Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
Een allegaartje van antwoorden en opmerkingen: - Ja, dit is een import (je kopieert data van een andere databank zonder survey) en dus moet je voldoen aan de import procedure. Deze moet dus beschreven worden en voorgelegd worden aan de import lijst. Een van de voorwaarden is een specifieke

Re: [OSM-talk-be] JOSM memory eater

2014-10-23 Thread Glenn Plas
Onder Ubuntu zit de cache folder in je home directory. standaard install : glenn@slicky:~/.josm-latest/cache$ Daar staat subdir wms bij mij. Glenn On 22-10-14 19:51, Verhoeven Fr wrote: Men kan de cache folder wijzigen van TMS, voor WMS vind ik niets, ook niet in de nieuwe JOSM versie van

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Glenn Plas
De problemen met Chrome zijn voorbij, Sander heeft de fix gemaakt en nu werkt het prima voor mij vanmorgend. Probeer nog eens! Glenn - Ik heb Chrome gebruikt (te lui om ook Firefox te installeren) en hoopte dat dat ook zou werken. Sander, Welke vieze trucks heb je gebruikt omdat het enkel op

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Jo
Ik heb gisterenavond een straat met een tiental huisnummers ingetekend in Drogenbos. Het probleem dat ik dan echter heb, is dat op de AGIV-luchtfoto's zoveel detail te zien is, dat dat ook weer een changeset met 250 objecten geworden is... Maar dan staan alle opritten, parkings e.d. er ook meteen

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Hey Marc, 2014-10-23 8:29 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com: - Het is nu de bedoeling dat de gemeenten de huizen gaan intekenen (meen ik begrepen te hebben van Gilbert). Volgens zijn contact persoon tekenen zij ook de huizen in vanaf de luchtfoto's. Moeten we daar niet nog eens

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
2014-10-23 10:18 GMT+02:00 Jo winfi...@gmail.com: Nog 1 opmerking. Ik kan niet overal persoonlijk gaan surveyen, vooral dan in verband met de bushaltes. We hebben tegenwoordig echter een Notessysteem dat degelijk werkt. Als er ergens onzekerheid over een adres is, lijkt het mij het beste om

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Glenn Plas
Vergeet Q niet om mooie vierkante buildings te maken. Glenn On 23-10-14 10:44, Marc Gemis wrote: 2014-10-23 10:18 GMT+02:00 Jo winfi...@gmail.com mailto:winfi...@gmail.com: Nog 1 opmerking. Ik kan niet overal persoonlijk gaan surveyen, vooral dan in verband met de bushaltes. We

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Verhoeven Fr
Hooi Sander, Ik heb op een desktop onder Ubuntu http://sanderd17.github.io/import.htm http://sanderd17.github.io/import.html uitgeprobeerd op 2400, *, vinkje, 10 De eerste kolom verscheen snel maar andere gegevens bleven hangen op de Kolkstraat, daarna niets meer. Dit verschillende malen.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Beginnersvraag: 2X open josm, uploaden sample.osm

2014-10-23 Thread Jo
Je moet al een computer met veel geheugen hebben om JOSM meerdere keren op te starten en het is inderdaad nagenoeg nooit nodig. De enige reden die ik kan bedenken, is van toen ik scriptjes aan het schrijven/uittesten was die JOSM zouden kunnen laten crashen. JOSM zelf is ondertussen veel

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
inderdaad, voor 2840 Rumst heb ik nu Total 6046 Missing 1774 (29.34%) Missing w/o pos 215 (4.15%) Wrong 113 (1.87%) bwa, zo weet een mens weer wat doen :-) 2014-10-23 9:04 GMT+02:00 Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be: De problemen met Chrome zijn voorbij, Sander heeft de fix gemaakt en nu

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Beginnersvraag: 2X open josm, uploaden sample.osm

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
sluit ik me bij aan. als ik foto's gemaakt heb, zet ik ook nog een source_ref met een link naar de fotogallerij op de changeset. 'k vind het wat overdreven om de individuele foto bij elk ding te plaatsen. Hoewel me dat al een keer goed is bevallen omdat ik een firehydrant verkeerd had getagged.

