POP3 protocol, it is possible to raise the downloading
>> speed by disabling checking spam by headers (top checkbox on Accounts tab in
>> plug-in settings).
I use AntispamSniper plugin and POP3 accounts. Disabling this options raised
download speed by hundreds times.
--
Best regards,
Zygm
Hello all!
I observe this problem since the version 10.3.x. My internet connection is
rather fast (300 Mbit/s) and The Bat! downloads messages from different servers
with a speed of 600 kbit/s. I have checked this on different computers and
different internet connections - the result is the
Title: Re: Re-downloading all the mails, and the POP3 protocol
Hello Lüko,
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 18:29:51 +0100 GMT (27-Mar-19, 0:29 +0700 GMT),
Lüko Willms wrote:
Hello everybody,
on Dienstag, 26. März 2019 at 15:20 Thomas Fernandez wrote
re Re-downloading all the mails, and the POP3
Hello everybody,
on Dienstag, 26. März 2019 at 15:20 Thomas Fernandez
wrote
re Re-downloading all the mails, and the POP3 protocol
My suggestion:
a) on the desktop, keep the number of days you keep messages on the server
relative small;
I do that already. 4 weeks = over 5,000
Title: Re: Re-downloading all the mails, and the POP3 protocol
Hello Lüko,
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 12:43:42 +0100 GMT (26-Mar-19, 18:43 +0700 GMT),
Lüko Willms wrote:
Hello everybody,
on Sonntag, 24. März 2019 at 09:07 Thomas Fernandez wrote
re Re-downloading all the mails
It happens
Hello everybody,
on Sonntag, 24. März 2019 at 09:07 Thomas Fernandez
wrote
re Re-downloading all the mails
It happens with automatic download, I hardly ever use F2. Only on the laptop
that I travel with, not the PC at home.
Isn't the status "READ" of each message stored i
Title: Re: Re-downloading all the mails
Hello Ira,
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 11:40:25 -0700 GMT (26-Mar-19, 01:40 +0700 GMT),
Ira wrote:
Hello Thomas,
Sunday, March 24, 2019, 1:08:26 AM, you wrote:
Hello Ira,
On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 00:08:55 -0700 GMT (24-Mar-19, 14:08 +0700 GMT),
Ira wrote
Title: Re: Re-downloading all the mails
Hello Thomas,
Sunday, March 24, 2019, 1:08:26 AM, you wrote:
Hello Ira,
On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 00:08:55 -0700 GMT (24-Mar-19, 14:08 +0700 GMT),
Ira wrote:
Hello Thomas,
Would be intersting to know whether he also travels a lot. In case you
Title: Re: Re-downloading all the mails
Hello Lüko,
On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 07:05:25 +0100 GMT (24-Mar-19, 13:05 +0700 GMT),
Lüko Willms wrote:
Hello everybody,
on Sonntag, 24. März 2019 at 03:10 Thomas Fernandez wrote
re Re-downloading all the mails
>> Is it possible that th
Title: Re: Re-downloading all the mails
Hello Ira,
On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 00:08:55 -0700 GMT (24-Mar-19, 14:08 +0700 GMT),
Ira wrote:
Hello Thomas,
Friday, March 22, 2019, 9:01:08 PM, you wrote:
Thomas> Ira, are you still here? Does your friend travel a lot?
I am here and I can't
Title: Re: Re-downloading all the mails
Hello Thomas,
Friday, March 22, 2019, 9:01:08 PM, you wrote:
Thomas> Ira, are you still here? Does your friend travel a lot?
I am here and I can't say, he's not complained in a while.
--
Hello everybody,
on Sonntag, 24. März 2019 at 03:10 Thomas Fernandez
wrote
re Re-downloading all the mails
>> Is it possible that the host is the common factor...?
