Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
forse conviene far fare un paio di timbri con l’attribuzione, così li mandiamo in giro che possono timbrare le loro opere e rimandarci poi in dietro in timbri quando hanno finito ;-) Ciao, Martin sent from a phone > On 24. Jul 2018, at 22:56, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > > È una mappa

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il mer 25 lug 2018, 10:11 Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: > forse conviene far fare un paio di timbri con l’attribuzione, così li > mandiamo in giro che possono timbrare le loro opere e rimandarci poi in > dietro in timbri quando hanno finito ;-) > Non è una cazzata... Wikimedia Italia potrebbe

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
On 24/07/18 22:56, Andrea Musuruane wrote: È una mappa cartacea in distribuzione all'ufficio del turismo. Ciao, Andrea Bè se vuoi mandargli una mail vedi te, poi se vuoi metti in questo lista-memorandum: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution Penso che Ale_zena

Re: [Talk-it] Violazione OSM

2018-07-25 Per discussione liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
On 24/07/18 23:14, demon.box wrote: non credevo che arrivassero a tanto ma invece ho potuto piacevolmente constatare che sulle mappe cartacee che ora sono in distribuzione hanno incollato una etichetta nella quale si cita anche OSM come fonte dati esattamente come sulla versione per smartphone!

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione Andrea Musuruane
Perdonatemi, ma credo che qualsiasi segnalazione di tipo legale abbia efficacia maggiore se la fa Wikimedia Italia e non il primo mapper che passava di lì (me in questo caso). Ciao, Andrea Il mer 25 lug 2018, 10:38 liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu < liste.gira...@posteo.eu> ha scritto: > On

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione Stefano Droghetti
Il 24/07/2018 14:59, Andrea Musuruane ha scritto: Ciao,     Ho trovato una mappa di Spotorno all'ufficio del turismo che è palesemente copiata dalla OpenCycleMap e non è presente alcuna attribuzione. Un particolare: https://postimg.cc/image/q1snnvssd/ ROTFL! C'è persino

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione Stefano Droghetti
Il 24/07/2018 14:59, Andrea Musuruane ha scritto: Ciao,     Ho trovato una mappa di Spotorno all'ufficio del turismo che è palesemente copiata dalla OpenCycleMap e non è presente alcuna attribuzione. Un particolare: https://postimg.cc/image/q1snnvssd/ I dati usati sono precedenti alle

Re: [Talk-it] Violazione OSM

2018-07-25 Per discussione Alfredo Gattai
era l'ora On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 11:15 PM demon.box wrote: > non credevo che arrivassero a tanto ma invece ho potuto piacevolmente > constatare che sulle mappe cartacee che ora sono in distribuzione hanno > incollato una etichetta nella quale si cita anche OSM come fonte dati > esattamente

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione Davide Mangraviti
Si ne sono a conoscenza da tempo. Sono il mapper della zona e ho mappato e tengo aggiornati tutti i sentieri di quella zona. Tralatro avevo realizzato per quel comune un lavoro di pannelli per un itinerario e le cartine erano già belle che pronte.

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
On 25/07/18 12:19, Davide Mangraviti wrote: Si ne sono a conoscenza da tempo. Sono il mapper della zona e ho mappato e tengo aggiornati tutti i sentieri di quella zona. Tralatro avevo realizzato per quel comune un lavoro di pannelli per un itinerario e le cartine erano già belle che pronte.

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-07-25 11:38 GMT+02:00 Stefano Droghetti : > > > Il 24/07/2018 14:59, Andrea Musuruane ha scritto: > >> Ciao, >> Ho trovato una mappa di Spotorno all'ufficio del turismo che è >> palesemente copiata dalla OpenCycleMap e non è presente alcuna attribuzione. >> >> Un particolare: >>

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione Andrea Musuruane
Il mer 25 lug 2018, 12:26 Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: > > ma siete sicuri che si tratta di OSM? Gli edifici forse no? Questo per > esempio sulla loro mappa sono due: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/186406853 > Anche altri edifici non sono del tutto uguali. > I label invece probabilmente