[OSM-talk-be] Negeer dit bericht testen thunderbird

2014-10-23 Thread Jakka
Kan niet beantwoorden. Controleer nu of ik rechtstreeks kan posten ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas
Bij mij werkt alles inmiddels weer prima. Mogelijk was het probleem aan mezelf te wijten en heb ik per ongeluk de niet-laatste variant van JOSM opgestart na een crash eerder gisteravond. Deze variant ging inderdaad niet goed om met het request vanuit de browser, zoals Sander al eerder

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
In zo'n geval probeer ik vooral naar de tuinafscheidingen te kijken. die zijn veel lager en geven een minder grote afwijking 2014-10-23 13:56 GMT+02:00 Thomas o...@aptum.nl: Bij mij werkt alles inmiddels weer prima. Mogelijk was het probleem aan mezelf te wijten en heb ik per ongeluk de

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Glenn Plas
Ha, Zo te zien heeft Sus perongeluk shift-lock opstaan, ik ben een qwerty man maar dit lijkt toch sterk op dat dit nummer 25 moet zijn op azerty. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Belgian_keyboard_layout.png/720px-Belgian_keyboard_layout.png misschien als sideshow dit

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Sander Deryckere
Op 23 oktober 2014 14:07 schreef Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be: Ha, Zo te zien heeft Sus perongeluk shift-lock opstaan, ik ben een qwerty man maar dit lijkt toch sterk op dat dit nummer 25 moet zijn op azerty.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Beginnersvraag: 2X open josm, uploaden sample.osm

2014-10-23 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-10-23 11:04, Jakka wrote : Dag, Had reeds vastgesteld dat ik bij gewoon mappen validatie fouten opmerkingen krijg bij uploaden. Vraag 1: Mag ik twee maal JOSM openen (conflicten?) Had already found

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
Sander, is het mogelijk dat een straat met een accent in, je scriptje of de html/JavaScript in de problemen brengt ? 2840 Rumst, werken de missing numbers tot aan de Seringenlaan, maar vanaf 's Herenbaan werkt het niet meer. voor de straat laat hij iets totaal anders, voor de ontbrekende nummers

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Sander Deryckere
Op 23 oktober 2014 17:47 schreef Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com: Sander, is het mogelijk dat een straat met een accent in, je scriptje of de html/JavaScript in de problemen brengt ? 2840 Rumst, werken de missing numbers tot aan de Seringenlaan, maar vanaf 's Herenbaan werkt het niet meer.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Verhoeven Fr
Sander, De kolkstraat 25 is een fout van mij en is al verbeterdt. Nu krijg ik de volledige lijst op de desktop Ubuntu. Maar wanneer ik op een van de getallen het schermke load in JOSM aanklik dat springt de pointer gewoon enkele regels verder en niets anders. Moet JOSM dan gewoon openen ? Op

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Sander Deryckere
JOSM moet aan staan voordat je die links kan gebruiken (misschien moet ik daar ook een popup voor maken, zoals op osm.org). Op 23 oktober 2014 20:24 schreef Verhoeven Fr sus...@gmail.com: Sander, De kolkstraat 25 is een fout van mij en is al verbeterdt. Nu krijg ik de volledige lijst op de

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
Geen probleem voor de associatedStreet relatie, ik heb nu expliciet addr:street opgezet Dat was mijn oudere tagwijze, die ik op heel wat plaatsen al heb aangepast, maar blijkbaar nog niet daar. Nummer 98 staat er nog maar iets meer dan een jaar, dus best mogelijk dat die nog niet in Crab staat.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
Inderdaad Sus, om de links onder de nummertjes te laten werken, moet je JOSM draaien. Het moet bovendien de laatste versie zijn, die eerder deze week is vrijgegeven. Verder moet je de Remote Control van JOSM aanzetten. met vriendelijke groeten m 2014-10-23 20:24 GMT+02:00 Verhoeven Fr

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Negeer dit bericht testen thunderbird

2014-10-23 Thread Jakka
Jakka schreef op 23/10/2014 om 13:53: Kan niet beantwoorden. Controleer nu of ik rechtstreeks kan posten ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be knop allen beantwoorden eens testen

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Negeer dit bericht testen thunderbird

