Re[2]: About 3.51 release

2005-07-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JW o Will it give me an OTFE implementation that I can use (i.e. JW that will search my message base without hanging and also JW preserve my settings while migrating)? 9 Actually I don't think problems with search reported in list are 9

Re: About 3.51 release

2005-07-27 Thread Maurice Snellen
On Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 02:37 (which was Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 1:37 where I am) Jay Walker wrote: I have no idea what is the best charset for me to use. One account seems to be set to default at Latin 9 (ISO) and another account seems to be set to default at Western European

Sorting issue?

2005-07-27 Thread Fabio Muzzi
Hello tbbeta, I don't know if this is the right list, but I have a possible bug to report. I have found that if I sort messages by receive date, and the receive date is the same for some messages (that is, they are all fetched from pop3 in the same minute), they are

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jay, On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:06:02 +0300GMT (27-7-2005, 7:06 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AY What I mean to say is that in 3.51.10 - and maybe in some earlier AY versions - I go to my Tools menu and see at the bottom an arrow that AY is unnamed (Voldemort?) pointing to a submenu that is

Re[3]: About 3.51 release

2005-07-27 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Goncalo Farias wrote: JW o Will it give me an OTFE implementation that I can use (i.e. JW that will search my message base without hanging and also JW preserve my settings while migrating)? 9 Actually I don't think problems with search reported

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Jay Walker
On 7/27/05, Roelof Otten wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:06:02 +0300GMT (27-7-2005, 7:06 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AY What I mean to say is that in 3.51.10 - and maybe in some earlier AY versions - I go to my Tools menu and see at the bottom an arrow that AY is unnamed (Voldemort?)

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Jay, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 4:05:30 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: JW Mine is also not an edited Tools menu. Never did any customization. JW But what I am missing is what used to be at the bottom and is still JW visible as a ghostly remnant - the Wizards. See my attached

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Wayne, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 5:14:08 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: WH I had the same problem. As Mary Bull indicated, this was fixed in the WH latest version (3.51.10) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], but WH apparently (by my observation) some tbuuser.defs have become WH corrupted.

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Wayne, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 5:14:08 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: WH Resolved: I had to delete my tbuser.def and allow it to be recreated. WH Then I could modify it as it normally should. Apparently somewhere WH along the line my tbuser.def got corrupted. Perhaps this

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Jay Walker
On 7/27/05, Wayne Howard wrote: I should also have said that you should backup your existing tbuser.def first. You will lose any modifications that you have made that are stored here. However, for me, remaking the few modifications I had was well worth it! Recreating the tbuser.def file

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Jay, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 6:24:50 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: JW Recreating the tbuser.def file resolves the issue, but how many JW settings will I have to restore now? I seem to recall that a similar JW problem was resolved once before without forcing users to

how long to unsubscribe?

2005-07-27 Thread Dave Gorman
Yesterday I sent TBBETA TBUDL unsubscribe requests to the address in the headers. I am still receiving list mail. How long does it usually take for unsubscribe requests to be completed? -- Dave Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA'

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Jay Walker
On 7/27/05, Wayne Howard wrote: I am the wrong person to ask. I discovered this on my own, with some help from Mary. As far as it being corrupted, that is my speculation. It could very well be that it simply has outmoded or superfluous entries. Look at it in notepad. It contains a lot of

Re: how long to unsubscribe?

2005-07-27 Thread Jay Walker
On 7/27/05, Dave Gorman wrote: Yesterday I sent TBBETA TBUDL unsubscribe requests to the address in the headers. I am still receiving list mail. How long does it usually take for unsubscribe requests to be completed? Try going to the following URL:

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread -=Curtis=-
On Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 4:14:08 AM [GMT -0500], Wayne Howard wrote: Resolved: I had to delete my tbuser.def and allow it to be recreated. Then I could modify it as it normally should. Apparently somewhere along the line my tbuser.def got corrupted. Perhaps this explains a part of the

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread -=Curtis=-
On Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 6:11:56 AM [GMT -0500], Jay Walker wrote: Anyway, thanks for helping to track down the problem, Wayne. I think that there is a bug here that RL must fix, but I imagine that the bug has already been reported in numerous places. So the only question that remains

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Jay, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 7:11:56 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: JW Anyway, thanks for helping to track down the problem, Wayne. I think JW that there is a bug here that RL must fix, but I imagine that the bug JW has already been reported in numerous places. So the only

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello -=Curtis=-, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 7:38:38 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: C AV's What is an AV? -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know