> One of the hosts with which it sometimes (every few months) happens in
> GMX, the biggest internet provider in
Hello Paul,
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 08:26:44 -0400 GMT (23-Mar-19, 19:26 +0700 GMT),
Paul Van Noord wrote:
> 3/23/2019 8:23 AM
> I set a friend up with the Bat and he has this one occasional
> annoying problem. Every once in awhile, The Bat decides to
> download all the mail on the
3/23/2019 8:23 AM
I set a friend up with the Bat and he has this one occasional
annoying problem. Every once in awhile, The Bat decides to
download all the mail on the server instead of just the mail
since the last time the mail was downloaded.
He uses POP3 and has Keep
Hello Thomas,
On Sun, 20 May 2018 10:09:01 +0700 GMT (20-May-18, 10:09 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
> Hello list,
> On Thu, 10 May 2018 06:35:59 +0700 GMT (10-May-18, 06:35 +0700 GMT),
> Thomas Fernandez wrote:
>> Hello Ira,
>> On Wed, 9 May 2018 09:56:43 -0700 GMT (09-May-18, 23:56
Hello list,
On Thu, 10 May 2018 06:35:59 +0700 GMT (10-May-18, 06:35 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
> Hello Ira,
> On Wed, 9 May 2018 09:56:43 -0700 GMT (09-May-18, 23:56 +0700 GMT),
> Ira wrote:
>> I set a friend up with the Bat and he has this one occasional
>> annoying problem. Every
Hello Ira,
On Wed, 9 May 2018 09:56:43 -0700 GMT (09-May-18, 23:56 +0700 GMT),
Ira wrote:
> I set a friend up with the Bat and he has this one occasional
> annoying problem. Every once in awhile, The Bat decides to
> download all the mail on the server instead of just the mail
> since the last
Hello Maxim,
Sometimes, TB! decides to download all mails that have already been
downloaded, for one account or another. It concerns POP-accounts only
(over here, at least).
This has been happening for several versions, a friend of mine just
complained about this for v5, another one
Hello Rick,
Friday, October 7, 2011, 8:29:42 PM, you wrote:
I will confirm it again. I just sent Maxim an MBOX file with a message
that stops the Bat for about 30 seconds, even to the point where the title
bar icon turns into a white box
Thank you, this message is loading slowly not
Hello all,
Saturday, October 8, 2011, Maxim Masiutin wrote:
I will confirm it again. I just sent Maxim an MBOX file with a message
that stops the Bat for about 30 seconds, even to the point where the title
bar icon turns into a white box
Thank you, this message is loading slowly not
Hello,
when TB downloads external messages, there is radical slowdown and TB
almost stops working until they are downloaded, many users reported it
and I can confirm too.
I have increased number of connections, but it did not helped.
Any idea how to solve this if any?
--
Thanks and Bye,
Hello,
when TB downloads external messages, there is radical slowdown and TB
almost stops working until they are downloaded, many users reported it
and I can confirm too.
I have increased number of connections, but it did not helped.
Any idea how to solve this if any?
I will confirm it
Hello,
today I have received two large messages (30MB and 10M) to GMAIL account
and even I have deleted messages from folder, those reappeared again and
when I checked Connection Centre, downloading task for deleted message was
still active - while task can not be deleted from IMAP Queue yet, I
Hi,
Monday, April 4, 2011, 11:13:59 PM, you wrote:
Hello,
today I have received two large messages (30MB and 10M) to GMAIL account
and even I have deleted messages from folder, those reappeared again and
when I checked Connection Centre, downloading task for deleted message was
still active
Where can I download the latest beta version of TB!?
TIA
--
Douglas Hinds
Current beta is 4.0.34.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Title: Re: Downloading
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, at 02:33:18 [GMT -0400] (which was 8:33 where I
live) Douglas Hinds wrote:
Where can I download the latest beta version of TB!?
TIA
--
Douglas Hinds
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb403415.rar
--
Henk M. de
Hello Bat People,
For a couple of recent versions, I've noticed that emails on from
certain mailing lists would show up in MailWasher but would not be
downloaded into TB. At my next mail check the same message was still
on my ISP's server as a new message. The only way I can get rid of the
Hello Richard
For a couple of recent versions, I've noticed that emails on from
certain mailing lists would show up in MailWasher but would not be
downloaded into TB
Do you use any antispam plugin?
