On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:15:24 +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote:
> When you give the server a "EHLO" command, it should have a "STARTTLS"
> item somewhere in the list of things it pretends to support. If not,
> your SMTP server simply doesn't support this feature, and you'll have
> to directly connect t
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:41:17 -0500, Paul Van Noord wrote:
> http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=obnoxious
>
> --
> Paul
What an original and apt signature you have taken for yourself, Paul!
I am impressed by the depth of your self-analysis. Keep up the good
work.
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:15:24 +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote:
> On 2005-02-15 at 20:31:41 Avi Yashar wrote:
>
> > Same here. "Secure to regular port" never worked for me.
>
> This could be a problem with your mail server, or just the way it is
> configured. The easiest way to check this out is to t
On Wednesday, February 16, 2005, 00:09, Stefan Dorscht wrote:
> Seems to be a bug in my brain...
:-)
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Hello Marcus Ohlström,
on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 at you wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 17:07, Stefan Dorscht wrote:
>> I've been reading the new mail here in the list using "Control + ->".
>> The option "View Threads by References" is activated, but when I was
>> reading the last u
On 2/15/2005 Avi Yashar wrote:
AY> And my point was only that you asked a general question that you could
AY> have answered for yourself if you only looked at some of the earlier
AY> correspondence on this thread - a quite substantial amount.
Too bad you do not apply this principle to your own act
Hello Dwight,
A reminder of what Dwight A Corrin on TBBETA typed on:
15 February 2005 at 22:49:36 GMT +0100
DAC> Trousers are (Scottish) Gaelic
I know, my mate Donald used to wear them.
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On 2005-02-15 at 20:31:41 Avi Yashar wrote:
> Same here. "Secure to regular port" never worked for me.
This could be a problem with your mail server, or just the way it is
configured. The easiest way to check this out is to telnet directly
to its port 25:
client> telnet tensor.xs4all.nl 25
[...
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 2:39:21 PM, Tony Boom wrote:
> Click is an English word, clique looks French to me and I 'ain't
> French.
click is either a verb or a sound (less than a boom), clique is a noun
signifying a small exclusive group of friends or associates.
Trousers are (Scottish) Gae
Hello Tony!
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 3:33 PM, you wrote:
MB>> Cryptoquote of the day, above. ;)
> Telling me, I didn't understand a word of it (:
It's the British Victorian poet Wordsworth, his lyric on the French
Revolution. Cat was a radical in his youth. (;
A new day dawns with Tony,
Hello Mary,
A reminder of what Mary Bull on TBBETA typed on:
15 February 2005 at 22:30:43 GMT +0100
MB> Cryptoquote of the day, above. ;)
Telling me, I didn't understand a word of it (:
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Hello Tony!
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 3:16 PM, you wrote:
> And on a more exciting note, we might be going camping tomorrow if
> the Sun is still shining.
Yay! Camping in a caravan, with a Toshiba Laptop along, running The
Bat! beta v. 12 on Linux Gentoo, and keeping up with the vagaries of
Hello Mary,
A reminder of what Mary Bull on TBBETA typed on:
15 February 2005 at 22:05:26 GMT +0100
MB> Oh, Tony, truly, I was only teasing you. It's just my American sense
MB> of humor--and Tim also spelled it "click" ahead of you.
I know, that's the trouble with you Americans, Friends '
Hello Tim,
A reminder of what Tim Casten on TBBETA typed on:
15 February 2005 at 21:57:45 GMT +0100
TC> Your right how about now?
It OK now, still got almost 2 hours till you write the last one though :)
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Hello Tony!
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 2:39 PM, you wrote:
< ... >
LOL
> Please, stop correcting me, I'm 48 not 8 and I don't give a damn how to spell
> anything as long as people understand what I'm talking about. Which most
> don't
> anyway. Click is an English word, clique looks Frenc
Hello Tony,
Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 12:50:00 PM, you wrote:
> I think your clock is wrong? I've got a message from you that you don't write
> for another 2 hours.
Your right how about now?