Re[2]: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Wayne Howard wrote: C AV's What is an AV? abbreviation of Access Violation -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2

version confusion

2005-07-27 Thread Cees
Het is nu woensdag 27 juli 2005, 16:36:56 h : Hoi tbbeta, okay. these days I go for the daily-bat but it's not updated on a daily basis apparently. So I wanted to go back/forth to beta-10 but couldn't find it on my puter. sigh Hence, I went to the Ritlabs site and this is what I

Re: version confusion

2005-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Cees! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 9:39 AM, you wrote: whatever happened to 9 (which I have) and 10 (which I lost?) Confused? you won't be after next weeks episode of Ritlabs! :) Look on the public download page at www.ritlabs.com . 3.51 there is the same as 3.51.10. Was

Re[2]: version confusion

2005-07-27 Thread Cees
Het was op woensdag 27 juli 2005 om 16:51 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'version confusion' : Hoi Mary, whatever happened to 9 (which I have) and 10 (which I lost?) Confused? you won't be after next weeks episode of Ritlabs! :) MB Look on the public download page at www.ritlabs.com

Re: version confusion

2005-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Cees! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 10:01 AM, you wrote: MB I *think* the above information is correct. It's what 9Val told me, or MB at least, what I understood him to be telling me. :) Czech's all Greek to me too :D Bless your heart! I verily do not believe that 9Val is Czech! Rather,

Bug-report repost: View mode: Group by date

2005-07-27 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers. I reported this for 3.5 RC7. No change since then. ,- [ mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] | I don't know when this features was introduced (quite cool, actually - | looks Outlook-like) but am I the only one who thinks it behaves | strangely? | | If I set up a view mode that

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Wayne, On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:09:40 -0400 GMT (27/07/2005, 20:09 +0700 GMT), Wayne Howard wrote: WH It has. As I mentioned in my first post to you, see the following: WH this was fixed in the latest version (3.51.10) WH mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I don't think the fix WH fixes

Re: Sorting issue?

2005-07-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Stuart, On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 07:06:09 -0500 GMT (27/07/2005, 19:06 +0700 GMT), Stuart Cuddy wrote: SC Unless you have a specific reason for sorting by Received time you may SC want to switch by Created time. This way replies are usually after SC the original message. I have a specific

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Thomas, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 1:11:17 PM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: TF Probably. I see the same empty menu item as you. But I am not willing TF to delete my tbuser.def file, because I don't know what I will have to TF reconfigure. TF What's the way out? I told you all I

Re[2]: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Probably. I see the same empty menu item as you. But I am not willing to delete my tbuser.def file, because I don't know what I will have to reconfigure. What's the way out? Wizards item in Tools menu was available in older

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Marek, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 1:40:44 PM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: MM - delete part from tbuser.def manually: MM close TB MM open tbuser.def MM find following part: hr container item [MailerForm].[mWizards] { item [MailerForm].[Wizards] hr

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Wayne Howard wrote: MM - delete part from tbuser.def manually: MM close TB MM open tbuser.def MM find following part: hr container item [MailerForm].[mWizards] { item [MailerForm].[Wizards] hr item

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Wayne Howard
Hello Marek, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 2:15:26 PM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: What does this part of your explanation do? MM removes unused Wizards items from main menu Tools, TB displays MM what it finds in tbuser.def or in def file included in thebat.exe. I guess I didn't

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Marek Mikus everyone else, on 27-Jul-2005 at 19:40 you (Marek Mikus) wrote: find following part: hr container item [MailerForm].[mWizards] { item [MailerForm].[Wizards] hr item [MailerForm].[mwDownloadWizards] } delete it This is still too

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: find following part: hr container item [MailerForm].[mWizards] { item [MailerForm].[Wizards] hr item [MailerForm].[mwDownloadWizards] } delete it This is still too complicated for my taste.

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Wayne! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 1:35 PM, you wrote: What does this part of your explanation do? MM removes unused Wizards items from main menu Tools, TB displays MM what it finds in tbuser.def or in def file included in thebat.exe. I guess I didn't follow that because I don't

Re[3]: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Dick Hoogendoorn
Hello Marek, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 19:40:44 GMT +0200 (which was 19:40:44 where I live), Marek Mikus wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Probably. I see the same empty menu item as

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Dick Hoogendoorn wrote: Uuhhh...any hints how I can achieve this when I'm using OTFE, i.e. having a tbuser.EEF file rather than a tbuser.def? maybe there is another solution. Open Customiser, select Main menu container, select Tools menu item and check,

Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ian! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 5:49 PM, you wrote: It appears that for the smiley to quote, it must have printable white space after it. It does not quote if there is nothing after it, or if there is just a carriage return and line feed only after it. Can anyone confirm :(

Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Ian A. White wrote: I received an update to the BT item advising that this bug had been fixed, but in reality it has not. BT report was fixed today, latest build was released yesterday, You must expect this bugfix in next build, not in previous. -- Bye

Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Natasha V Pearce
Hoi Ian If the smiley is the last item on a line and you select that line for quoting, it depends on what you select as to whether it will selectively quote or not. If you drag the cursor so that the smiley at the end of the line is just selected, it will not quote. If you select the line

Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Marek! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 6:04 PM, you wrote: I received an update to the BT item advising that this bug had been fixed, but in reality it has not. BT report was fixed today, latest build was released yesterday, You must expect this bugfix in next build, not in previous.