--
Best regards,
Andrew
Current
think
TB isn't downloading them.
--
Best regards,
Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Using The Bat! v4.0.26.4 on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3
Current beta is 4.0.26.3 | 'Using
Hello Richard
Yes, Antispamsniper for The Bat v 2.8.1.1 but I don't see any trace
that these emails are being blocked or even handled by Antispamsniper.
And I don't think Antispamsniper is processing these because I think
TB isn't downloading them.
Yeah, as I thought. In its settings
Hello Andrew,
Monday, July 28, 2008, 2:29:35 PM, you wrote:
AG In its settings in the Servers tab inside the account properties
AG there is a checkbox for POP3 'Store the copies of messages deleted
AG by headers on the server, for allowing undeleting the false
AG positives'. That should give you
Hello Richard
I unchecked the box (I assumed that is what you meant) and there is no
difference in behavior. We should I be looking for an explanation?
Sorry for being so dense on this.
The plug-in optionally leaves copies of messages deleted by headers on
the server. It possible to restore
Hello Andrew,
I think our conversation isn't Beta related and as such will be
responding to you via private email.
--
Best regards,
Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Using The Bat! v4.0.26.4 on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack 3
Hello Tbbeta,
I just noticed something in the version that doesn't seem right. If
you abort the downloading of messages and answer yes to wait for the
currently incoming message to be completed, and then try to close TB.
TB closes without waiting for the message to finish. Prior versions
would
Hello all,
I was downloading some 60 messages from an account (actually a newsgroup
via MyGate) when suddenly both the CC and TB vanished with no errors
or even 'sounds'. Upon re-starting, everything is working fine as usual.
As far as I can recall, it is the first time I see something like
Hello all,
Thursday, January 17, 2008, Jens Franik wrote:
First of all, interface should be similar like in other apps like
Firefox/Internet Explorer
Dont do the same Errors again, the URLmanager is not an
Infoline showing this item has been blocked - it is for
managing the behavior and
Guten Tag Marek Mikus,
am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2008 um 08:21 schrieben Sie:
I have tested interface for downloading images on some basic users and GUI
is hard to understand for them.
ACK
First of all, interface should be similar like in other apps like
Firefox/Internet Explorer
Dont do
Guten Tag Peter Gannushkin,
am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2008 um 17:04 schrieben Sie:
Other suggestion is to make URL manager folder aware. E.g. never
download any images in Spam folder. Spammers are often using images
from legitimate sources which helps them to get through filters. If
there will
Guten Tag Marek Mikus,
am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 um 23:40 schrieben Sie:
First of all, interface should be similar like in other apps like
Firefox/Internet Explorer
Dont do the same Errors again, the URLmanager is not an
Infoline showing this item has been blocked - it is for
managing
Guten Tag Marek Mikus,
am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2008 um 13:07 schrieben Sie:
I did not write about displaying url manager in on-line pane, check root
message of this thread :-)
Ok, if you want only display some URLs are blocked and
show URLmanager as a info, this might be a good idea.
--
Mit
Hello Marek,
First of all, interface should be similar like in other apps like
Firefox/Internet Explorer, so yellow pane (like new Search introduced in
4.0.0.9 alpha) will appear in Preview pane, if message requires downloading
external images.
I personally prefer a window, like now
Hello all,
Wednesday, January 16, 2008, MAU wrote:
First of all, interface should be similar like in other apps like
Firefox/Internet Explorer, so yellow pane (like new Search introduced in
4.0.0.9 alpha) will appear in Preview pane, if message requires downloading
external images.
I
Hello Marek,
And why it can not be the same easy like in many internet apps, for example
ie, opera, firefox, tbird etc.