2014-10-23 Thread Jo
Die werkt wel. Jo Op 23 oktober 2014 21:18 schreef Jakka vdmfrank...@gmail.com: Jakka schreef op 23/10/2014 om 13:53: Kan niet beantwoorden. Controleer nu of ik rechtstreeks kan posten ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Verhoeven Fr
In Ubuntu op de desktop werkt het nu :-) . Morgen probeer ik de netbook onder Win8.1 Bedankt iedereen voor al de moeite. Sus Le 23/10/14 20:47, Marc Gemis a écrit : Inderdaad Sus, om de links onder de nummertjes te laten werken, moet je JOSM draaien. Het moet bovendien de laatste versie

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Jo
Nadat ik die geladen heb, zie ik de nodes niet zo duidelijk. Dus MapCSS to the rescue: node[addr:housenumber]:new::housenumber {text-color: blue; font-size: 25; text: tag(addr:housenumber); text-halo-radius: 2; text-offset-y: 30;} Enkel de nieuwe nodes worden er uit gelicht. Jo Op 23

[OSM-talk-be] Weekly OSM

2014-10-23 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Hi, I would like to announce a new thing I am trying to do that is very simple but should introduce some continuity in our communication. I have posted the first translation of the Weekly OSM blog in dutch on osm.be: http://osm.be/nl/content/weekly-osm-news-221 Someone can translate into french

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Sander Deryckere
Jo, als je wil, dan kan ik ook optioneel enkele tags toevoegen aan de nodes. Zodat je per type node (geïmporteerd, verkeerd, zonder positie, ...) een eigen stijl kan kiezen (natuurlijk moeten die extra tags wel verwijderd worden voor het uploaden. Weet niet als je dit handig vindt, maar het is

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Thomas
Ik heb nu de CRAB-data voor een hele verzameling straten in en rond Oostende bestudeerd. In het algemeen vind ik dat de data vrij nauwkeurig is. Een enkele keer merkte ik op dat twee naast elkaar gelegen huisnummers met elkaar omgewisseld lijken te zijn. In werkelijkheid nummert alles gewoon

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
er bestaat een mogelijkheid om tags toe te voegen aan JOSM die moeten verwijderd worden tijdens de upload. Kijk eens op dit draadje http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=27234 (dacht ik toch) groeten m 2014-10-23 23:07 GMT+02:00 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com: Jo, als je wil,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
dan heb je geluk. In mijn regio is het veel slechter gesteld met de kwaliteit. ZN is waarschijnlijk zonder nummer, een kapel ? een kerk ? in Edegem is er ook een bibliotheek zonder nummer. m 2014-10-24 1:13 GMT+02:00 Thomas o...@aptum.nl: Ik heb nu de CRAB-data voor een hele verzameling

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-23 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 12:24:10PM -0700, Kate Chapman wrote: I'd say the size of the board to me is not necessarily the issue. I do think however having a board elected completely just from the OSMF membership isn't the best approach. Those elected from OSM contributors (I frequently have

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
Hi, On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 03:47:03PM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: In theory, the OSMF members are the boss and board is just a group of people asked by the members to run business for them until they convene next time. In similar organisations I know in Germany, it is absolutely not

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
First question: how do you build the world's best addressable map ? Through imports or survey ? Is the timeframe that Martin puts forward fur surveyed addresses acceptable and feasible ? As for the imports: Wouldn't it be great that we would have import tools that can be used by many groups ?

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/23/2014 08:57 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: Wouldn't it be great that we would have import tools that can be used by many groups ? As far as addresses are concerned, there's OpenAddresses (the US version, not the older Swiss project) that collects openly licensed address data and to my

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Simon Poole
Am 23.10.2014 08:22, schrieb Sarah Hoffmann: .. It very clear states the obligations of a board member with respect to board meetings and transparency. How does the board hold its individual members accountable for following the rules of order? How can the OSMF membership hold board

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-23 8:57 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com: Is the timeframe that Martin puts forward fur surveyed addresses acceptable and feasible ? I believe for surveyed addresses it is completely unrealistic - if our active user base continues to grow like it did in the past 3 years,

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-23 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
I usually map house numbers on Sunday morning when there is less traffic. I use bicycle and a specialized application for smartphone for collecting address (with a smartphone stylus). It is better to map addressable first, say, 30 large buildings where 1000 people live or work, than 60 small