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-07-25 13:18 GMT+02:00 Andrea Musuruane : > La mappa è quella di OSM prima del luglio 2017. Ne sono sicuro perché sono > presenti alcuni errori che poi ho corretto io: posizione strade errate, > sensi unici errati, ecc. > ok, grazie, scusate visto solo ora, scartate il mio ultimo

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-07-25 11:38 GMT+02:00 Stefano Droghetti : > > > Il 24/07/2018 14:59, Andrea Musuruane ha scritto: > >> Ciao, >> Ho trovato una mappa di Spotorno all'ufficio del turismo che è >> palesemente copiata dalla OpenCycleMap e non è presente alcuna attribuzione. >> >> Un particolare: >>

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Comunque, la "Strada di Circonvallazione" non era mai scritto con una "l" in OSM, ho verificato tutti i pezzi vicino al centro, e si chiamava Via Aurelia prima. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38691004/history Per me i label hanno messi a mano, al meno alcuni. CIao, Martin

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa di Spotorno - mancata attribuzione

2018-07-25 Per discussione Andrea Musuruane
Il mer 25 lug 2018, 13:48 Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: > Comunque, la "Strada di Circonvallazione" non era mai scritto con una "l" > in OSM, ho verificato tutti i pezzi vicino al centro, e si chiamava Via > Aurelia prima. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38691004/history > Per me i label

Re: [Talk-it] Nodo linea ferroviaria spostato

2018-07-25 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Jul 2018, at 15:36, nico...@tiscali.it wrote: > > ho già scritto all'utente e non sono molto pratico di revert, nel caso > qualcuno potrebbe risistemare il nodo > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1270405777 che sicuramente è stato > spostato involontariamente

[OSM-talk] OSM Awards 2018 — The voting is closing soon!

2018-07-25 Per discussione Ilya Zverev
Hi, This year we are for the third time honouring people and organisations in OpenStreetMap that made great contributions to the map, the ecosystem and the community. OSM Awards is all about showing active members of the community that their work is seen and respected. All you have to do is to

[OSM-talk] the new icon for the Tag:amenity=bureau_de_change

2018-07-25 Per discussione oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch
As far as I understood the new icon for the amenity=bureau_de_change tag will be the one seen on this page: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3301 It is an icon with the symbols of the US dollar and Euro. (there is still no icon at the wiki page:

Re: [OSM-talk] the new icon for the Tag:amenity=bureau_de_change

2018-07-25 Per discussione Daniel Koć
W dniu 25.07.2018 o 15:34, oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch pisze: > There are 180 currencies recognized as legal tender in the world [1]. > I have nothing against USD and EUR, but why not to use a > straightforward comprehensible generic icon, which covers all existing > and future circulating

Re: [OSM-talk] the new icon for the Tag:amenity=bureau_de_change

2018-07-25 Per discussione oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch
OK. Thank you. After the hospital icon example, I see the point.Best regards,O.Sent from my Huawei Mobile___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] the new icon for the Tag:amenity=bureau_de_change

2018-07-25 Per discussione Colin Smale
On 2018-07-25 16:05, Daniel Koć wrote: > We have the same problem with hospital symbol. There's even an official > generic symbol that we could use, called "red crystal" (see > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement#The_Red_Crystal > ) and I like it very

Re: [OSM-talk] the new icon for the Tag:amenity=bureau_de_change

2018-07-25 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Jul 2018, at 16:39, Colin Smale wrote: > > The Red Crystal symbol is protected by the ICRC. We can't use it, nor can we > use the Red Cross or Red Crescent. There have been numerous legal cases which > came down to the fact that these symbols are protected by

Re: [OSM-talk] the new icon for the Tag:amenity=bureau_de_change

2018-07-25 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Jul 2018, at 15:34, "oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch" > wrote: > > There are 180 currencies recognized as legal tender in the world [1]. I have > nothing against USD and EUR, but why not to use a straightforward > comprehensible generic icon, which covers all

Re: [OSM-talk] the new icon for the Tag:amenity=bureau_de_change

2018-07-25 Per discussione Daniel Koć
W dniu 25.07.2018 o 16:39, Colin Smale pisze: > The Red Crystal symbol is protected by the ICRC. We can't use it, nor > can we use the Red Cross or Red Crescent. There have been numerous > legal cases which came down to the fact that these symbols are > protected by international law. Even

