Re: Gig bag essential

[Trey Young]

14strings,
  that looks like something I could use, I can't help but wonder if the 
astounding licks goes up to 11 though? 
 
 





From: 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:36:55 PM
Subject: Gig bag essential


For those who have to plug in once in a while I just posted an
essential tool in the file section

http://taterbugmando.googlegroups.com/web/Simulator-2%20copy.jpg?gda=GNz7gEYAAABGx_gucb2tc0OlviU9aM6UzibluvxR3ReLfXb4EGBYL8285SK11HjQ4p0aFGgtZKtZJHP4N61vT0LAp83YGA48E-Ea7GxYMt0t6nY0uV5FIQgsc=gdL70xYAAABug28noHfmfnmSuoPfErY5g-kXU5InE09W2o0GCSVgCQ


  
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Re: Gig bag essential

[Trey Young]

What's this Spinal Tap I seriously need equipment that goes to 11...
 
 





From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 2:06:17 PM
Subject: Re: Gig bag essential


Whoops. Caught me...
Tater

On Feb 4, 12:05 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now I was wondering when the Spinal Tap quotes would start

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:57 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:



  Sustain.can't you hear the sustain? I'll take two and a fresh
  battery.
  puhtater

  On Feb 3, 8:21 pm, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
   14strings,
     that looks like something I could use, I can't help but wonder if the
  astounding licks goes up to 11 though?

   
   From: 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com
   To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:36:55 PM
   Subject: Gig bag essential

   For those who have to plug in once in a while I just posted an
   essential tool in the file section

  http://taterbugmando.googlegroups.com/web/Simulator-2%20copy.jpg?gda=...


  
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Re: Happy Birthday Mr. Tate R. Bug

[Trey Young]

Happy Birthday Mr. Tater Bug
 
 





From: Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:04:56 PM
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mr. Tate R. Bug


It seems I will also be turning 23 tomorrow, and here I thought all
Tater and I had in common was our boyish good looks and charm.

Unfortunately I think I have to do a recording session playing the
banjo tomorrow. Birthdays always seem to get ruined. = )

Happy Birthday Mike.



On Feb 27, 9:37 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since it is not a leap year, Sir-Spuds-A-Lot will be officially one
 year older tomorrow.

 Happy early birthday Mike.

 Brian


  
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Re: personal youtube videos

[Trey Young]

finally posted something, it's not the greatest showing, but it's the best I've 
got on tape...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXjaLvk8pZ0
and it's on Tatertube.
 
 





From: sec...@bellsouth.net sec...@bellsouth.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 8:44:25 PM
Subject: Re: personal youtube videos


 Awesome, Karen. Clean as a whistle. 
-- Original message from karenth...@aol.com: -- 


 http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.showvidsfriendID=250410447n=
  
 250410447MyToken=819c0da1-3263-442f-9c88-ca250044f4a9 
 
 I've been inspired to stop lurking and post something. Its been great 
 seeing everyone's videos - very inspiring. For some reason, I keep 
 getting error messages when I try to post to youtube, so I added this 
 video to my myspace page. 
 
 Karen 
 
 
  


  
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Re: Tater on the Cafe

[Trey Young]

+1 on the idea of a book from Mr. Tater.  I think it would be very cool to have 
an instructional book combined with stories from the road with Mr. Hartford 
and stories about experiences with Mr. Monroe.  
 
 





From: JakeyLee fortpo...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:06:54 AM
Subject: Re: Tater on the Cafe


Wow, I'm disappointed that Bill abbreviated the list of upcoming
projects in his published article.  I had no clue about the work with
EC.  I was able to find a clip of a Letterman performance with EC,
Rosanne Cash, Larry Campbell, and Todd Phillips: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF1txVDFDck

Looking forward to checking out your additions to his upcoming album.
Was this your second time working with T Bone Burnett as a producer?
You must be on his short list of go-to mandolin players after your
tasty playing on the Oh, Brother... soundtrack.

All of the projects you mention sound really exciting.  Can't wait to
hear em!

-Jake


On Mar 21, 11:06 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 And do you suppose, Mr. Sandstone, that my professional reputation
 should be able to stand repeated forays into the hinterlands of
 telling the truth as I see it? I mean, there IS such a thing as
 karma. There seems to be a point where it all is meaningless in the
 scheme of things anyway, and all the motions made outside applying
 one's trade for the sheer joy of it are only an exercise in going
 backwards.

 I suppose I could publish my answers without the questions. No harm
 there. Very well...

 Bill,
 Thanks for your questions. I'll make an effort to be economical in my
 answers...

 1) So far, the main obstacle or roadblock as you called it, to
 learning Monroe style seems to be the right hand technique of the
 style. Many people have a hard time using tremolo as the main exponent
 to creating melody, to keeping the right hand moving and not giving in
 to the temptation to playing somewhat erratic right hand patterns. I
 have found that the fiddle kinship with Monroe's right hand technique
 seems to require that the right hand keep moving and making the
 motions, even when the string is not struck, sort of a phantom stroke
 to keep the notes emphasized the right way. The tendency in people not
 used to using this technique is to change pick direction only on the
 next note in the melody. There is sort of a going backwards in time
 that needs to be done, back to the time in string bands when fiddles
 were the main instrument of choice rather than electric guitars, when
 a bow stroke or tremolo was the means of playing a sustained tone
 rather than striking a note once and counting on an amplifier to do
 the rest.

 One of the other primary changes in thinking needs to come with an
 understanding of using chord voicings to find melody and harmony
 rather than using a more linear approach, playing more out of boxes
 rather than running lengthwise up and down the fingerboard. But to me,
 the hardest part and also the smartest part of the style is how Monroe
 could suggest passages to the listener without actually spelling the
 idea out. Dealing with abstract melodic ideas is a bit more
 challenging to understand I think.

 As far as mastering the style, I don't know that it's possible to
 really accomplish that feat in one lifetime. There's so much to know
 and really, I've only begun to scratch the surface myself.

 2) I think that Monroe would be very proud to know that his music has
 maintained so much interest in the modern day that entire camps are
 devoted to better understanding and use the style he created.

 3) You have made a number of references to blues licks in your
 questions so far. Sure, there is a lot of blues in Monroe's music. I
 think that it's one of the ingredients that I like the best, if not
 the one that effects me strongest. You refer to modern players as
 being very smooth and polished and I'll agree with your comments. I
 will say that I do not agree that Monroe was always ragged and
 without polish. I suggest you listen to a lot more Monroe. There are
 plenty examples of his work that show impeccably clean technique. What
 you will NOT find is careful music. I do not think that perfection is
 necessarily the object of expression. Squeaky clean and careful music
 bores me anyway. I would rather have music that shows commitment and
 emotional content than all the spit and polish in the world. To each
 his own, I guess, but I'd rather the music I listen to be
 unpredictable.

 I wouldn't presume  to know what was going through Monroe's head when
 he played. I'm sure that some of the Bluegrass Boys could more
 accurately describe his thought processes and intentions than I could.
 I'm sure Kenny Baker could. He's quoted as saying he knew what Bill
 was trying to do. I'd sure like to know what that is myself. I do
 think that Bill allowed his muse to take him wherever it led, that his
 

Re: Good live stuff

[Trey Young]

WOW! This is great!
 
 





From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:14:15 AM
Subject: Good live stuff


Saw this on the Cafe and thought I would pass it along to the Tater Crowd. 
www.sugarmegs.org. If you go to the search function and let it load up the text 
listing of all its files there's a TON of Monroe and other appealing live 
content. The sets download in a single file, which is a little ponderous for 
searching, but beggars can't be choosers. Just passing along. Listening to an 
excellent Monroe show from 1958 right now. 


  
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Re: Good live stuff

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Check out the Hartford Show from 5-30-1997--it seems to be a quality 
recording.
 is that the one from Athens, GA?  if so I have that show (from the SPPS) and 
it is a great show.  Awesome version of Bonaparte's Retreat.
 
 





From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:35:15 PM
Subject: Re: Good live stuff


Check out the Hartford Show from 5-30-1997--it seems to be a quality recording. 




From: Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:13:26 PM
Subject: Re: Good live stuff

amazing. There is so much on there. The next ipod has to have a warning sign on 
it: the amount of music you have left to listen to lasts longer than you are 
likely to live





On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:

WOW! This is great!
 
 





From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:14:15 AM
Subject: Good live stuff



Saw this on the Cafe and thought I would pass it along to the Tater Crowd. 
www.sugarmegs.org. If you go to the search function and let it load up the text 
listing of all its files there's a TON of Monroe and other appealing live 
content. The sets download in a single file, which is a little ponderous for 
searching, but beggars can't be choosers. Just passing along. Listening to an 
excellent Monroe show from 1958 right now. 








