Re[3]: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Xav
Hello Gleason, Saturday, October 13, 2007, 3:08:11 AM, you wrote: Gary, my definition of a production environment is that of using a software product day in and day out individually or within or upon a network of computers *without* problems. Yes, that is what IT types want. I understand

Re: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Sebastian Murawski
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in evening, Marek wrote something like this: So 1. GUI - like in v3 upgrade afaik we can expect huge change in V4, nothing small as themes in V3 OK, but this is still only GUI - maybe big changes but this is still cosmetic thing for

Re: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Vilius Ĺ umskas
Sveiki, Vilius, I guess I am going to have to disagree with that. TB Imap is not perfect, but it is the pick of my list which includes: Execuse me, but TB!'s IMAP is a crap. It's not even in alpha stage. In fact I haven't seen worse IMAP implementation. My students at university write

Re[4]: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/13/2007 6:56 AM Hi Xav, On 10/13/2007 Xav wrote: X Anyone of any type wants or should want a programme that just works. ALL software has some type of limitations, even SecondCopy and Irfanview, two of the best written programs of all time. It is our responsibility to recognize it and set

Re[5]: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Gleason Pace
Paul, It is your responsibility to find the best combination of features and functionality for your customers and it is your responsibility to acknowledge the limitations and learn to work within them. BTW, this is my 20th year as a consultant and database application developer. Some of my

TB Simple MAPI and ActiveSync broken

2007-10-13 Thread Sebastian Murawski
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! When I install TB Simple MAPI I can not open Active Sync Manager, and use internet connection throgh AS and PPC. There is problem with WCESMgr.exe that cant find ordinal number 23 in MAPI32.dll. German WinXP sp2 AS 4.5 -- Thanks and best regards,

Re: thebat.net connection- STARTTLS command

2007-10-13 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Peter, Thursday, October 11, 2007, 7:22:14 PM, you wrote: Peter Hello, Peter I set up an account with thebat.net - I think - successfully. I could send Peter a mail from Peter my personal account through my IP to bat.net. However cannot Peter receive/send mail from the BATNETaccount

Re: thebat.net connection- STARTTLS command

2007-10-13 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Peter, Saturday, October 13, 2007, 10:04:35 AM, you wrote: PK Connected to smtp.gmail.com, port 25 The SMTP settings I use are Secure to regular port (StartTLS) and port 587, and I can send from my account. You might try that. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP

Re[5]: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Xav
Hello Paul, Saturday, October 13, 2007, 12:22:57 PM, you wrote: 10/13/2007 6:56 AM Hi Xav, On 10/13/2007 Xav wrote: X Anyone of any type wants or should want a programme that just works. ALL software has some type of limitations, even SecondCopy and Irfanview, two of the best written

Re: thebat.net connection- STARTTLS command

2007-10-13 Thread Uwe Steinfeld
Hello Peter, On 2007-10-13 you wrote: PK However I cannot send a message from the BAT to the @thebat.net. I set up PK the bat.net as a new account and tried to to send, but it doesn't go. It PK appears that I should use STARTTLS, but have no idea what this is. In addition to Perry's solution

Re[6]: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/13/2007 11:30 AM Hi Xav, On 10/13/2007 Xav wrote: X Not if there is a better alternative, in your case that being not X upgrading to later versions. There are many alternatives including other programs. For example, I will use Foxmail in certain circumstances for specific reasons. X Then

Re[2]: thebat.net connection- STARTTLS command

2007-10-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/13/2007 10:15 AM Hi Peter, On 10/13/2007 Peter Kerekes wrote: PK Hope someone can help me in this. I tried to search this list but did not PK find any solution. See attached screenshot. You must enable SMTP authentication. Set your username as shown and then go the the webmail and

Re: TB Simple MAPI and ActiveSync broken

2007-10-13 Thread Frank Dzicher
Hello Sebastian, hello The Bat! - Betalist, * Sebastian Murawski wrote: When I install TB Simple MAPI I can not open Active Sync Manager, and use internet connection throgh AS and PPC. There is problem with WCESMgr.exe that cant find ordinal number 23 in MAPI32.dll. German WinXP sp2