Re: [OSM-talk] the new icon for the Tag:amenity=bureau_de_change

2018-07-25 Per discussione Colin Smale
On 2018-07-25 17:13, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I guess it would be perceived as shooting themselves in the foot if the > international red cross would file a lawsuit against osmf for using a red > cross as icon for hospitals. It has happened before. The ICRC are totally fanatical about the

Re: [OSM-talk] the new icon for the Tag:amenity=bureau_de_change

2018-07-25 Per discussione Colin Smale
On 2018-07-25 17:13, Daniel Koć wrote: > W dniu 25.07.2018 o 16:39, Colin Smale pisze: > >> The Red Crystal symbol is protected by the ICRC. We can't use it, nor can we >> use the Red Cross or Red Crescent. There have been numerous legal cases >> which came down to the fact that these symbols

[OSM-talk] User deleting abandoned and rejected proposals on the wiki

2018-07-25 Per discussione Michael Reichert
Hi, I (Mateusz Konieczny was faster) found a user who removes all content from abandoned and rejected proposal pages on the wiki and adds the Delete template. It's the template asking a administrator to delete the page. I think that our admins are clever enough to not blindly follow these

[Talk-us] Discriminatory remarks was Re: Senseless [nationality], again

2018-07-25 Per discussione Shawn K. Quinn
On 07/25/2018 05:33 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: > Do you live in [area of questionable edits]? > If not, why do you care whether the students want to map sidewalks there? This point could have been made without a needless and inflammatory remark against the original poster's country of origin. While

Re: [Talk-transit] [Tagging] Transport mode on platforms? (Was: Re: Documentation issues of PT tagging schemes)

2018-07-25 Per discussione Jo
Very soon after PTv2 was 'accepted' I understood that if we would ever replace hw=bus_stop NODES with pt=platform, the mode of transport would need to be added on these nodes. Ever since it's a back and forth pulling between yes the mode of transport can be added on them and NO the platforms

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Karl Wettin
+1 I’ll try to get in touch the MSB press contact tomorrow (the least invasive point of contact I can think of) to see if they have any information regarding the whereabout of the polish brigades. > 25 juli 2018 kl. 22:06 skrev Christoffer Holmstedt > : > > The new project 4912 covers the

[Talk-us] Senseless Sidewalks Part 2: Crisis Averted

2018-07-25 Per discussione Nick Bolten
Hello everyone! This is Nick Bolten with the OpenSidewalks group. By some oversight, I wasn't subscribed to talk-us, and since the system is based on mailing lists (in 2018) that means I can't jump into the previous thread to help clear things up, so I'm making a new post. First, the title:

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] nom des réseaux de transport en commun

2018-07-25 Per discussione osm . sanspourriel
Le 25/07/2018 à 18:34, marc marc - marc_marc_...@hotmail.com a écrit : Si un utilisateur veux la liste des network dans un département, l'api permet déjà de le faire, sans avoir besoin de dupliquer cette info dans la valeur network Ce n'est pour cela que la clé est utilisée, c'est que l'API de

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Micke
Hello, That is the same area as the already existing HOT project. I think this link is good to see the fires. I didn't see anyone mention it. https://kartor.skogsstyrelsen.se/kartorapp/?startapp=skogligagrunddata The fire near "Österdalälven and "Skjufält" is the military shooting area,

[Talk-transit] Transport mode on platforms? (Was: Re: [Tagging] Documentation issues of PT tagging schemes)

2018-07-25 Per discussione SelfishSeahorse
Hi It seems that the only problem with PTv2 that remains is the rendering of public_transport=platform, i.e. whether public_transport=platform (and maybe public_transport=station too) should get the transport mode tag(s) (bus=yes/tram=yes/...). Note that the PTv2 proposal suggested to map the

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Karl Wettin
The press contact is open 24/7, so I called them. MSB knows nothing more than that they are placed in Gävleborg and Jämtlands län. It is up to each län to decide where they will be deployed. Our best shot is probably getting a hold of someone in the actual team of firefighters that can let us

