Re: [Talk-us] MapRoulette challenges wiki

2012-11-03 Thread Alan Millar
Even in Map Roulette, there are some places where I could have taken a larger chunk, a single area with 5 connectivity errors is just as easy to fix; I just got one such roulette spin, and wasn't sure if I should fix the others or not, because there's no way to mark them fixed. Fix them

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] What to do with unnamed NHD streams

2012-10-29 Thread Alan Millar
What would be saved by dropping the nameless intermittent streams assuming they were simplified? I expect this really varies by location. In my area (Washington County, Oregon) these streams were quite useless. Most of them were just plain gone, replaced by farm fields or suburban housing

Re: [Talk-us] Burlington, Vermont road classification

2012-10-18 Thread Alan Millar
The crux of the problem is the answer to the question: Which is more important, outside/official classifications, or physical characteristics? The tagging pages on the wiki don't really provide clarity on this matter. Although the wiki may not be very clear, this subject has been discussed

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - NOW working for me

2012-10-03 Thread Alan Millar
On 9/29/2012 2:18 PM, Alan wrote: Anyone else have problems with recent versions of these no longer working for them? Um, sorry, false alarm. After completely clearing out my SD card, and making sure there were no left over recycle bin or hidden files, I tried it all again and it worked.

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - NOW working for me

2012-10-03 Thread Alan Millar
On 9/29/2012 2:18 PM, Alan wrote: Anyone else have problems with recent versions of these no longer working for them? Um, sorry, false alarm. After completely clearing out my SD card, and making sure there were no left over recycle bin or hidden files, I tried it all again and it worked.

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - not working for me

2012-10-01 Thread Alan Millar
On Sun, 2012-09-30 at 21:09 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote: Could folks that are having trouble try some single tiles or a set generated directly from Lambertus's site? OK, I tried directly from Lambertus's site. I tried the pre-defined state of Oregon from

Re: [Talk-us] Remap-a-tron level 2 complete! Suggestions for level 3?

2012-09-30 Thread Alan Millar
Another suggestion: motorways and trunks without lanes=number tags - Alan ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - not working for me

2012-09-30 Thread Alan Millar
On Sat, 2012-09-29 at 17:48 -0400, Richard Welty wrote: my Nuvi is relatively new (about 2 years old). how old is the firmware on your Nuvi? Mine is rather old. Not sure about the date, but probably at least 5 years old. It just says Nuvi 200, software version 5.00, GPS SW Version 2.20b.

Re: [Talk-us] JOSM zoom limits per server solved (fixes Tiger grey overlay )

2012-09-23 Thread Alan Millar
about applying it to the TIGER tiles to fix the grey Toby On Sep 21, 2012 1:23 PM, Alan Millar grunthos...@yahoo.com wrote: Maybe everyone else knows this, but I just discovered it myself so I thought I would share it. I've been using Remap-a-tron to fix up US roads. I use both

[Talk-us] JOSM zoom limits per server solved (fixes Tiger grey overlay )

2012-09-21 Thread Alan Millar
Maybe everyone else knows this, but I just discovered it myself so I thought I would share it. I've been using Remap-a-tron to fix up US roads. I use both the Bing imagery and the TIGER 2012 tiles overlaid, and it makes it really useful. However, I've been frustrated that I can pretty far in

Re: [Talk-us] Large area of deleted streets in Riverside, Calif.

2012-09-14 Thread Alan Millar
Here is a neighborhood that could be imported from TIGER 2012: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=32.29183lon=-95.4831zoom=17 Thanks - Alan If most of it really is missing then it might be a good candidate to re-import from new TIGER data as I have done in some other hard hit areas of LA. It

Re: [Talk-us] The Remap-A-Tron, Second Wave

2012-09-10 Thread Alan Millar
Quite a few hours later, I'm still seeing the 403 errors on those two paths.  I've cleared browser cache and reloaded, with no improvment  :-( Forbidden You don't have permission to access /remappingservice/count on this server. Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server

Re: [Talk-us] The Remap-A-Tron, Second Wave

2012-09-10 Thread Alan Millar
Yes, that fixed it.  Thanks! - Alan From: Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org To: Alan Millar grunthos...@yahoo.com Cc: Talk-us@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] The Remap-A-Tron, Second Wave Mweh. I suck

Re: [Talk-us] street prefixes

2012-02-18 Thread Alan Millar
On Feb 17, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Southwest Town Center Loop West comes to mind as a great example of just plain brain damaged street naming Wilsonville tends to have. You know, I should find out if I can see Mt Hood when driving east on Southwest North Dakota Street :-) -

Re: [Talk-us] Use of ref-tag on state highways

2011-08-21 Thread Alan Millar
On Aug 21, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: If you don't like it, you can always find a different country to armchair-map That's a little harsh. Where do you live now? New Jersey? Florida? Portland? L.A.? I can't keep track, but you sure get around to read a lot of signage.

