hope this means distinguishing from public ones, rather than that they are currently not rendered! Almost every path in a council or Royal park is a permissive path, even if

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 30/10/17 12:05, Lester Caine wrote: Yep ... fixmystreet is not working with the right authorities and is a pain to find the right location anyway. Looking to overlay the website location map with the sort of facilities a parish council looks after. I'm not aware that any of the council

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 30/10/17 10:37, Lester Caine wrote: What I'm looking at here is reports of fly tipping, dog mess, and so on;) However, note that some councils are insisting that only their own web site be used to report

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS/OSM comparison tool now includes graphs

On 23/10/17 16:23, Gregrs wrote: I'm not sure; it seems to be reverse-geocoded from postcode centroids (which is one reason I wouldn't recommend anyone directly copying FHRS data into OSM without some manual processing). I have contacted the FSA to see what can be done. Using postcode

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS/OSM comparison tool now includes graphs

On 23/10/17 15:52, Gregrs wrote: Several authorities (Copeland, Middlesborough, Sedgemeoor, Portsmouth and South Tyneside) seem to have removed geocodes for a large number of their FHRS establishments recently, as shown by the sharp dropoff Is it possible that they were using NPLG data,

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project: Addresses and Postcodes

On 19/10/17 13:15, Adam Snape wrote: Despite postcode polygons sometimes being used, they are really just automatically calculated from the delivery points to which the postcode applies. There is an extended version of the postcode, which includes an extra two (I think) characters, that

Re: [Talk-GB] Red route attribution

On 04/10/17 10:32, David Fox wrote: What's a red route? I only know of mountain bike classification. They are primary roads, and short sections of tributaries, marked with red, rather than yellow lines, on which vehicles are not allowed to stop (except for traffic lights and tail backs).

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging "Shared space" roads (Preston City Centre)

On 01/10/17 14:12, Adam Snape wrote: To move things forward I would like others' opinions about how we should map such shared space schemes Are we happy to broaden the definition of living_street to include them or are they better mapped as ordinary streets with additional tags? Another

Re: [Talk-GB] Access and other tags for a particular Restricted Byway

On 29/09/17 13:56, Bob Hawkins wrote: In the absence of the image, the two signs read as follows: 1. In white on blue: Oxfordshire County Council/No vehicles beyond this point except for access. motor_vehicle=destination 2. In white on green: RESTRICTED BYWAY/PRIVATE ROAD/NO

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Summer 2017 July-Sept

On 11/07/17 16:38, David Woolley wrote: notices about "Withdrawal of Implied Permission", e.g. <http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/imageuploads/1388775198_80.177.117.97.jpg> This is a clearer version, both in terms of the sharpness of the image, and in terms of its presentati

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Summer 2017 July-Sept

On 11/07/17 14:37, SK53 wrote: public rights of way through stations (i.e., notional places on stations where you don't need a ticket). Paul Sladen defended the one at Nottingham station. Here I think 'duck' tagging is the way to proceed, so entrances

Re: [Talk-GB] Shared Public Rights of Way

On 04/07/17 10:15, Bob Hawkins wrote: Keys cannot be duplicated Keys can, however, have multiple values, using ";" as a delimiter. Whether data consumers would cope with this is an open question, but I can't seem them coping with alternatives any better.

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On 04/06/17 23:07, Warin wrote: Why are people so reluctant to contact another mapper? I think that is because they expect a "mind your own business" response, in which case there is no casting vote available. ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Museums in Berwick-upon-Tweed

On 28/05/17 10:24, Frederik Ramm wrote: "The two Museum symbols at NU 00023 52563 and NT 99988 52538 are no longer relevant as the museums closed several years ago and the area is now private housing." I'll leave it to you to figure out what these coordinates mean and which museums may need to

Re: [Talk-GB] cryptic bicycle tagging/attribution on Lever Street in London

On 19/05/17 19:48, Remek Zajac wrote: So what is your take on "cycleway:right=lane" used on a one-way street David? I would say opposite_lane was wrong. I would interpret as saying that cycleway:right=lane was correct.

Re: [Talk-GB] cryptic bicycle tagging/attribution on Lever Street in London

On 19/05/17 18:47, Remek Zajac wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem with googlemaps is, but yes, it's like you've just described. Google maps is copyright, so can't be used as the basis of another map. Moreover there is an explicit restriction on the use of Google Street View to

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

On 13/05/17 10:48, David Woolley wrote: Also, maps are covered by database rights as well as copyright, for 15 years, and that is the real issue for geocoding, as it doesn't require any degree of creativity. I should have added that the fair dealing exemption for database rights explicitly

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] Importing fuel stations in UK and future similar imports

On 13/05/17 08:08, Richard Fairhurst wrote: There is no "fair use" clause in UK copyright law, which is important not just because OSM is hosted in England & Wales but also because this is presumably a dataset in part containing materials with an E copyright holder. Also, maps are covered by

Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-london] New OSM London Meetup - Invite

On 09/05/17 07:14, Andrew Hain wrote: Does it include stations belonging to Network Rail? I believe many stations are owned by train operating companies, not Network Rail. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Open Litter Map now online

On 25/04/17 10:44, Dave F wrote: Unsure how you expect this site to reduce litter. It's not going to prevent people dropping their waste & it's more productive to contact your local authority to get fly-tipping debris removed. +1 Also, by looking at sites that already collect this sort of

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering Stiles

On 05/04/17 10:09, Ian Caldwell wrote: One of the reasons I think he was adding name="stile". is that stiles are not rendered on the standard map. Is there are web based map that does render stiles? I cannot find one. It may be possible to create one using uMap. Unfortunately the English

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