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Signalisation routiere

2018-07-25 Per discussione osm . sanspourriel
Je ne sais pas taguer les éboulis sauf (sur) navette dans les 4 km qui suivent ;-). Visiblement ils ont oublié de déplace le panneau "Sauf navette" quand ils ont pris le chalumeau. Avec Osmose et les panneaux routiers il y un problème : on propose d'intégrer des panneaux à 90 datant d'avant

[OSM-talk-fr] Signalisation routiere

2018-07-25 Per discussione François Lacombe
Bonsoir à tous, Dans la catégorie signalisation un peu délirante, voici ma contribution : https://imgur.com/iMwsXsW Il manque plus que les guirlandes Et en plus c'est pour réguler un axe particulièrement fréquenté, saturé même https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4308873732 Alors comment on tague

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless Sidewalks Part 2: Crisis Averted

2018-07-25 Per discussione Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 6:32 PM Nick Bolten wrote: > First, the title: Frederik Ramm noticed that 9 ways, representing a total of > 18 nodes, in Austin, Texas were untagged, and they should've been tagged as > sidewalks (footways). I fixed them. It took less than two minutes as I also >

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Karl Wettin
I think I have figured it out! Interview from yesterday with the Polish lead on site in Sveg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHPUYdkyfjY=youtu.be=141 Paraphrased: " We are working on two sites that are 20km, more or less, from our base of operations. On the first site we are replacing the

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless Germans, again.

2018-07-25 Per discussione Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:32 AM Ian Dees wrote: > Hearing that Americans "inhabit a culture of ad-hoc expedience and > sloppiness" or getting an email from a member of the Data Working Group > threatening to revert your contributions is not particularly inspiring. It's > no wonder it's so

[Talk-se] Tillstånd beviljat att använda LMs ortofoto för HOT-projektet

2018-07-25 Per discussione Karl Wettin
Lantmäteriet har beviljat OpenStreetMap att använda sig av deras ortofoto (i stället för Bing) inom ramen för det HOT-projekt som nu hjälper den polska räddningstjänsten. Tillståndet har getts till mig muntligen via telefon i en bil av LM efter deras dagliga möte med Länsstyrelsen och MSB i

Re: [Talk-se] Tillstånd beviljat att använda LMs ortofoto för HOT-projektet

2018-07-25 Per discussione Christoffer Holmstedt
Omstart av JOSM räckte inte för mig men om jag gick in på Imagery > Imagery preferences och sedan klickade på "Update default entries" (blåa pilar i nedre högra hörnet över kartan) så fick jag fram "nya" ortofoto. Den 25 juli 2018 13:15 skrev Karl Wettin : > Lantmäteriet har beviljat

[Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Blake Girardot
Hi all, Can someone help me locate the actual locations of the fires for these two general areas? the polish crew will be placed in Ljusdalen and the other half around Sveg I can not locate the actual fire locations around those two areas. Could someone locate those fire areas and send me a

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Karl Wettin
All information that's available right now is what I was told by LM earlier today, that half the crew is at Ljusdalen and the other half is heading to Sveg. The last information MSB has published about it is today at 0900 AM, that the Polish firefighters are headed to Jämtland and Gävleborg,

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione NKA mapper
This WMS will show the actual fire areas: https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/wms/?FORMAT=image/PNG=1.1.1=WMS=GetMap=fires_modis_7,fires_viirs_7=={proj}={width}={height}={bbox}

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Blake Girardot
Perfect, thank you very much! Now if you could just help me find Ljusdalen :) Sveg shows up in an OSM search but Ljusdalen does not cheers On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 8:05 PM, NKA mapper wrote: > This WMS will show the actual fire areas: >

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Blake Girardot
whoops I spoke to soon, that is very similar to the web map service for modis viiris data. ( Still very glad to have it as a wms rather than a web map ) I do not see any hot spots near Sveg. I was hoping Swedish new reports might help locate the actual fire sites. On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Blake Girardot
Oh wait, I do, I see two sets of fires SE and SW of Sveg On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 8:23 PM, Blake Girardot wrote: > whoops I spoke to soon, that is very similar to the web map service > for modis viiris data. > > ( Still very glad to have it as a wms rather than a web map ) > > I do not see any