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
I like addresses but they don't behave like you would think. For example we have a part of a street that has each individual flat as its own address number. We first used the number;number;number; approach but I'm now in favor of naming the house what it says on the front (the range 37-51) and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Kathleen Danielson
There has been some discussion between Michael, the board and myself on changing the inner workings of the OSMF a bit which potentially could address some of the remaining issues, however these are at a very early discussion stage. Simon, would you care to shed light on this? This seems

Re: [OSM-talk] Applications to the Local Chapter Agreement

2014-10-23 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
On behalf of the Icelandic applicants we are fairly sure that we are the only ones representing our area and we will strive hard to include others who will be or are interested in the area. We have a small blurb in English about us on our webpage, the OSM affiliation would be presented under

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
I agree that addresses is a complicated field. There are different historical systems, there are cities where even many streets are without names, etc. There is a lot of space for innovation, certainly. What I meant is that it is not obligatory to map a city or a town addressable from one end to

[OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread David Cuenca
There are many people who record both a gps trace and a video of their itinerary. Do you think it would be viable to use these videos as a sort of street view by associating the frames to a location? When there is no gps trace, it could be done by interpolation, defining synchronization points

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
I think you are looking for Mapillary! Mapillary images are now built into the iD editor, if you go into Background settings you can check the Photo Overlay (Mapillary) option and see images from there. Example area: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=18/64.08253/-21.80923 Þann

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
It is possible to upload photos to the Crowdsourced Street Level Photos http://www.mapillary.com/ from its smartphone application or manually. The photos just must have the following EXIF tags: [GPSLongitude] [GPSLatitude] [DateTimeOriginal,DateTimeDigitized,DateTime,GPSDateStamp] [Orientation]

[OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Simon Poole wrote: Kathleen Danielson wrote: That said, I would like to voice my support for Richard's suggestion that the full board step down. It simply is a very unrealistic option given that it would require a mechanism that doesn't exist to force all board members to resign. Absolutely

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Frankly, I don't get all the brouhaha about addresses. Yes, geocoding is commercially interesting, but is it interesting for us as a project? Are So don't you expect pressure from companies using OSM for navigation and

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread David Cuenca
The business activity of the for-profit company Mapillary is not new. Before it was acquired by Google, Panoramio did the same: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panoramio I don't see any point in working for free for a private company so they can sell their services to third parties. I was asking

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Simon Poole
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Video_mapping and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Video_Mapping_with_the_ContourGPS_Helmet_Camera It is my preferred way of surveying if not on foot. There are numerous problems, for example current affordable video cams tend to not have enough resolution

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
Well all the images are under CC-BY-SA license http://www.mapillary.com/legal.html I don't see anyone at the moment making another non-profit solution that gives an instant benefit to OSM (via iD editor). Storage space and bandwidth are never free while volunteer time is, wether it is

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread David Cuenca
Simon,thanks for sharing, it is really cool to see that there are so many possibilities! And now with 360° HD cameras getting cheaper, maybe it would be possible to use them for locating street numbers. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: See

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
I mapped house numbers in this area http://osm.org/go/0CFtB2b71-- As you can see there are service roads with private access. I never had any problem to cycle on these roads, note the numbers and put down numbers into a smartphone application. But I would not want to film with a video-camera

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/23/2014 01:25 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Absolutely no force required. I would hope that the existing board members would recognise the virtue of a fresh mandate and a clean start. A radical step, but I like it. I'd be more than happy to withdraw my candidacy if there was a spirit

[OSM-talk] Fwd: An engaged electorate

2014-10-23 Thread Richard Weait
-- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com Date: Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:50 AM Subject: An engaged electorate To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org Talk@ and osmf-talk@ posts suggest that we have an engaged electorate. Candidates should

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-23 13:59 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com: And now with 360° HD cameras getting cheaper, maybe it would be possible to use them for locating street numbers. From my findings the time you are saving by recording everything instead of selecting at surveytime what you want to

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2014-10-23 11:20, David Cuenca wrote: There are many people who record both a gps trace and a video of their itinerary. Do you think it would be viable to use these videos as a sort of street view by associating the frames to a location? When there is no gps trace, it could be done by

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/23/2014 08:22 AM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: The problem is that I don't see where the membership has any leverge on the board apart from the elections. We have had discussions about transparency before but they have been utterly fruitless so far. A good part of the current members has

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-23 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I'd go along with this to some extent; I certainly don't think OSM should be primarily about addressing as Steve's email appears to indicate. It should be about whatever we as mappers want it to be. If addressing's your thing, then fine, do it, but if it isn't, that's fine also. I don't think

[OSM-talk] Overpass turbo Has it been amended?

