Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-17 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Stuart, On 15-02-2013 14:57, you wrote in mid:126478226.20130215075...@fastmail.fm: Unfortunately I can confirm that IMAP filters are not 100% consistent. I have not filed a bug report because I cannot nail down any pattern. I have reported it on this list several times, but there does not

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-17 Thread Peter Fjelsten
On 17-02-2013 14:29, I wrote in mid:61917798.20130217142...@fjelsten.dk: Some filters (move from inbox to sub folder and assign colour group) work on and off whereas others - a common filter that marks all messages in certain folders (spam folders in all accounts) has never worked. -

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-17 Thread scuddy
Hello Peter, A reminder of what Peter Fjelsten typed on: Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 14:29:27 GMT +0100 Unfortunately I can confirm that IMAP filters are not 100% consistent. I have not filed a bug report because I cannot nail down any pattern. I have reported it on this list several

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-16 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello Dwight, I do almost all my filtering server side, so have no experience to confirm or cast doubt. I have access to maildrop on some of my accounts, so it is an option for me. What do you use on what type of server? -- Best regards, Tony

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-16 Thread Vilmos Kertesz
*VK 1. Where is a cookie error? *,--/ \ | Cannot open file C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\Application Data\The Bat!\cookies\quotes.txt `-8--- I see. Did not pay attention. BTW: ,--/ \ | I am scientist, I *believe* in facts. `-8--- An humble

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-16 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello Vilmos, 2. I replied to Tony's saying that he is reluctant to reinstall filters... If I would have 22 accounts and a very complicated filter system, I would save it every day... (Copying my TB dir and saving the reg. entry)   I think you hit the nail on the head. Copy the whole lot. I

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-16 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello gandalfmeister, Are you using an IMAP or POP3 account? IMAP on gmail. Perhaps its just because it is so slow? (takes ... I do still have one POP3 account at TheBat.net. Must have missed it in my rush for IMAP. However, I have created a test filter, sent a test message and the filter

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-16 Thread Vilmos Kertesz
I think you hit the nail on the head. Copy the whole lot. I was using TB! backups until a while ago when I reported that it wouldn't restore. I then got forgetful/complacent as each beta seemed harmless. What branches on the registry do you back up? I can't see much to save in there

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-16 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Vilmos, Saturday, February 16, 2013, 1:30:01 PM, you wrote: VK ,--/ \ VK | I am scientist, I believe in facts. VK `-8--- VK An humble scientist, that's nice for a change! :-) VK VK I dont think you care what kind of scientist makes you a better, more effective Li ion

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-16 Thread Vilmos Kertesz
No idea what you talk about. On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Mark Partous m...@partous.com wrote: Hello Vilmos, Saturday, February 16, 2013, 1:30:01 PM, you wrote: VK ,--/ \ VK | I am scientist, I believe in facts. VK `-8--- VK An humble scientist, that's nice for a

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-16 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Saturday, February 16, 2013, 3:56:15 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: I have access to maildrop on some of my accounts, so it is an option for me. What do you use on what type of server? Fastmail. I think cyrus -- Dwight A. Corrin h: 316.303.9385 c: 316.207.6581 dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Tony Hoare
BTW, it's still broken in 5.3.8 and I have to manually re-filter this message into my TBBETA folder. More info: This is definitely something to do with TB! generally. I previously though it was one account not being filtered but I have another account that is also not being automatically

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread MAU
Hello Tony, Does any else have the same problem? I have no problem at all with any filters. But all my accounts are POP3, none IMAP. I don't know if that makes a difference. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.3.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Vilmos Kertesz
Does any else have the same problem? I am reluctant to reinstall as I have 22 accounts (don't ask) an more than fifty filers, some quite complex. The solution is: DON'T USE/TEST beta versions if you can't handle what comes with it. Vili

Re[2]: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/15/2013 7:07 AM Hi Vilmos, Isn't it amazing how the obvious becomes obscure... Take Care, Paul === Your Message Below === Received From: Vilmos Kertesz macas...@gmail.com On: 2/15/2013 6:55 AM Does any else have the same problem? I am reluctant to reinstall

