Re: country blues
Bug Water! That sounds like a name Frank Wakefield would give it. On Dec 17, 2010, at 10:14 AM, kathy nichols wrote: Very good points Gathel. I have already learned alot about myself watching my video attempts. Like do I really hold my pick like that?!! Kinda like listening to your own voice. We do tend to be our own worst critics. I also find this group very supportive of everyone's attempts and hope to have my version of Bug Water up soon, double slops and all. Funny how Val and I came up with the same phrase! Kathy On 12/17/10, Gathel Runnels gorunn...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with the big Tater. What's really important is to have fun and do what you can. You learn a lot from listening and watching yourself play. You see all the mistakes and hear that stuff you thought sounded like one thing doesn't really sound that way. It's painful for most of us to see and hear recordings of ourselves but the thing I've realized is that everybody else has already seen and heard what you really sound like and most still like to pick with you. Others have already accepted you for what you are so just do your best and use it as a learning experience. Look at it in very technical terms like how would it sound different if I positioned the mic differently or used more down strokes or bought a much better instrument or whatever. Pretend that your looking at someone else and what would you tell them to make their pickin' better. This has been fun to see how everyone treats the tune a little differently. It's easy to see how, in the days before recordings, that tunes evolved. Keep 'em coming. Gathel On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:48 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: Just do what you can do. No judgements from out here in Taterbug land. Val invented a new phrase the other day by accident(slip of the tongue) that I think applies to all of us. Her phrase is double slops. Too funny, too true. Loosen up and enjoy yourself. You don't have to wear your best hat in front of us. We like you like you are, warts and all. You listening, Clyde? Tbug On Dec 17, 6:16 am, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote: That goes for me too..heck I have only been working on mando serious for a couple of yearsI working too. I draw some and find what I aim for from my head is nothing like what comes out on paper. And its that way with the mando too. I am hearing it, and when I play it on vid, it seems like somebody else and not how my head is hearing it. Remarks from Tater are noted and appreciated. I am aiming for my muse...might be more like a mess though. This is a great exercise challenges on so many levels all in the one go. Still fussing with it..still trying... On Dec 17, 4:00 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: I've been working pretty hard on Grub Springs, have recorded it three times now but what's coming out is not what I'm hearing in my head, I'm not happy with it at all. I think I have to grind it up again a few more times and see what comes out. This is strange for me as I'm not the least bit bashful about my playing, I've been know to jump right into any jam, crash and burn and come up smiling like I meant to do it just like that. But this is different, serious folks that know what they are doing and some mighty fine pickers. Not so easy to skin your ignorance in front of your heroes. I'm working on it. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle - Original Message - From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com Can I say something here? Can I be slightly a hard ass? Here's the deal...this tune of the month thing is about each of us playing our interpretation of a given song/tune. That means, whatever your muse tells you, that's what you do. If you hear a song in a different genre, have at it. If you want to play it on something beside mandolin, do it. Give your emotions their due. Give your whims their due. Give every phrase your best. Don't hold back and let the damned censor take over your creativity before you can even get started. Come on folks, there's enough empty musical dialogue in the world. Make a point, take a stand, pour your heart out. I want to get to know your musical fingerprints... Instiga-tater -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comtaterbugmando%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Re: Song of the Month-December 2010
Nice, Robin! On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:31 AM, Robin Gravina wrote: Here's my effort. Fighting against rushing as always, but the nose looks good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pyV1cWk3f8 Cheers Robin On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:48 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Sounding good, folks. TBug On Dec 5, 1:47 pm, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Nice work! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Fred Keller fkel...@scicable.net Sender: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:26:46 To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Reply-To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010 On 12/5/10 1:15 PM, mgromkey wrote: I'm still a little lost here, folks. It looks as if Fred Keller posted a link or a video but I don't see it any place. Jonas, your's sounds good to me. Can you play these tunes too fast? (g) (Though I confess, I usually like slowing things down from take-no-prisoners Bill Monroe tempo.) Don: The first link should take you straight to the YouTube post. I don't know why it won't embed. You're right: Makes no sense. Will send you an email about collaborating. -- MR Funny. Must've forgotten to post the link. Sorry! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_SmXzwKqAA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Song of the Month-December 2010
I'd like a copy, please. On Dec 2, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Alexander, Jeffrey wrote: Might as well send that to me also. -Original Message- From: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com [mailto:taterbugmando@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of mistertaterbug Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 2:47 PM To: Taterbugmando Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010 I might add, I've got a copy of the Hatcher version slowed down to about 60% and corrected the pitch if anyone wants that version. Lemme know. Buggs On Nov 28, 4:10 pm, Alexander, Jeffrey jeffrey.alexan...@louisvilleky.gov wrote: Count me in for one. -Original Message- From: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com [mailto:taterbugmando@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of mistertaterbug Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:16 PM To: Taterbugmando Subject: Re: Song of the Month-December 2010 I'm happy to send an mp3 of Hatcher's version to anyone who wants it. Bugger On Nov 27, 6:23 pm, Don adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote: Did Hatcher play the crooked B part like the young ladies do, for those of us who don't have the original to listen to? The A part seems pretty straight forward to play, but the B part is a bit tricky, no? Signed, Thankful in NM. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake
Diddly On Nov 24, 2010, at 4:57 PM, mistertaterbug wrote: Well, I can offer up one or two if that's what everybody wants to do. Seems there's about 200 people on the list that ain't saying diddly. Dah Bug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Georgia Home by Norman Blake
Just saying Diddly to check in and not be one of the 200 people not saying diddly. The holidays are great. Took some promo photos with the band yesterday in Philadelphia, we are playing the Sighisoara Blues Festival in Romania in February?!?! Played a gig on Wednesday night with some neat bands (check out Tournevis if they have an internet presence). Today gonna play some mando, some five string, and do some Wiper fishing. Life is Great! On Nov 27, 2010, at 10:47 AM, mistertaterbug wrote: Diddly what, Hoffming? How's the holiday up yonder? TBug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Abridged summary of taterbugmando@googlegroups.com - 9 Messagesin 1 Topic
Bummer on the lack of Bobby tunes. That guy is going strong! I, unlike many folks I meet at shows, really enjoy Bobby's approach to singing. Even more so at times than Jerry, but not all the time. I think it is the subject matter, though. Bobby tunes tend to be country and RB tunes, to a point, where jerry songs are loaded with all kinds of metaphors and Hunterisms that go over my head and through my fingers. Bobby on the other hand is very approachable Did you ever wake to hear street cats making love in the rain Yes, Bobby, I have... Reckoning was my introduction to the Dead. What a great album. George Jones opener, killer Bird Song, To Lay Me Down, and the best Must Have been the roses I have ever heard. If you listen closely to Brent's playing on those acoustic tunes. Who needs Dawg!? Man, it is bad that I haven't contributed to this forum for months until a Dead conversation comes up! FWIW - been working on Charlie McCoy Times Ain't What they Used to Be in F will be posting on youtube soon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Taste
Glad you slipped Alfred Karnes in there! On Oct 21, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Tud Jones wrote: Meds kicked in...feelin better now! On Oct 21, 11:16 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Tud, You didn't explode after that did you? LOL Tbug On Oct 19, 5:56 pm, Tud Jones tudjo...@gmail.com wrote: HowlinWolfBlindWillieJohnsonMonroeRamonesJamesBrownJimmyMartinJerryLeeLewisBobMarleyFiddlinJohnLittleFeatStaplesSingersDennisMcGeeAmedeArdoinDylanMississippiSheiksStanleyBrothersMahaliaJacksonJimmyMurphyElvisSisterRosettaTharpeModernLoversLydiaMendozaTheClashBigStarStevieWonderRedAllenOsborneBrosJohnnyCashLeadbellyWoodyPeteCiscoSonnyBrownieGratefulDeadDeadMilkmenMinutemenDockBoggsOl'HankRevLewisOverstreetLightninHopkinsTheJollyBoysHarryChoatesBobWillsRoseMaddoxPatsyClineBigMamaThorntonTheCarterFamilySkynyrdMollyO'DayBlueSkyBoysRenoSmileyFlattScruggsKarlHartyCharlieIraGraysonWhtterLennonMcCartneySamDaveJimAnderwBaxterFreddieKingNariscoMartinezTownesAlfredKarnesDeFordBaileyChuckBerryFairfieldFourThreeStrippedGearsLordHaveMercyThatIsSomePowerfulMusicHereToday -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Going out on a limb.