2014-10-23 Thread Dave F.
Hi Has the wizard in Overpass Turbo been updated in the past couple of days, or have I somehow amend its way of working? Looked in the wiki but could see no mention. Wizard query of landuse=recreation_ground produces a much less verbose query (No 'query' or 'k=' etc) /* This has been

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: End of hypothetical situation. It is obvious that something has gone wrong, but what, and how could it have been better? Can we expect board members to report to the membership about the (perceived?) lack of performance

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Hans De Kryger
I completely agree with David. I disagree with mapillary's terms of service. Regards, Hans On Oct 23, 2014 6:03 AM, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 2014-10-23 11:20, David Cuenca wrote: There are many people who record both a gps trace and a video of their itinerary. Do you

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Mike Thompson
Does anyone know if the video plugin for JOSM works under Windows? I tried it about a year ago and couldn't get it to work. If it is not working, is anyone working on a fix or another video plugin? Mike On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson j...@betra.is wrote: Well all

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Tom MacWright
Panoramio didn't state any open license for uploaded content, so it was easy for them to go closed with Google. Mapillary does, so it should be as safe as contributing data to OSM, in terms of what happens if it all goes away or becomes evil. I'm sure that everyone would be very supportive of a

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Simon Poole
It has all kinds of problems not that they are not fixable, but stuff like assuming a fixed 1s GPS recording interval and similar and AFAIK there was never a stable version released. Given that one of the nice things about videos is that you don't actually need an exact position for them to be

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Sorry-- looks like I forgot to copy the whole list. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Frederik, You've got a few really interesting ideas in here. Some quick questions: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Frederik Ramm

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Simon Poole
Sorry for sounding like a broken record to some: there are no EGMs or AGMs any more under UK law, there are simply general meetings, there is not even a requirement to have any at all (that is why we are suggesting adding such a clause to the articles at the GM in Argentina) and you could just as

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2014-10-23 16:59, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On 23/10/2014 15:00, Craig Wallace wrote: taking a photo every second, or maybe every 5 or 10 seconds, depends on what you are surveying and how fast you are moving. Do none of those cameras offer the logical alternative to timelapse - a

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread steve
I'm adding OSMF-talk since it concerns what I outlined in the original “vision statement” email. I was perhaps too specific and jumped ahead saying “world’s best addressable map”. What I really mean is the “world's most complete open map”. There are three pieces to a modern map. There's the

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread Toby Murray
I am interested in this as well. I have two Biking Across Kansas tours worth of video and GPS traces that I still haven't gotten around to processing into map data yet. I briefly looked at the JOSM video plugin a while ago and, like someone else reported, couldn't get it working. Maybe once I

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:56 AM, st...@asklater.com wrote: I'm adding OSMF-talk since it concerns what I outlined in the original “vision statement” email. I was perhaps too specific and jumped ahead saying “world’s best addressable map”. What I really mean is the “world's most complete

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
This is selfevident. Without more or less complete addresses the map cannot be used in, say, an ambulance application, or in a delivery service application, etc. It is unusable. But if there is a /critical mass/ of addresses for a town or a city, then the rest could be completed by the same

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
Thanks for creating this project in the first place Steve. In an interview earlier this year you said pretty much the same thing. I believe this is a vital step forward in the First World countries where other competing solutions, both local and global, are not delivering enough. However I

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Stefan Keller
Hi Kate 2014-10-23 16:37 GMT+02:00 Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Perhaps the issues in the board is a lack of respect for each other. I don't see any disrespect from Simon when he referred to you speaking about you (and others) wishing to see more OSMF members. On the other hand I

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-23 Thread David Cuenca
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: But you can do this with TriggerTrap mobile app. It works with a dongle to control a variety of cameras. It has a 'distancelapse' mode, nice tutorial here: http://howto.triggertrap.com/howto/road-trip-timelapse/ Nice

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread David Cuenca
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 6:56 PM, st...@asklater.com wrote: What I really mean is the “world's most complete open map”. There are three pieces to a modern map. There's the display piece, the routing and the geocoding. We won the display piece. It looks great. We are ok at routing. Not