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Jesper Falk
SVT have a special program for the fires now between 20:00-21:00. That might give us clues about where efforts are made. They will also have interviews with local authorities. I will watch the program a bit later (available on SVT Play). On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 20:23 Blake Girardot wrote: >

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Mattias Lindblad
I suppose it is "Ljusdal" not Ljusdalen. The fires appear to be near Kårböle, which is located just between Sveg and Ljusdal. But it would probably be best to get information from MSB or the county administration. /Mattias ons 25 juli 2018 kl. 20:21 skrev Blake Girardot : > Perfect, thank you

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Björn Stenberg
SOS Alarm keeps an updated map here: https://www.sosalarm.se/lagesbild-brand This map is referred to by government agency sites so it is probably the best publicly available. Unfortunately it is rather zoomed out so I'm not sure it is good enough for our purpose. -- Björn On 25 July 2018

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Björn Stenberg
A very good fire map is available from Gävleborgs länsstyrelse: https://www.lansstyrelsen.se/download/18.7b397dca164899bd38a105b8/1532544038528/20180725.pdf -- Björn On 25 July 2018 8:40:22 pm Björn Stenberg wrote: SOS Alarm keeps an updated map here: https://www.sosalarm.se/lagesbild-brand

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Mattias Lindblad
Unfortunately that map marks everything, from small wastebasket-fires that are already extinguished to huge wildfires. http://effis.jrc.ec.europa.eu/static/effis_current_situation/public/index.html is a bit less detailed, but can be zoomed and use an OSM layer. The area that Blake referred to

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Blake Girardot
Greetings, I created a 2nd project for the area SE of Sveg (I left out the SW area based on Mattias's comments) https://tasks.hotosm.org/contribute?difficulty=ALL=OSM-SE Respectfully, blake On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 8:52 PM, Mattias Lindblad wrote: > Unfortunately that map marks everything,

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Christoffer Holmstedt
I would say the best information available about forest fires is still the Copernicus EMSR298 [1]. Though identifying which one the Polish firefighters will be deployed to is not generally available information as of now. Since the Polish firefighters arrived in Sweden I haven't seen any other

Re: [Talk-se] Trying to locate actual fire locations for mapping projects

2018-07-25 Per discussione Christoffer Holmstedt
The new project 4912 covers the other project's area is this wise? I think it would be more wise to cover the areas south and south west of Sveg but do _not_ include "Älvdalens Skjutfält"/Trängslet [3] as there are undetonated ammunition in that area so no firefighters are allowed to go in there.

[Talk-us] Senseless Sidewalks, again.

2018-07-25 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, we had a long-ish discussion here (or was it over at imports?) about adding sidewalks, especially related to a project called "OpenSidewalks" which boldly announced a massive attempt at doing so. I recently stumbled across this changeset in Austin, TX:

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless Germans, again.

2018-07-25 Per discussione Bryan Housel
Do you live in Austin, TX? If not, why do you care whether the students want to map sidewalks there? Since you seem confused about “what the purpose of this is”, and can’t even be bothered to look up any of the “long-ish discussions”, I’ve done a Google search for you to find this:

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless Germans, again.

2018-07-25 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 25.07.2018 12:33, Bryan Housel wrote: > Do you live in Austin, TX? > If not, why do you care whether the students want to map sidewalks there? What does this have to do with my nationality? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless Germans, again.

2018-07-25 Per discussione Bryan Housel
You have a reputation for bullying local contributors and impeding work made by local teams trying to improve the map around them. I’m telling you Frederik - knock it off. Find more productive ways to improve OSM than threatening to delete people’s work. > On Jul 25, 2018, at 7:11 AM,

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless Germans, again.

2018-07-25 Per discussione Bryan Housel
> Let's concentrate on the concerns Frederik raised and discuss them based > on their own merit. I’m focused on this part of the email. This is not an ok way to talk about teams of mappers working in the US: It’s obviously a work in progress. He can’t just threaten to “delete them all once

[Talk-us] Sidewalks in Austin without any tags

2018-07-25 Per discussione Andy Townsend
On 25/07/2018 14:12, Bryan Housel wrote: ... Find more productive ways to improve OSM than threatening to delete people’s work. (ahem) Hi Bryan, What I'd normally suggest in a situation like this is that someone comment on some of the problem changesets and offer help and assistance. 