Any Charlie McCoy tune, for starters! On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Steve Cantrell wrote: I may be with this one, but when I saw it I had to have it. Now I just have to figure out what tunes might suit it... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . mbjr.jpeg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Please DON'T touch my mandolin
I agree with you , Mark. I play a few different mandolins, each of which is over 80 years old. They have made it this far and are in great shape. I can't imagine what a person who would want to check the mandolin out and play a tune or two could do to hurt my instrument. Then again, they were all under $100 (amazingly!) so I am not concerned about a financial investment. Hoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Movie planned about life of Bill Monroe
Peter Sarsgaard is a very talented actor. I think it is great that he is taking the initiative to learn to play mandolin. I am sure he can find somebody in New York to help him learn to play mandolin! On Sep 17, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Terry Bullin wrote: Peter Sarsgaard, 39, is cast as Monroe. I talked to Peter on the phone the other day, Woodward said. He was in New York taking mandolin lessons. He plays guitar, but he needs to be able to play mandolin for the movie. Yea, I'm sure after a couple of lessons in NEW YORK, he will have no trouble playing rawhideyea right. What I want to know is who's going to teach him to sing like Bill? Good luck with that! --- On Fri, 9/17/10, johnhga...@aol.com johnhga...@aol.com wrote: From: johnhga...@aol.com johnhga...@aol.com Subject: Movie planned about life of Bill Monroe To: m...@yahoogroups.com, deepgr...@yahoogroups.com, taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 11:32 AM Saw a link on mandolincafe.com to another article about the Bill Monroe movie that's in the works... John http://www.californiachronicle.com/articles/yb/149878570 Producer hopes to shoot part of film in Rosine and Owensboro Sept. 16--Bessie Lee Mauldin was 17 when she met Bill Monroe in the fall of 1938. He had just turned 27, was already a singing star with his brother, Charlie, in the Monroe Brothers -- and was married. But three years later, Monroe, by then a member of the Grand Ole Opry, moved Mauldin to Nashville and made her his road girlfriend, Richard D. Smith wrote in Can't You Hear Me Callin', his 2000 biography of the father of bluegrass music. Over the next four decades, Monroe and Mauldin had a turbulent romance that inspired several major bluegrass songs -- apparently including Blue Moon of Kentucky, Smith wrote. Now, a Hollywood company is gearing up to film a movie based on Smith's book. And the producer, Trevor Jolly, hopes to shoot part of it in Owensboro and Monroe's hometown of Rosine, he said in an e-mail. I've read the script, said Owensboro businessman Terry Woodward, who is vice chairman of the International Bluegrass Music Museum. It's a love story about Bill and Bessie Lee. And that worries Campbell Mercer, executive director of the Jerusalem Ridge Foundation, which owns Monroe's childhood home and farm in Ohio County. My concern is that the film not make a mockery of Bill, Mercer, a keeper of the Monroe flame, said Tuesday. It's based on a book by Richard D. Smith. It was a book that needed to be written, but it was written by the wrong guy. Mercer would prefer a movie that focused on Monroe's music, not his infidelities. But Mauldin is considered to have been Monroe's muse. Their child, which she gave up for adoption, according to the book, inspired the song, My Little Georgia Rose. And Mauldin, a bass player with Monroe's Blue Grass Boys off and on for two decades, played on 99 of Monroe's recordings. Reminded that the soundtrack for Bonnie and Clyde, the 1967 movie about gangsters Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker, contained a lot of bluegrass music and brought a lot of new fans to the genre, Mercer said, This time I'm afraid Bill is going to be Clyde. Funny stories out there Still, he says, there are some awful funny stories about Bill and Bessie Lee out there, including one about Mauldin wrestling another of Monroe's girlfriends to the ground in North Carolina. Maggie Gyllenhaal, 32, who was nominated for an Oscar for her role in last year's Crazy Heart, recently told ScreenCrave.com that she will portray Mauldin in the movie. Her husband, Peter Sarsgaard, 39, is cast as Monroe. I talked to Peter on the phone the other day, Woodward said. He was in New York taking mandolin lessons. He plays guitar, but he needs to be able to play mandolin for the movie. Woodward said: He's very enthusiastic about the movie. He said his father was a big bluegrass fan. The ScreenCrave story said Joseph Henry T-Bone Burnett, who produced the soundtrack for O Brother, Where Art Thou?, which sold 8 million copies, and collaborated on Crazy Heart will do the music for Blue Moon. Callie Khouri, who grew up in Paducah and wrote Thelma Louise, wrote the script. She and T-Bone are married, Woodward said. Jolly, whose credits include being sound supervisor on American Beauty and The Whole Ten Yards as well as on episodes of Lost, The Shield and Alias, is producing. Finn Taylor (The Darwin Awards, Cherish, Dream With The Fishes) will direct. Taylor has visited Owensboro four times and Jolly, three times so far, Woodward said. One day when they were here, we walked down to the Famous Bistro for lunch, he said. They said they liked some of the buildings downtown and might want to film some here. I just listened. Yes, hoping to shoot scenes at Rosine and Owensboro, Jolly said in an e-mail Tuesday. Too early for specifics though. Woodward says the
Re: Harry Smith Frolic
Great Val! Let's meet up. It is a small festival, but we should definitely get together and play some tunes. I camp in the small wooded depression down behind the red cabins. I will have a slate colored Mitsubishi with a silver container on top. Can't Wait Mike On Jul 5, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Val Mindel wrote: It's an excellent festival, and this year I plan to be there, given cars that start, etc. On Jul 4, 8:05 pm, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all. The Eighth Annual Harry Smith Frolic is this upcoming weekend in Greenfield, Ma. This year we will be recreating Volume 2 of the Anthology of American Folk music. We go through the volume song by song and volunteers get up to do their version of each song until we make it through the whole thing. That is just Saturday Night though, so you have the rest of the weekend to hang out, eat, play music, and swim. Children under 30 are free. http://www.sacrasoft.com/HarrySmith/ Hoffming -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Harry Smith Frolic
Hey all. The Eighth Annual Harry Smith Frolic is this upcoming weekend in Greenfield, Ma. This year we will be recreating Volume 2 of the Anthology of American Folk music. We go through the volume song by song and volunteers get up to do their version of each song until we make it through the whole thing. That is just Saturday Night though, so you have the rest of the weekend to hang out, eat, play music, and swim. Children under 30 are free. http://www.sacrasoft.com/HarrySmith/ Hoffming -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: All about Mrs Haley
Me too! And Doc Roberts playing is beautiful. I love that Honeymoon Stomp, I have been working on it and plan on playing it in Kentucky on my Honeymoon. On Jun 21, 2010, at 1:14 PM, Tud Jones wrote: Don't want to veer to far off topic but I've always dug the mando backup in the Hoyt Ming recordings...http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=77DqfsT_rF8feature=related On Jun 21, 12:10 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: I reckon another way of saying that, or a clearer way, is that Monroe's right hand didn't always play the 'rhythm melody' when the left hand was, nor did his left hand always play the melody when his right hand was. Then, there's that abstract thing to consider, and the implied notes, and...Oh what the hell, it's *just* bluegrass mandolin. How could it *possibly* be that difficult or advanced? Bugs On Jun 21, 9:28 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like to me you guys have got it well in hand. My ramblings about Ella and her methods are purely my own way of understanding what she's doing, but I think this all bears out pretty well to the test. To me, Ella is a step ahead of fiddlesticks players, dancers and drummers when they play melody with percussion only(not that drums don't have pitch). It sounds like Monroe took the same idea and played it with tremolo, not just chord strums, and built melody and rhythmic backup too, though I don't think his use of it was always related to the melody specifically, but oftentimes to an alternate rhythmic pattern built into the melody. All this thinking makes my head hurt. TBug On Jun 21, 8:47 am, Mark Halpin tomas...@yahoo.com wrote: I think one of the advantages of say trios or duets is that it demands that the instruments are shifted from their normal sound space and have to find new voices to support each other. The genius of Bluegrass, for instance, is that each instrument has its own sound space and as a result they all support each other, but, the danger with that is that the space can become so defined that it can also serve to limit the possibilities for each instrument. Approaching even bluegrass material as a trio or duo straight away offers you the difficulty of freedom... just how do you fill for the missing instruments on the selection that you have left? I think it was earlier in that same interview that Mr. Tater mentioned encountering the same trouble when working on the album with David Grier, that the bluegrass chop just wouldnt cut the mustard in that situation, so new backup solutions on the mandolin had to be found. For me that right there is the interest, that someone is kinda kicked from their comfort zone and they have to engage their imagination and ear again (thats not to imply that Mr. Tater was not being imaginative before the Grier album ;-) Also i think that the more stripped back nature of a two or three players does not leave much for a musician to hide behind, in my opinion, it demands that you listen to and interact more with the other players, and thats where the natural familiarity of family groups like the Haleys, Stanleys, Louvins, Monroes etc plays an advantage lending a second-nature to the interaction... and we all can marvel in the wonder that sort of initmacy can produce in music. The real wonder for me though is when you have a group of musicians who are unused to each other, or, as i said above, are shunted from their traditional roles and are flying by the seat of their pants, sometimes yes sir, the results can be ragged other times it can produce moments of pure unexpected adrenalin fueled magic . On Jun 21, 2:44 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote: Sign me up for trios too. Myself, my fiddler Paul and Bob Black sat down one night and played as a trio for about 4 hours straight. With no guitar player to hold us back, them were some lively tunes! Bob has great rhythm sensibilities himself and it was a joy to play off each other. I also find it interesting that--for whatever reason--my love of the duet seems to be shared with a number of folks on this list... it's nice to know I'm not alone! Brian On Jun 18, 8:28 am, Mark Halpin tomas...@yahoo.com wrote: Some of my favorite Tater ventures have to be on 'The Speed of the Old Long Bow' and t'other John Hartford old-time-fiddler-tribute albums... i dont dance much but i knows they do make for fine jogging musics. From one of the old Co-mando interviews Mr. Tate tells that John Hartford was looking for something along the lines of what Ela Haley was doing on mandolin. Hers how its put in the interview 'Haley's wife Ela played taterbug (or roundback for you yanks) mandolin on the recordings. She played simple chords with a heavy- handed rhythm and that's what John said he really wanted me to do. I thought it was a very primitive way to play mandolin until I started to notice Ela seemed to be playing the melody
Re: More listening suggestion requests...