  
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Re: Good live stuff

[Trey Young]

I believe Jerry McCoury was on bass that night...I have this show and the next 
night's show (which was in N. Carolina) and I know one of them had McCoury and 
the other had Larry Perkins.
 
 





From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 6:02:22 PM
Subject: Re: Good live stuff


That's exactly the one. Seems like Mike, Hartford and a bass player whose name 
escapes me at the moment. I don't know if it's a soundboard recording or just a 
very imposing taper, but it's really good. 




From: Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 5:48:47 PM
Subject: Re: Good live stuff


Check out the Hartford Show from 5-30-1997--it seems to be a quality 
recording.
 is that the one from Athens, GA?  if so I have that show (from the SPPS) and 
it is a great show.  Awesome version of Bonaparte's Retreat.
 
 





From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:35:15 PM
Subject: Re: Good live stuff


Check out the Hartford Show from 5-30-1997--it seems to be a quality recording. 




From: Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:13:26 PM
Subject: Re: Good live stuff

amazing. There is so much on there. The next ipod has to have a warning sign on 
it: the amount of music you have left to listen to lasts longer than you are 
likely to live





On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:

WOW! This is great!
 
 





From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:14:15 AM
Subject: Good live stuff



Saw this on the Cafe and thought I would pass it along to the Tater Crowd. 
www.sugarmegs.org. If you go to the search function and let it load up the text 
listing of all its files there's a TON of Monroe and other appealing live 
content. The sets download in a single file, which is a little ponderous for 
searching, but beggars can't be choosers. Just passing along. Listening to an 
excellent Monroe show from 1958 right now. 











  
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Re: Mike's New CD

[Trey Young]

I don't know how ya'll recognized him with all that nose work he's had done...
 
 





From: Fred fkel...@scicable.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 2:06:56 PM
Subject: Re: Mike's New CD


Was that him in the Indonesian prison too doing Thriller?

Don Grieser wrote:
 I just caught the music video with the Tater dancing in his overalls.
 The dude can break a move. Awesome.
 
 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM,  mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:
 I just got Pickin' on Michael in the mail,  Mike Compton plays and sings
 Michael Jackson.  I never knew Tater could sing so high.  Billy Jean played
 Compton style, cain't get no better ya'll.

 Clyde Clevenger
 Just My Opinion, But It's Right
 Salem, Oregon
 Old Circle


 
  
 
 




  
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Re: Our First Gig

[Trey Young]

That first time out sure is a blast, you can always shrug off a bad performance 
(if you have one, which it sounds like yours went pretty good) by saying, hey 
it's our first gig.  As far as blanking out, yeah all too often.  I play with 
my best friend/brother-in-law/one of the best guitarists around Atlanta (I'm 
definitely not up to his standards, but were family ;-) ) and we worked up some 
of his originals and a couple of trad. tunes with harmonies to the melody lines 
and all that good stuff and the first night we were going to implement our 
fancy-ness I blanked on pretty much every one...good thing we're family now...
 
 





From: Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:56:13 AM
Subject: Re: Our First Gig

Good on ya for getting out there.  $7 is $7!  I've certainly played for 
less...  

As for going stone cold blank, I've been working on Stoney Point and went to a 
jam session last night.  I was all set to pull it and lay it on 'em, couldn't 
do it.  I couldn't get the first note out.  Still can't.  I guess it needs more 
work...

M



On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:50 PM, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote:


We did it!!  The Stringbenders played our first gig tonight.  The
local arts outreach program is sponsoring a singer/songwriter festival
this weekend and we played out in front of the theater as people
arrived for the main concert.  I mainly played guitar but I pulled the
Kimble oval out for WBB, A Chokin' Farewell, and B'grass Stomp.  We
had a lot of fun.  And made some $$$ too.  Let's see, $21 divided by
three.yessir, that's a whole $7 each!

We played all instrumental tunes.  Some slow, some fast.  I've been
working on my fancy crosspickin' on guitar and we're doin' a few tunes
like that.  Still gettin' our set list put together.  But tonight we
played for about an hour and a half, with no set list, and had no
issues coming up with tunes to play.  Although I did flub one tune.
It's my turn to pick one, so I suggest Soldier's Joy.  I go to kick it
off on guitar and my mind goes stone cold blank.  Can't remember it to
save my life!!  Soldier's-freakin-Joy, which I've only played 1,789
times, and I can't remember it!!   LOL  Gotta love live performances.
Can't wait to do it again.  We had more fun than a two peckered puppy
dog!  ;-)





  
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Re: Personal YouTube Videos

[Trey Young]

Rowan's Creek is a pretty good 'un...
 
 





From: Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:04:33 AM
Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos


I haven't tried many scotch whiskies, mainly being a mash fan.  I have
to say that I recently found a Kentucky whiskey that has become my
favorite:  Knob Creek.  I find it hard to believe that such a good
sipping whiskey could come from the folks at Jim Beam.

On Apr 22, 8:03 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 WHAT occasion is not special enough for JW Blue? Dammit man, crack
 that puppy. Or Chimay blue, red, or white(if you're gonna drink beer).
 Sot

 On Apr 22, 7:26 am, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:



  Nice picking Shaun.  I think I would have gone ahead and busted open the
  bottle of JW Blue.

  When did you get the Kimble?  I always admired that Red Diamond A5 in your
  other videos.

  Mark

  On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:18 PM, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote:

   Time for some new ones.  Be sure to read the notes on the first
   one.   ;-)

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uVNLUeL8WU

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og3t4xPigiE- Hide quoted text -

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Re: Personal YouTube Videos

[Trey Young]

I had a bottle of Laphroaig last year, didn't care for it much at first, but me 
not being a quitter I kept on drinking it and about 3/4 of the way through I 
found a taste for it.
 
 





From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos


Laphroaig is excellent, but at heart I'm a Johnny Walker Gold Label man. That's 
the stuff. 





From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:08:29 AM
Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos


Robin,
Would that be high test or ethel? For bourbon it's got to be mid-grade
Pappy VanWinkle. I got a bottle of Laphroaig from the FedEx man
yesterday. Compliments of Outlier mandolins and Mistah Ben Pearce.
Ya'll git a little water glass and come on...

Peaty

On Apr 22, 3:15 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now what's wrong with a good sniff of the gas tank of yer truck...

 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
  Blanton's is in yet another financial category.  Woodford Reserve is really
  good, but it's a little sweet for my regular taste.

  M

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.comwrote:

  Ah Woodford Reserve, delicious!  Blanton's, bulleit and Elijah
  Craig. .

  On Apr 22, 10:32 am, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote:
   Woodford Reserve is another good bourbon and my current favorite.
   I'm about to head out on vacation but maybe when I get back I'll crack
   open the bottle of JW Blue and record the Teetotallers (aka,
   Temperance) Reel.

   The mandolin I'm playing is a Kimble A-0.  Although it's outfitted
   like an A4.  Waverly tuners, James TP, triple binding.
   I've had it for a few months and just got it back from a fresh set up
   by Will.  It's a really cool mandolin with its own sound.
   The Red Diamond A5 that's in a couple of my videos was a trade that I
   got last summer.  I traded it off for a guitar last fall because I
   already had my ff hole bases covered with my Heiden A5.  I'm down to
   the Heiden and Kimble and that should hold me for a while!!





  
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Re: Personal YouTube Videos

[Trey Young]

Hopefully 3/4 of the way through my mandolin playing, I'll develop a skill for 
it...
 
 





From: Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:20:57 AM
Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos

and they say that hard work and persistence are values of the past...



On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:

Fantastic.  A goal without a plan is just a dream.

M 




On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:

I had a bottle of Laphroaig last year, didn't care for it much at first, but me 
not being a quitter I kept on drinking it and about 3/4 of the way through I 
found a taste for it.
 
 





From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:11:02 AM 

Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos



Laphroaig is excellent, but at heart I'm a Johnny Walker Gold Label man. That's 
the stuff. 





From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:08:29 AM
Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos


Robin,
Would that be high test or ethel? For bourbon it's got to be mid-grade
Pappy VanWinkle. I got a bottle of Laphroaig from the FedEx man
yesterday. Compliments of Outlier mandolins and Mistah Ben Pearce.
Ya'll git a little water glass and come on...

Peaty

On Apr 22, 3:15 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now what's wrong with a good sniff of the gas tank of yer truck...

 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
  Blanton's is in yet another financial category.  Woodford Reserve is really
  good, but it's a little sweet for my regular taste.

  M

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.comwrote:

  Ah Woodford Reserve, delicious!  Blanton's, bulleit and Elijah
  Craig. .

  On Apr 22, 10:32 am, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote:
   Woodford Reserve is another good bourbon and my current favorite.
   I'm about to head out on vacation but maybe when I get back I'll crack
   open the bottle of JW Blue and record the Teetotallers (aka,
   Temperance) Reel.