I haven't looked at Opera in many years, and I have never even tried
Firefox or TBird. Call me lazy if you wish ;-)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Hello Marek,
I haven't looked at Opera in many years, and I have never even tried
Firefox or TBird. Call me lazy if you wish ;-)
so You do not like how ie does it or You use Safari or other browser? ;-)
I use IE. But I think I'm a little lost. What do you mean when you say
You do not like
Hello all,
Wednesday, January 16, 2008, MAU wrote:
I haven't looked at Opera in many years, and I have never even tried
Firefox or TBird. Call me lazy if you wish ;-)
so You do not like how ie does it or You use Safari or other browser? ;-)
I use IE. But I think I'm a little lost. What do
Hello all,
Wednesday, January 16, 2008, MAU wrote:
I use IE. But I think I'm a little lost. What do you mean when you say
You do not like how IE does it. IE does what?
I like new Search pane implemented in viewer since 4.0.0.9 and this is why
I ask about this for such purpose, because it is
On Wednesday, January 16, 2008, 4:57:13 AM, MAU wrote:
And why it can not be the same easy like in many internet apps, for
example ie, opera, firefox, tbird etc.
I haven't looked at Opera in many years, and I have never even tried
Firefox or TBird. Call me lazy if you wish ;-)
You are like
Hello Marek,
I use IE. But I think I'm a little lost. What do you mean when you say
You do not like how IE does it. IE does what?
displays yellow pane above preview with problem description, like popup was
blocked, server requires flash plugin etc.
OK, understand now. But that is a one line
Hello all,
Wednesday, January 16, 2008, MAU wrote:
And why it can not be the same easy like in many internet apps, for example
ie, opera, firefox, tbird etc.
I haven't looked at Opera in many years, and I have never even tried
Firefox or TBird. Call me lazy if you wish ;-)
so You do not
Hello all,
Wednesday, January 16, 2008, MAU wrote:
OK, understand now. But that is a one line only pane, at least with
the window size I use on my big screen. But the URL manager would need much
more screen space. But my opinion should not count for this issue, I
I did not write about
Hello Marek,
I did not write about displaying url manager in on-line pane, check root
message of this thread :-)
Sorry, I read too fast and misunderstood you.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.0.0.11 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2
Hello Marek,
MM First of all, interface should be similar like in other apps like
MM Firefox/Internet Explorer, so yellow pane (like new Search introduced in
MM 4.0.0.9 alpha) will appear in Preview pane, if message requires downloading
MM external images.
That is a great suggestion. One
Hello all,
Wednesday, January 16, 2008, Peter Gannushkin wrote:
I would also add second and third level domains to the list of hosts
to allow downloading / blocking all images for certain subdomains.
E.g. anything from *.amazon.com or *.bbc.co.uk can be allowed while
*.somespamdomain.com can
I put them up on freecycle
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
-Original Message-
From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:11:06
To:tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com
Subject: Re: Rework of downloading images GUI
Hello all,
Wednesday, January 16, 2008, Peter Gannushkin wrote
Hello,
I have tested interface for downloading images on some basic users and GUI
is hard to understand for them.
First of all, interface should be similar like in other apps like
Firefox/Internet Explorer, so yellow pane (like new Search introduced in
4.0.0.9 alpha) will appear in Preview pane
Hello all,
Friday, December 28, 2007, Marek Mikus wrote:
It happens allways, but not after same ammount of messages in one session,
this is unexpectable.
I have almost 15 HTML messages with missing images and when I delete
urlmgr.xml and start selecting messages, TB stopps downloading
Hello,
It happens allways, but not after same ammount of messages in one session,
this is unexpectable.
I have almost 15 HTML messages with missing images and when I delete
urlmgr.xml and start selecting messages, TB stopps downloading mimages
after 3rd, 4th, sometimes after 5th message - URL
Hi,
after moving back to Germany I tried to download all messages from the
mailinglists. With MailWasher I see all messages, but after downloading with
TheBat I get only a few of these messages because TheBat closes automatically.
Why? What can I do?