Guessing Ted Hawkins. He played with Riley and the Skillet Lickers with Gordon Tanner in the 1934 era. Skillet Lickers Volume 6 contains mandolin on just about every track, played by Ted Hawkins. For Old Time Mandolin, I would love to recommend Volume 6. There are some duets between Ted and Riley, notable Rainbow Waltz and Hawkins Rag. Despite all of the fiddles, Ted carries quite a load on the later Skillet Lickers version of Back up and Push. Hoff On May 25, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Jonathan Trawick wrote: anybody know who the mando picker is here with riley? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPKqlt-Med8feature=related jt On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Tud Jones tudjo...@gmail.com wrote: The British Archive of Country Music (http:// bacm.users.btopenworld.com/) is a great source for somewhat obscure stuff like Mac and Bob (and other WLS Barn Dance musicians/bands) On May 18, 1:20 pm, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Fred, should have know Countysales would have it. Wish their stuff would show up in searches more often... B On May 18, 10:35 am, Fred Keller fkel...@scicable.net wrote: On 5/18/10 10:32 AM, Fred Keller wrote: On 5/18/10 10:26 AM, Dasspunk wrote: Link police! Mac and Bob:http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=F6RmZPc9Xpo(anyonegot links to recordings?) Not sure who the Callahans are... B http://www.countysales.com/php-bin/ecomm4/products.php?category_id=p ... Search for callahan at the same site for a recording. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Monroe Camp 2010
Just wishing I had more time to play my mandolin, Spud man. I have been able to get completely hooked on Waylon Jennings' album Honky Tonk Heros during my increased time in the car lately. Dng. See you at camp sometime! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: This Saturday at Harvard University
After my writing professor as an undergrad saw me playing a banjo out at a bar she told me that she studied somewhere (not studied banjo!) with Allison Brown. Who says banjo players are dumb! Tater, I saw Allison and NBB on the same bill at Knowlton Riverfest in Jersey a few years back. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Catnip by Wake Frankfield
Frank, as far as I have experienced is one of the most honest, down to earth people I have ever met. He also works and has worked very hard to be a tremendous mandolin player. On top of that, he is quite eccentric. In my opinion, the complete package. When I first met Frank in 2003 I was not a big fan of his live band. The band he is playing with now is tremendous and is made up of local upstate New York guys. Come to think of it, I have never heard Frank say something mean about somebody I asked about from Red Allen to Sticky Raggs. He may say things like, he drinks/drank a lot about an old friend, but on top of that he will tell you ten reasons why he likes the guy. Also, after a few lessons with Frank I definitely couldn't mutt the custard but Frank invited a friend and I up on stage with him and took the time to work out stuff with us to fit into the show! Not every bluegrass star will do that. For some really great Frank check out Don't Lie to Me the Greenbriar Boys Better Late than Never and Frank Wakefield and the Good Ole Boys Pistol Packin' Mama Mike H -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Alex playng Old Time
I can't listen to that Thile interpretation of the Bach prelude in E major that was recently posted on the Cafe and think of an ill word to say about his playing. He has definitely interpreted very old-time music beautifully and in a technically wonderful manner. I used to trump tradition over musical technique, but then I came to realize that I do not have the time invested in this music to make a judgement about any professional or other hobbyist who also plays music. Life is short, if anybody is forcing themselves to play music only to impress others and not to impress themselves and they don't eventually tire of it then they have found a perfectly acceptable way to impress others and I am fine with that. If that is what keeps them ticking more power to them! I am definitely more of a traditionalist, but at an old-time festival me and some friends were taking a break from playing music. We set up a makeshift tennis court and put on an old cassette of an 80's dead show loud enough for us to hear in our little corner of the campground, the Blues Ghetto. One of the festival goers complained about the electric music. Thankfully, one of the gentlemen who put on the festival reinforced our right to enjoy ourselves which we did briefly before retiring to the campfire for more old-time tunes. Later we were playing some Donovan music on a pump organ, banjo, mandolin, harmonica, and 12-string. The same gentlemen commented that we were wasting our time not playing old-time music. Luckily, this old curmudgeon didn't bother too much more. While discussing the situation we realized that our generation of old-time music is separated from early psychedelic rock by the same amount of time that the first wave of old-time revivalist are separated from the Skillet Lickers and Leake County Revelers. What will my kids be doing in their 20's!!?? In this young man's opinion people can do what they want, without willingly harming others. I would love to one day play some Mississippi tunes with one of these beautifully bowing young fiddlers! Also, it has been said many times, but Old-time is often pigeon-holed as dance music, which some of it certainly is. For me, other types of old-time music are definitely parlor music, listening music, and just plain enjoying music. I enjoy playing breakdowns, waltzes, and the such, but I also really enjoy playing the vaudeville type tunes which many of the old-time bands I enjoy put out on record. I also love old blues music. I have been exhilarated playing for a dance, but I have also been exhilarated busking on the street and playing for a seated crowd. It is a good thing Mississippi John Hurt didn't focus all of his energy on backing up dance bands! Okay, I am done. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: How long to be a decent picker
I am reading Dr. Faustus by Thomas Mann right now. Young Adrian, the composer in the novel, sits in his room with a keyboard modulating from chord to chord in as many ways as possible. He rewrites symphonies for piano, including only the harmonies which he can and which sound the best to his ears. Beethoven very well could have given up on his natural talent, but he worked and continued. I am sure that it wasn't all natural talent. Even the classical composers who have it at birth learned by reworking the works of others continually. I do believe that music is a combination of natural ability and drive (practice) We all have different amounts of each and we will all end up someplace else on the spectrum at different points in our lives. I will continue to play as long as I feel good when I am playing no matter how I sound. Dennis, you must have something! Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Xmas Presents...What Did You Git?
On Dec 18, 2009, at 10:16 AM, mistertaterbug wrote: Hopsmann, I've been thinking about finding something to do that ain't quite so break-neck. Maybe growing hops is a good peaceful alternative to this lavish high-profile lifestyle I have now...LOL. Speaking of hops, I was also reading that rabbits are the highest in protein and lowest in fat content of most anything that has hair or feathers. I wonder if they counted squirrel into that survey? Taterhops On Dec 17, 11:57 pm, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, do you brew? I have a steam beer finishing up primary right now. All Sussex County, NJ Hops. There is also a Wheat, crystal malYerba Mate and Franklin County, MA hopped 2 gallon experiment slowing down as well. Tater, hops are becoming a lucrative business. Hopsmann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. inline: squirrel.jpg
Re: Xmas Presents...What Did You Git?
A meal that came wrapped in the cutest little rosin bag! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Xmas Presents...What Did You Git?
Bought my girl a guitar, and me a a couple new sets of strings for the mando, banjo, and electric guitar!!! On Dec 17, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Paul Priest wrote: Well Uncle Tater... Nothing mandolin related thus far,BUT I did buy myself an Enoch open back banjo with a 12 pot and a frailing scoop. NowIf I could just play the d*#n thing. Good for some oldtime tunes(if I could learn to drop my thumb). Maybe Miss Ang will buy me another Monroe boxed set. That'd be good. I have a good stout on tap(and a mocha stout ready to keg),so come see me! Merry Christmas all, -Paul Custer,KY --- On Thu, 12/17/09, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com Subject: Xmas Presents...What Did You Git? To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 6:39 PM I know it's a little early, but if anybody's got a new Xmas present that's mando music related like mandos, dolas, cellos, banjolins, sheet music, antique mando tutors, CDs, DVDs, tone reducers, arm rests, plectrums, or maybe a nice shiny new capo? If not now, at least after the big holiday let us know what the fat man in the red suit brought you in the line of mando content. And, just in case you're in need of some last minute shopping, I know where there's two dandy two- point acoustic/electric mandolins and a hoss of a mandola that're just dying to find a new home. Happy Holidays! May we all get capos and use them with pride, Mistertaterbug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Nilent Sight
I found this version of Silent Night that I recorded last year around this time. Anyone learn any Christmas tunes this year? If we have to listen to it, we might as well play it, right? Actually I really like Christmas tunes cause everyone knows them. Taterbug Mando Christmas music LP anyone? I learned this from a Frank Wakefield article in Inside Bluegrass Magazine. Anybody have any of those? Mike http://www.av1611.org/othpubls/santa.html; Hoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: Nilent Sight
Forgot the link to the song. That link in my nickname was something I found looking for the nickname for that Evil Santa helper demon that is a folk hero in Europe. I came across this page made by a group of people who claim that Santa is evil! I couldn't resist sharing. Here is the link to Silent Night! http://samjessin-stomp.blogspot.com/2009/12/nilent-sight.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: New R.Wood mandos
Believe me Tate, I searched the whole world over, I slept out in the clover and I still can't find that perfect chip! But seriously that is a nice mandolin - one day I'll be in the market for a tool like that! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: hearing yourself
I really enjoy hearing myself and I try to carry around a cassette recorder at festivals and parties. It is painful to hear those things that you wish never existed, but it is also a good way to catch them and learn from them, i.e. ignore the temptation next time. I also sometimes finding myself listening repeatedly to something that i was involved in which always makes the soul feel good. What is really nice is to hear that NOBODY likes the way their own voice sounds speaking. If we recognize that maybe some of the restricting feelings that come when we think about our own playing are universal and even the greats have to fight them maybe we can learn to be confident! Hoff - not the one who was just put in a psych ward! On Dec 2, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Steve Cantrell wrote: I have recently started doing this as often as possible and it is pretty revealing. I've had the opportunity to both wince and pat myself on the back, so I recommend it for anyone who is intent on learning to improvise in this style. My .1 cents worth. From: Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 2:55:33 PM Subject: Re: hearing yourself Chef, Yes, you will eventually get used to hearing your own voice/mando. That's not to say you'll be okay with it... just used to it :) I would (and do) opine that one absolutely must listen to oneself play and sing regularly in order to improve. Doing so is quite the ear opener to be sure and is oftentimes painful, yes... I record all of my shows and as the saying goes, the truth hurts... I'm still waiting for the set me free part I can think of a few folks whom I wish I could FORCE to listen to themselves play ;) Brian On Dec 2, 10:10 am, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I recorded a jam from the other day. I have recorded myself with other in the past but have never gotten used to hearing my self, the mandolin I am used to, but me, no. There are times that in the heat of the moment I feel there are some great harmonies but when I listen back I hear inadequacies(sp?). Maybe it's just a more careful listen, looking for errors or how to improve for next time. Whether or not I did my job properly vocally rarely does it sound like me. So here goes a more direct approach Do you ever get used to hearing your own voice on recordings? Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en.