   The mandolin I'm playing is a Kimble A-0.  Although it's outfitted
   like an A4.  Waverly tuners, James TP, triple binding.
   I've had it for a few months and just got it back from a fresh set up
   by Will.  It's a really cool mandolin with its own sound.
   The Red Diamond A5 that's in a couple of my videos was a trade that I
   got last summer.  I traded it off for a guitar last fall because I
   already had my ff hole bases covered with my Heiden A5.  I'm down to
   the Heiden and Kimble and that should hold me for a while!!












  
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Re: Where's everybody gone?

[Trey Young]

same story here, covered up with work (not complaining about it either!) busy 
with the family at home and actually have been pretty busy playing out, so that 
leaves me as mainly a lurker here.  I did pick up that Old Time Barndancing CD 
thanks to the heads up from folks here, and yessir it's a good'un.
 
 





From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 2:22:08 PM
Subject: Re: Where's everybody gone?


Howdy Allen,
The tune? Yessir. I'm sorry. Didn't mean to ignore you, just let it
slip by me. The tune sounded good to me, but then I already know you
know your stuff. Was there a question? Sounded like pure-dee BG/
oldtime.
Taterbug

On May 11, 9:20 am, Allen Scott  Pamela Manzer
nervouswhitef...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 Hello Mike,

 How are things with you?
 We've been busy...recording...quite a few shows coming up.

 Did you get a chance to check out the tune(s) I sent you?

 Allen

  Nervous White Folk

 http://myspace.com/nervouswhitefolk

 
 From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:51:16 AM
 Subject: Where's everybody gone?

 Seems like we've all got busy and quit posting. As for me, I'm up to
 my eyeballs in stuff, mostly musical. Has to be done. My apologies for
 neglecting the page. Just lots to do. What's going on out there? Come
 on...

 Taterboy

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Re: A mandolin for under $1k

[Trey Young]

Chris Baird (Arches mandolins) is building flat top/induced arched top oval 
hole mandolins that go for $950 brand new.  They look really nice and have been 
getting great reviews over on the Cafe.  Also, if there is any way your friend 
could muster up $300 more, Ken Ratcliff is building his Econo Silver Angel 
mandolins and they look really sharp and they go for $1300 brand new.
 
 





From: Petimar p...@petimarpress.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:27:34 PM
Subject: Re: A mandolin for under $1k




On Jun 3, 7:38 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Rich,
 You might have your friend look into a Stradolin. Some of those are
 really good.
 Taterbug


I've owned two Strads in the past and found a Master Model Strad for
my mom recently that is a very nice sounding box.


  
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Re: Play it like you own it...

[Trey Young]

In my experience of playing (about 90% of it being in a bar setting) I've found 
that as long as the over all groove/feel of the song stays strong and steady, 
small mistakes are usually only noticed by you and possibly a band member.  I 
suppose for some slower tempo and prettier stuff this may not hold as 
true...so focus on getting those spot on and just have fun with the other 
stuff.  As an aside, I've also found that crowds really feed off of the 
entertainers having a good time.  I play almost every Thurs. night with my best 
friend, who alos happens to be my brother-in-law.  He's been playing for years 
and is a professional (that's all he does) musician and he taught me how to 
play my first chords on a guitar seven years ago.  When ever we play it never 
fails that we get some sort of comment about how well we play together or how 
much fun it looks like we're having, etc.  Any who, I'll stop my rambling there.

Trey
 
 





From: Topher Gayle surfns...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2009 12:42:47 PM
Subject: Re: Play it like you own it...


Hi Holstein,

I am sure everybody has a different point of view on this. For one
thing, different performers are trying to accomplish different things.
For another, we have different attitudes towards what we're doing. And
finally, we all own  operate different fingers and brains.

For me, my main purpose in getting in front of a listening (as opposed
to a dancing) crowd, is to entertain them. Usually by trying to make
them laugh. So for me, making a mistake is pretty unimportant, as long
as I get a laugh. Now and then I try to play a tune (usually
instrumental) which is not intended to be funny, and I do like to not
make too many bad blunders in that case. But I try to get the place
rocking and grooving, and little clams happen and I try to keep on
grinning.

[Aside: Boy, it sucks when people don't laugh though! Fortunately most
people like to laugh. Me included. One thing to avoid - make sure your
MC (if there is one) doesn't say, And now the funniest mandolin
player around - that's a challenge for people to not laugh, and
they're pretty good at that. It is much better for people to discover
on their own that you're making them laugh.]

My good friend (and personal bass player) and I make mistakes all the
time. They're over with so fast, most of the time, that no one but us
even knows they occurred. On the rare occasions that things really
turn into a train wreck, just grin and roll your eyes and get right
back into it. Often times people enjoy this little spark of humanity
that you have shared with them. People can identify with you when you
screw up, because they do too. A mistake can bring you closer to an
audience. Not that is a good reason to intentionally screw up. You owe
it to yourself and to the music to do the best you can. But get into
the groove, let the music be free, enjoy the screwups and the
interactions with a good audience, and go home with a smile.

It is nice to have a little patter you can rely on to lighten up the
crowd after an uncomfortable moment. The audience will relax and it
can give you a moment to regroup and relax and get ready for the next
number.

I remember seeing a 60 minutes show in the late 70's where they were
talking to the great pianist, Arturo Rubinstein. He played something
and made some mistake or another that I would certainly never have
heard. Afterwards they said Rubinstein was famous for making mistakes
that were better than the original... well I'm never gonna be able to
make a mistake like that, but I can hope to have my ears open and if a
mistake sounds pretty cool, I might just do it again. That way it
sounds like I meant to do that! (The motto of one of my bands).

Bottom line, smile  keep on grooving!

Topher


2009/6/7 The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.au:

 Howdy friends,

 After reading Rek’s blog the other day, the EGO thing has been on my
 mind. After a forced lay-off since Christmas, I got back on the horse
 on Saturday night and entertained a paid crowd at a function.

 I really tried to let-go and free myself of any self-consciousness,
 but I did find myself trying to perform better and being quite aware
 of getting it right. I think that trying to play a tune perfectly
 every time can slow me down and an element of cautiousness slips in.
 It’s the same when playing for MC on webcam, that live performance
 doesn’t seem to come out the same as it does in practice.

 So I was wondering how much easier this gets as the experience builds,
 and what % of the practice kicks in for the real deal? I believe that
 I’m playing at 80% – 90% of my skill capacity when performing live at
 present. Is this just a case of nerves? And what do the pro’s feel
 when they prepare and actually perform? Is there still a case of
 nerves or is it as comfy as drinking a glass of water?

 I can’t imagine what Tater experiences when he’s stepping on 

Re: Costello Show

[Trey Young]

I listened to a show from the Beacon Theatre at the Sugar Megs site this 
morning, it was mighty fine.  They did a great version of The Race is On.  I'd 
say you're in for a treat.
 
 





From: Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:55:36 PM
Subject: Costello Show


Has anyone caught a show, yet?

We are heading up to Nashville tomorrow to catch one.  Looking forward
to it.


  
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Re: The Wilders

[Trey Young]

 
 I just checked out some of their YouTube videos, I like them alot.





From: Don Christy mandolin...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:22:14 PM
Subject: Re: The Wilders

They are a lot of fun.  

I've seen them at a house concert in St. Louis.
Don


On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote:


They're great. Kansas City-based I think. val


On Jun 19, 11:29 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 I bought the new disc by this group on Amazon (download) last night.
 They are an interesting group of folks, that is for sure.  Anyone else
 listen to them?

 Nelson





  
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Re: Correction!! Costello/Tater on the Tonight Show!!! 6/23 Tonight

[Trey Young]

Is the resonator missing for good?  I also really enjoyed the Amoeba show and 
the lack of supporting instruments other than mandolin and 2nd guitar.
 
 





From: Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:09:16 PM
Subject: Re: Correction!! Costello/Tater on the Tonight Show!!! 6/23 Tonight


I enjoyed this performance, but was a little disappointed that the
fiddle, not the mandolin, filled in for the missing resonator.

I was able to capture the video from the Amoeba.com web broadcast
using one of the many free video streaming capture tools.  It is easy
to do for anyone interested in preserving that show for later viewing.

Has anyone purchased the video Why Old Time?  My came in the mail on
Monday, but I haven't had time to watch it yet.  I look forward to the
chance to sit down and take a look at it.

While I am at it (throwing a handfull of questions/subjects out
there), who has registered for the camp in Owensboro?

Nelson

On Jun 24, 8:50 am, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I got a close look at Telluride. I think it's the Fishman M300 which
 has the pickup sensors in the base of the bridge. The M100 and M200
 had them embedded in the bridge saddle. He said he's going straight
 into a DI to the board, and they're able to make it sound decent. It's
 definitely changed the acoustic tone of the Gilchrist--not as full and
 as rich as it was with a real bridge.