[OSM-talk] Een klein verhaaltje / A little story

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
Via de tool van Sander zag ik een straat waar ik nog geen huis nummers van had. Het was verleidelijk om de nummers gewoon snel te copiëren. Maar omdat ik toch met de honden buiten moest, besloot ik maar om een ommetje te maken langs die voor mij onbekende straat. Wat bracht deze kleine survey op

[OSM-talk] AGM announcements

2014-10-23 Thread Rob Nickerson
Simon wrote: The scheduling issue is real and it flatly wouldn't have been possible to formally announce in time (which would have had to been 60 days back to give enough time to avoid the cut off without undue haste). The solution to this will likely be to disassociate GM scheduling from the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: What if we had some sort of compromise, and we asked the membership if we could hold another AGM in 3 months, followed 2 weeks (or so) later by an election? We've already talked about decoupling it from

[OSM-talk] Candidate reminder: Membership status and questions to canidates

2014-10-23 Thread Paul Norman
This a reminder to candidates that board members need to be members, not associate members. You should contact members...@osmfoundation.org to change your status from associate member to member if needed. I am not sure what would happen if someone with the most votes was not eligible to be a

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Johan C
2014-10-23 8:57 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com: First question: how do you build the world's best addressable map ? Through imports or survey ? Is the timeframe that Martin puts forward fur surveyed addresses acceptable and feasible ? As for the imports: Wouldn't it be great

[OSM-talk] Simon Poole resigns

2014-10-23 Thread Rob Nickerson
I've only spotted this on OSMF-talk so far but feel it should be shared here: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2014-October/002773.html I'm still reading through the OSMF-talk mailing list, but so far it looks like Simon has not yet provided any reason (which is fine for now

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
It was not my intention to set up a full-automatic import. I wanted to come to a automatic process where the data is made available to mappers for import. E.g. the complete tool chain used by the Dutch import could be available to other countries. So they can easily use the same programs,

Re: [Talk-it] Confronto DUG di OSM con ISTAT

2014-10-23 Thread Daniele Forsi
Il 22 ottobre 2014 20:01, girarsi_liste ha scritto: Senz'altro è comodo, ma qualche riga di documentazione anche sarebbe comodo, sennò non si capisce a cosa riferisce l'erroe. sì, serve più documentazione più che errori, sono solo nomi che iniziano con parole che l'ISTAT non conosce: per

Re: [Talk-it] Confronto DUG di OSM con ISTAT

2014-10-23 Thread Daniele Forsi
Il 23 ottobre 2014 00:30, Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto: Dalle mie parti ci sono molti Casali X, Case Y. Posso considerarli falsi positivi? Tieni conto che probabilmente i civici avranno addr:place piuttosto che addr:streetname. non sono falsi positivi, piuttosto un disallineamento tra i dati

Re: [Talk-it] Una mappa migliore Fwd: [OSM-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-23 Thread Aury88
Cristian Consonni wrote Steve dice: * dobbiamo concentrarci sugli indirizzi sono assolutamente d'accordo che questo sia uno dei punti deboli di osm ma lo trovo fisiologico dei progetti crowdsource il fatto che certi temi vengano approfonditi (per noi = a mappati) di più di altri in base alla

Re: [Talk-it] Una mappa migliore Fwd: [OSM-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-22 14:23 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com: Steve dice: * dobbiamo concentrarci sugli indirizzi non è mica la prima volta che lo dice. Per il suo attuale datore di lavoro (Telenav) è sicuramente importante per competere con chi usa dati proprietarie (loro al momento

Re: [Talk-it] Contest Open-Matera

2014-10-23 Thread tommasogre...@yahoo.it
Buon giorno Il Contest Open-Matera è un'iniziativa molto interessante, leggendo il bando però mi sembra di aver capito che è possibile utilizzare solo le fonti messe a disposizione del comune a questo link http://dati.comune.matera.it/ Non so se sia possibile integrare i loro contenuti con

Re: [Talk-it] Una mappa migliore Fwd: [OSM-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-23 Thread Luca Delucchi
2014-10-23 10:47 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2014-10-22 14:23 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com: Steve dice: * dobbiamo concentrarci sugli indirizzi non è mica la prima volta che lo dice. Per il suo attuale datore di lavoro (Telenav) è