Re: New R.Wood mandos
Well you ain't got much else to do! On Dec 1, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Fred wrote: You're dead wrong there. What with the time dilation effect of the THC you ought to have all the time in the world to practice...just not well. Robin Gravina wrote: Its hard to be a real pothead and have time to practice! Just theorising. 2009/12/1, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com: No problem, John. Glad to see you're so easy to please. Nah, it ain't a pot leaf. I asked him to take it off because lord knows if I was flashing that headstock around sooner or later I'd be invited to partake of the evil weed and I wouldn't be able to hold up my end. I tried for years to be a bonafide pothead and I just couldn't get the hang of it. So, on to other things like overpriced beer and quarter- cask Laphroaig. Whe! Toasted Tater On Nov 29, 8:15 am, john malayter malagr...@gmail.com wrote: That headstock will attract a lot of attention! LOL Thanks man it made my day JM On Nov 28, 9:30 pm, mark.se...@gmail.com wrote: That's a good look. My Gibson MM has the black buttons. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:25:58 To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New R.Wood mandos Also, we talked about using the Elite tuners with the black buttons. Sexy. TBug On Nov 28, 1:06 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, here's a link to some pix of the R.Wood two-points... http://www.flickr.com/photos/45096...@n04/ TBug On Nov 27, 4:56 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a link to the electronics... http://www.kksound.com/mandolintwininternal.html Electri-tater On Nov 27, 10:48 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a link to the first blurb regarding this subject: http://www.mandolincafe.com/forum/showthread.php?p=737946#post737946 The whole deal? This new Randy Wood mandolin design will be modeled after the Randy Wood two-point design that I played on for a few years whilst with Hubert Davis. The original has a long scale and one piece back and top, snakehead design with rosewood overlay. The new ones will be a faithful reproduction of the old #1, and will include a pickguard and possibly an Allen tailpiece with Randy Wood's signature. The only significant difference will be that it will have a KK pickup system installed which will make the instrument acoustic/ electric. The pickups are glued to the underside of the top and are two brass discs/ diaphragms with wires attached. The only sign of the pickup is the endpin jack. I tried out two prototypes in Randy's shop last weekend and the pickups are quite sensitive and sound surprisingly like...you got it...a mandolin. This system allows for playing the mandolin and using the natural dynamics of the box. The two prototypes have compound radiused fingerboards, I believe beginning at a 12 radius and ending with 18 which seems a lot more flat at the bridge, but still I'm not used to that feel, so I've asked for a flat board. I believe Randy has used a very thin lacquer for the finish. The two prototypes are for sale at $5K, one a pumpkin top and the other sunburst. The sunburst neck is larger than the pumpkin. Randy says that each is offered with a money-back, no-questions- asked guarantee. I will be putting pics up of the two before long. For all you folks who are in need of one of these, keep your eyes peeled. I am looking forward to getting ahold of one of the finished models and trying it out. It will sure make my life easier in the coming months, what with the EC sessions and tour. I think Randy said that we will be looking at a $6K pricetag, so that is well within the realm of possibility for folks wanting a top-notch acoustic/electric. Taterbug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at
Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam
Some fiddlers in New England play a Sally Gooden in G, I also have heard Gene Goforth doing it out of G. I really like the idea of learning an A tune in G in case the banjo player doesn't have a capo. Just another excuse to see how different keys relate/differ from each other. On Nov 19, 2009, at 9:29 AM, 14strings wrote: Erik I like your idea about learning tunes that are traditionally played out of A, in G. Jody Stecher does a real nice version of Sally Goodin out of G; it's on the Mandolin 2000 Mel Bay book.(I think Mel changed the title of that book since it's initial publication) Elliot is my favorite guitar capo; it has a thumb screw on there so you can get just the right amoint of tension to get a clear note but without putting the strings out of tune. The design lets you store it right behind the nut when not capoing; a major advantage in my book. D'Addario's Planet Waves just came out with a $15 capo that works on the same principle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl= . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=.
Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam
One of the things I really like about mandolin is finding the character of different keys. I am yet to explore some REALLY odd keys like A flat, but I play in Bb and Eb more than I play in D and A. Just like Mando Chef wrote, Eb makes really great use of that open G and Bb the open D. Bb and Eb allow for a great range all in first position! I have a mandolin tuned down three half steps and I bring it to the local old-time jam which lives in D and A. I get to figure stuff out in F and C. It is a fun little way to learn odd keys. I was playing Vicksburg stomp on guitar with a mandolin player who insisted on playing it in E. I put the old squeezer on the first fret and played it the way I know in Eb. I was not going to barre a C# and F# chord when I could play them open. Sort of the opposite deal, using a capo to play in a flat key! It is neat that you learned Sally Goodin in Eb, I put Down Yonder in Eb out of boredom while watching a Giants game and love it! New Camptown Races is a lot like Billy in the Lowground in Bb. Now, I see nothing wrong with using a capo to play in a different key in a pinch in a recording session, but at home or at a jam, take it off and see what develops. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugma...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=.
Re: Thinking more outside of a Jam
Well, I am mostly playing for myself, so I think I do these types of things for educational purposes, and you are right it probably would sound better in the original key. Although some friends and I play Bury me beneath the weeping willow as a blues in Bb, why, because we play a lot of Miss. Sheiks blues in Bb (think Blue sky blues) and like the way things sound there, so we messed around with Weeping Willow as a blues instrumental. We played it once, it was fun, we played it again. Not complete folly, but again, we are playing for ourselves. Perhaps the reason some friends of mine had a band and they called it Folly. Folly is a funny word! Sally Goodin in E flat, well you could play the low and high octaves both in first position without using an open tuning, that is one advantage. You would have to convince the other members of your jam/group/local preservation society, that is one disadvantage. I think these things are done out of boredom, a sense of exploration, and just to piss people off. On Nov 18, 2009, at 6:05 PM, mistertaterbug wrote: No, you won't give me shit either because I've got better things to do and won't listen to it. I also see no reason to learn tunes in oddball keys just for the sake of it, though I will admit there is an education there. Tunes are played in the keys they are played in for a reason, mainly because that's where they work the best as far as fingerings and palette. The are a few people who can take a tune and rework it to great effect, truly (say Dick Barrett) but I think it to be folly to play Sally Goodin in E flat. Why do it? TBug On Nov 18, 10:41 am, Dasspunk dassp...@gmail.com wrote: And I'll be myself and give you shit about it regularly ;) B On Nov 18, 8:56 am, Mike Hedding michaelhedd...@gmail.com wrote: Alright at the advice of everyone I am going to just be myself then. I am keeping my tuner on my headstock and no one is going to stop me! Mike Hedding On Nov 18, 2009, at 7:53 AM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone cares to, go to Remember the Cross and That Home Above by the Monroe/Flatt/Scruggs/Wise/Rainwater band. One is clearly B, the other B flat. But, they are both clearly played out of A. There are a number of other noteworthy cuts, The First Whippoorwill for one, that are played out of one key but are clearly not pitched in that key. So, did fucking Bill Monroe (to quote fucking Gaudreau) tune up or capo up? It's not tape drag. As Terry Bullin once said,Well, maybe he did it in the studio but surely he wouldn't have done it out in public. It's just silly. If the situation requires a different voice and the capo provides it, use it. When did it become against the rules to use the tools? I started using a capo now and then due to saving time and aggravation in the studio. Also, open tunings. I'd really love to use more open tunings. Listen to the cut on Dr. Ralph's recording of Lift Him Up. That's tuned open, but there were a few songs where we tuned open only to have TBone say that he'd like to go up a half step. Now, retuning 8 strings on a mandolin every which way and expecting it to settle down in a few minutes is just unreasonable. Slapping on a capo is not, especially when time is money. As for working up solos and improvising... I think that maybe we can go back to the Father one more time and consider this approach. Over the years, if I listen to songs that Monroe did over a number of decades, such as Uncle Pen, On and On, Bluegrass Breakdown, etc, what I hear is a script, a framework over which variations are applied. I'm not talking about the construction of the song so much as I am the construction of his solos in the song. It seems that he worked out a solo that served as the basic pattern to follow, but changed small aspects of it occasionally as his whim dictated. But the basic script was predominantly the same. This may be helpful, maybe not. Just thought I'd throw it out there. I had a short conversation with Russ Barenburg the other day and the subject of improvisation came up. He said that he occasionally has people ask him about improvising, as do I. It's really an individual learning experience and there doesn't seem to be any one way to approach it or teach it. He said that to him it is ridiculous to assume that it is possible to whip out an improvised solo that rivals something that requires one sitting down and working it out and learning it over the course of say, several months. But that seems to be what some people assume they will be able to do with a few rules. I think that it is easy to overlook the fact that the sound our heros have/had did not just appear overnight but took sometimes a lifetime of blood, sweat, and tears to acquire. There is too much impatience in us all. I think that Eric has a valid point,
Re: Going in the bag this week...