Re: [Talk-us] Another day, another bad import

2011-05-01 Thread Alan Millar
On May 1, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Toby Murray wrote: Every time I go editing in some new place, I always find another reason to hate imports. Yeah... Every time I go editing in some new place, I always find another reason to hate newbies, too. If you are looking for a reason to hate something,

Re: [Talk-us] Another day, another bad import

2011-05-01 Thread Alan Millar
On May 1, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Richard Weait wrote: I think that is different in a significant way. It is much easier to fix a newbie than to fix an import. Not if you start your conversation with them with I hate newbies. That was my real point. - Alan

Re: [Talk-us] NHD data import question

2011-04-28 Thread Alan Millar
I've been checking some of the imported data and my general feel is that it is overdigitized.  I don't know if medium versus high reflects just the quality or the amount of digitization.  That would be something to check.  One could also just run some sort of simplification algorithm on all

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-23 Thread Alan Millar
On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Paul Norman wrote: This is now complete for the area west of Portland Oregon as a test. http://www.paulnorman.ca/blog/?attachment_id=96 shows the difference. Nice improvement! I like it. About 99.8% of the data was untouched since it was imported. I checked the

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Alan Millar
I've spotted the consensus.  Stop your bickering.  Either come to an agreement about this tagging, or ignore each other, but absolutely stop picking on each other. You and Frederick seem to be the only ones with that view who contributed to this thread. As Ian said, the rest of us just

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Feature Proposal - RFC - Directional Prefix Suffix Indication

2010-08-24 Thread Alan Millar
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 01:40 -0400, David ``Smith'' wrote: Maybe we should use signed_name=* or name:signed=* to store exactly what's on the sign, preserving abbreviation and prefixes where present? I found N. Temple, No Temple, and North Temple on city street signs all within a few blocks.

Re: [Talk-us] Address Standard

2010-08-12 Thread Alan Millar
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 13:57 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote: My main goal was to separate out the directional prefix because, which while important for mailing, did not really belong as part of the street name. I thought I would take care of the suffix as well. You may think it doesn't really

Re: [Talk-us] Directional Prefix/Postfix Proposal

2010-08-07 Thread Alan Millar
On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 13:15 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: I vote for 3) It's there for good reason. If you want abbreviations, tell your map renderer to garble the data for you. Pre-garbling the data complicates other usage scenarios. Don't do it. +1 Call me an abbreviation police if you

Re: [Talk-us] Directional Prefix/Postfix Proposal

2010-08-07 Thread Alan Millar
How about this proposal for US streets: (1) Leave name unabbreviated (2) Put whatever form you want of abbreviated name in name:en Thoughts? - Alan ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Directional Prefix/Postfix Proposal

2010-08-07 Thread Alan Millar
On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 22:35 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote: For those voting +1 have you even read my original proposal on the reason I want to abbreviate? Yes. You gave a list of reasons it would be OK, and rules people would have to follow to make it work. Some of the reasons I consider

Re: [Talk-us] How to get college students involved?

2010-08-06 Thread Alan Millar
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Stefan Brandle sbran...@cse.taylor.eduwrote: I suspect that reading all available documentation might be a good start. :-) It might, but it also might get you bogged down too. Two years into this myself, I'm still uncovering corners of all available that

Re: [Talk-us] A Friendly Guide to 'Bots and Imports

2010-08-06 Thread Alan Millar
As I manually survey various features (POIs, some hydro, etc.), I usually try to merge in the data from existing imports so as to maintain the link (e.g. gnis:feature_id) back to the original database, in case we want to exchange updates with them again. this is impossible due to the

Re: [Talk-us] Removing tiger:* tags

2010-07-29 Thread Alan Millar
On Jul 29, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Anthony wrote: In any case, I disagree that it's better to leave information you know to be wrong in rather than deleting it. Perhaps that's our fundamental disagreement. For my part in the conversation, I *agree* with you that people should delete (or fix when

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-27 Thread Alan Millar
object to additional tagging for it. You know, I think people are more in agreement on the whole subject than it appears from these discussions. The emails look like a lot of disagreements, but perhaps it is more wording than actual disagreement on the ideas and substance. - Alan -- Alan Millar

Re: [Talk-us] Oklahoma WMS?

