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On 31 Oct 2005, at 02:26, Dwight A Corrin wrote:
why do we need computers, when we have pencil, paper, and morse code?
And I'm fluent in morse code... Or I used to be a few years ago.
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Tony Boom
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Het was op maandag 31 oktober 2005 om 9:06 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'About
release' :
Hoi Tony,
why do we need computers, when we have pencil, paper, and morse code?
TB And I'm fluent in morse code... Or I used to be a few years ago.
right, Inspector Morse, I presume? :)
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groeten,
Hello MAU,
MAU risked a carpal syndrome while typing his first novel:
I know some of you will be surprised with the subject of this messages
but, yes, it says what it says.
[...]
One more last thing. I don't want to start any further discussion with
this message, so don't bother to reply
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On 31 Oct 2005, at 08:12, Cees wrote:
right, Inspector Morse, I presume? :)
But do you know my first name?
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PGP http://www.theboomclan.com/tbc.asc
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Dwight A Corrin wrote:
Why do we need The Bat? We don't, Thunderbird, Mulberry, Mail2 all
work perfectly well.
why do we need computers, when we have pencil, paper, and morse code?
If you compare TheBat! with pencil and paper, you have to assume that
every new pencil works different
Hi TBBETA,
When I try to open the Account log in build 3.62.08 I receive the following
AV:
Access Violation at address 00A70D81. Read of address .
Does anyone else see this ?
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Robert van der Hulst
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! 3.62.08 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2
Hello all,
Monday, October 31, 2005, Robert van der Hulst wrote:
When I try to open the Account log in build 3.62.08 I receive the following
AV:
Access Violation at address 00A70D81. Read of address .
Does anyone else see this ?
not here, Account.log opens without problem.
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On 31 Oct 2005, at 09:22, Michael Schneider wrote:
And in v3.72.12 final5 there's no lead at all - but it comes with
a mailchat function.
Your powers of analogy are excellent, love it :)
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Tony Boom
PGP http://www.theboomclan.com/tbc.asc
Randy wrote:
I installed PGP Desktop 9.0.2 and immediately ran into a plethora of
issues including, but not limited to, the complete loss of network
connectivity for everything except e-mail.
Ooops! You're not the first that would happen to, though I've never been
victim to that.
I figured
Hello Richard,
30/10/2005, 21:47:59: FETCH - 4 messages in the mailbox, 3 new
Snipped message details
30/10/2005, 21:48:02: FETCH - connection finished - 3 messages received
There is your problem, or at least an indication of where the problem
may be. There _are_ 4 messages in your server
Hello Robert,
When I try to open the Account log in build 3.62.08 I receive the following
AV:
Access Violation at address 00A70D81. Read of address .
Does anyone else see this ?
No problem here, sorry.
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Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.62.08
Hello Martin,
Reformat paragraph with Alt-L still doesn't work in HTML-messages
and plain text messages which are a reply to a HTML-message.
Alt+L is not supposed to reformat paragraph because paragraphs are
always formatted there.
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Stefan
...IBM: Its Being Mended
Recently, Robert van der Hulst squawked:
open the Account log in build 3.62.08
Access Violation at address 00A70D81. Read of address .
Same here as with Marek, no problem opening Logs
using hot-key and pull-down too
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Robert D.
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The Bat! Version: 3.62.08
Hello Richard,
V TB! has a log, that keeps track of EVERYTHING. Check it.
Don't worry, I have and there's no sign of those mails, they just
haven't been downloaded.
So, they are still on the server?
I do REALLY heavy business emailing with TB!. Supporting, quoting,
etc. etc. The only
Hello Richard,
M But what does your log say about number of messages in mailbox and new?
M For each fetch there should be a line like this one:
M 31/10/2005, 01:12:49: FETCH - 3 messages in the mailbox, 3 new
Normally something like:
30/10/2005, 21:47:59: FETCH - 4 messages in the mailbox, 3
Hello Richard,
M But what does your log say about number of messages in mailbox and new?