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Hello Tim,
A reminder of what Tim Casten on TBBETA typed on:
15 February 2005 at 20:29:33 GMT +0100
TC> Hello Tony,
TC> Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 10:05:06 AM, you wrote:
I think your clock is wrong? I've got a message from you that you don't write
for another 2 hours.
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Best regard
Hello Mary,
A reminder of what Mary Bull on TBBETA typed on:
15 February 2005 at 21:01:12 GMT +0100
MB> Clique--it's spelled "clique"
School teachers, this list is full of them. You'll be telling me I spell colour
wrong next.
I walk on a Pavement, my car has a Boot and Hoods are things c
Hello David,
Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 12:55:10 PM, you wrote:
D> You might be right. Being that it's not his fault though, I don't
D> think any mods or anything should bug him about it when they do
D> slip though. One alternative is to set up a remailer though. He
D> sends a message containing
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 22:10:51 +0200, Avi Yashar wrote:
>> One alternative is to set up a remailer though. He sends a
>> message containing his message to a remailer and the remailer sends it
>> on sans the appended company sig.
AY> I believe that this is essentially the service that Allie is
A
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:55:10 -0500, David Calvarese wrote:
> You might be right. Being that it's not his fault though, I don't
> think any mods or anything should bug him about it when they do slip
> though.
David, I am not particularly stressed about this. And I don't like to
waste much time
Hello Tony!
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 1:46 PM, you wrote:
> I seem to be the only one who has a sense of humour on here so I'm
> in a click of my own (:
Clique--it's spelled "clique" IIRC. hehehe
< clicking away, because I'm a mouse person (or is that mousy?) :) >
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Mary
Th
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 21:44:19 +0200, Avi Yashar wrote:
>> Think we should move this to one of the other lists since this doesn't
>> really concern any Beta version?
AY> Maybe. But then why stop a process where someone is getting immediate
AY> help for a problem that indirectly affects everyone
Hello Tim,
A reminder of what Tim Casten on TBBETA typed on:
15 February 2005 at 20:29:33 GMT +0100
TC> Stuart's Signature line fiasco!
Don't think I caught that thread, have to look through the archives... NOT :)
TC> I guess belonging to the elite Rit Lab "click" does have its bennies,
TC
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:33:34 -0500, David Calvarese wrote:
> Think we should move this to one of the other lists since this doesn't
> really concern any Beta version?
Maybe. But then why stop a process where someone is getting immediate
help for a problem that indirectly affects everyone on this
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 21:31:41 +0200, Avi Yashar wrote:
>> SH>> OK. I've done that. The transport settings in TB! can be seen in the
>> SH>> attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing
>> SH>> (I still can't connect although I can ping the server).
>>
>> JS> Actually S
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:21:46 -0500, David Calvarese wrote:
> SH>> OK. I've done that. The transport settings in TB! can be seen in the
> SH>> attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing
> SH>> (I still can't connect although I can ping the server).
>
> JS> Actually Stua
Hello Tony,
Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 10:05:06 AM, you wrote:
> Good, I wasn't trying to make you feel bad. If any moderator want's to comment
> on my offers of help then I'll take it seriously. But your not a moderator,
> your just a common or garden user like me.
It appears the moderators ha
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 11:10:44 -0800, John Sherman wrote:
SH>> OK. I've done that. The transport settings in TB! can be seen in the
SH>> attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing
SH>> (I still can't connect although I can ping the server).
JS> Actually Stuart, the SM
Hello Stuart,
Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 6:45:49 AM, you wrote:
SH> OK. I've done that. The transport settings in TB! can be seen in the
SH> attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing
SH> (I still can't connect although I can ping the server).
Actually Stuart, the S
Hello Stuart,
A reminder of what Stuart Hemming on TBBETA typed on:
15 February 2005 at 18:38:16 GMT +0100
SH> PM? shemming at estatecomputers dot com
I already did half hour ago, did you not get it?
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Hello Avi,
A reminder of what Avi Yashar on TBBETA typed on:
15 February 2005 at 18:37:24 GMT +0100
AY> Well, that is not exactly what I wrote. What I wrote was:
I know what you wrote and I quoted EXACTLY what I needed to make my point.