 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:18 AM, 14stringsperrypale...@gmail.com wrote:

  I 'think' he got the Fishman bridge pick-up with perhaps the Aura
  module.
  I'm betting he was also playing into a mic too?

  On Jun 24, 12:40 am, Mike mikebunt...@shaw.ca wrote:
  Just watched it, great stuff. Anybody know what pickup Tater settledd
  on?

  On Jun 23, 6:25 am, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

   Not the Late Show.- Hide quoted text -

  - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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Re: Evening Prayer Blues

[Trey Young]

add me to that list please Fred, thanks.

Trey
 
 





From: Fred fkel...@scicable.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 7:26:00 PM
Subject: Re: Evening Prayer Blues


Tried to send it to the group but it's too large.  I'll send it to 
individuals though

Robin Gravina wrote:
 and much cheek  - does anyone have Deford Bailey's version?
 
 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:52 PM, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net 
 mailto:nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 
 
 
    That's right.  Thanks.
 
    See, I'm not going nuts.  I'm just confused!
 
      On Mon 08/10/09  4:46 PM , Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com
    mailto:mark.se...@gmail.com sent:
       Its the tune of the week over on CoMando  
      
        On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Nelson  wrote:
       It might be my imagination, but I thought someone was discussing this
       tune recently.  The thread mentioned Tater/Long on YouTube and Alan
       Bibey's version.  I have both of those and enjoy them.
      
       I mean no offense to any of those fine gentlemen, but wanted to add
       one that you guys need to hear.
      
       Dave Davis plays it on his album Troubled Times, and it is a killer
       version.  You can find it on Amazon.com and check it out.
      
       I have put the disc in my player and set the track repeat so that it
       plays over and over on the way to work.
      
       Check it out.
      
       Nelson
       
      
 
 
 
 
 
  




  
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Re: What's going on?

[Trey Young]

Hey David, 
  I think the Little Country Giants are a great band and I would love to hear a 
track or two.  Did you guys record at AJ Adams' Troubador Den Studio?  I had 
noticed on your MySpace page at one point you were listing Rome, GA as home, 
are you still around there very much?  If so, are you available for lessons?  I 
live just down the road in Carrollton and would be interested.  Any who, 
looking forward to hearing the songs.  Thanks,
Trey





From: Bigevemusic bigevemu...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:25:19 PM
Subject: Re: What's going on?


Well  I was in Georgia recently and got a few copies of the new  
Little Country Giants cd that both Tater and I  were guests. It was a  
fun record to make. I even make my debut on snare drum.  It's on  
iTunes now, but I could post a song or two if anyone is interested.

Best to all,
Miles Long

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Mike mikebunt...@shaw.ca wrote:


 I'm looking forward to hearing your comments about touring on the
 popstar level. Elvis is pretty cool. And is it true what they say
 about the girls in Ypsilanti? Was it difficult to play your style in
 such a different context?
 I'm also eagerly anticipating the camp this year.

 On Aug 17, 2:40 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy Folks! I'm looking out my window here in SF and fixing to do  
 the
 soundcheck for the first in the series of 15 shows on the second leg
 of the Costello tour. What's going on? Where's everybody at? Not much
 life/action on the group. Come on, stir it up!

 Taterbug
 



  
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Re: What's going on?

[Trey Young]

Well let's see, I'm having talks with Robb Brophy who builds Elkhorn Mandolins 
(which I currently have an A-5 of his) about possibly getting one of his 
F-5s.  Haven't been picking as much as usual since about 2 1/2 weeks ago my 
wife gave birth to our second child and first son ;-)!  So now I have a second 
little person to corrupt with things that I like.

Hey Nelson, how is that trade from a FF hole instrument to an oval hole 
treating you?  Is that your only mando or do you have another FF somewhere?

I second hearing stories from the road about being a mandolin picker playing 
with a rock n' roller. 





From: nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:09:04 PM
Subject: Re: What's going on?



I traded my Weber Yellowstone F-Hole for a Weber Vintage F Oval Hole.  I hope 
that does make me look like an A-Hole.

I have been working on some Monroe tunes on my own and building a list is 
questions.

Enjoy the rock star life!

On Mon 08/17/09  7:44 PM , Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net sent:
 Ditto on the Little Country Giants music. Would love to hear it. I've
 been listening intently to a recording of David and KC Groves and
 envying those slippery high-to-low slides.
 Headed to Laurel Bloomery this weekend for an old-time fiddler's
 convention. Made some recordings of the group I play with regularly
 this past weekend...and be damned if it didn't sound like someone
 playing mandolin. Thanks Mike.  
 
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 FROM: Trey Young 
 TO: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 SENT: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:42:18 PM
 SUBJECT: Re: What's going on?
 
 Hey David,    I think the Little Country Giants are a great band and
 I would love to hear a track or two.  Did you guys record at AJ Adams'
 Troubador Den Studio?  I had noticed on your MySpace page at one
 point you were listing Rome, GA as home, are you still around there
 very much?  If so, are you available for lessons?  I live just down
 the road in Carrollton and would be interested.  Any who, looking
 forward to hearing the songs.  Thanks, Trey
 -
 FROM: Bigevemusic 
 TO: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com 
 SENT: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:25:19 PM
 SUBJECT: Re: What's going on?
 Well  I was in Georgia recently and got a few copies of the new  
 Little Country Giants cd that both Tater and I  were guests. It was a
 
 fun record to make. I even make my debut on snare drum.  It's on  
 iTunes now, but I could post a song or two if anyone is interested.
 
 Best to all,
 Miles Long
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Mike  wrote:
 
 
  I'm looking forward to hearing your comments about touring on the
  popstar level. Elvis is pretty cool. And is it true what they say
  about the girls in Ypsilanti? Was it difficult to play your style
 in
  such a different context?
  I'm also eagerly anticipating the camp this year.
 
  On Aug 17, 2:40 pm, mistertaterbug  wrote:
  Howdy Folks! I'm looking out my window here in SF and fixing to
 do  
  the
  soundcheck for the first in the series of 15 shows on the second
 leg
  of the Costello tour. What's going on? Where's everybody at? Not
 much
  life/action on the group. Come on, stir it up!
 
  Taterbug
  
  
 




  
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Re: Monroe Bear Family Disks

[Trey Young]

Brian, Friend of the Devil and?





From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 1:15:48 PM
Subject: Re: Monroe Bear Family Disks


This reminds me... I saw Mike play, not one but two, two Grateful Dead
songs with Elvis Costello. Neither of which was China Cat Sunflower...
but still :)

Brian

On Sep 2, 3:18 pm, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sort of like some of those gem Grateful Dead shows from the early to  
 mid 90's.  I like older (more recent) Monroe as well.  He could play  
 better then than I ever will and his timing and phrasing are still  
 more than enjoyable.   Every time I hear Monroe talk it reminds me of  
 my grandpa; this is even more true when I listen to some of the  
 recordings of Monroe from the 80's and 90's.  The first Monroe  
 recording i listened to at any length was a cassette (live at the  
 Grand Ole Opry) from the 90's and it was beautiful.

 On Sep 2, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Dasspunk wrote:





  Maybe I'm the odd duck, but I love the Monroe discs from the 80s+. The
  old man just kept getting better and better IMHO. And I also love all
  of the Jimmy Campbell records (Pieces of Time, Young Opry Fiddler and
  the rare cassette tape Top of the Morning). MAN that boy could play!
  One of the best...

  B

  On Sep 2, 8:55 am, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Jimmy Campbell's Pieces of Time is one of those out of print CDs.
  Monroe plays mandolin on all of it, I think, and it's one of the last
  recordings Monroe made. It contains The Chilly Winds of Shannon and
  a blues tune Bill wrote for one of Jimmy's sons.

  The 50's Monroe recordings with Jimmy Martin rate right up there.
  Monroe's power/downstroke playing really grabbed me early on when I
  was starting in on his style and it still does.

  On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:59 AM, 14stringsperrypale...@gmail.com  
  wrote:

  I agree..the 50-58 period has some mean sounding stuff on
  itthe Sally Jo
  on there is unlike any other Monroe cut I've heard. 59-69 starts to
  get a more polished sound when Rowan, Keith and Greene enter the
  scene. The first one with the Monroe Brother's and The Band is
  essential too.

  Neil Rosenberg's book seems to be the source when it comes to  
  tracking
  this stuff.
  According to that book there are quite a few cuts (some of those
  obscure latter day fiddle tunes) that Monroe guested. But sadly many
  of those records are out of print.