M For each fetch there should be a line like this one:
M 31/10/2005, 01:12:49: FETCH - 3 messages in the mailbox, 3 new
Normally something like:
30/10/2005, 21:47:59: FETCH - 4 messages in the mailbox, 3
Hello Robert,
When I try to open the Account log in build 3.62.08 I receive the following
AV:
Access Violation at address 00A70D81. Read of address .
Does anyone else see this ?
It is ok here.
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Vili
The Bat 3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1
Hello MAU,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
M There is your problem, or at least an indication of where the problem
M may be. There _are_ 4 messages in your server but only 3 appear as new
M (unread) and those 3 are the ones downloaded by TB.
Yes, because the other one was
Hello Vili,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
V One is on the server yet. Reason: hard to say from here...
Very simple to say, it's the only one left after removing the previous
messages from the server and it's already been downloaded.
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| The Bat!
Hello Vili,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
V So, they are still on the server?
There are mail messages on the server, yes, but they have already been
downloaded and read but not yet deleted from the server.
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Regards, Richard
| The Bat! 3.62.01 with SpamPal POP3
Hello Vili,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
V Did not you say, that you leave your mails for a day on the server?
Yes but, presumably, the moment a time passes when it's longer than a
day then those messages will be removed. I've just sent a message to
Miguel saying that,
On Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 17:53 (which was Thursday, October
27, 2005 at 16:53 where I am) Maurice Snellen [MS] wrote:
MS This started happening for me most prominently on the 'Refilter
MS complete' and 'New folder' dialogs. I've logged it as
MS https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5183
Tony Boom wrote:
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On 31 Oct 2005, at 08:12, Cees wrote:
right, Inspector Morse, I presume? :)
But do you know my first name?
Endeavour
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Mike
Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using
Hello Maurice,
Monday, October 31, 2005, 7:23:48 AM, you wrote:
MS This started happening for me most prominently on the 'Refilter
MS complete' and 'New folder' dialogs. I've logged it as
MS https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5183
MS In my previous mail, I called them 'mnemonics' but maybe
Het was op maandag 31 oktober 2005 om 10:34 uur dat jij iets schreef over
'Opening Account Log generates AV' :
Hoi Robert,
RvdH When I try to open the Account log in build 3.62.08 I receive the
following
RvdH AV:
RvdH Access Violation at address 00A70D81. Read of address .
RvdH Does
Hi Alexander,
It was my decision, all stones to me.
ASK (in the end, I'm a friendly person, and I couldn't throw that
ASK far, anyway).
Are you so friendly only because couldn't throw that far? ;)
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9Val
Hello MAU,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:58:28 +0100 GMT (31/10/2005, 06:58 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:
9Val recommended the same workaround, but failed to advise how I can
easily convert my hundreds of filters. I did try this workaround with
three example filters but didn't get it to work.
M I think it
Hello Alto,
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:53:35 +0100 GMT (31/10/2005, 05:53 +0700 GMT),
Alto Speckhardt wrote:
AS You also have to finally adress age-old bugs like the
AS MicroEd-EOL-handling. This also remains open since v1, despite massive
AS discussions on this list.
Please refresh my memory. I
Hello MAU,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:12:43 +0100 GMT (31/10/2005, 07:12 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:
M I think what most people is asking for is that when you reply to a
M message in a folder, the reply goes to the same folder.
Yes.
M I think this would be fairly easy if the FOLDERNAME macro, or a
Hello Richard,
M What is your setting for Account/Properties/Mail Management/Message
M Management?
Leave messages on Server for 1 day and delete from Server when deleting
from trash.
I have never tried that option, I always delete received messages from
server.
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Best regards,
Miguel A.
Thomas,
On 31-10-2005 17:27, you [TF] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
TF My suggestion to to put a tickmark in an obvious place, saying
TF store replies in the same folder as the original message. I
TF understand other email clients offer this.
I agree. I also think it should be easier to have
Hello Thomas,
M I think it should be relatively easy using an editor like TextPad or
M UltraEdit.
Now, is that sarcasm or irony?
Neither :) I really believe it should be easy. Copy one of your filters
and send it to me as a TXT file and I will return you the edited one.
You'll owe me a beer
Hello 9Val,
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:32:08 +0200 GMT (31/10/2005, 04:32 +0700 GMT),
9Val wrote:
9 Stability is relative.
That is worth an entry in my tagline file.