Also wicked that Napalm Death is a related video! Ha, used to listen to them in High school! On Nov 12, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Steve Cantrell wrote: ...and that's a wicked kick-off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VIJtrnfC-U --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Combining a few threads
I love the Black and White Rag that is floating around youtubeville, also. On Nov 12, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Mando Chef wrote: sweet tune, Mark . He has a sweet Sally Goodern too! catchya tonight On Nov 11, 9:40 am, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote: So with the talk of Kenny Baker, improvisation, and practicing I thought I would share this. This video is a friend of mine from Missouri. He taught swing at our Fiddle camp earlier this year and will be a judge at this year's TOTFA (Texas Old Time Fiddlers Association) convention. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qyvt5p6O1Y Mark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: William Place Jr. Methods Books 1 - 3
I bought the Bickford book in digital form from Djangobooks.com On Nov 11, 2009, at 5:20 PM, Alexander, Jeffrey wrote: How did you find the Bickford book? I would love to see that. Jeff -Original Message- From: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com [mailto:taterbugma...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hoffmann Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:44 PM To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: William Place Jr. Methods Books 1 - 3 Linda, I have another book on duo and trio style playing which I feel, more so than the simply double stops, emphasizes the picking patterns used to make one mandolin sound like two (duo) or three (trio) using double and triple stops. Frank Wakefield is a big proponent of this style. Dang, I gotta work on that book more. It is available on Djangobooks.com good luck! Mike On Nov 11, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Linda wrote: The rest of the story is I find the Bickford book 1 (found on line for free) is better than the Place book. Also found out, the technique most interested in here, is called duo.. meaning playing melody on more than one string, (double stops). Thank you Mike. Seems books 2 onward have more on duo than book 1. All smiles here about this. ljt On Nov 9, 2:39 pm, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote: Mike, I sent away to some place in NYC or even maybe telephoned to order, they only had Book 1 and 2. I wonder if he even made book 3. If you can stand to go to the trouble there are likely some copies about somewhere in your area. I got mine in the early 90's. Never heard of Bickfords. Interested...too. I think William Place was playing mandolin in the 30's. The books have been reprinted several times. Every now and again I do a big computer search...no luck ever. Have seen book 1 and 2 for sale once in a blue moon. I would love to put my eyes on Book 3! cheers linda On Nov 9, 12:56 pm, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote: Linda - very interested. Once I can acquire some more time I want to have another go at Bickford's method. I am historically very interested in, but bad at following up on, learning from these old method books. Did you buy digital copies or paper copies of 1 and 2? Mike On Nov 8, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Linda wrote: The previous thread, brings up ..my quest for book three in this series. They are all out of print me thinks. Has anyone ever used his books..besides me? Has anyone ever seen book 3. Curious for two decades about book 3, never seen it anywhere, not even a mention of it. linda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: William Place Jr. Methods Books 1 - 3
The Bickford book goes into Duo and Trio a little, but I learned about it by picking up a book at an antique store called Etienne's Duo and Trio mandolin It was put out by Oliver Ditson. It explains a lot of the playing style in written format. There is lots of reading to go along with the music. That is a book I should really digitize. The old way of learning is so different. Do it over and over and over in different styles. If anyone is interested maybe I should go about the work of digitzing Etienne's. On Nov 11, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Linda wrote: Jeff, You can go here http://www.archive.org/details/bickfordmandolin01bick and on the far left are read and download options. Or, do a search on Bickford's Mandolin Method. Mike what is the name of the books you refer to? Linda On Nov 12, 9:20 am, Alexander, Jeffrey jeffrey.alexan...@louisvilleky.gov wrote: How did you find the Bickford book? I would love to see that. Jeff -Original Message- From: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com [mailto:taterbugma...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hoffmann Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:44 PM To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: William Place Jr. Methods Books 1 - 3 Linda, I have another book on duo and trio style playing which I feel, more so than the simply double stops, emphasizes the picking patterns used to make one mandolin sound like two (duo) or three (trio) using double and triple stops. Frank Wakefield is a big proponent of this style. Dang, I gotta work on that book more. It is available on Djangobooks.com good luck! Mike On Nov 11, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Linda wrote: The rest of the story is I find the Bickford book 1 (found on line for free) is better than the Place book. Also found out, the technique most interested in here, is called duo.. meaning playing melody on more than one string, (double stops). Thank you Mike. Seems books 2 onward have more on duo than book 1. All smiles here about this. ljt On Nov 9, 2:39 pm, Linda lj...@intas.net.au wrote: Mike, I sent away to some place in NYC or even maybe telephoned to order, they only had Book 1 and 2. I wonder if he even made book 3. If you can stand to go to the trouble there are likely some copies about somewhere in your area. I got mine in the early 90's. Never heard of Bickfords. Interested...too. I think William Place was playing mandolin in the 30's. The books have been reprinted several times. Every now and again I do a big computer search...no luck ever. Have seen book 1 and 2 for sale once in a blue moon. I would love to put my eyes on Book 3! cheers linda On Nov 9, 12:56 pm, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote: Linda - very interested. Once I can acquire some more time I want to have another go at Bickford's method. I am historically very interested in, but bad at following up on, learning from these old method books. Did you buy digital copies or paper copies of 1 and 2? Mike On Nov 8, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Linda wrote: The previous thread, brings up ..my quest for book three in this series. They are all out of print me thinks. Has anyone ever used his books..besides me? Has anyone ever seen book 3. Curious for two decades about book 3, never seen it anywhere, not even a mention of it. linda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: William Place Jr. Methods Books 1 - 3
Linda - very interested. Once I can acquire some more time I want to have another go at Bickford's method. I am historically very interested in, but bad at following up on, learning from these old method books. Did you buy digital copies or paper copies of 1 and 2? Mike On Nov 8, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Linda wrote: The previous thread, brings up ..my quest for book three in this series. They are all out of print me thinks. Has anyone ever used his books..besides me? Has anyone ever seen book 3. Curious for two decades about book 3, never seen it anywhere, not even a mention of it. linda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A Couple New YouTubes
If you have enough mandolins lying around it might be neat to through a natural D string on the course where the G formerly was in addition to the string tuned down to D. May make your head split, but would be a neat lil' D tuned mandolin. On Oct 28, 2009, at 8:42 AM, mistertaterbug wrote: Erik, Yessir, there are three octaves of D and one solitary A string. I have an old fiddle tune called Post Oak Grove that works pretty well out of that tuning too. Sounds almost regal. Tunerbug On Oct 27, 5:42 pm, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote: Just cuz I was fooling around with how low I can tune my strings, when you say DDAD, are there three different D notes or two? I was trying a D(low) D(normal) AD(high) for the jig Frieze Britches the other day that was pretty wild erik On Oct 27, 2:29 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Nice Donster, Have you tried Midnight... in DDAD? Tatuh On Oct 25, 7:58 pm, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote: Finally got back to participating in the Mando Cafe Song A Week group. Midnight on the Waterhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI09NhGBon4 Master Crowley's Reelhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcDVn8KiQJQ-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The Ideal Gig
I've got sympathy for all you professional musicians! I played the ideal gig tonight; it was in the old spare room around some tea cups. Don't mean any offense to anybody who makes a living playing, I wish I could do it but I don't have the talent and/or work ethic, drive, or make-up to do it. Here is a clip of one of the tunes we did a couple of times, Sitting on Top of the World, redux http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBGKUOMY9-4 Mike not-hassel Hoff On Oct 28, 2009, at 8:23 PM, mistertaterbug wrote: Howdy all. I *had* to post this to the group. It is a bit overboard, but not that out of line with a few of the gigs that one gets called on. It just goes to show the attitude that some people have regarding the job of musician. Of course, the language is lighthearted enough, but the underlying message is a bit ignorant of the trade... Come play our wedding for four hours for free, play music from every genre known to man (by request, probably) and if Granny wants to play the drums, then let her. You get a great meal and drink, provided you can consume it in some out-of-the-way place during the time when relatives are telling embarrassing stories about the bride and groom. You may give your CDs away for free to people who will lay them down on a coffee table or bathroom sink and leave them there. Tips? Really? There used to be a lot of conventions at the Opryland Hotel years ago, probably still are, that were somewhat like this. Bluegrass as dinner music. More than once we were told to turn down so that they could talk over catered suppers. Of course, there are a lot of great gigs that are nothing like the one described, but these really sting...Just imagine being asked to do whatever your occupation is under these terms. Sort of changes things, eh? Conventional Tater This ad actually appeared in a newspaper. Before you get ready to play this, read on... BAND WANTED Couple getting married in need of a band. Ideally, we'd like a 4-5 piece band that can play disco, funk, RB, Motown, rock, top-40, as well as some Jewish Ethnic songs like Hava Nagila. We'd need about four hours of music, from 6-10 PM with some breaks in between. We also need some light rock or jazz for the dinner music. Also: we need to use your microphone for toasts and speeches, etc. Pay: Unfortunately, we cannot afford to pay the band in money. But here's what we offer in return: (1) You and the band will be fed a great meal. (However, as we do need some quiet dinner music provided, you'll have to eat during the toasts.) (2) Each band member will get 1 free drink. (3) We will mention your band in the toasts, and you'll get a chance to pass out your business cards, and you can give away any band CDs you have. There will be some very high class people there, and you'll probably get some offers from this. (4) If you do well, we might hire you for a paid party later this fall (5) We will have a tip jar out for the band. (6) You'll get the great feeling of doing a good deed! One more thing: We do have a few family members that play drums and guitar, so we hope it'll be okay to let them sit in for a tune or two. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Your weekend music plans
I channeled my inner Monroe by playing a double header yesterday. Finally got my first hit of the fall season, bringing with it two RBI's, as well as a sac fly and run scored and an error free defensive double header at second base. We did get shellac'd by the Elizabeth Bombers and almost got in a big brawl when their ruthless basestealing with a 12 run rule brought about a few strategic hit by pitches. I told our pitcher that I did NOT have his back, haha! Came home and played Japanese Breakdown repeatedly on my Stella bowl back as well as working on When your Hair is Like the Snow out on the back porch. Go Rockies! Mike Pumpsie Green Hoffmann --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mike and David Radio Interview