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-22 17:39 GMT+02:00 girarsi_liste liste.gira...@gmail.com: http://www.emmexx.it/varie/osm/sempione/DSC_0061.JPG L'ultima la trovo più chiara, è divieto di accesso per la normale circolazione, eccetto pedoni, biciclette, scarico merci e tram/autobus. +1 faccio notare che c'è

Re: [Talk-it] Una mappa migliore Fwd: [OSM-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-23 Thread Laura Camellini
Il giorno 23 ottobre 2014 11:18, Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2014-10-23 10:47 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2014-10-22 14:23 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com: * abbiamo bisogno di board (per OSMf) più snello e funzionante,

Re: [Talk-it] Contest Open-Matera

2014-10-23 Thread Francesco Piero Paolicelli
Devi usare almeno 1 dataset Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 23/ott/2014, alle ore 10:52, tommasogre...@yahoo.it tommasogre...@yahoo.it ha scritto: Buon giorno Il Contest Open-Matera è un'iniziativa molto interessante, leggendo il bando però mi sembra di aver capito che è possibile

[Talk-it] HOT su wired.it

2014-10-23 Thread michele ferretti
Oggi su Wired.it c'è un articolo su HOT: http://www.wired.it/attualita/media/2014/10/23/ebola-come-si-combatte-mappe-in-crowdsourcing/ Saluti a tutti, m. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-23 Thread emmexx
Il 10/23/2014 11:49 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer scrisse: faccio notare che c'è anche segnaletica orizzontale, non si vede tutto, ma si leggono al meno tram e taxi, (scritte che riservano l'utilizzo della strada alle classe di veicoli indicate). Si', ma come ho gia' scritto la segnaletica

Re: [Talk-it] HOT su wired.it

2014-10-23 Thread Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi
uhm... l'articolo di fatto è una rielaborazione di quello di co.labs... l'articolo di Wired è CCBYNCND... quel ND mi fa storcere il naso visto che è lui stesso un derivato da co.labs a parte quello è una buona rielaborazione di quello di co.labs Il giorno 23 ottobre 2014 13:34, michele ferretti

[Talk-it] [OT] GraphHopper e guadi

2014-10-23 Thread emmexx
Chiedo qui preventivamente perche' magari qualcuno e' gia' al corrente. Ho provato a calcolare un percorso a piedi con GraphHopper lungo dei sentieri. Il routing pero' si ferma in quei nodi in cui c'e' il tag ford=yes. Questo puo' essere ragionevole ma penso che il piu' delle volte si tratti

Re: [Talk-it] Una mappa migliore Fwd: [OSM-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-23 Thread Max1234Ita
I mappatori vanno anche invogliati a comiere certe operazioni. Perchè quasi nessuno si prende la briga di mappare i civici direttamente sul campo? Perché è un'operazione p@llos@, IMHO, naturalmente. Bisogna posizionarli con precisione, ricordarsi di inserire i campi necessari... e poi i numeri

Re: [Talk-it] Una mappa migliore Fwd: [OSM-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-23 Thread Leonardo Frassetto
Il nuovo Vespucci ha la funzione di autocompletamento e suggerimento dei civici lungo una via (avendo la connessione dati attiva o scaricandosi la porzione di territorio e caricandola sul cellulare). L'ho provata e non è niente male. Onestamente non capisco tutto questo astio verso gli import, se

Re: [Talk-it] [OT] GraphHopper e guadi

2014-10-23 Thread Mauro Costantini
Una intersezione tra highway e waterway si presenta generalmente in due modi: 1. Le due ways sono su livelli diversi (è esplicitato layer=*) e vanno inseriti bridge, tunnel, culvert dove applicabili. 2. Le due ways sono sullo stesso layer (solitamente omesso) e va inserito ford=yes. In questo

Re: [Talk-it] [OT] GraphHopper e guadi

2014-10-23 Thread Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: emmexx [mailto:emm...@tiscalinet.it] Sent: giovedì 23 ottobre 2014 13:46 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: [Talk-it] [OT] GraphHopper e guadi Volevo capire se si tratta di un limite (o di una scelta) di graphhopper o se e' errata la mappatura dei guadi.

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