Mind you, I don't have a stability problem with TB.
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Cheers,
Thomas.
Signs Your Co-Worker Is A Hacker: When asked for their
Hello MAU,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:39:44 +0100 GMT (31/10/2005, 23:39 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:
Now, is that sarcasm or irony?
M Neither :) I really believe it should be easy. Copy one of your filters
M and send it to me as a TXT file and I will return you the edited one.
You missed the point.
Hello Thomas,
M Neither :) I really believe it should be easy. Copy one of your filters
M and send it to me as a TXT file and I will return you the edited one.
You missed the point. Unless you are volunterring to convert my
colleagues files as well...
No, I'm just volunteering to do it once,
Does anyone else see this ?
Working fine here.
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Stuart Hemming
Using The Bat! v3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70,
MyMacros 1.11a.
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Hello Stefan Tanurkov everyone else,
on 31-Okt-2005 at 11:58 you (Stefan Tanurkov) wrote:
Reformat paragraph with Alt-L still doesn't work in HTML-messages
and plain text messages which are a reply to a HTML-message.
Alt+L is not supposed to reformat paragraph because paragraphs are
always
Hello MAU everyone else,
on 31-Okt-2005 at 01:19 you (MAU) wrote:
Price varies between the professional and the home version.
Is there an intermediate price for professionals who work at home? ;-)
There's even a price for homies working as professionals! No pun
intended... ;-)
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Best
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else,
on 30-Okt-2005 at 23:53 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote:
You also have to finally adress age-old bugs like the
MicroEd-EOL-handling. This also remains open since v1, despite massive
discussions on this list.
Thats not a bug, thats a feature, as it has been
Hello Martin Schoch everyone else,
on 31-Okt-2005 at 18:29 you (Martin Schoch) wrote:
Reformat paragraph with Alt-L still doesn't work in HTML-messages and
plain text messages which are a reply to a HTML-message.
Alt+L is not supposed to reformat paragraph because paragraphs are
always
Hallo Robert,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:34:51 +0100GMT (31-10-2005, 10:34 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:
RVD When I try to open the Account log in build 3.62.08 I receive the following
RVD AV:
RVD Access Violation at address 00A70D81. Read of address .
RVD Does anyone else see this ?
Hello beta testers.
I just got this now working with IMAP remote outbox.
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Access violation at address 77D78931 in module 'user32.dll'. Read of address
DCBAABCD.
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Hallo tbbeta,
On a German list some body mentioned that the %Header(...) macro
started to act differently from before.
I don't know when it started but in 3.02.10
%Header(Date) in a reply template gave me the Date: header of the
original message, this doesn't work anymore
I have noticed since the new release that there has not seemed to be a
flood of mail in TBUDL, as there often is. Perhaps the not Beta
testers who are there aren't having as much trouble with this release
as some predicted/feared?
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Dwight A. Corrin
928 S Broadway
Wichita KS 67211
316.303.1411
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On 31 Oct 2005, at 18:25, Peter Fjelsten wrote:
I just got this now working with IMAP remote outbox.
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Hi,
You also have to finally adress age-old bugs like the
MicroEd-EOL-handling. This also remains open since v1, despite
massive discussions on this list.
ASK Thats not a bug, thats a feature [...]
As has been established quite extensivly it might be
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Hi,
AS You also have to finally adress age-old bugs like the
AS MicroEd-EOL-handling. This also remains open since v1, despite
AS massive discussions on this list.
TF Please refresh my memory. I have no EOL problem in MicroEd.
With auto format enabled MicroEd
Hello Dwight A Corrin everyone else,
on 31-Okt-2005 at 19:29 you (Dwight A Corrin) wrote:
I have noticed since the new release that there has not seemed to be a
flood of mail in TBUDL, as there often is. Perhaps the not Beta
testers who are there aren't having as much trouble with this
Hello MAU,
I thought about submitting a feature request to change the To column to
show/display _only_ the To field, but I'd like to hear some comment from
you first.
I finally submitted the wish if you'd care to support it.