thanks bulldog On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Terry Bullin wrote: I don't really have anything, but this bashing is getting old. I don't know Skaggs or Grier, but I've listened to their music. I take what I like and leave the rest, just like any other musician. I don't like everything Monroe did, (stop gasping Tater), but I like his style of mandolin playing. Thats what I want to steal, imitate, copy, or whatever you want to call it. I thought that was the point of this group with Tater as the teacher. As long as I'm here and interested in learning from him, then what he says goes. If he pisses me off, then its my job to shut up, learn from it and move on. That should be the case with any other teacher you pay to teach you. I think we as students/fans over idolize our heroes and forget they are people too. If I had had the chance to have been around Monroe and learn from him, I would have been scared to death and probably wouldn't have learned a thing. I was that way when I first met Tater, but I've realized he's a person just like me. He can just play the hell out of the mandolin and I can't...yet. (but I ain't dead yet, so I still got some timelol). So, like I said, I don't really have anything, but I would certainly enjoy reading some stories about Monroe and how you got to meet him, how much time you spent with him, what he was like as a teacher or whatever. It should be more enjoyable than the griping and bashing. I usually lurk, so this is worth way more than .02 Bulldog --- On Wed, 10/7/09, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Mike and David Radio Interview To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 11:00 AM Ready when you are, boy. What you got? Taterdog On Oct 7, 9:30 am, Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, enuf Grier and Skaggs. Lets get back on topic, lest we forget.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aWZcZ67ZQwfeature=channel --- On Wed, 10/7/09, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote: From: ljt lj...@intas.net.au Subject: Re: Mike and David Radio Interview To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 9:42 AM :) On Oct 8, 12:22 am, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote: I guess those poor dumb folks who fronted up with their money in hopes of learning something just have no dang reason to live ..what so ever. On Oct 8, 12:15 am, Will Dennis willard.den...@gmail.com wrote: Does Grier normally do workshops? Being a great player does not necesarrily equate to being a good teacher. (caveat before I get slammed - I'm not specifically talking about Grier here.) I am also in IT, and realize the challenges when someone wants to learn something in 5 minutes that took me a year of plugging away at it before I fully understood it. Sometimes you just have to learn by doing. I go to my share of workshops, and you gotta admit, some of the questions posed are kinda dumb sometimes... It's like the perennial what kind of pick do you use question - like that's the key or something. (Aside - I love the day-glo pick story in Richard Smith's Monroe book :) Anyways, unless there's a real track record of rudeness, I'd let it slide as a good person having a bad day. The man's musical ability certainly speaks for itself. Will --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Raymond Huffmaster and Avil Linton
I was wondering this myself. I sat next to two guys up at Lake Genero who played everything the Ray Brothers recorded in a row! On Oct 5, 2009, at 11:53 PM, Tud Jones wrote: Is Bernice Ray related to the Ray Bros who recorded for Victor in the 1930s? On Oct 5, 10:40 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I just got this from Raymond giving the rest of the names. Here comes... Chester and Dessie Linton had. Mavis Bernice Ray Daryl Beth Avil There you go. Taterbug On Sep 28, 7:21 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, Here's a couple videos of some Mississippi boys, Raymond Huffmaster and Avil Linton. They are two of the guys we looked up to back when mandolins and guitars got interesting to us way back when. You all pretty much know about Raymond by now. Avil comes from a musical family. His daddy, Chester Linton, was as good an oldtime fiddler as was in that part of the country, as was his brother Bernie(Bernice Ray). There was another brother, but I forget his name. They played pretty much anything with strings on it. The first tune, Tired and Sleepy is an old Mississippi tune from someplace and Lost Avil is just Avil's version of Lost Indian. Check the link if you're a mind to. Here 'tis... http://www.mississippichrissharp.com/index.htm Taterbug --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Family Bands
I hate to sound like a northerner, but I don't want to stereotype all family bands as creepy, although I am sure the dynamic in some is uncomfortable. I think being educated in business, music, geography, and performance could be a better education than some schools provide for kids. True, I am sure some parents push their kids a little too hard, but I don't think that there is an indentured servitude-type relationship in any of these bands. There was plenty of stuff I didn't want to do as a youngster, but my parents made me do it. Think back to your own relationship with your parents, now imagine that was put on display as a part of an act. You would probably criticize your own family as creepy! Let's bring back the positive to Taterville? You all see the way Eli Manning is playing this year? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Holland Honey Eaters
Love how that fiddler just kicks the papers as they fall! On Oct 1, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Linda wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-_GvVyYCg0NR=1 Stan Gottschalk, his wife Rebecca with Steve and Jane Ray. All live in Tasmania, Stan originally from USA. 'On The Air: The Story of Early Country Radio' , a simulated early radio program called... 'Collins Chevrolet Southern Melody Hour' over station WYOY in 1933. There are several other segments one can find by searching you tube. Their show lasts about 2 hours, first hour is a slide show with musical interludes, re the history of radio, then the On the Air segment. All well researched, all nicely done. Enjoy and be sure and check out the others too. linda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Haggard at the Ryman
I gotta give a plug to Shotgun Party. They have an on and off Wednesday happy hour at the Continental. They are all really nice folks playing honky tonk type Texican and jazz music. Jenny Parrot really belts it out. On Sep 26, 2009, at 6:06 PM, mistertaterbug wrote: Nelson, Go check out some Dale Watson if you want honky tonk. He'd be a good one to add to that list. I followed Dennis Crouch and Flux to the Continental Club in August to see the guy and he can put it out there. Taterbug On Sep 23, 9:31 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: I went to see Merle Haggard at the Ryman last night. At 72 and recovering from cancer, he still stood up for an hour and a half and sang, played the Tele and fiddle. It was a dang good show. An interesting couple of notes: Hag has signed a duo called the Malpass Brothers (http://www.malpassbrothers.com/blog/index.php/category/merle-haggard-tour/ ) who wear Pompadour hair styles and old style suits. They sing the old honky tonk / Bakersfield stuff like Merle, Faron Young, etc. They were great. A self described coonass, whose name I can't remember shredded Can't You Hear Me Calling on the Telecaster. It was a cajuney rockabilly take on it that was something else. Nelson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Skaggs CD
Well this thread has made me realize how useful this forum can be in some ways. I had a thread closed down on me on the cafe because I mentioned that maybe Monroe doesn't deserve so much credit for starting bluegrass when people were playing a whole lot of commercial, blues influenced country music before he came along. He definitely did something amazing with the music and his influence is priceless, but he didn't pick up clay and shape the first bluegrass record where nothing existed before. Now, I don't want to talk about this, I just want to relate how upset I was when the thread was locked after this comment and I was sent a private message asking me to play nice. This tater forum is a constant source for inspiration, discussion, opinion, and much more, including non work-safe links if you are so inclined *G* I don't spend nearly the time I should listening to modern bluegrass, but Ricky always surprises me with his talent and listenability, it would be nice if he felt so strongly about his influence on bluegrass music and mandolin playing to contribute to a Monroe mandolin camp, and I hate hearing about other's religions. I don't know enough about the subject to say anything else. Hoffy On Sep 26, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Mike Romkey wrote: I'd just like to say for the record that I probably do, in fact, need a spanking from the aforementioned naughty lady. (g) I was joking about Ricky in the buck comment. I was tipping my hat to him before that in with the Jack White video link. I haven't bought the new CD but I plan to. I agree with everything the Master Tater said. We all have our pluses and minuses. Just like Mr. Monroe. I'll try to be more polite, but I don't know how to tippy toe. I think one of the weakness of a certain other mandolin site where a lot of us spend time is that the moderators pounce if stray from the realms of sweetness and light. Express an opinion about Gibson pricing and quality sometime and see what happens. (g) (Disclaimer: I own, and love, my Gibson Adam Steffy F-5.) Peace to Nelson. I didn't mean to offend. I was gonna say earlier, but didn't want to stir the pot, that despite what you might say about Mr. Skaggs looking for commercial veins to mine, I give him credit for taking risks to provide for his family. I don't have a list of that small number of people you can say make a decent living playing bluegrass, but Mr. Skaggs has to be near the top when it comes to commercial, financial success. Of course, that doesn't excuse pride, aloofness or rudeness. And as a fan, in my humble opinion nothing excuses Superfreak, and I'm not anything like a bluegrass hardcore. Sometimes he tries too hard for that middle-of-the-road commercial audience, in this critic's opinion. (Mr. Compton's choice of material, however, I have always found to be impeccably tasty!) The comment of MC's that intrigues me the most, though, is this: I'd like to have as strong a contact with the driving force as he does. I like to discuss that one with you, Boss. Hoping for peace and harmony here and in the Middle East, Mike Whip Me, Beat Me, Call Me Marge Romkey On Sep 26, 2009, at 4:58 PM, mistertaterbug wrote: Nelson, I think a lot of this is being done in fun, but some is a thin veil to a more serious issue, that being what I'd guess to be a growing intolerance for Ricky's attitude. Instiga-tater On Sep 23, 9:08 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Some of the nastiness in this thread makes me think some of us need to contact that BDSM lady for a spanking or two! On Sep 23, 8:28 am, Mike Romkey rom...@qconline.com wrote: And you thought Skaggs knew now to turn a buck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Seeking a friend?
Womanizing may help with the creative process? On Sep 20, 2009, at 6:49 PM, mistertaterbug wrote: Depends on what you're practicing, I reckon. G Spectater On Sep 20, 4:30 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: But that would put me off my practice routine 2009/9/20, Ben Arnold carrelkiely26...@gmail.com: New level of dating networks: now you can find a friend in YOUR CITY. Really! Just point a map! millions of members in the network! TONNS of photos and videos from other members. Find girls and boys for flirting, for sex or just for communication. Free registration. http://go2-url.com/aerndu -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo mĂłvil --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RA Music
I have always been interested on where strings want to go. I am by no means the best tuner, but I enjoy playing with the same group of people (when I can) over the course of a couple of days and always tuning to one arbitrary instrument that sounds reasonable enough to tune too. Depending on the weather we are high or low, but we are always in tune. Of course when a jam comes along where everyone agrees to tune to a tuner, piano, or harp that is in a steady tuning we will all laugh before we get there due to the lengths we have strayed. This is by no means any better than tuning to something that is pitched at 440, but from experience I can guess that the world doesn't always vibrate at 440. mike On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:08 PM, Mike Hedding wrote: My brother showed me this today: http://ramusic.com/ Basically this guy has a theory that A=440 was a man made decision about where to tune to and he has this theory that A=424 is actually the frequency where nature is in tune with. He bases his theory on some mathematical calculations. He suggests that music may be more enjoyable and bring about deeper feelings from your body if you're tuned to 424 rather than 440. There's a video on his site you can watch about it. My brother and I both tuned down to 424 (slightly less than a half step flat) and jammed for a little today and it did sound nice... did it sound noticeably better? I can't really say it did. Plus for me it was hard to judge it objectively because I had just watched the video and it put suggestions into my head that 424 was more in tune with nature than 440. Definitely interesting whether you buy into it or not. Anyone else heard of this or tried it? Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: More Youtube
Ever since I finally bought a White Stripes album and got hooked on it I have had no reason to believe other than that Jack White is an upstanding guy. He sure can sing, and he totally reps the old-time country music. The guy also knows how to gather a band. I was downloading piano versions of Solace (A Mexican Serenade) today after completely giving up hope on finding anything other than a guitar or piano play it when I found this gem. There couldn't be more mandolins without being ridiculous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92TOnbFGQ1o Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Personal YouTube Videos