Re: version confusion

2005-07-27 Thread NetVicious
miƩrcoles, 27 jul 2005 at 16:39, it seems you wrote: Upcoming release version: 3.6 Latest test build: 3.51.8 WHAT? Ritlabs, please, number the upcoming release version as 3.60. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 3.51.10 Professional with OTFE / \ / \ /

Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Natasha! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 6:08 PM, you wrote: Can anyone confirm :( Absolutely. In addition, as I wrote in my note attached to the BT, any smiley on the last line will not be quoted unless another line/paragraph below the one with the smiley/s is selected. But only if the

Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ian! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 6:12 PM, you wrote: MB If you would like to, perhaps you will add another supporting note, in MB regard to the bug's still being present in v. 3.51.10. I would very MB much appreciate your doing that. MB http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3889 I

Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Natasha V Pearce
Hoi Mary Natasha, if you have the time, could you put a further note to that effect at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3889 Already done. :realtardis: -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51.10 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2

Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Natasha! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 6:19 PM, you wrote: Natasha, if you have the time, could you put a further note to that effect at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3889 Already done. :realtardis: I am soo behind-the-times! Thanks a mil for the support!! :) Well, when Diman

Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Natasha V Pearce
Hoi Mary I guess we just have to wait for the next beta release, to see if it really is fixed. I've just checked the daily build link: this still retrieves 3.51.9 - so no help there. The change log (whichcanalsobefoundat

Re: version confusion

2005-07-27 Thread Jay Walker
On 7/28/05, NetVicious wrote: miƩrcoles, 27 jul 2005 at 16:39, it seems you wrote: Upcoming release version: 3.6 Latest test build: 3.51.8 WHAT? Ritlabs, please, number the upcoming release version as 3.60. NV, I completely agree, but... as others have argued... TB has

PM Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Natasha! Thanks for this welcome Private Mail! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 6:51 PM, you wrote: I guess we just have to wait for the next beta release, to see if it really is fixed. I've just checked the daily build link: this still retrieves 3.51.9 - so no help there. The

Re: PM Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mary! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 7:07 PM, you wrote: Thanks for this welcome Private Mail! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 6:51 PM, you wrote: I guess we just have to wait for the next beta release, to see if it really is fixed. I've just checked the daily build link: this still

Re: PM Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Natasha V Pearce
Hoi Mary Well, I guess I have a messed-up filter. Wasn't a PM. And I'm getting a little tired at the end of a long day, so I failed to double-check my To field before sending. Happens to us all at one time or another. Apologies to Natasha and to the list. None necessary to me, and I'm

Re: PM Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Natasha! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 7:26 PM, you wrote: Well, I guess I have a messed-up filter. Wasn't a PM. And I'm getting a little tired at the end of a long day, so I failed to double-check my To field before sending. Happens to us all at one time or another. Apologies to

Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat

2005-07-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:40:44 +0200 GMT (28/07/2005, 00:40 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: MM But if was tbuser.def created by old betaversion with this item MM included, it can't be automatically hided by new build, current MM version can't delete only part of tbuser.def. MM Now You

Re: PM Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10

2005-07-27 Thread Jay Walker
On 7/28/05, Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Natasha! Come on, girls, please take it offline already. That's four messages so far, and I am starting to feel like a captive voyeur. :yech: -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.51.10

IMAP counters and common folders

2005-07-27 Thread Natasha V Pearce
Hi everyone Anyone else experiencing the following? 1. Setup a Read Messages filter for an IMAP Inbox to send each message to a common folder when it's marked read. 2. Read a message in the IMAP Inbox. 3. On exiting the following are true: a. The message is moved to the

More Confusion about Lycos Mail

2005-07-27 Thread Jay Walker
I just thought to download the 3.51 MSI to test how it upgrades a simple, largely non-functional OTFE installation on a desktop that I rarely use. So once again I had an opportunity to see the advert for Lycos Mail. I must admit that I still find that advert confusing, mainly because it appears to