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5275
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Best regards,
Hello all,
One of the bug reports that I have submitted recently:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5177
has not been assigned to anyone yet. Hoever its status was changed to
'feedback' with a pink background.
Does anybody know what this status means? Am I supposed to do something?
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Hello Alto,
ASK You should file a wish and ask for support, if you haven't done
ASK so already.
What do you think _this_ is?
He means in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php
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Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2
Hello Roelof,
I don't know when it started but in 3.02.10
%Header(Date) in a reply template gave me the Date: header of the
original message, this doesn't work anymore
True.
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Vili
The Bat 3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1
Hello MAU,
One of the bug reports that I have submitted recently:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5177
has not been assigned to anyone yet. Hoever its status was changed to
'feedback' with a pink background.
Does anybody know what this status means? Am I supposed to do something?
Hello Vili!
On Monday, October 31, 2005, 2:36 PM, you wrote:
One of the bug reports that I have submitted recently:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5177
has not been assigned to anyone yet. Hoever its status was changed to
'feedback' with a pink background.
Does anybody know what
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else,
on 31-Okt-2005 at 19:45 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote:
Let's not start this whole discussion all over again
No one mentioned it during the last months, you did. Go figure. :-)
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Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
If one
On Monday, October 31, 2005, 12:56:32 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
Or perhaps this is because there was no message explicitely
announcing 3.62.05 ...and following... on TBUDL.
there is clearly an awareness there of the release.
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Dwight A. Corrin
928 S Broadway
Wichita KS 67211
Hello Roelof,
On a German list some body mentioned that the %Header(...) macro
started to act differently from before.
The reason is we are preparing a new engine for message composition and old
behaviour puzzled it. Generally, %HEADER macro should be used for referring to
fields of the
Hello Alexander,
Alt+L is not supposed to reformat paragraph because paragraphs are
always formatted there.
That makes no sense.
Oh, yes it does. Paragraph alignment settings are sticky in HTML - this means,
once you've set a particular alignment to a paragraph, the paragraph keeps
reflowing
On Monday, October 31, 2005, at 19:27:33 [UTC+0100] (Monday, October 31,
2005 19:27 my local time) Roelof Otten wrote:
On a German list some body mentioned that the %Header(...) macro
started to act differently from before.
I don't know when it started but in 3.02.10
%Header(Date) in
Hello Alto,
With auto format enabled MicroEd is unable to distinguish between
two following lines that are not seperated by a third containing only
a return.
This is because of line-oriented (contrary to paragraph-oriented) nature of
MicroEd text representation. You can use Windows Editor if
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Hi,
Let's not start this whole discussion all over again
ASK No one mentioned it during the last months, you did. Go figure.
ASK :-)
It's still not fixed. Once I hoped it might come around just by
itself, but it didn't. The time seemed apropriate to remind
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Hi,
With auto format enabled MicroEd is unable to distinguish between
two following lines that are not seperated by a third containing
only a return.
ST This is because [...]
Please excuse me, but we had all this in abundant detail a few months
ago. I think
Hello Alto,
Please excuse me, but we had all this in abundant detail a few months
ago. I think I have clearly demonstrated then why the current TB-way
is unfit
It's not TB's behaviour, it's MicroEd's behaviour. If you don't like MicroEd's
behaviour, you can use Windows editor. The behaviour
Hello Alto,
It's still not fixed.
There is nothing to fix - this has been repeated hundreds of times. MicroEd
works as designed.
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Best regards,
Stefanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Current beta is 3.62.07 |
Hello Thomas,
ST The drawback is that a lot of Windows controls must be created and
ST handled.
I understand this. However, it is impossible to explain it to my
colleagues.
That's why I recommended to use combo conditions instead of separate ones.
9Val recommended the same workaround, but
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Hi,
It's still not fixed.
ST There is nothing to fix - this has been repeated hundreds of
ST times. MicroEd works as designed.
So does terrorism. That doesn't mean it's a good thing.
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Hi,
ST It's not TB's behaviour, it's MicroEd's behaviour. If you don't
ST like MicroEd's behaviour, you can use Windows editor.
The windows-editor doesn't know a thing about quote handling,
reformating or many other features intrinsic for writing emails.
Hello Alto,
It's still not fixed.