Laphroaig, Mossy! Oh, is that why tater referred to himself as peaty? It all comes full circle, I thought that was a peaty-ato type of thing, but it is a peat-type of thing. Anyhow, that is some tasty whiskey! I myself, enjoy the good stuff whenever I can, but I always have a bottle of Canadian, American-style whiskey around, just about 7 and a half years old. You know the type, it's red. On Apr 23, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Steve Cantrell wrote: Awesome, Trey. Way to stick to it. From: Trey Young email_t...@yahoo.com To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:12:33 AM Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos I had a bottle of Laphroaig last year, didn't care for it much at first, but me not being a quitter I kept on drinking it and about 3/4 of the way through I found a taste for it. From: Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:11:02 AM Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos Laphroaig is excellent, but at heart I'm a Johnny Walker Gold Label man. That's the stuff. From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:08:29 AM Subject: Re: Personal YouTube Videos Robin, Would that be high test or ethel? For bourbon it's got to be mid-grade Pappy VanWinkle. I got a bottle of Laphroaig from the FedEx man yesterday. Compliments of Outlier mandolins and Mistah Ben Pearce. Ya'll git a little water glass and come on... Peaty On Apr 22, 3:15 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: Now what's wrong with a good sniff of the gas tank of yer truck... On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote: Blanton's is in yet another financial category. Woodford Reserve is really good, but it's a little sweet for my regular taste. M On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.comwrote: Ah Woodford Reserve, delicious! Blanton's, bulleit and Elijah Craig. . On Apr 22, 10:32 am, sgarrity shaungarr...@hotmail.com wrote: Woodford Reserve is another good bourbon and my current favorite. I'm about to head out on vacation but maybe when I get back I'll crack open the bottle of JW Blue and record the Teetotallers (aka, Temperance) Reel. The mandolin I'm playing is a Kimble A-0. Although it's outfitted like an A4. Waverly tuners, James TP, triple binding. I've had it for a few months and just got it back from a fresh set up by Will. It's a really cool mandolin with its own sound. The Red Diamond A5 that's in a couple of my videos was a trade that I got last summer. I traded it off for a guitar last fall because I already had my ff hole bases covered with my Heiden A5. I'm down to the Heiden and Kimble and that should hold me for a while!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Redneck Haiku
Two-for-four today It sure was nice to play ball Even though we lost. On Apr 5, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Don Grieser wrote: Hope springs eternal I know that this is the year Chicago Cubs On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:15 PM, mark.se...@gmail.com wrote: Seven dollar beer Forty-two dollar tickets It's opening day Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:11:28 To: Taterbugmandotaterbugmando@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Redneck Haiku I was inspired at my little girl's tee ball game today.. Combover, popcorn Perfumes clashing, babies crying Tee ball day today On Apr 3, 7:13 am, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: A poor cross eyed boy Becomes a visonary WSM On Apr 2, 11:24 pm, Don Grieser adobeinthepi...@gmail.com wrote: Jerusalem Ridge Above a lonely graveyard Where Bill Monroe lays On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: The road winds around Brother Charlie's former home Jerusalem Ridge On Apr 2, 3:09 pm, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote: Went to play baseball But instead played my banjo What would you exchange? On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Don Grieser wrote: Three inch sheet rock screws Replace rusting baling wire But not the duct tape On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote: Whoops, sent the first draft on accident. I need to learn how to count. Tobacco spit cup Sittin in my cup holder Not Dr. Pepper :) On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote: Copenhagen spit cup Sittin in my cup holder Not Dr. Pepper On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Lost Haiku Mojo? Let's keep this thing a going Much more fun than work On Mar 31, 10:06 pm, Nelson nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Maybe a Japanese music form? I have been interested in Asian music for a while. I read somewhere that most of it is pentatonic. On Mar 31, 9:41 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if there is a musical form that rivals this haiku verse? I mean, is there a 5-7-5 form in music? What would it be? I have music laying around here in all sorts of odd meters already. How would we count it? Tater On Mar 31, 9:36 pm, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: Dammit to hell, Shaun Took the wind out of our sails Now it's back to work Taterbug On Mar 31, 2:56 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: taterbug mando mandolin players sharing nonsense and insight On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Fred fkel...@scicable.net wrote: My work here is done... Steve Cantrell wrote: Throw up funnel cake just made me laugh audibly, Fred. *From:* Fred fkel...@scicable.net *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:01:16 PM *Subject:* Re: Redneck Haiku Your latest reminded me of something... Festival groupie Pick all night under the stars Throw up funnel cake mistertaterbug wrote: George Jones on the road Headed to the liquor store Lawnmower goes slow Bluegrass festival Photo opportunity Bill says, You Back Up Help...I can't stop... Tater- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Redneck Haiku
I'll get the truck keys My shot gun is in the rack Let's go spot some deer Sadly, this was what parties deteriorated to often when I was growing up in a deer-heavy part of NJ. I never went out in the truck, but would eat what was gotten. One time, a cop showed up at a party which some guys had left to go spotting, and returned with a deer which was hanging around back. The cop lined everyone up and looked for bloody hands! Lancaster tobacco the cadillac of all chew no stems, only leaf My friend drove his truck Right across a frozen lake And cashed through a fence This is why I don't live where I grew up! Catfish on my line While picking on my banjo What do I do now?!?! On Mar 31, 2009, at 9:15 AM, nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Tater, The best laugh I have had in a while Growing up in a small, northern Alabama white trash town gives some of these special meaning for me! Nelson On Tue 03/31/09 8:40 AM , mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com sent: Just got this yesterday from Joe Newberry's desk. If you folks are into Japanese Haiku poetry, it may be of interest. Of course, these have a more southern flair... Taterbug Damn, in that tube-top You make me almost forget That you're my cousin. Naked in repose, Silvery silhouette girls Adorn my mudflaps. A painful sadness. Can't fit big screen TV through Double-wide's front door. In WalMart toy aisle, Wailing boy wants wrestling doll. Mama whups his ass. Unemployment's out,. Hey, maybe I can get on Disability. Distant siren screams. Dumb-ass Verne's been playing with Gasoline again. Flashlights pierce darkness. No nightcrawlers to be found. Guess we'll gig some frogs. Joyous, playful, bright Trailer park girl rolls in puddle Of old motor oil. Seeking solitude, Carl's ex-wife Tammy files for Restraining order. I curse the rainbow Emblazoned upon his hood. God damn Jeff Gordon. Tonight we hunger. Grandma sent grocery money To Jimmy Swaggart. Set the VCR: Dukes of Hazzard Marathon At 9 O'Clock. White noise, buzzing static. Call Earl. Satellite dish needs new descrambler. Sixty-five dollars And cyclone fence keeps me from My El Camino. In early morning mist, Mama searches Circle K for Moon Pies and Red Man. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Redneck Haiku
Damn Cracker Barrel Why are you so good coming and so mean going? On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:23 AM, 14strings wrote: Biscuits and Gravy Where is Cracker Barrel? Perry on Turnpike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need A Band Name
Remove all plants On Mar 31, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Fred wrote: This is always a fun thing to do... Waxing The Dolphin Sailing The Open C's Gladly The Cross-Eyed Bear Lucy In Disguise Three Bedroom Ramblers (actual band name--one-off recording though) Augmented Thirds nelsonpeddyco...@knology.net wrote: Gobsmacked (is this one already taken?) Outhouse Ramblers Tater's Tots White Trash Compactor (inspired by Tractor) The Dreadful Snakes (someone might have already suggested this one) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need A Band Name
Keep off the grass = Great Dave Van Ronk and the Hudson Dusters album! On Mar 31, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Don Grieser wrote: Keep Off The Grass Gas Food Lodging The Presbyterian Snakehandlers Dreadful Great On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Fred fkel...@scicable.net wrote: well then, what about... T.S. AARP? sgarrity wrote: Isn't this fun?? LOL There are some good ones here! We live in the Norfolk/Virginia Beach area and the other two members are retired. I'm the young'n of the trio at 30 y/o and do IT sales for a living --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Fiddle and Mandolin
I play a little fiddle sometimes and find that I can play much better when I am playing with fiddlers I really enjoy watching and listening to. Sounds sort of simple, but some fiddlers are much easier to play with then others. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Italian Mandolin
Actually, listening to this album the thought of Frank came to mind a few times. When this tune in particular picks up steam it sounds somewhat like a place where Frank may have gone to get something like Mexican Stomp. Ah, motivation! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Italian Mandolin
Found this record called The Music of Gay Italy - Italian Mandolin in a Salvation Army this weekend. I thought it would be cheese, but didn't know it would be cheese of this quality. I uploaded a track from it tonight. http://cdn2.libsyn.com/samjessin/Trieste_Waltz.m4a?nvb=20090323025151nva=20090324030151t=00b07eb58622f7c4a25d3 Mike Hoff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Linthead Stomp - the book
Ohhh, the Dixon BrothersThe Intoxicated Rat. Those recordings would be awesome to hear! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Samuel Bayard Books on Ebay
Wow - Dance to the fiddle, march to the fife. They had that at the UMass library when I was just learning. I used to try to play the tunes from it along with recordings. I remember learning that Gotta Quit Kicking my Dog Around was McKinley's (I think) campaign song! Shame they are so expensive! On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:57 PM, mistertaterbug wrote: Howdy. I don't know if you folks know about Samuel P. Bayard and his contribution to the preservation of stringband/fiddle music. Mr. Bayard was a musicologist from Pennsylvania and put out a couple very popular and increasingly rare books primarily on fiddle tunes from that area. There are both on Ebay right now. The smaller is titled Hill Country Tunes. The link is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:ITitem=250381106589 This little book is a gem. I bought a number of these for around $25 to give away, but they aren't around for that anymore. Under $100 is a bargain anymore. The other Bayard book is titled Dance to the Fiddle, March to the Fife. This is the book John Hartford got Squirrels Hunters from. Here is a link to this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/Dance-to-the-Fiddle-March-to-the-Fife-Folk-Tunes-in-PA_W0QQitemZ120383351193QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Nonfiction_Book?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116 There are two copies of Dance... but this one is the cheaper of the two. The other is listed at a mere $385. I found a copy a few years ago for $50 and seems to me brother Don Grieser got one a few weeks later for about $65. I have not seen another copy for under $125 since. I have seen them listed as much as $800. Just thought I'd put this out there. Oh, I am watching the auction for the smaller book so be forewarned. G Tater --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yank and Frank
Did you steal it? I didn't steal it. (From the other video about the pig) On Mar 5, 2009, at 12:12 AM, Don Grieser wrote: Anybody don't like the blues, they got a hole in their soul. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: So far, so good... Taterboy On Mar 4, 3:34 pm, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote: This is a two part post. I just youtubed mandolin and sorted for added most recently and found this video added a few moments ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iOAkZ9s3fw Also, I was thinking about Frank Wakefield today so I was reading his myspace page. He just came out with a new record on Patuxent (his last on this album, Don't Lie to Me, was amazing) called Ownself Blues. On this new record Michael Cleveland plays the fiddle, Audie Blaylock the guitar. I will give a little review when I get it in the mail, but I am biased! There is also a tune dedicated to Bill somebody. Mike H --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yank and Frank