Wouldn't want to get trouted for over quoting now wou
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TB> Well I would offer to help but I don't want to be trouted.
PM? shemming at estatecomputers dot com
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:00:07 +, Tony Boom wrote:
> A reminder of what Avi Yashar on TBBETA typed on:
> 15 February 2005 at 17:41:07 GMT +0100
>
> AY> After all, I wouldn't want you to be the first one to get trouted on this
> AY> heretofore trout-free day.
Well, that is not exactly what I
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 17:07, Stefan Dorscht wrote:
> I've been reading the new mail here in the list using "Control + ->".
> The option "View Threads by References" is activated, but when I was
> reading the last unread mail, the Thread-view changed.
I don't get it, what has changed? Si
Hi Alexander S. Kunz,
On 15/02/2005 11:39 AM, you wrote:
> What difference would it make? SMTP talks to another SMTP on port 25, just
> like TB talks to an SMTP on port 25.
It wouldn't make any difference.
Stuart is likely within an intranet that allows outbound connections
only via the web on
Hello Leif Gregory & everyone else,
on 15-Feb-2005 at 18:03 you (Leif Gregory) wrote:
A>> In a LAN with a Domain Controller (or something) the DNS server
A>> will be local machine.
> Hmmm. Rereading your post, I'm wondering if you meant to say that the
> DNS server would be a machine local to th
Hello Alexander,
Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 9:53:54 AM, you wrote:
A> In a LAN with a Domain Controller (or something) the DNS server
A> will be local machine.
The DNS server could be anything.
Generally you'll find the below:
Home networks - The DNS servers will be set to your ISP's DNS
Hello David Calvarese & everyone else,
on 15-Feb-2005 at 17:52 you (David Calvarese) wrote:
ASK>> What difference would it make? SMTP talks to another SMTP on port 25, just
ASK>> like TB talks to an SMTP on port 25.
> Well, I remember someone on the WELL suggesting it to work around that
> ISP t
Hello Stuart,
A reminder of what Stuart Hemming on TBBETA typed on:
15 February 2005 at 17:47:52 GMT +0100
SH> TBH I think the problem is that my attempts to connect to either
SH> GMail's SMTP or POP server is being blocked by the firewall here.
Well I would offer to help but I don't want t
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 17:53:54 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
ASK> on 15-Feb-2005 at 17:28 you (David Calvarese) wrote:
>> But the DHCP server should be telling your machine what the DNS is...
ASK> In a LAN with a Domain Controller (or something) the DNS server will be
ASK> local machine.
Our
Hello Avi,
A reminder of what Avi Yashar on TBBETA typed on:
15 February 2005 at 17:41:07 GMT +0100
AY> After all, I wouldn't want you to be the first one to get trouted on this
AY> heretofore trout-free day.
Who died and made you a moderator?
I have two gmail account's, both working perfec
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:45:52 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
SH> Got the details, set 'em up. Tried to send myself a message both at
SH> work and on GMail and both times the free smtp server told me I was
SH> trying to send to an invalid recipient.
Hrm. Not sure then. I've never used that parti
Hello David Calvarese & everyone else,
on 15-Feb-2005 at 17:28 you (David Calvarese) wrote:
> But the DHCP server should be telling your machine what the DNS is...
In a LAN with a Domain Controller (or something) the DNS server will be
local machine.
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 17:39:04 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
ASK> on 15-Feb-2005 at 15:42 you (David Calvarese) wrote:
>> Any possibility of running a local smtp server on your PC? I think I
>> recall seeing a few free ones around someplace.
ASK> What difference would it make? SMTP talks to
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TB> I take it your having trouble with gmail and pop access? What exactly is
the
TB> problem?
TBH I think the problem is that my attempts to connect to either
GMail's SMTP or POP server is being blocked by the firewall here.
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Usi
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Got the details, set 'em up. Tried to send myself a message both at
work and on GMail and both times the free smtp server told me I was
trying to send to an invalid recipient.
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Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:27:18 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
DC>> rss2pop3 and UMX in
SH> Good, aren't they.
The jury is still out on RSS2pop3... I think maybe firefox does a
better job with it's 'live bookmarks' feature. I'm not sure what to
make of UMX though.