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless Germans, again.

2018-07-25 Per discussione Kevin Kenny
Please, let's tone down the rhetoric here - both of you! Frederik has a long and distinguished history with OSM. He cares about the map passionately. He wants very much to see things done right. Alas, that tends to mean that he forgets at times what it means to be a novice, and expects perfection

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless Germans, again.

2018-07-25 Per discussione Kevin Kenny
Please, let's tone down the rhetoric here - both of you! Frederik has a long and distinguished history with OSM. He cares about the map passionately. He wants very much to see things done right. Alas, that tends to mean that he forgets at times what it means to be a novice, and expects perfection

Re: [Talk-us] Sidewalks in Austin without any tags

2018-07-25 Per discussione Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 3:58 PM Andy Townsend wrote: > > > > Do you (or does anyone else on this list) have a direct connection to > the TaskarCenterAtUW account? If so it'd be great to let them know that > people have been trying to get in touch with them, and to get some > information about

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless Germans, again.

2018-07-25 Per discussione Ian Dees
Kevin, It's kind of odd that you request that both Bryan and Frederik tone down the rhetoric and then generalize and repeat the rhetoric throughout your message. American mappers strive for the same goal as almost every other OpenStreetMapper: to improve the map to the best of their ability. I

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless Germans, again.

2018-07-25 Per discussione Christoph Hormann
I am somewhat amazed by the fact that hardly anyone from the US community (where a lot of mappers routinely map abroad and should be able to empathize with Frederik being concerned about an area where he has no first hand knowledge of) seems to find it necessary to speak up against this. I

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless racism

2018-07-25 Per discussione Jmapb
On 7/25/2018 12:57 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: I am somewhat amazed by the fact that hardly anyone from the US community (where a lot of mappers routinely map abroad and should be able to empathize with Frederik being concerned about an area where he has no first hand knowledge of) seems to

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless Germans, again.

2018-07-25 Per discussione Jordan Brod
Is it in the unwritten rules that Talk-de is always reasonable and peace filled and Talk-us is hostile and rage filled? It seems there is a bit of hypocrisy in the OSM adage to rely on local mappers when someone thousands of miles away is waiting to delete the local's contribution. I wouldn't go

Re: [Talk-us] Senseless racism

2018-07-25 Per discussione Jordan Brod
While I agree that national pride should be in how good the map is I think that trying to eradicate nationalism in OSM is going to be a challenge. It's too firmly entrenched. Also I don't think calling someone a German is racist, I mean it's a nationality more than a race. Calling them senseless

Re: [Talk-us] Hostility towards US mappers

2018-07-25 Per discussione Bryan Housel
Hey Christoph, you make a good point, and I apologize for the flippant subject line. I realize that changing “Senseless sidewalks” to “Senseless Germans” distracts from the overall point that I was trying to make. In truth, most sidewalks are fine and most Germans are sensible people. That

Re: [Talk-us] Hostility towards US mappers

2018-07-25 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Bryan, On 07/25/2018 09:40 PM, Bryan Housel wrote: > That said - Frederik’s message made me really angry. I’m still pretty upset > about it. To your analogy, I’d never go on talk-de and threaten to revert > the work of some students in Germany just because they didn’t connect some > lines.

Re: [Talk-us] Hostility towards US mappers

2018-07-25 Per discussione Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 25 July 2018, Bryan Housel wrote: > Hey Christoph, you make a good point, and I apologize for the > flippant subject line. I realize that changing “Senseless sidewalks” > to “Senseless Germans” distracts from the overall point that I was > trying to make. In truth, most sidewalks are

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Mission sur les données géographiques souveraines...

2018-07-25 Per discussione Dominique Rousseau
Le Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:52:30PM +, marc marc [marc_marc_...@hotmail.com] a écrit: > Le 24. 07. 18 à 18:22, Christian Quest a écrit : > > On ne peut pas comparer la LO et l'ODbL, la première est une CC-by qui > > ne dit pas vraiment son nom et n'est qu'une forme lisible de... la Loi > > >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tagger voie bus/vélo/taxis uniquement?