ST There is nothing to fix - this has been repeated hundreds of
ST times. MicroEd works as designed.
So does terrorism. That doesn't mean it's a good thing.
AFAIK, lots of people like it. No matter what parallels you draw.
What about Windows Editor? Why
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Hi,
It's still not fixed.
ST There is nothing to fix - this has been repeated hundreds of
ST times. MicroEd works as designed.
ST AFAIK, lots of people like it. No matter what parallels you draw.
That's why I'm suggesting to make it switchable, not to abolish
Hello Alto,
ST It's not TB's behaviour, it's MicroEd's behaviour. If you don't
ST like MicroEd's behaviour, you can use Windows editor.
The windows-editor doesn't know a thing about quote handling,
reformating or many other features intrinsic for writing emails.
Intrinsic to me, that is.
Alto Speckhardt wrote:
The windows-editor doesn't know a thing about quote handling,
reformating or many other features intrinsic for writing emails.
Intrinsic to me, that is.
MicroEd never needed things like reflow on sending, and alas, TB!
doesn't have it for the Windows editor.
ST The
Hi,
Take the editor of any other email-program: Every one of those
performs adequate in this matter, with no problems at all.
ST Do they provide quote handling and reflowing the same way MicroEd
ST does?
Not exactly. They do it right.
I have an editor here from a mailbox net that received
Hello MAU,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:52:25 +0100 GMT (31/10/2005, 23:52 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:
M No, I'm just volunteering to do it once, proof the concept and teach you
M how to do it :)
No that's OK, thanks for the offer. It would just teach me how to use
another workaround, and that was not the
Hello MAU,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:02:36 +0100 GMT (01/11/2005, 00:02 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:
M This was just let's say a 'concept suggestion' for Stephan which could
M be implemented transparently to the user.
Oh, I thought you wanted the user to use that macro.
M Why? Because you may reply to
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Hi,
The problem is rather that MicroEd removes hard-CRs. If it would
just leave them where I type them there would not be a problem.
C It doesn't recognise your hard-CR's differently from the ones it
C inserts itself.
I see, but this is definitly wrong
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Hi,
once again, one of the real beta-problems I asked about has been
buried in something else. So, I'd like to ask again:
Where did the Autosize feature for the columns in the message list
window go? Has it been moved elsewhere or is this one of those just
Hello MAU,
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:05:55 +0100 GMT (01/11/2005, 02:05 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:
M I finally submitted the wish if you'd care to support it.
M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5275
Supported.
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Cheers,
Thomas.
When a clock is hungry, it goes back four seconds.
Hello Stefan,
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 01:09:43 +0200 GMT (01/11/2005, 06:09 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:
I understand this. However, it is impossible to explain it to my
colleagues.
ST That's why I recommended to use combo conditions instead of separate ones.
OK, but still looks more like a
Alto Speckhardt wrote:
Are you sure? When I modify the window size of a normal editor, the
word wrap changes with the column width.
Some editors allow you to window wrap while typing, or they will wrap at
a set character limit. I'm referring to the latter setting.
How could that be if
Hello Stefan Tanurkov everyone else,
on 31-Okt-2005 at 22:20 you (Stefan Tanurkov) wrote:
Alt+L is not supposed to reformat paragraph because paragraphs are
always formatted there.
That makes no sense.
Oh, yes it does. Paragraph alignment settings are sticky in HTML
Yes, in HTML, thats
Hello Alto,
I see - another design fault, therefore. There's a lesson in here.
In any case, thanks for explaining the system to me.
OK, let's stop here. I suspect we will never come to an agreement on what is
this - a bug, a mammal or a mythical creature. I know we're going to
make a new
Hello Thomas,
M This was just let's say a 'concept suggestion' for Stephan which could
M be implemented transparently to the user.
Oh, I thought you wanted the user to use that macro.
Macro is just another option for better flexibility (e.g. adding it to AB
templates). As you know, some macro
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else,
on 01-Nov-2005 at 03:00 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote:
This editor already can do what you explain MicroEd can't do today.
So far, it is you alone who wants MicroEd to behave differently. You
consider it a bug, others (including the programmers) consider it
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