  
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Re: action

[Trey Young]

Ok, so I've never really messed with adjusting the bridge to a certain number 
and now I'm curious.  Do you measure from the actual fret board to the string 
(I'll assume the bottom of the string) or from the crown of the fret to the 
string?  When you say 5/64 is that at the G string and are all of the strings 
at 5/64?  Thanks,
Trey





From: Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:04:05 PM
Subject: Re: action


I'm getting my spark plug feelers out as we speak. I think I'm too
low. 4mm sounds like hard work.
I played for my neighbours yesterday as part of our neighbourhood
fiestas. Lovely experience - our 'urbanización' of 120 houses
organises it's own weekend party: starts on Tuesday with kids games,
then Thursday we have the kids dinner - they have to scavenge for the
ingredients, from house to house, then open air cinema for all. Friday
there is a 'brotherhood dinner' where we all bring food and share it,
then a dance - plenty of Macarena and the kids all up until 2 in the
morning. Saturday, petanca, and other games competitions, single men
against married men football, dance classes, big communal lunch and
after our gig (by the pool, sun going down, everyone wearing cowboy
hats (there was an associated competition) a big fancy dress dance and
everyone from 2 yrs old till 80 hitting the floor. Sunday, tapa
competition, communal lunch, everyone gets thrown into the pool, then
as the sun goes down, everyone dresses in black, with cross dressing,
silly hats and sunglasses encouraged, and we carry the sardine around
the whole neighbourhood, with a trumpet and wailing,  and bury it as a
symbol of the end of fiestas, with plenty of cries of Aieee as we weep
for the party that we all created and shared.

Just wanted to share that - it really is Old Time - love it.
Robin

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:07 AM, diptanshu roydiptanshu@gmail.com wrote:
 oh yes i am getting there!
 deep!

 On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:02 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Yessir, I'd say so. If you can play yours at 4mm, you'd be a candidate
 for Superman's job.

 Taterbug

 On Aug 28, 8:12 am, diptanshu roy diptanshu@gmail.com wrote:
  cool thanks thats 2 mm. i some how need to get mine lower i guess!
 
  On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:07 PM, diptanshu roy
  diptanshu@gmail.comwrote:
 
   5/64 inches?
 
   On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:57 PM, mistertaterbug
   taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   Deep,
   I keep my action between 4 and 5/64 at the 12th. It is a compromise
   height; just high enough to keep from buzzing(but most any mandolin
   will buzz at the 5th fret on the G string, no matter what) and give
   you more pop, but still have some sustain. Of course, lowering the
   action a little will give you more sustain and a pretty sound, but
   less whallop when you hit a chop chord.
 
   TBug
 
   On Aug 28, 1:13 am, deep diptanshu@gmail.com wrote:
hi guys
i know lot of people play bluegrass with a high action. my eastman
has
quite a bit of it i think! and though i love playing it on
bluegrass
songs it become quite a challenge when i play swing style...
i am attacting this clip which accidentally shows the action. its
about 4mm at my 12th fret. may be a bit more. is that very high? or
is
that what many people are coping with?
 
my bridge is at the lowest and the nut action is fine. also my
truss
rod is quite tight. perhaps i can turn it another quarter or so.
still
there is quite a bit of neck relief. on top of that there are no
set
up guys in india. can anyone tell me if this action too much?
 
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbO8zJ3ZDD4



 




  
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Re: Mike and David Radio Interview

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that was a fun listen, thanks for the link Brian.  +1 on the enjoying another 
Compton  Grier album...or a live recording...





From: Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:54:18 PM
Subject: Re: Mike and David Radio Interview


Thanks for the link, Brian. Good to hear those fellers talking on the
radio just like they would in person. Wish I could be there and take
in the show. Last time I saw them was up in Colorado a couple years
ago. I'd sure enjoy another Compton  Grier CD, too.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Fred I'm surprised y'all don't have more interest in this sort of
 thing up your way. On the other hand, your professional football
 team wears purple. Purple!

 Here's the interview if folks missed it... Compton and Grier live from
 the Road Master!

 http://titsh.com/compton.grier.interview.mp3

 B



 On Sep 29, 10:48 am, Fred fkel...@scicable.net wrote:
 Good time!  Wish our local radio heads were a tad more interested in
 doing this.  If any of you Twin Cities folks want to help out, give a
 call to KFAI (our best shot at a roots interview)--Pam Kolapailo or
 Dakota Dave Hull at 612-341-3144, their main number.

 We've been sending them messages with no response as yet so maybe if
 listeners let them know they'd like to hear these guys on the radio we
 can get it done.  They're in their pledge drive this week too so
 something like this would sure seem to help them as well as push the
 concert.



 Dasspunk wrote:
  Mike and Mr. Grier are en route to the Midwest and will be doing a
  radio interview at 10:30am (about 10 minutes from now) on WORT FM
  (Madison, WI).

  You can listen in free here:http://www.wort-fm.org/listen.php

  Should be entertaining... :)

  Brian
 




  
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Re: Passionate mandolin

[Trey Young]

I fairly regularly play a Thursday night gig (not tonight) at a bar where we 
play til almost 2 am and then get up to go to work at 6 am.  I always tell 
myself that it's nonsense and not worth it, but here I sit tonight having not 
gone to play and quite literally feel a  discomfort from not being able to get 
out and play.  This is my routine escape from the turmoil of the week...



From: The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.au
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 11:27:54 PM
Subject: Passionate mandolin


Howdy friends. Something Mike said in a recent post really hit home
and got me thinking about Passion. His comments...

Finding something that touches the soul and inspires, provides an
escape from the turmoil of the day is about as good as it gets. I
remember what I felt like when I bought Monroe's records. I used to
get the dry heaves before I could get the needle on the platter.

That to me expresses so much and I believe that's the reason we're all
here in this forum. Sometimes you can get strange looks when you start
talking about mandolins / bluegrass and all in a different setting,
and a lot of people just don't get it. Getting the dry heaves is
exactly how I feel when hearing certain cd's and can't wait to figure
out what's happening. This passion stirs up the emotions and always
leaves me with the feeling of not having enough time to play, listen
and live it. When I found out MC was coming to Australia in March last
year, I was beside myself and just had to find a way to get to the
workshop and concert. After the concert I was so taken aback that I
just couldn't go and say g'day! Did he just play a whole show on his
own with just a mandolin?? Wow, that's what I'm talking about. When I
found out about the online lessons I was like an over enthusiastic
cartoon character so eager for his reply, I think I wrote several
times before he replied saying Easy boss, I'm not going anywhere.

For those of us in a remote location or at least in another city /
country, these encounters mean a lot.

Aside from expressing what a joy it is to be in this group and sharing
among everyone here the same feelings, I'd love to hear to what extent
we've all gone to in our quest to feed our infatuation with this
music. I know I drove the 10 hours to Brisbane to catch the mando
workshop, then drove home again the next day whilst listening to
Monroe all the way, what a trip! Every minute was enjoyable and I
couldn't wait to start my new journey.

That said, bring it on!

Holstein


  
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Re: Family Bands

[Trey Young]

The bands that feature Ma and Pa and the kids (young kids) often times carry a 
weird vibe to them.  I think bands that have siblings in them can be 
pretty cool.  I actually have been playing in a band where we recruitted my 
baby brother (10 years younger than me) to come play guitar for us, and I have 
rather enjoyed the experience on several different levels.  





From: Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 1:31:19 PM
Subject: Family Bands


The recent article on the cafe about a family band got me thinking:
Anybody else find the whole family band thing kinda' creepy. All of
them I've seen have through the years always brought out the feeling
that something's not quite right with them--no matter how wholesome
they seem. Maybe it's just me



  
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Re: Fw: Re: Mike and David Radio Interview

[Trey Young]

+1





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Sent: Thu, October 8, 2009 2:33:14 AM
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awesome bullin... thanks


  
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Re: Your weekend music plans

[Trey Young]

a weekend full of work around the house, with sparse picking snuck in here and 
there for me...





From: Bud Martin l...@yadtel.net
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Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 1:40:57 PM
Subject: Re: Your weekend music plans


I'm playing tomorrow night with a thrown together band for a class
reunion.  Should be a fun jam of traditional bluegrass tunes.  Plus it's
at a vineyard, so that should liven up the group. You never know, it
might be a crap shoot with no one listening.

Bud Martin
http://www.mrbbluegrass.com


 Anybody have any plans for music this weekend? My plan is to do some
 recording at home this weekend. Been working on a bunch of
 instrumental tunes recorded on mando family instruments. It's time to
 get them done.

 What are you doing this weekend?

 






  
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Re: Special request

[Trey Young]

Linda,
 Sorry for your loss.  Here is a link to a website that has mando tabs as well 
as guitar tabs and has an old time and a gospel category.  Hope this helps:
http://www.alltabs.com/

Trey




From: 14strings perrypale...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 10:11:19 AM
Subject: Re: Special request


Linda

My condolences on your loss.