This method of searching for videos pays off. I wonder what city this is. The right hand control is precise. Also, try to find a smiley face with its tongue sticking out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkUFDQwNnRQ On Mar 5, 2009, at 12:12 AM, Don Grieser wrote: Anybody don't like the blues, they got a hole in their soul. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:48 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote: So far, so good... Taterboy On Mar 4, 3:34 pm, Mike Hoffmann mikehoffma...@gmail.com wrote: This is a two part post. I just youtubed mandolin and sorted for added most recently and found this video added a few moments ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iOAkZ9s3fw Also, I was thinking about Frank Wakefield today so I was reading his myspace page. He just came out with a new record on Patuxent (his last on this album, Don't Lie to Me, was amazing) called Ownself Blues. On this new record Michael Cleveland plays the fiddle, Audie Blaylock the guitar. I will give a little review when I get it in the mail, but I am biased! There is also a tune dedicated to Bill somebody. Mike H --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mando Camp North
I met Alan Kaufman at a party last weekend, he was talking it up. Sadly this falls into the category of I would love to go but can't afford it right now. He mentioned a scholarship which I will look into. Have fun up there in Fitchburg, tater. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mobile Website Geekdom
I really like the way that you all out there in Wisconsin just shrugged off that alarm and the billowing of the tent behind you. I also really liked the song, it was snappy! Mike H --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: regionalism (long-winded and rambling)
Tater tater tater tater tate- Your post was about ethnic groups and then there was a sentence about Chicago. I drank a cup of coffee and read a big chunk of a book (Making the second ghetto - race and housing in chicago 1940-1960) that I really should have already finished yesterday before working on music. The chapter I left half finished was on white ethnic neighborhoods in Chicago. Then the coffee actually started working and I picked up my mandolin and was playing and listening to stuff on my computer whence I should have been doing homwork. That lead to reading this mailing list and thus your post, reminding me about white ethnic groups and Chicago and that I should be reading that book. I guess I should have just left the response in my head! Sorry for leading us off track. On another note, I was once told that NJ was a hotbed of classical banjo activity. I also just read an account of a North Pole expedition that mentioned banjos AND accordions playing home sweet home while in the arctic. I think banjos were everywhere. Fred Van Eps and Vess Ossman both lived here and played extensively in Asbury Park, but certainly not old-time music. My dad always calls our local area banjo land because he gets frustrated at the inability to think liberally at school board meetings and such. I always get mad and remind him that it takes a large mind to play a banjo. The banjo gets pigeonholed as a rural, southern thing. Even a lot of the minstrel stuff was written in NYC, and it certainly romanticized the south. There is something about fantasizing about the South for us Northerners. Even Dixie was written up North. Maybe that is why old-time music is so popular up North in New England, MN, and Wisconsin specifically. It's cold and in the south it is so warm. I get jealous when I listen to Charlie McCoy sing, in the wintertime I'm doing mighty well, but in the summertime its a burning hell because in the wintertime here it is cold! On a side note, I am watching Dora the Explorer with my niece right now and a flower is lost in the snow and they are trying to find their way back to warmer climates. Perhaps that is the same as us Northern flowers listening mournfully to southbound trains. Also, in the background I could swear they keep playing little brown jug. need to organize my thoughts better Mike H --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Personal YouTube Videos
Don - that stuff is great and your mandolin sounds great. I really like the musty diller. Is he related to Dwight? I keep trying to get at dusty miller but something in me (maybe the black coffee and little twist of golden blend) made me think about Frank this morning and I pulled an oldie out after giving up on DM. So here is a version of Catnip. Mike baseball season is almost here Hoffmann http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3of4a4BuYs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: regionalism (long-winded and rambling)
Nelson - I disagree, I think that there are a ton of young people playing music today and writing original music. Tater- you just reminded me. I really should be reading Making the second ghetto instead of playing mandolin. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Personal YouTube Videos
Might be an improvement on my face! I am going to record something tomorrow when the cows come home. I think we should get this going! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Monroe Camp 2009
Man, you all who can get to this are lucky! This is a great, affordable event and I wish I could make it this year but I can't swing it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Building a repertoire
nelson, can you say same page!ha! Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Something to think about...
Last time a group of us played in the Philly train station we made over $250 in three hours. Honestly though, perhaps we were trying to engage people and singing and being goofy. Sometimes, with busking, it is all luck. No offense to Mr. Bell, but I would be much more apt to stop and listen to a group playing R B on pails and a little practice amp or a string band than to a classical violinist - maybe that has as much to do with it as perception of WHO is doing the playing. Also, since he was trying to see how many people WOULDN't Stop and the average busker is trying to see how many people will stop maybe people felt that they shouldn't stop. My crumpled up dollar. Mike H PS - the best part of the last time we busked was a crumpled up note - it said Next time play the Slurf Song by the Holy Modal Rounders which is a song that we actually had played at a point when whoever left the note wasn't around! On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 9:41 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: This was sent to me today. I think it is worth passing along. Tater A Violinist in the Metro A man sat at a metro station in Washington DC and started to play the violin; it was a cold January morning.. He played six Bach pieces for about 45 minutes. During that time, since it was rush hour, it was calculated that thousands of people went through the station, most of them on their way to work. Three minutes went by and a middle aged man noticed there was musician playing. He slowed his pace and stopped for a few seconds and then hurried on to meet his schedule. A minute later, the violinist received his first dollar tip: a woman threw the money in the till and without stopping continued to walk. A few minutes later, someone leaned against the wall to listen to him, but the man looked at his watch and started to walk again.. Clearly he was late for work. The one who paid the most attention was a 3 year old boy. His mother tagged him along, hurried but the kid stopped to look at the violinist. Finally the mother pushed hard and the child continued to walk turning his head all the time. This action was repeated by several other children. All the parents, without exception, forced them to move on. In the 45 minutes the musician played, only 6 people stopped and stayed for a while. About 20 gave him money but continued to walk their normal pace. He collected $32. When he finished playing and silence took over, no one noticed it. No one applauded, nor was there any recognition. No one knew this but the violinist was Joshua Bell, one of the best musicians in the world. He played one of the most intricate pieces ever written with a violin worth 3.5 million dollars. Two days before his playing in the subway, Joshua Bell sold out at a theater in Boston and the seats averaged $100. This is a real story. Joshua Bell playing incognito in the metro station was organized by the Washington Post as part of a social experiment about perception, taste and priorities of people. The outlines were: In a commonplace environment at an inappropriate hour: Do we perceive beauty? Do we stop to appreciate it? Do we recognize the talent in an unexpected context? One of the possible conclusions from this experience could be: If we do not have a moment to stop and listen to one of the best musicians in the world playing the best music ever written, how many other things are we missing? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Tobacco Tags
there was a man, from aberdeen, who owned a great big jersey cow.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: more Davy Graham
A - ha! I actually really like the DADEAD guitar tuning and after seeing that joke about DEAD tuning on a mandolin it might actually work on a mando! Hmm, now I need some free time. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: All-Star Jam Series
stillwater, OK home of Otto Gray and his Oklahoma Cowboys On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:21 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote: This just in... On Thursday, January 8, the Pickin' A Bluegrass All-Star Jam is coming to Raleigh. (I am very excited to be part of this lineup…) The lineup for this one-night only concert reads like a Who's Who of bluegrass musicians, featuring almost 20 multi-award winning artists, including Rob McCoury, Terry Baucom, Jason Carter, Michael Cleveland, Josh Williams, Dale Ann Bradley, Steve Gulley, Kim Fox, Rob Ickes, Missy Raines, Alan Bibey, Mike Compton, Phil Leadbetter, Kenny Amanda Smith, Tim Stafford, and Mike Bub. These incredible musicians will take the stage together in a song-circle format hosted by Cindy Baucom, the 2005 IBMA Broadcaster of the Year for the nationally syndicated radio show Knee Deep in Bluegrass. Please join us for an unforgettable night showcasing some of the best in bluegrass music! The show starts at 8 p.m. at the Meymandi Concert Hall at the Progress Energy Center for the Performing Arts in downtown Raleigh. Tickets range from $20-$30 for PineCone members or $25-$35 for the general public. You can order tickets by calling the PineCone box office at 919-664-8302 (tickets ordered through the PineCone box office are subject to a $5 per order handling fee). You can also order tickets at www.ticketmaster.com. Thank you, and we hope to see you there! The other dates in the series can be found on my online calendar. They are in Bristol, VA, Kutztown, PA, Athens, GA, and Stillwater, OK. I reckon the other shows will have similar ticket prices, times and personnel. I don't have the venue info yet, but will post it when it comes in. Yee Haa... Tater --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: First Recorded Mandolinist
I believe it is one of Earl Johnson's early groups. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Sally and Nelson Peddycoart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.1001tunes.com/earlyfiddlers.htm -Original Message- *From:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Robin Gravina *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:25 AM *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: First Recorded Mandolinist excellent site recommendation. I have downloaded my 30 for today, including a song by the Bogtrotters, which reminds me that I used to have a record by them which is no longer with me. Anyone know anything about them? They are one of the rougher sounding groups I have heard, but have a load of energy and some great songs. Robin On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Sally and Nelson Peddycoart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. That is a cool site. I had bought Early Mandolin Classics this morning and a couple of other CDs…1 of a mix of old stuff and 2 or 3 Skillet Licker discs. Thou shalt have no other Gid before him. -Original Message- *From:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hoffmann *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:22 AM *To:* taterbugmando@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: First Recorded Mandolinist www.juneberry78s.com has most of this stuff on it for free, that is where I got most of it. Also if you sign up for emusic you can get stuff off of the document records releases for most of these bands. Their music can be ordered from Venerable Music also. Rounders Early Mandolin Classics is a good bet, but there is really only one track from each group. Gid is my co-pilot. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Re: Dream team
Charlie Poole, Roy Harvey, and Posey Rorer! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: technical difficulties
conference recorder! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Question for Tater...
Whatever you do, your accesibility is priceless. If I ever had the time or energy to sit down with a Monroe tune, I know that I could bounce some things off of you and get an informed and entertaining answer. I think that knowing that I would have to pick a tune and learn it to an extent on my own before asking you about it is also much more beneficial than a piece of paper that I could attempt to learn from. Not to say that a book of 750 Monroe transcriptions would not be a timeless contribution to the mandolin world, but the way you approach teaching the style using the community, just in terms of the web lessons and mailing list, is a mighty contribution in its self. Just my 15 cents (inflation) Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---