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David
Using
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:36:41 +, Tony Boom wrote:
> I take it your having trouble with gmail and pop access? What exactly is the
> problem?
Well, here we go again... how about another round? :-) Tony, in
absolute good humor, wasn't there some sort of rule about checking the
archive of messages
Hello David Calvarese & everyone else,
on 15-Feb-2005 at 15:42 you (David Calvarese) wrote:
> Any possibility of running a local smtp server on your PC? I think I
> recall seeing a few free ones around someplace.
What difference would it make? SMTP talks to another SMTP on port 25, just
like TB
Hello Stuart,
A reminder of what Stuart Hemming on TBBETA typed on:
15 February 2005 at 17:26:55 GMT +0100
SH> Possibly. But I can't even be sure my request is reaching the gmail
SH> server ATM.
I've not been following this thread, because I thought it was about the new
beta that's due on
Hello David,
Tuesday, February 15, 2005, 9:28:27 AM, you wrote:
D> But the DHCP server should be telling your machine what the DNS is...
Correct.
From a command line:
ipconfig /all
on Win2K and higher.
I think it's winipconfig for older version of windows IIRC.
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Hello David Calvarese & everyone else,
on 15-Feb-2005 at 14:44 you (David Calvarese) wrote:
> Gmail SMTP uses SSL ports, not standard ones. Do you know if that is
> blocked as well? Lots of places block the normal ones but don't think
> to block the others. In Gmail's case, SMTP is on port 465
Hi MAU,
On 15/02/2005 10:20 AM, you wrote:
> I assume you are familiar with this link, aren't you?
>
> http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
No, I'm not.
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DC> rss2pop3 and UMX in
Good, aren't they.
DC> Our Yellow Sun yields to the dark as I begin my web based lark
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:22:46 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
DC>> You should be able to find your DNS server by looking at the
DC>> information for your network connection.
SH> Can you say DHCP? 8-)
SH> Nothing set up here at all. It's all managed by those fiendishly
SH> clever bods upstairs.
Bu
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:25:59 +0100, Cees wrote:
> Hallo Avi,
>
> >> No joy. The God of Email is not smiling on me today.
>
> AY> Well, I can only think of one other thing that you can try,
>
> I think he's laughing his ass off... have you seen the amount of e-mails on
> this list today? ;-)
Q
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DC> Looks like bribery is the way to go then in this case.
I'm breaking out the Mars bars as I type.
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DC> You should be able to find your DNS server by looking at the
DC> information for your network connection.
Can you say DHCP? 8-)
Nothing set up here at all. It's all managed by those fiendishly
clever bods upstairs.
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Using The
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EM> Can't it be the same case with you?
Possibly. But I can't even be sure my request is reaching the gmail
server ATM.
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Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyG
Het was op dinsdag 15 februari 2005 om 17:21 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'the
next beta ? when ?' :
Hallo Avi,
>> No joy. The God of Email is not smiling on me today.
AY> Well, I can only think of one other thing that you can try,
I think he's laughing his ass off... have you seen the amou
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:00:51 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
> No joy. The God of Email is not smiling on me today.
Well, I can only think of one other thing that you can try, but it's a
long shot. You can experiment with using the alternative SMTP port of
587 instead of 465.
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:01:29 +0200, Edvinas Matiuðaitis wrote:
> AY> Well, there is one mistake. You must add "@gmail.com" after your user
> name.
>
> Currently they also accept usernames without "@gmail.com". I've noticed that
> @gmail.com stuff in Stuart's screenshot and checked that, after re
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 15:53:44 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
SH> As I'm going through a firewall here I'm not sure how I'd set this up
SH> to find a DNS to point this software at.
You should be able to find your DNS server by looking at the
information for your network connection.
--
Best regar
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AY> Well, there is one mistake. You must add "@gmail.com" after your user name.
Now done.
AY> Also, to send mail, you must perform SMTP authentication with the same
AY> settings as mail retrieval?
Set.
No joy. The God of Email is not smiling on me to
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 15:54:24 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
DC>> Well, I know when I've worked places that blocked you from using an
DC>> SMTP server other than theirs that using a local SMTP on my machine
DC>> worked. Some ISPs even do that to you.
