Seems pretty harsh to suggest these guys don't know how to play just because their music doesn't move you. I'm not particularly moved by this performance either, other to notice that both of these guys have chops way beyond what I can ever hope for, but I mean hey they may have really gotten to somebody and sparked something that music hasn't ever hit before.
________________________________ From: Dasspunk <dassp...@gmail.com> To: Taterbugmando <taterbugmando@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 8:34:56 AM Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield Agreed. I usually look the other way when talented kids use a good tune as a springboard to launch a flurry of self gratifying notes without regard for their need or appropriateness within the tune. It's an extremely common phenomenon that I call this --pardon the term-- musical masturbation. I look the other way because they're kids after all and it often takes a bit of age to go from being *able* to play really well, to actually knowing *how* to play. Unfortunately, I could probably guess who some of their teachers have been and some, though they've not been kids for 30-40+ years, condone and practice musical masturbation regularly. I don't mean to pick on the kids but I would like to see this cycle discontinued. The truth is I'm selfishly desperate for it to change because I want to hear some new, truly great music and settling for circus antics and musical masturbation is robbing me of the chance. I would challenge these immensely talented kids to dig deeper and really learn how to play. Brian On Jan 3, 6:49 pm, Mark Seale <mark.se...@gmail.com> wrote: > No doubt all great players. But, if I walked into the room while Joliff was > playing the first tune on this clip, I would not have known it was > Mississippi Waltz, and I play the tune! And on Old Daingerfield with Alex, > again really done well, but why the need to separate the 3rd part? Because > you can agree to do it? It didn't add anything to what is a great tune. I > enjoyed a lot of the tune development within the tune, but to me it just got > disjointed by creating that space. But, that's just me... :) > > Mark > > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Trey Young <email_t...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwALaWvTWKQ > > > here is one such clip > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Trey Young <email_t...@yahoo.com> > > *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com > > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:50:57 AM > > *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield > > > there are some good clips of Jake Joliff playing with John McGann on the > > youtube... > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* "mandoho...@comcast.net" <mandoho...@comcast.net> > > *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com > > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 11:33:27 AM > > *Subject:* Re: Old Daingerfield > > > Jake Jolliff is the mandolin player, he is from Newberg, Oregon. Jake is a > > Junior at Berklee, lives now in Boston. > > He plays in "Joy Kills Sorrow" with bunch of young musical terrorists, all > > very good, but the language is not > > familiar to me. I know, I'm old. Alex is a junior in high school from > > Corvalis, Oregon. The poor kid doesn't even have a band > > of his own, has to be content to play with Grisman and just finished a > > nation-wide tour with the Jerry Douglas band' I just > > hope he finds some success before he gets out of high school. > > > Clyde Clevenger > > Just My Opinion, But It's Right > > Salem, Oregon > > Old Circle <http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Terry Harvey" <terwaha...@gmail.com> > > To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:53:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > > Subject: Re: Old Daingerfield > > > We just saw Alex H. (the fiddler) with the David Grisman Quintet @ The > > Freight & Salvage in Beserkely on Dec 26th. > > That kid can bow a fiddle!! Who's the mando wunderkind? > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Bill Burnette <bburne...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Very impressive. > > >> Bill in Nashville > > >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:30 AM, <mandoho...@comcast.net> wrote: > > >>> This ain't exactly like Tater or Bill would have played this, but it > >>> was fun to see tonight. > > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMMK3QI4VHg > > >>> Clyde Clevenger > >>> Just My Opinion, But It's Right > >>> Salem, Oregon > >>> Old Circle <http://www.myspace.com/oldcircle> > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Taterbugmando" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > >>> legroups.com> > >>> . > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Taterbugmando" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > >> legroups.com> > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > -- > > "Its never too late to be what we might have been" > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > legroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > legroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > legroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Taterbugmando" group. > > To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<taterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@goog > > legroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Taterbugmando" group. 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