I did a quick google search and came up empty handed for a pure church
hymnal

What about Ashoken Farewell?

http://www.mandolincafe.com/tab/ashoken.txt

Say the wrod and I can e-mail you the sheet music

Perry


On Oct 15, 9:42 am, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote:
 Hi All,

 I lost a dear dear Aunt today.  She lived a long and good life and was
 in her 80's.  She lived with family  in GA, I am in Tasmania.  I am
 going to record something and send it via the internet to my cousins
 there for the funeral.

 I had an old church hymnal here, but can't find it, mind is blank..and
 am wondering if any one might have some links or tabs to some good old
 time gospel music suitable for mandolin.  Something pretty and not too
 difficult, as time is short.

 I think  I have, a guitar guy lined up to help me out but need some
 dots, melody lines/chords and/or  idears.

 I am considering a very slow version of Elzic's Farewell which I can
 easily do, as one, but on its own does not fill out a set for such an
 occasion. Your suggestions would be most welcome, dot's or tab even
 better.


  
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Re: Hey Tater.....any new projects?

[Trey Young]

I've been thinking a Tater and Norman album would be fantastic.  I also think a 
Tater and Sam Bush album may be sort of cool, to me that would be parallel to 
the Norman and Tony Rice records, with Tater filling the Norman role and Sam 
the Tony Rice role...also, from another post, I'm pretty excited to hear that 
an instructional dvd may be on the way soon...








  

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Re: Old Daingerfield

[Trey Young]

there are some good clips of Jake Joliff playing with John McGann on the 
youtube...





From: mandoho...@comcast.net mandoho...@comcast.net
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Jake Jolliff is the mandolin player, he is from Newberg, Oregon.  Jake is a 
Junior at Berklee, lives now in Boston. 
He plays in Joy Kills Sorrow with bunch of young musical terrorists, all very 
good, but the language is not
familiar to me.  I know, I'm old.  Alex is a junior in high school from 
Corvalis, Oregon.  The poor kid doesn't even have a band
of his own, has to be content to play with Grisman and just finished a 
nation-wide tour with the Jerry Douglas band'  I just
hope he finds some success before he gets out of high school.



Clyde Clevenger 
Just My Opinion, But It's Right 
Salem, Oregon 
Old Circle


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Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:53:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield

We just saw Alex H. (the fiddler) with the David Grisman Quintet @ The Freight 
 Salvage in Beserkely on Dec 26th.
That kid can bow a fiddle!!  Who's the mando wunderkind?


On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Bill Burnette bburne...@gmail.com wrote:

Very impressive.

Bill in Nashville


On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:30 AM, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:

This ain't exactly like Tater or Bill would have played this, but it was fun 
to see tonight.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMMK3QI4VHg


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Re: Old Daingerfield

[Trey Young]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwALaWvTWKQ

here is one such clip





From: Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 11:50:57 AM
Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield


there are some good clips of Jake Joliff playing with John McGann on the 
youtube...





From: mandoho...@comcast.net mandoho...@comcast.net
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 11:33:27 AM
Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield


Jake Jolliff is the mandolin player, he is from Newberg, Oregon.  Jake is a 
Junior at Berklee, lives now in Boston. 
He plays in Joy Kills Sorrow with bunch of young musical terrorists, all very 
good, but the language is not
familiar to me.  I know, I'm old.  Alex is a junior in high school from 
Corvalis, Oregon.  The poor kid doesn't even have a band
of his own, has to be content to play with Grisman and just finished a 
nation-wide tour with the Jerry Douglas band'  I just
hope he finds some success before he gets out of high school.



Clyde Clevenger 
Just My Opinion, But It's Right 
Salem, Oregon 
Old Circle


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Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:53:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield

We just saw Alex H. (the fiddler) with the David Grisman Quintet @ The Freight 
 Salvage in Beserkely on Dec 26th.
That kid can bow a fiddle!!  Who's the mando wunderkind?


On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Bill Burnette bburne...@gmail.com wrote:

Very impressive.

Bill in Nashville


On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:30 AM, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:

This ain't exactly like Tater or Bill would have played this, but it was fun 
to see tonight.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMMK3QI4VHg


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Re: Old Daingerfield

[Trey Young]

Seems pretty harsh to suggest these guys don't know how to play just because 
their music doesn't move you.  I'm not particularly moved by this performance 
either, other to notice that both of these guys have chops way beyond what I 
can ever hope for, but I mean hey they may have really gotten to somebody and 
sparked something that music hasn't ever hit before.





From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 8:34:56 AM
Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield

Agreed.

I usually look the other way when talented kids use a good tune as a
springboard to launch a flurry of self gratifying notes without regard
for their need or appropriateness within the tune. It's an extremely
common phenomenon that I call this --pardon the term-- musical
masturbation. I look the other way because they're kids after all and
it often takes a bit of age to go from being *able* to play really
well, to actually knowing *how* to play.

Unfortunately, I could probably guess who some of their teachers have
been and some, though they've not been kids for 30-40+ years, condone
and practice musical masturbation regularly.

I don't mean to pick on the kids but I would like to see this cycle
discontinued. The truth is I'm selfishly desperate for it to change
because I want to hear some new, truly great music and settling for
circus antics and musical masturbation is robbing me of the chance. I
would challenge these immensely talented kids to dig deeper and really
learn how to play.

Brian




On Jan 3, 6:49 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 No doubt all great players.  But, if I walked into the room while Joliff was
 playing the first tune on this clip, I would not have known it was
 Mississippi Waltz, and I play the tune!  And on Old Daingerfield with Alex,
 again really done well, but why the need to separate the 3rd part?  Because
 you can agree to do it?  It didn't add anything to what is a great tune.  I
 enjoyed a lot of the tune development within the tune, but to me it just got
 disjointed by creating that space.  But, that's just me... :)

 Mark



 On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwALaWvTWKQ

  here is one such clip

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  *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:50:57 AM
  *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield

   there are some good clips of Jake Joliff playing with John McGann on the
  youtube...

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  *From:* mandoho...@comcast.net mandoho...@comcast.net
  *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:33:27 AM
  *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield

  Jake Jolliff is the mandolin player, he is from Newberg, Oregon.  Jake is a
  Junior at Berklee, lives now in Boston.
  He plays in Joy Kills Sorrow with bunch of young musical terrorists, all
  very good, but the language is not
  familiar to me.  I know, I'm old.  Alex is a junior in high school from
  Corvalis, Oregon.  The poor kid doesn't even have a band
  of his own, has to be content to play with Grisman and just finished a
  nation-wide tour with the Jerry Douglas band'  I just
  hope he finds some success before he gets out of high school.

   Clyde Clevenger
  Just My Opinion, But It's Right
  Salem, Oregon
  Old Circle http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle

  - Original Message -
  From: Terry Harvey terwaha...@gmail.com
  To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:53:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
  Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield

  We just saw Alex H. (the fiddler) with the David Grisman Quintet @ The
  Freight  Salvage in Beserkely on Dec 26th.
  That kid can bow a fiddle!!  Who's the mando wunderkind?

  On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Bill Burnette bburne...@gmail.com wrote:

  Very impressive.

  Bill in Nashville

    On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:30 AM, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote:

   This ain't exactly like Tater or Bill would have played this, but it
  was fun to see tonight.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMMK3QI4VHg

   Clyde Clevenger
  Just My Opinion, But It's Right
  Salem, Oregon
  Old Circle http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle

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Re: Old Daingerfield

[Trey Young]

Fair enough, tis alot of grey area in music.  I guess as  musicians (both 
professionals and mere serious hobbyists like myself) one can only do what 
feels/is right to them at that point in time and hope that someone else digs it 
and have tough enough skin for those who don't.
Trey





From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 2:11:51 PM
Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield

Hey Trey,

Maybe it is harsh... it doesn't seem so to me because it's just my own
opinion and worth only that. But I didn't mean to single these folks
out necessarily either... they are fine musicians and there's some
reasonable playing in there. I was really talking in generalities.

Truthfully, my comment was partially fueled by a VERY similar
phenomenon in the basketball world that I was discussing this morning
(bare with me). On my beloved Bulls, we have a forward--we'll call him
Tyrus-- that is, as they say, a freakish athlete. The dude can jump
out of the gym, is 6'9, 235 and has more pure talent than anyone on
the team. He has all the tools to do anything he wants in the game.
Problem is, for every amazing thing he does on the court, he does two
completely stupid things which hurt the team. So the coach benches him
and plays a less talented guy that plays smarter.

Long story slightly longer, I love basketball because if you don't
play right, you sit. Always. It doesn't matter how great an athlete
you are if your team don't win. There's no grey area there... it's as
close to an absolute as I've found.

Unfortunately, this is not the case with music and everything is a
shade of grey. But not in my mind and not in my opinion :) I keep
score and call it like I see it. World beware!