2010-07-18 Thread Alan Millar
Does anybody have sources for license-compatible WMS servers in Oklahoma? All I am aware of is the USGS data, which is very out of date to the point of inaccuracy around Tulsa and OKC. I've found the USGS choices confusing on how to find the right thing, until recently. This page appears

Re: [Talk-us] Regional Street Centerline Solution - Minneapolis- St. Paul metro area - RFP

2010-07-13 Thread Alan Millar
. This seems like an excellent project for a small OSM-savvy professional firm, or Cloudmade, or similar. Maybe AOL wants to start a patch.com branch in Minneapolis along with an open mapquest project. - Alan -- Alan Millar a...@bolis.com ___ Talk

[Talk-us] simple osm-merge.sh updated for multiple files

2010-07-12 Thread Alan Millar
by Alan Millar - accept more than two files # Process double-quotes if [ $# -lt 2 ]; then echo Usage: $0 a.osm b.osm ... \ new.osm 2 exit fi echo ?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'? echo osm version='0.6' generator='$0' FileNumber=0 while [ $# -gt 0 ] do echo File $FileNumber $1 12 cat

Re: [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-15 Thread Alan Millar
resorts with their own airstrips. But if you know the area, and know there is a golf course there and no airstrip, by all means feel free to fix the map and delete the obsolete airport item. Thanks for keeping an eye out for this stuff. - Alan -- Alan Millar a...@bolis.com

Re: [Talk-us] Resigning in protest

2010-05-12 Thread Alan Millar
the LWG has been going through peoples legitimate and illegitimate concerns for two years I think it's been now. We've had lawyers checking everything at every step of the way. I personally just want to say thank you to the license working group for taking on the thankless job of

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-05 Thread Alan Millar
Perhaps I'm not a typical mapper, but I don't find the existence of bulk imported local data to have been particular inhibiting in my activity level. I don't believe there is any one thing as a typical mapper. But I certainly agree with you myself, and so do many others, as witnessed by

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-20 Thread Alan Millar
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 06:07 +, talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Heh, I didn't even know we had Oregon data available. We didn't at the time. I checked. Metro had (still has) restrictive licensing, and the state did not have any clearing house at the time. - Alan

Re: [Talk-us] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Alan Millar
no one is interested to cleanup crap after a bad import. I am. tiger import was great from technical point of view but didn't allow to build a community from scratch. I didn't want to build anything from scratch. I'm simply not that motivated to go out and wander everywhere mapping

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing Alignments in JOSM

2009-06-24 Thread Alan Millar
However in reality it is a staggered junction. So I need to split the North-South way into two pieces and it intersects the East-West way in two places. Depending on how far off the stagger is, you also may want to consider not splitting it, but just aligning the streets with two extra nodes.

Re: [Talk-us] Addresses and Tiger

2009-05-26 Thread Alan Millar
I have been playing around with the TIGER 2008 data, which, for some of the counties around Atlanta seems to be much better than the old data. If I import it for some of the counties, though, I would like to import the addresses in a format that would be usable for routing software. The most

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Alan Millar
I'd also be very happy if JOSM flipped the tag for me when I edit a tiger object. It seems reasonable enough that if I'm editing something that we can consider it reviewed. I certainly don't want to have to go flip it manually every time I go fixing some minor road details. Good idea. (I

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS Import

2009-04-11 Thread Alan Millar
There's a copy tags feature in JOSM that doesn't seem to work. That's about the only way I know of right now. Pasting tags from node to way did not work for me, as recently as just a few weeks ago. However, I tried it just now on the current version 1515 and it worked. If there are tags on

Re: [Talk-us] gnis:reviewed=no map features

2009-03-29 Thread Alan Millar
if you can put the list of features along with the corrisponding OSM tag to a wiki page, this would be helpful :) (then i can help match features cross-check to what i have) Unfortunately, in the case of my import for USGS Geonames items, they don't have specific feature categories. I'm

Re: [Talk-us] Court of Appeal Rejects Santa Clara County's Basemap Data Sale

2009-02-13 Thread Alan Millar
One wonders what could be motivating the County to continue this very expensive resistance to complying with the PRA. preach audience=choir Probably because Santa Clara is Silicon Valley, where a great amount of the local economy has been based on intellectual property law and issues.

Re: [Talk-us] Tiger 2008 Data

2008-10-29 Thread Alan Millar
does the census bureau publish any sort of a diff, or delta dataset? i'd think that just in terms of raw crunching that having just the differences from year to year would save a lot of work, both manual and CPU-cycles. Not that I've seen. What they do publish is the TLID and TZID numbers in

Re: [Talk-us] intertwined ways in Austin TX

2008-08-02 Thread Alan Millar
Does anyone with knowledge of the script have time to fix things in Austin? Yes, I will take care of it. Thanks for finding it. Well, that was interesting. There were about 200 braided streets in Austin that I found and fixed. They must really like the center island type of street. Let me

Re: [Talk-us] Portland data

2008-07-18 Thread Alan Millar
In the US at least, I didn't think works paid for by the government could have a restrictive copyright claim placed on them. In the US we have several levels of governments. Works created by the nation-wide federal government cannot be copyrighted. However, that does not apply to state,

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Maps of State of Wisconsin, USA

2008-04-08 Thread Alan Millar
It looks like a lot of useful information can be gleaned from this, especially county, township, park, and municipality borders. I'm not sure if, or how, the maps could be used directly without some sort of PDF overlay method in JOSM, or maybe a highly speciallized PDF - OSM converter. I