SH> Well I've tried that here to no avail.
Lo
Hello Avi,
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 17:39, you wrote:
AY> Well, there is one mistake. You must add "@gmail.com" after your user name.
Currently they also accept usernames without "@gmail.com". I've noticed that
@gmail.com stuff in Stuart's screenshot and checked that, after removing
@gm
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:32:46 +0100, MAU wrote:
AM>>> Good catch. :) Let's hope the filter works better, now that I've
AM>>> adjusted it.
>> Let's see, shall we...
M> Like others have said, please take no offence in what I am going to say.
M> I have been following this sub-thread about your exc
Hello Stuart,
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 16:45, you wrote:
SH> OK. I've done that. The transport settings in TB! can be seen in the
SH> attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing
SH> (I still can't connect although I can ping the server).
A couple of weeks ago
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DC> Well, I know when I've worked places that blocked you from using an
DC> SMTP server other than theirs that using a local SMTP on my machine
DC> worked. Some ISPs even do that to you.
Well I've tried that here to no avail.
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Usi
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As I'm going through a firewall here I'm not sure how I'd set this up
to find a DNS to point this software at.
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Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0,
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 14:45:49 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
DC>> pop.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com
SH> OK. I've done that. The transport settings in TB! can be seen in the
SH> attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing
SH> (I still can't connect although I can ping the
Hello Avi,
> Good point, Miguel... but a dangerous one. Who knows what will come
> next in the mad rush to conserve bandwidth. Omitting line breaks
> between paragraphs or spaces between words? Justtrytoimagineit.
You are right. I'll change my argument from bandwidth conservation to
readability ;
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:45:49 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
> attached screenshot. Can you think of anything else I might be missing
Well, there is one mistake. You must add "@gmail.com" after your user name.
Also, to send mail, you must perform SMTP authentication with the same
settings as mail r
Hello Stuart,
AM>> Good catch. :) Let's hope the filter works better, now that I've
AM>> adjusted it.
> Let's see, shall we...
Like others have said, please take no offence in what I am going to say.
I have been following this sub-thread about your excessively long
signature, disclaimer, etc., an
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:13:10 +0100, MAU wrote:
> > One other thought - maybe you could skip the PGP and the cute
> > quotation when sending messages to this list. I can't see how they add
> > much - other than maybe 12-13 lines of largely useless signature and
> > 2-3 lines of text above your sig.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 15:08:50 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
AY>> FWIW, I use TB for almost all my email except receiving and sending
AY>> messages to the tbbeta list.
SH> I haven't given up yet. I'm trying bribery on one of the sysadmins. If
SH> that doesn't work then I'll stick with what I've go
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:08:50 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
> AY> FWIW, I use TB for almost all my email except receiving and sending
> AY> messages to the tbbeta list.
> I haven't given up yet. I'm trying bribery on one of the sysadmins. If
> that doesn't work then I'll stick with what I've got.
T
Hello Allie,
> I just adjusted the filters. What happened is that they have actually
> *added* more to the disclaimer. Incredible!! It's now 20 lines of text
> to remove.
I assume you are familiar with this link, aren't you?
http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
--
Best regards,
Mi
Hello Avi,
> One other thought - maybe you could skip the PGP and the cute
> quotation when sending messages to this list. I can't see how they add
> much - other than maybe 12-13 lines of largely useless signature and
> 2-3 lines of text above your sig.
Well, at least Stuart is trying to save so
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AY> FWIW, I use TB for almost all my email except receiving and sending
AY> messages to the tbbeta list.
I haven't given up yet. I'm trying bribery on one of the sysadmins. If
that doesn't work then I'll stick with what I've got.
- --
Stuart Hemming
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 14:48:55 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
DC>> Any possibility of running a local smtp server on your PC? I think I
DC>> recall seeing a few free ones around someplace.
SH> I'd still have to get the mail out, wouldn't I?
Well, I know when I've worked places that blocked you fr
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:48:18 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
> AY> Okay, but did you first do what David said?