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello Vilmos, The solution is: DON'T USE/TEST beta versions if you can't handle what comes with it. If you look at my signature, you'll see that it is the released version. Gandalfmeister's original message that started this thread was also a release version. Do you think that the beta has

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello MAU, I have no problem at all with any filters. But all my accounts are POP3, none IMAP. I don't know if that makes a difference. All of my accounts are IMAP. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.8

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread MAU
Hello Tony, I have no problem at all with any filters. But all my accounts are POP3, none IMAP. I don't know if that makes a difference. All of my accounts are IMAP. OK, that makes a difference. But there are other list members using IMAP and they don't seem to have the same problem. Ay

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Vilmos Kertesz
The solution is: DON'T USE/TEST beta versions if you can't handle what comes with it. If you look at my signature, you'll see that it is the released version. Gandalfmeister's original message that started this thread was also a release version. I checked your signature before I sent

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Stuart
Hello MAU, Friday, February 15, 2013, 7:43:29 AM, you wrote: I have no problem at all with any filters. But all my accounts are POP3, none IMAP. I don't know if that makes a difference. All of my accounts are IMAP. OK, that makes a difference. But there are other list members using IMAP

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello Vilmos, All I am saying is that testing beta (but honestly guys, even the released TB) versions requires extra caution... You have to backup, backup and backup TB. If your mails/mailer are important. If you would have done that, you would just go back to your backup file.   Vili Now

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Rick
The solution is: DON'T USE/TEST beta versions if you can't handle what comes with it. The issue isn't HANDLING it - he is reporting an issue -- Rick Cannot open file C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\Application Data\The Bat!\cookies\quotes.txt v5.3.8.1 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Using all POP

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Vilmos Kertesz
Nicely cut quote. Please read again what I replied to. You did not read that I guess. On Feb 15, 2013 1:43 PM, Rick rg...@grunwalds.com wrote: The solution is: DON'T USE/TEST beta versions if you can't handle what comes with it. The issue isn't HANDLING it - he is reporting an issue -- Rick

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Rick
Nicely cut quote. Please read again what I replied to. You did not read that I guess. I read it. Thanks for pointing out the cookie error. And I don't mind you top posting :))) -- Rick Why do you think Wall Street is pushing Republicans to privatize Medicare, Social Security, etc? It's not

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Vilmos Kertesz
Ok, then I continue top posting. I sent the previous mail from my phone, that is why the top posting happened. But it seems it is ok anyways. Rick: I am scientist, I believe in facts. Here is my original answer between ***-s: *** Does any else have the same problem? I am reluctant to reinstall

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Friday, February 15, 2013, 4:51:52 AM, Tony Hoare wrote: Does any else have the same problem? I am reluctant to reinstall as I have 22 accounts (don't ask) an more than fifty filers, some quite complex. I do almost all my filtering server side, so have no experience to confirm or

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Vilmos, Friday, February 15, 2013, 10:39:07 PM, you wrote: VK 1. Where is a cookie error? ,--/ \ | Cannot open file C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\Application Data\The Bat!\cookies\quotes.txt `-8--- BTW: ,--/ \ | I am scientist, I believe in facts.

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-15 Thread Rick
Ok, then I continue top posting. I sent the previous mail from my phone, that is why the top posting happened. But it seems it is ok anyways. I was playing a bit - I thought you were referring to the broken cookie macro which I fixed. ( you had said something about a nice cut quote and of

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-12 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello Rick, I use anti spam sniper plugin and was having a lot of false positives. I cleared the training database which will of course create a few more as it relearns, but the problem is solved It's not the detection of spam because that is done on the server and SPAM headers are set. It's

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-12 Thread Tony Hoare
It's not the detection of spam because that is done on the server and SPAM headers are set. It's just that TB! won't automatically filter the spam into the correct folder. I have to do it manually. BTW, it's still broken in 5.3.8 and I have to manually re-filter this message into my TBBETA

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-11 Thread Steven P Vallière
gandalfmeister, Saturday, December 22, 2012, 10:44:35 AM, you wrote: g None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into g my dedicated folder. If I manually refilter the inbox g - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? I can confirm that several (but not all) of my filters have