I have only changed the version of TheBat
Hello Roland Burger everyone else,
on 22-Okt-2006 at 09:54 you (Roland Burger) wrote:
after moving back to Germany I tried to download all messages from
the mailinglists. With MailWasher I see all messages, but after
downloading with TheBat I get only a few of these messages because
TheBat
Howdy Alexander,
Sunday, October 22, 2006, 9:58:41 AM, Alexander wrotened:
after moving back to Germany I tried to download all messages from
the mailinglists. With MailWasher I see all messages, but after
downloading with TheBat I get only a few of these messages because
TheBat closes
Hi Benedict,
on Sunday, October 22, 2006 at 11:43 you wrote in message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
among others:
after moving back to Germany I tried to download all messages from
the mailinglists. With MailWasher I see all messages, but after
downloading with TheBat I get only a few
Hello all,
Sunday, October 22, 2006, Roland Burger wrote:
after moving back to Germany I tried to download all messages from the
mailinglists. With MailWasher I see all messages, but after downloading
with TheBat I get only a few of these messages because TheBat closes
automatically. Why
Hello Vili,
On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 16:26:44 -0400 GMT (02/07/2006, 03:26 +0700 GMT),
Vili wrote:
From mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
GMM Downloading images from html content is by default disabled. Then there
is the
GMM following options
GMM * The sender matches a white list
GMM * The sender matches
Hi Marek,
On Tue, 10 May 2005, at 01:09:57 [GMT +0200] (which was 1:09 where I live)
you wrote about: 'WISH: Skip downloading this message'
OK, so I usually download POP messages instead of using the
dispatcher.
But sometimes there is a 3MB I just don't care to download. I see the
progress
Hello, Robert!
What could be possible is to abort the POP3 connection, remember the id of
the large message, reconnect and skip the large message.
This is not very friendly but it will work.
I think no.
If you *aborting*, next try will give you error already logged \
another pop-session
Hello tbbeta,
OK, so I usually download POP messages instead of using the
dispatcher.
But sometimes there is a 3MB I just don't care to download. I see the
progress in the Download Messenger and it takes forever on my dial-up
connection. I wish there where a button skip and go to the next
there where a button skip and go to the next
nmessage.
Seconders?
this is impossible using POP3 protocol, when is downloading process
started, no other commands are possible.
--
Bye
Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz
Using the best The Bat! 3.5 Return RC6
under Windows
Hello Marek,
On Tue, 10 May 2005 01:09:57 +0200 GMT (10/05/2005, 06:09 +0700 GMT),
Marek Mikus wrote:
MM this is impossible using POP3 protocol, when is downloading process
MM started, no other commands are possible.
I didn't know. Thanks for clarifying.
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
Steffi Graf hatte
Hæ!
It seems I can confirm Nick's problem.
I had to download the mail multiple times to get all messages from the
mail server. I doubt it has anything to do with my filters, because I
checked them when I rolled v3 over my previous v2 installation.
--
Kveðja!
Thorvald Neumann |
Well, out of desperation, I took other User's advice and basically turned
off all my filters, and then tried downloading my messages. I think I had
somewhere around 150 ready to download, and before this moment it would have
taken 6 or 7 attempts to get them all.
With the changes I made to my
Hello Paul!
On Sunday, July 11, 2004 at 4:47:46 PM you wrote:
if you get them at all, you still have to trust a web site. How do we
know some of those smilies don't have web bots in them now??
Yip, I wrote that. And I answered the question myself, didn't I?
--
Dierk Haasis
:Dierk: Copy
Hello All,
Using auto-downloading of rogues/smileys since RC/3 needs basic magic
knowledge. So, here is the first spell for whom wants to be a mage :))
Create file auto-load-urls.txt in program dir
Add the following line to it:
http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/getrogue.php
Restart program
Just
Hello 9Val,
Saturday, July 10, 2004, 10:07:55 PM, you wrote:
9 Using auto-downloading of rogues/smileys since RC/3 needs basic magic
9 knowledge.