2018-07-25 Per discussione Antoine Riche
Le 25/07/2018 à 07:30, Axelos a écrit : Merci pour cette remarque pertinente. Je suis déjà tombé plusieurs fois sur ce type de cas et j'ai bien utilisé cycleway:left=share_busway comme indiqué sur la page bicycle. À noter le "pas de consensus", donc ouvert aux propositions. L'absence de

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose et validateur JSOM

2018-07-25 Per discussione deuzeffe
Le 25/07/2018 à 02:10, mga_geo a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Bonjour, Je viens de regarder les signalements sur le secteur de Saint-Malo pour les arrêts de bus. Il me semble que les modifications récentes ne sont pas prises en compte. Il me semble qu'il faut « un certain temps » au parseur

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Mise à jour des POIs (horaires, ...)

2018-07-25 Per discussione Cyrille37 OSM
Salut, Le 25/07/2018 à 03:32, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : Et aussi je reste perplexe que la BdD OSM porte ces données non géographiques. Tu veux dire les données complémentaires ? Je pensais aux horaires ! Les POI eux ont bien sur leur places dans OSM ;-) Cyrille37.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose et validateur JSOM

2018-07-25 Per discussione marc marc
Bonjour, Le 25. 07. 18 à 02:10, mga_geo a écrit : > Je viens de regarder les signalements sur le secteur de Saint-Malo pour les > arrêts de bus. > Il me semble que les modifications récentes ne sont pas prises en compte. > Par exemple la modification du node 1596702382 faite le 15 juillet n'est

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose et validateur JSOM

2018-07-25 Per discussione mga_geo
Merci Marc, je n'avais pas essayé le "E". Le temps de traitement semble aléatoire, par exemple pour le node 1596702382, j'ai une erreur http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/error/16674624680 alors que la modif date du 15 juillet 2018 http://osm.virtuelle-loipe.de/history/?type=node=1596702382 Malgré

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose et validateur JSOM

2018-07-25 Per discussione marc marc
Le 25. 07. 18 à 12:59, mga_geo a écrit : > Merci Marc, je n'avais pas essayé le "E". > Le temps de traitement semble aléatoire, par exemple pour le node > 1596702382, j'ai une erreur > http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/error/16674624680 alors que la modif date > du 15 juillet 2018 Aussi vieux

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] nom des réseaux de transport en commun

2018-07-25 Per discussione marc marc
Le 11. 07. 18 à 09:24, mga_geo a écrit : > Si j'en crois https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:network#Other_uses > la bonne valeur est "network=FR:Réseau MAT" ou "network=FR:35:Réseau MAT" > > Si l'on suit l'exemple cité dans le wiki du réseau STAR de Rennes Métropole, > la valeur à mettre est

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tagger voie bus/vélo/taxis uniquement?

2018-07-25 Per discussione lenny.libre
Le 24/07/2018 à 23:45, Antoine Riche a écrit : En lisant la page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycleway%3Dshare_busway et l'exemple illustré, je pense qu'il faudrait plutôt utiliser cycleway:left=opposite_share_busway. Le texte de cette page n'est pas très clair, la version

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] nom des réseaux de transport en commun

2018-07-25 Per discussione Romain MEHUT
Moi, j'ai bien envie de changer tous les "Réseau Mat" en simplement "MAT" cf. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malo_Agglo_Transports Romain Le 25 juillet 2018 à 18:34, marc marc a écrit : > Le 11. 07. 18 à 09:24, mga_geo a écrit : > > Si j'en crois

[OSM-talk-fr] Chalets de montagne

2018-07-25 Per discussione EpicKiwi
Bonjour à tous, J'aimerais donner les noms des chalets de montagne d'uns station de ski. Cette station est française et chaque chalet dispose d'un nom qui les désignent à la place de l'adresse. Quel valeur doit-je mettre sur le tag building= et puis-je mettre un tag name= pour donner le nom du

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Chalets de montagne

2018-07-25 Per discussione marc marc
Le 25. 07. 18 à 22:46, EpicKiwi a écrit : > chaque chalet dispose d'un nom qui les désignent à la place de l'adresse. addr:housename= a combiner avec une relation associatedStreet ou un addr:street ou un addr:place= s'il n'y a pas de nom de rue > Quel valeur doit-je mettre sur le tag building=