> I hadn't then but I have now with the same (null) effect. I'm guessing
> that the problem is the firewall.
Could be. Anyway, thanks for trying.
FWIW, I use TB for almost all my email exc
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 16:47:29 +0200, Avi Yashar wrote:
>> Any possibility of running a local smtp server on your PC? I think I
>> recall seeing a few free ones around someplace.
AY> If I am not mistaken, just about every lousy worm and spyware in
AY> circulation these days has its own SMTP ser
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DC> Any possibility of running a local smtp server on your PC? I think I
DC> recall seeing a few free ones around someplace.
I'd still have to get the mail out, wouldn't I?
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Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Se
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AY> Okay, but did you first do what David said?
I hadn't then but I have now with the same (null) effect. I'm guessing
that the problem is the firewall.
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Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Aided by
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:42:11 -0500, David Calvarese wrote:
> Any possibility of running a local smtp server on your PC? I think I
> recall seeing a few free ones around someplace.
If I am not mistaken, just about every lousy worm and spyware in
circulation these days has its own SMTP server. :-(
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:35:48 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
> AY> No, it's pop.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com.
> Tried that. Cannot connect to server
Okay, but did you first do what David said? Before you can connect to
the server, you must log in to Gmail and go to Settings>>Fowarding and
Pop, and t
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AY> Believe it or not, who we are is not always of paramount
AY> importance to others.
I have a very low sense of self. I'm taking tablets for it, but there
you go. For now I'll keep on signing.
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Stuart Hemming
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 14:35:48 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
AY>> No, it's pop.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com.
SH> Tried that. Cannot connect to server
Well, it was worth a shot... Did you enable pop access via the gmail
website like I mentioned?
Any possibility of running a local smtp server on
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AY> No, it's pop.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com.
Tried that. Cannot connect to server
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Stuart Hemming
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2,
SpamPal v1.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:31:36 -0500, David Calvarese wrote:
> Also, you have to log into the website and enable POP access in your
> settings.
Good point, David.
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Avi Yashar
Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.10
Current beta is
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:26:52 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
> AY> So, finally, what do you think of my suggestion about forgoing
> AY> the PGP when sending messages to the list?
> Not a chance. How would you know I was me.
I'd take it on faith. Quite frankly, I am replying to what you are
saying mu
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 at 14:22:14 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
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SH> Hash: SHA1
DC>> Ah well, it was worth a shot anyway. Be sure you have 'Secure to
DC>> Dedicated Port (TLS)' selected.
SH> Done that. It occurs to me that I've guessed the name of the SMTP/POP
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:22:14 +, Stuart Hemming wrote:
> DC> Ah well, it was worth a shot anyway. Be sure you have 'Secure to
> DC> Dedicated Port (TLS)' selected.
> Done that. It occurs to me that I've guessed the name of the SMTP/POP
> servers as gmail.com. Is this right?
No, it's pop.gmail
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AY> So, finally, what do you think of my suggestion about forgoing
AY> the PGP when sending messages to the list?
Not a chance. How would you know I was me.
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Stuart Hemming
Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Aide
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AY> Stuart, I'll bet you can still use Gmail. Just not via the Gmail SMTP
AY> server. It seems that you can access the Gmail Web site, because you
AY> signed up for a Gmail account.
I could, but I don't want to. I've taken some time and trouble to get
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AM> :) I can't recall what happens if Stuart were to use PGP/MIME. Maybe
AM> the sysadmins have nothing in place for that.
Because they tag the disclaimer on /after/ the message is signed the
signature is always invalid 'cos message has been changed.
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DC> Ah well, it was worth a shot anyway. Be sure you have 'Secure to
DC> Dedicated Port (TLS)' selected.
Done that. It occurs to me that I've guessed the name of the SMTP/POP
servers as gmail.com. Is this right?
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Stuart Hemming
Using The Bat! v3
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005 at 9:07:59 AM [GMT -0500], Avi Yashar
wrote:
> I see that Allie's filter is now doing a better job of trimming your
> sig. So, finally, what do you think of my suggestion about forgoing
> the PGP when sending messages to the list? If that is possible, then
> your mess
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