Re[3]: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Guten Morgen, GP Again, I don't say that TB's Imap is perfect, just a respectable GP effort compared to how others have done. And Ritlabs remains GP commercially viable. I'm impressed. Indeed. So am I, considering what they are offering as a product. -- MfG, Alto

Re: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Saturday, October 13, 2007, Sebastian Murawski wrote: do You really expect all features in 4.0? Do You expect major changes between 3.99 and 4.00? When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I expect really big changes and privately one little bugfix

Re[2]: thebat.net connection- STARTTLS command

2007-10-13 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Perry, Saturday, October 13, 2007, 10:35:04 AM, you wrote: Perry Hi Peter, Perry Saturday, October 13, 2007, 10:04:35 AM, you wrote: PK Connected to smtp.gmail.com, port 25 Perry The SMTP settings I use are Secure to regular port (StartTLS) and port Perry 587, and I can send from my

Beta testing TB

2007-10-13 Thread Peter Hampf
Hello Max, we know each other since many years now and I have a great respect and honour for your work. So, may I take the liberty to ask whether there is a REAL beta test team for TB, other than the open pubic one? You are developing v4 right now - and I guess there must be some

Re[2]: thebat.net connection- STARTTLS command

2007-10-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/13/2007 2:47 PM Hi Peter, On 10/13/2007 Peter Hampf wrote: PVN Set your username as shown PH just curious, I haven't seen this before: What is the meaning of the PH recent: part in your username? I just tried it and paced bla: in front PH of my GMail username. It works. ?? PH Can you

Re: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Paul! I don't get IMAP calls when they use other email clients. Seems you have already found the answer to your problem. ...which comes back to the bottom line of my post which started this subthread: Ritlabs, please add long promised and paid state of the art features MOST mail client big

Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/13/2007 3:16 PM Hi Martin, On 10/13/2007 Martin Sebald wrote: Seems you have already found the answer to your problem. MS Ritlabs, please add long promised and paid state of the art features MOST MS mail client big players offer smootly to your planned state of the art MS interface! I am

Re: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Paul! Seems you have already found the answer to your problem. Ritlabs, please add long promised and paid state of the art features MOST mail client big players offer smootly to your planned state of the art interface! I am confused, you said, please add...state of the art features MOST

Re: thebat.net connection- STARTTLS command

2007-10-13 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Peter, Saturday, October 13, 2007, 2:20:15 PM, you wrote: PK Thank you for the help. It works now both ways. Great. Glad to hear it. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2

Re[2]: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
10/13/2007 3:33 PM Hi Martin, On 10/13/2007 Martin Sebald wrote: MS Also because I'm from the southern part of Germany, to be exactly I'm a MS Swabian. Maybe you heard what is told about us: We look after our money and MS what we paid we want to have. Caveat Emptor must have been left out of

Re: TB Simple MAPI and ActiveSync broken

2007-10-13 Thread Sebastian Murawski
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in evening, Frank wrote something like this: When I install TB Simple MAPI I can not open Active Sync Manager, and use internet connection throgh AS and PPC. There is problem with WCESMgr.exe that cant find ordinal number 23 in

Re: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Sebastian Murawski
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in evening, Marek wrote something like this: do You really expect all features in 4.0? Do You expect major changes between 3.99 and 4.00? When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I expect really big changes and

Re: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Sunday, October 14, 2007, Sebastian Murawski wrote: When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I expect really big changes and privately one little bugfix (regression fix) - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5690. did You paid for upgrade from 3.0 to 3.0.1,

Re: The Bat! 4.0

2007-10-13 Thread Hans Stam
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in evening, Marek wrote something like this: do You really expect all features in 4.0? Do You expect major changes between 3.99 and 4.00? When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I expect really big changes and