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-10 Thread Tony Hoare
I hope RIT can fix this soon as I can now see how much SPAM I'm getting because I have to filter it manually. It didn't seem quite so bad when TB! was doing it for me. Bugtrack created: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=152 -- Best regards, Tony

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-10 Thread Rick
I hope RIT can fix this soon as I can now see how much SPAM I'm getting because I have to filter it manually. It didn't seem quite so bad when TB! was doing it for me. I use anti spam sniper plugin and was having a lot of false positives. I cleared the training database which will of

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-07 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello gandalfmeister, None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? Confirmed. My filtering has been working very well until the last few days. Now, no messages. are

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-07 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello gandalfmeister, None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? Confirmed. My filtering has been working very well until the last few days. Now, no messages. are

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-07 Thread Tony Hoare
Update: still broken. I have reverted back to SSL (so Kaspersky can't see inside) but incoming filtering is still broken. P.S. Kasperksy AV AS plugins are also completely removed. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.3.6.2 (BETA)

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2013-02-07 Thread Tony Hoare
Update: still broken. I have reverted back to SSL (so Kaspersky can't see inside) but incoming filtering is still broken. P.S. Kasperksy AV AS plugins are also completely removed. I hope RIT can fix this soon as I can now see how much SPAM I'm getting because I have to filter it manually.

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2012-12-26 Thread gandalfmeister
Hello Roelof, Sunday, December 23, 2012, 4:04:57 PM, you wrote: You might try clearing your imap cache: Nope it didn't make a difference - still randomly leaving messages in the inbox - and not just for tbbeta stuff either. Refiltered the inbox - and 15 messages were moved?? Filter for TBB

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2012-12-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Dwight, On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:15:11 -0600GMT (23-12-2012, 17:15 , where I live), you wrote: Your imap cache is located in that directory, delete all files in that directory. Most problems with regard to that imap account will be solved after clearing the cache. DAC Showing my

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2012-12-25 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Dwight, On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:18:38 +0100GMT (26-12-2012, 0:18 , where I live), I wrote: RO Yes, they will still be flagged. RO I didn't know either, as I don't flag many messages, so I tried it. RO And the results were positive. RO Now that I'm typing this, I realise that I diodn't check

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2012-12-23 Thread gandalfmeister
Hello Roelof, Saturday, December 22, 2012, 9:00:29 PM, you wrote: They're filtered just fine over here. Are you using an IMAP or POP3 account? IMAP on gmail. Perhaps its just because it is so slow? (takes several minutes to filter incoming mail..) could be that if I've read it in the inbox

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2012-12-23 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Graham, On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:18:51 +GMT (23-12-2012, 10:18 , where I live), you wrote: They're filtered just fine over here. Are you using an IMAP or POP3 account? GF IMAP on gmail. Perhaps its just because it is so slow? (takes GF several minutes to filter incoming mail..)

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2012-12-23 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Sunday, December 23, 2012, 10:04:57 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: Your imap cache is located in that directory, delete all files in that directory. Most problems with regard to that imap account will be solved after clearing the cache. Showing my ignorance, will my flagged messages still be

Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2012-12-22 Thread gandalfmeister
None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? --- Thx Graham Message reply created with The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2012-12-22 Thread MAU
Hello gandalfmeister, None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? Working fine here. Your message and a few others were moved correctly -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2012-12-22 Thread Ivan Pozdeev
None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? --- Thx Graham Message reply created with The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition) under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service

Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

2012-12-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Graham, On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 15:44:35 +GMT (22-12-2012, 16:44 , where I live), you wrote: GF None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated GF folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. Anyone confirm? Cannot confirm. They're

Re: message filtering

2011-11-24 Thread Chris Wilson
Good day beta list members, Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 2:02:19 PM, you wrote: Hi Thomas, GG The sorting office filtering does not work properly; GG my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 GG don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the GG old ones. Just a

Re: message filtering

2011-11-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gunivortus, On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:02:19 +0100 GMT (22/Nov/11, 21:02 PM +0700 GMT), Gunivortus Goos wrote: Just a question: Are you using POP or IMAP? GG POP3. Never used IMAP, nor do I have any plans to do that. GG After creating the filters new, they're working... knocking on wood...