Brian


On Jan 5, 10:48 am, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Seems pretty harsh to suggest these guys don't know how to play just because 
 their music doesn't move you.  I'm not particularly moved by this performance 
 either, other to notice that both of these guys have chops way beyond what I 
 can ever hope for, but I mean hey they may have really gotten to somebody and 
 sparked something that music hasn't ever hit before.

 
 From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com
 To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 8:34:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield

 Agreed.

 I usually look the other way when talented kids use a good tune as a
 springboard to launch a flurry of self gratifying notes without regard
 for their need or appropriateness within the tune. It's an extremely
 common phenomenon that I call this --pardon the term-- musical
 masturbation. I look the other way because they're kids after all and
 it often takes a bit of age to go from being *able* to play really
 well, to actually knowing *how* to play.

 Unfortunately, I could probably guess who some of their teachers have
 been and some, though they've not been kids for 30-40+ years, condone
 and practice musical masturbation regularly.

 I don't mean to pick on the kids but I would like to see this cycle
 discontinued. The truth is I'm selfishly desperate for it to change
 because I want to hear some new, truly great music and settling for
 circus antics and musical masturbation is robbing me of the chance. I
 would challenge these immensely talented kids to dig deeper and really
 learn how to play.

 Brian

 On Jan 3, 6:49 pm, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:





  No doubt all great players.  But, if I walked into the room while Joliff was
  playing the first tune on this clip, I would not have known it was
  Mississippi Waltz, and I play the tune!  And on Old Daingerfield with Alex,
  again really done well, but why the need to separate the 3rd part?  Because
  you can agree to do it?  It didn't add anything to what is a great tune.  I
  enjoyed a lot of the tune development within the tune, but to me it just got
  disjointed by creating that space.  But, that's just me... :)

  Mark

  On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwALaWvTWKQ

   here is one such clip

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   *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
   *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:50:57 AM
   *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield

    there are some good clips of Jake Joliff playing with John McGann on the
   youtube...

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   *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:33:27 AM
   *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield

   Jake Jolliff is the mandolin player, he is from Newberg, Oregon.  Jake is 
   a
   Junior at Berklee, lives now in Boston.
   He plays in Joy Kills Sorrow with bunch of young musical terrorists, all
   very good, but the language is not
   familiar to me.  I know, I'm old.  Alex is a junior in high

Re: Alex playng Old Time

[Trey Young]

well put Topher, makes sense to me...





From: Topher Gayle surfns...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 2:59:13 PM
Subject: Re: Alex playng Old Time

Last summer at the CBA music camp, I attended a workshop from a guy
who seemed to have studied OT  bluegrass music quite thoroughly. I
forget his name. He did seem to know his stuff, and brought along
recordings, and had interesting references and personal stories from
his discussions with the old-timers and so on. And he played both
types of music professionally. So I felt his opinions were worth
listening to.

His main theme was that Old-time music was primarily music for dancing
to and for participating in, and that bluegrass was primarily a
musical form that showcased the musicians in a concert setting.  Both
styles of music derived from similar, though not identical, roots.
Mainly the stylistic differences evolved from the differences in the
performance setting and purpose.

I mention this now because I think it may shed a little light on the
discussions here lately. The comments that young folks often just jam
as many notes into a period of time is certainly something I've seen,
too. But some commentators here were I think comparing the musical
content of those kids' flashy playing to Old-time playing, and I think
that's a little bit apples to oranges. Here's why I say this:

If bluegrass is mainly a concert performance art (and I accept that),
then the highlighting of individual performers is a significant part
of the show. And flashiness certainly pleases the crowds. I've seen it
over and over (and no, I can't do it myself, and yes, that's a little
bit sour grapes). So when a young performer with amazing chops get big
applause for playing zillions of fast notes, you can bet he's gonna do
it again. Showmanship is the name of the game - that's why the bands
wear dark suits or matching tie-dye overalls or whatever.

In old-time, as it's evolved, the goals of the group are melody, and
drive, and can't-keep-your-feet still dance rhythm. Typically no
performer is highlighted. As a member of a contra dance band, I know
this is mighty fun to do. (And whether you play the right notes or
chords or not is not as important as getting the toes tapping - I like
that!) Old time bands often carefully dress in unmatched overalls.
(joking, joking)

I just thought I'd add these ideas to the conversation - they make
sense to me. What do you think?

Topher


On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes it has.  The difference, IMO, is that the OT music purveyors hold much
 more tightly to playing it in its original form.  In fact, they get down
 right offended if you take one of their beloved standards and do much with
 it.  While some musicians find that limiting, it does, by its very nature,
 preserve the music in close to its original intent.

 M

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 What about the culture that gave rise to OT music? Hasn't it also faded?

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Re: Sarah Jarosz

[Trey Young]

Thanks for the heads up, I have procured said album and have listened to it 
once through and man that is one talented young lady...





From: Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 6:58:27 PM
Subject: Re: Sarah Jarosz

It was worth the ten I paid. Good album for sure.

Mike Hedding


On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:39 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah, that oughta be good. Sarah's a serious young lady and seriously
 talented.
 TBug
 
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 Thought some of you might want to take advantage of this deal.  Just saw it
 on Facebook.  Sarah Jarosz's album Song Up In Her Head is available NOW for
 $1.99, today and tomorrow only!http://bit.ly/5NV0lb
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Re: Starting from scratch....sort of.

[Trey Young]

Well I read Mike's message at work today and wanted to chime in with something, 
but never had a chance to sit down and put together any thoughts, but kids are 
in bed and I've got a couple of minutes so here goes...

Mike, the fact that you still have that sort of drive to continually push your 
self is awesome.  With that kind of drive, having accomplished what you've 
already accomplished, it is easy to see why you are considered by many (any 
with good taste) one of the premier mandolin players today/ever.  As far as the 
getting lucky thing, well I buy that...once, perhaps you did get one lucky 
break somewhere along the line but you capitalized on it and did from there 
built a reputation for yourself.  As far as the slop you play, well I credit 
the Stomp (thanks to you too David) album to being the reason I became a 
mandolin player over a guitar player (not that the mandolin or music community 
is any better off for it, but I am).  When Stomp was released I had just 
started playing the mandolin because I found a band of guys who were playing 
some unconventional roots music and they wanted a mando picker and I had 
access to one.  I didn't particularly care
 for the mandolin all that much, based on what I had listened to up to that 
point.  Then I bought the Stomp album based on the fact that you were 
Hartford's mandolin picker and my eyes were opened to what a mandolin could do, 
and I've been working on getting to where I can play at least 1/10 as good as 
the slop you put down on that album.  So if you feel that you have untapped 
potential than man that is awesome, I admire that, but don't discount what 
you've done up until now...

Trey





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To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 12:58:58 PM
Subject: Re: Starting from scratchsort of.

The Kenny G of mandolin players - that's hysterical.  

Look Tater, you've got something special going on and anyone who doesn't 
recognize it IS an uneducated ne'r-do-well.

Nothing wrong with re-evaluating, level setting, and checking your progress now 
and again.

As I see it, there are only a handful of mandolin players out there who appear 
to make a decent living at it and it
appears to me that you're one of 'em.  That didn't happen by accident - you 
worked for it and earned it.

Some pretty philosophical responses to your note but I'll go with the immortal 
words of Billy Joel (or was it Kenny G):

Don't go changing, to try and please -- anyone but yourself! 

John Gay
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Re: happy Birthday spud man

[Trey Young]

yeah, happy birthday Mike! Hope it's a good 'ern!
Trey





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Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 7:37:24 AM
Subject: Re: happy Birthday spud man

Will there be cake?  Many happy returns.

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 Happy Birthday! :D

 2010/3/1 Mike mikebunt...@shaw.ca

 And many more!

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Re: Monroe Camp 2010

[Trey Young]

Well there isn't any way possible for me to make it to Monroe Camp 2010 (hell, 
all the way up to 2015 or so realistically) but I would love to hear the answer 
to Don's question (especially for Hartford).

Trey





From: Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 9:06:21 PM
Subject: Re: Monroe Camp 2010

How about something about how Monroe ( Hartford) constructed their
set lists? For example, where in the set list does the chicken song
go? How were their set lists influenced by vaudeville? Actually you
could just answer that one on here as it probably might not take up a
whole class session.

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Re: Monroe Camp 2010

[Trey Young]

Hey Mike, 
 Thanks for those thoughts and insights into the minds of two of the greatest!





From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 6:50:50 PM
Subject: Re: Monroe Camp 2010

Don,
I think Monroe basically just played his hits and took requests. He
seemed to play new tunes as they came around, but he pretty much
played the same show for years, of course varying the songs the guitar
man could sing. Say a guy like Del McCoury would probably have a
different impact on the band's set list than Ralph Lewis or Roland
White or Bill Box or Tom Ewing.