Will it be explained in the Care of Magical Creatures lessons? :)))
Thanks for the hint.
Ciao,
luigi
--
Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/3
on Windows
Hello 9Val,
Saturday, July 10, 2004, 2:07:55 PM, you wrote:
9Val Just to see it is not enough, so test it ;)
Worked fine over here on two machines.
--
Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user).
Tagline of the day:
If I had something funny to say, I'd say it here.
Using The Bat!
Hello TBBeta,
I seem to have overcome my Rogue issues by erasing the listings
in the PDFS2.msl and restarting. All works perfectly now
regardless of whether a sender is in my ADB, in my ADB with
photo, or none of the above.
If I had to guess, it looked like a struggle for rogue image
rights
* NetVicious [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm looking for some weeks ago the progressbar on the Connection
Center jumps from 0% to 100% when downloading messages by pop3
protocol (I don't tested it using an IMAP connection). It could be
seen better if we are receiving a large
I'm looking for some weeks ago the progressbar on the Connection
Center jumps from 0% to 100% when downloading messages by pop3
protocol (I don't tested it using an IMAP connection). It could be
seen better if we are receiving a large message.
I think this bug was started
Hello Kevin,
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 00:07:54 -0500 GMT (24/01/2004, 12:07 +0700 GMT),
Kevin Coates wrote:
I received an error while downloading mail with the new beta. This
hasn't happened before. The message was:
Access violation at address 00404250 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of
address
For reasons that escape me, TB 2.01.20 seems to be exceptionally slow in
processing downloaded Mail. For example, if I have 600 messages to
download, TB will process those messages at a rate of about 2 per
second, so that within 4 minutes those 600 messages have been
downloaded.
After that
Hello Nick,
A reminder of what Nick Andriash typed on:
04 November 2003 at 07:15:45 GMT -0700
NA Could such long delays be the result of the BayesIt! Plugin examining
NA all those messages?
3,000 messages? Could it be your over subscribed? I know you went to a
rather elite school but do
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hello Alexander,
On Thu, 4 Oct 2001 19:43:45 +0600 GMT (04/10/2001, 21:43 +0800 GMT),
Alexander Leschinsky wrote:
TF One of the servers where I distinctly remember that I
TF redownloaded tens of messages each time, was GMX Free, on which I
TF
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Thursday, October 04, 2001 at 12:12:13 AM ,
Thomas F wrote about Downloading mail - suggestion:
I don't use a crappy dial-up network connection
Mine isn't either, usually, but sometimes, heat may make the
copper to expand, rain may get some water
, next connection
MDaemon issue UIDL command again, but before downloading MDaemon
will check/compare to previous record.
If the record match, MDaemon will not redownload the messages,
instead he re-issue DELE command for those messages.
Note: STAT is old fashioned POP protocol
Hello Syafril,
On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 10:19:12 +0700GMT (05/10/2001, 11:19 +0800GMT),
Syafril Hermansyah wrote:
SH Till now, I really like the way MDaemon DomainPOP Engine to handle
SH this stuff :
SH - at first, MDaemon will issue UIDL (instead of STAT as TB! did on
SH normal mode), to
On 30-07-2001 at 19:17:56 (GMT +0800) (which was 12:17 where I live)
Thomas F wrote regarding the subject of Downloading Messages-feature request
Using: The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/4) Personal
Hello Thomas,
TF If the message is bigger than xxx KB, download the header only, and
TF *leave the message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Monday, July 30, 2001, 1:46:51 PM, -=/ Cees /=- wrote:
Duh... how about a firewall and anti virusscanner?
Duh! How'bout understanding my request. I'm not infected with it
and I run ZoneAlarm but downloading tons of infected mail isn't
my cup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Monday, July 30, 2001, 2:17:56 PM, Thomas F wrote:
If the message is bigger than xxx KB, download the header
only, and *leave the message on server* regardless of the
settings in the account properties.
With this downloaded header, provide a
87 matches
Mail list logo