Re: message filtering

2011-11-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Chris, On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:37:44 + GMT (24/Nov/11, 18:37 PM +0700 GMT), Chris Wilson wrote: CW I have had a crash and my BAT backup on this PC doesn't contain some recently CW created filters. I have a current backup on another PC, which file CW holds the filters, and can I just

Re: message filtering

2011-11-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:48:33 +0100 GMT (21/Nov/11, 14:48 PM +0700 GMT), Gunivortus Goos wrote: GG The sorting office filtering does not work properly; GG my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 GG don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the GG

Re: message filtering

2011-11-22 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hi Thomas, GG The sorting office filtering does not work properly; GG my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 GG don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the GG old ones. Just a question: Are you using POP or IMAP? POP3. Never used IMAP, nor do I have any

Re: message filtering

2011-11-21 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:48:33 +0100GMT (21-11-2011, 8:48 , where I live), you wrote: GG The sorting office filtering does not work properly; GG my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 GG don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the GG old

Re: message filtering

2011-11-21 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hi Roelof, GG The sorting office filtering does not work properly; GG my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 GG don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the GG old ones. It's possible that they're caught by other filters. Generally it's best to make

Re: message filtering

2011-11-21 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:35:44 +0100GMT (21-11-2011, 11:35 , where I live), you wrote: When that doesn't help there's a problem going on. GG Yes, it is sigh. Are the problem messages received by the account that you're using to filter them or are they moved from one

Re: message filtering

2011-11-21 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hi Roelof, Are the problem messages received by the account that you're using to filter them or are they moved from one account to another and deo you want to filter them in the new account? No, they're staying in the same account, they just should be moved from the inbox to a folder under

Re: message filtering

2011-11-21 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:14:17 +0100GMT (21-11-2011, 12:14 , where I live), you wrote: GG In the sorting office window, all my older filters (since v4 and earlier) are GG shown bluecolored, all new ones are black. GG Does that say something? Yes. It says they're not active. You

Re: message filtering

2011-11-21 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hi Roelof, GG In the sorting office window, all my older filters (since v4 and earlier) are GG shown bluecolored, all new ones are black. GG Does that say something? Yes. It says they're not active. You can change that in the options tab of the fiter. ...grin If it was just that easy.

Re: message filtering

2011-11-21 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:43:11 +0100GMT (21-11-2011, 12:43 , where I live), you wrote: GG All those blackcolored filters are checked as active and under 'options' this is GG confirmed. My black filters are inactive. So let's try to set them to inactive, close TB, start TB

Re: message filtering

2011-11-21 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hi Roelof, GG All those blackcolored filters are checked as active and under 'options' this is GG confirmed. My black filters are inactive. So let's try to set them to inactive, close TB, start TB again and set them to active. I've deleted four of those filters, closed and restarted TB and

Re: message filtering

2011-11-21 Thread Uwe Steinfeld
Hello Gunivortus, Monday, November 21, 2011, 5:45:57 PM, you wrote: I've deleted four of those filters, closed and restarted TB and created those filters again with exactly the same arguments. Although they're still blackcolored and active, these four do work now at least a couple of

Re: message filtering

2011-11-21 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gunivortus, On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:14:17 +0100GMT (21-11-2011, 12:14 , where I live), you wrote: I went back a few messages. How many filters have you got? Is it an option to re-create the sorting office for this account? GG About 20 in one account, other accounts have fewer.

Re: message filtering

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Asenbauer
Hi Gunivortus, Monday, November 21, 2011, 8:48:33 AM, you wrote: The filters look like: header - contains (all) - (emailaddress of mailing list) As actions: move to the folder (name of folder) Any suggestion how I can get them working? Just an idea: Try to use a slightly different

message filtering

2011-11-20 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hi TBBETA, The sorting office filtering does not work properly; my old filters from v4 work fine, all new ones I made in v5 don't work. Nevertheless, I created them the same as the old ones. The filters look like: header - contains (all) - (emailaddress of mailing list) As actions: move to