Hartford played to the crowd at hand. He'd done it so much that he
could play about 4-5 songs and figure out 'what they were biting, as
he put it. Then he played songs/tunes to suit. He said he'd play one
for them, then maybe another one for them, then one for him, then
maybe one for him and them, and then another one for them, another for
him, etc. When I first went into his band, John was known pretty much
for doing his old repertoire, but he was really pushing the Haley
fiddle tunes. By the time he had to leave the road, he'd pretty much
become known for playing fiddle tunes with a few pot smoking songs
thrown in for the lifestyle reinforcement crowd, songs about the
river and of course, what John called his money songs.

I don't know that vaudeville played any role in the set list, though I
do know that there was some amount of discussion now and then about
how there had been an established, systematic, and proven method for
putting on a successful show ever since the minstrel days. John said
that Acuff used bits of it, as did Uncle Dave Macon. I'm not sure how
consciously Monroe might have applied it, though I know he did use
knowledge of how to throw his voice that was developed back in the
early days. A successful show without pyrotechnics? Psshhtt...

TBug

On Mar 7, 9:06 pm, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
 How about something about how Monroe ( Hartford) constructed their
 set lists? For example, where in the set list does the chicken song
 go? How were their set lists influenced by vaudeville? Actually you
 could just answer that one on here as it probably might not take up a
 whole class session.

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Re: Love Grown Cold

[Trey Young]

It's one of my favorites on the album and from listening to Hartford shows...





From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 9:06:45 AM
Subject: Re: Love Grown Cold

Lester Flatt sang a couple good versions of it. I first heard it on a
live Opry show with Bill, Lester, Earl, Chubby and Cedric. So you know
it goes back a ways. Hartford used to do it about every other show. I
don't know where it comes from.

Tbug

On Aug 19, 6:52 am, Mike Terry mterry2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Was that an old Johnny Bond song ?

 On Aug 19, 3:03 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:

  Just got my copy of 'Memories of John' and am struck by that song. In fact,
  have to do it. But who is it by? I seem to have a version by Red Allen on my
  ipod, but I can't find anything out there in googlelandia
  Best
  Robin

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Re: My first video post

[Trey Young]

Good job Nelson!





From: Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 11:18:16 AM
Subject: Re: My first video post

Mighty fine Nelson!!!


On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:

All,

After going to Monroe Camp this year and (again) being too shy to jam,
I came up with a multi-faceted plan to make myself get better and more
comfortable with people hearing my playing.  Part of that plan is a
commitment I made to myself to post a YouTube video on the last day of
each month whether it is ready or not.  This provides an incentive for
me to keep a steady work pace and to get accustomed to criticism.

My first attempt is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4Chu3iR7M

I will admit that it is still a bit rough, but I am keeping my pledge
to myself and welcome any honest comments you have.

Thanks,
Nelson

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Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

[Trey Young]

Great job Don!  





From: Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com
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Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:00:47 PM
Subject: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

Hey Nelson,

Time for a video from you, isn't it? Here's one from me. Georgia Home
is from the Original Underground Music From The Mysterious South
album, released on CD as Natasha's Waltz. Played on my Campanella
Dué.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCsPCd3Q2c

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Re: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

[Trey Young]

a song a month seems reasonable to me...





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Sent: Wed, November 24, 2010 8:34:30 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake


Ditto on this one. I think it would be a fine idea. 





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Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 6:46:50 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

Excellent idea! 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From: Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com 
Sender: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com 
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:48:49 -0600
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
ReplyTo: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake
Good one Don!  I think we need to do a song of the month type deal over here in 
Taterland.  Maybe if we include Tater hisself it would kick off pretty good.  
Call a tune, have someone do a recording on Youtube and at the end of the month 
everyone else puts up their version.  Just a thought.

M



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks, guys. Nelson, I haven't heard Shelvin' Rock so I'm looking
forward to your video.


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:10 PM,  nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote:
 Don,

 I'll have to watch the video at home.  The Army doesn't like for us to spend 
time on YouTube when we are working.  What's their problem, anyway?  :)

 Yes, I am behind in my goal.  I have been working on some old time tunes, 
 and 
will get one out pretty soon.  Shelvin' Rock it is fast becoming a favorite 
and 
will probably be the one.

 Nelson


  On Tue 11/23/10  3:51 PM , Michael Romkey mgrom...@gmail.com sent:
 Nice job! Nice tune! Nice mando! Nice to the third power!

 On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Trey Young  wrote:
 Great job Don!
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 FROM: Don
 TO: taterbugmando
 SENT: Mon, November 22, 2010 9:00:47 PM
 SUBJECT: Georgia Home by Norman Blake

 Hey Nelson,
 Time for a video from you, isn't it? Here's one from me.
 Georgia Home
 is from the Original Underground Music From The Mysterious South
 album, released on CD as Natasha's Waltz. Played on my
 Campanella
 Dué.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCsPCd3Q2c [4]

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

[Trey Young]

I'd like to get a copy of that.

On Sat Nov 27th, 2010 11:16 PM EST mistertaterbug wrote:

I'm happy to send an mp3 of Hatcher's version to anyone who wants it.
Bugger

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 Did Hatcher play the crooked B part like the young ladies do, for
 those of us who don't have the original to listen to?

 The A part seems pretty straight forward to play, but the B part is a
 bit tricky, no?

 Signed, Thankful in NM.

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

[Trey Young]

I'd take a copy of the slow'd down version, thanks.
Trey



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Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 2:47:17 PM
Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

I might add, I've got a copy of the Hatcher version slowed down to
about 60% and corrected the pitch if anyone wants that version. Lemme
know.
Buggs

On Nov 28, 4:10 pm, Alexander, Jeffrey
jeffrey.alexan...@louisvilleky.gov wrote:
 Count me in for one.

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 I'm happy to send an mp3 of Hatcher's version to anyone who wants it.
 Bugger

 On Nov 27, 6:23 pm, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Did Hatcher play the crooked B part like the young ladies do, for
  those of us who don't have the original to listen to?

  The A part seems pretty straight forward to play, but the B part is a
  bit tricky, no?

  Signed, Thankful in NM.

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

[Trey Young]

Oh yeah, also, congrats on the Grammy nomination with the Hartford String Band!



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Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 2:53:02 PM
Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

hit me with the slowed down version




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I might add, I've got a copy of the Hatcher version slowed down to about 60% 
and 
corrected the pitch if anyone wants that version. Lemme know. Buggs  On Nov 28, 
4:10 pm, Alexander, Jeffrey jeffrey.alexan...@louisvilleky.gov wrote:  
Count me in for one.   -Original Message-  From: 
taterbugmando@googlegroups.com [mailto:taterbugma...@googlegroups.com]  On 
Behalf Of mistertaterbug  Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:16 PM  To: 
Taterbugmando  Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010   I'm happy to 
send an mp3 of Hatcher's version to anyone who wants it.  Bugger   On Nov 
27, 
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crooked 
B part like the young ladies do, for   those of us who don't have the 
original 
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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

[Trey Young]

Depending on the tune(s) and how busy I am during that month/two weeks, I could 
possibly hang with every two weeks. I like Kathy's idea of picking two at the 
beginning of the month and then you can choose which one to learn first and the 
quicker ones can learn both. Just my 0.02.


  

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

[Trey Young]

Nice job Val!





From: Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wed, December 15, 2010 1:18:56 PM
Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEB-vzpSPT0

There it is ... the link to the really only so-so video of my grub
springs effort. It was an interesting exercise, mostly in getting over
my fear of all the technology involved and then to get a take where I
wasn't swearing or dropping my pick or something and that was short
enough to be reasonable. Anyway, guys, you've all inspired me past the
technology hurdle. Also in examining tunes with such a thoroughness.
Thanks so much. Sorry that I couldn't get a shot with my head
included. I wasn't being coy; the clips with my head in there also
involved the swearing and pick-dropping. Now if I could figure out how
to edit these videos, that would be excellent. best val


On Dec 4, 1:58 pm, mgromkey mgrom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh, I get it. The new posts are at the end so you have to page thru
 till you get to the newest. I don't see an option you can set to put
 the new posts at the top. If anybody has the Rosetta Stone to that
 one, kindly clue me in.

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Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

[Trey Young]

Here is my take on the Grub Springs,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg5HUEOdsz8
,apologies for the tardiness...got busy at the end of the month and never got 
the B part how I wanted it, but figured I might as well go ahead and post what 
I 
had.  Take care,
Trey



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Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 8:31:30 PM
Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010

Hey - I know I'm late to the party.  Here's my shot at Grub - double slops, 
muffs, and all...  


Apologies for the pitiful video - made with my blackberry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA0IKvUZj-s

John Gay
Memphis




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Hat = ring... 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeaLzXbmiYc


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