Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in Monday evening, Volker wrote something like this:
4. 0.x is not supported anymore too.
do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest bugfix
for 4.0.x was released three weeks ago.
Yes. But there will be no butfixes
Hi Christian,
Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when
not even half the bugs have been fixed from 3.x??
Well, interface got a slight makeover, hasn't it? Makes it a little
harder to read and wastes a little more screen space than before, but
it's
Hi Christian,
Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when
not even half the bugs have been fixed from 3.x??
Years ago, I bought from Rhinosoft their excellent FTP-Server 'Serv-U'. In the
price was one year upgrade guaranteed. (you can also choose for a
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 10:08 schrieb Gunivortus Goos:
My problem with The Bat! there isn't an Open Source alternative yet
Thats not true, i take a look at Thunderbird with Lightning and is has
all basic Features which The_Bat has, at least with extensions.
I did tell very often
Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 15:20:04, you wrote:
Just asking: What is this good for?
There are some servers (not quite usual) that remove a message that have been
retrieved by RETR, so if you will get it from one computer , you will be unable
to also get it on another. This
Hello MAU,
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:07:53 +0100 GMT (31/10/2005, 05:07 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:
M One last thing, in case you happen to know. Moons ago there was a
M discussion in this list about 'irony' and 'sarcasm' but it isn't still
M clear to me what the difference is. Do you know? I ask
Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 16:08:17, you wrote:
If I did, I would have to add the required n parameter too,
wouldn't I?
No, The Bat! does this automatically to retreive a full message.
--
Best regards,
Maxim Masiutinmailto:m...@ritlabs.com
Hi,
The Bat! 4.1.1.5 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4115.rar
UR
--
Best regards,
Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com
--
Using The Bat! v4.1.1.5 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP5 Build 2600 Service Pack
Hello Maxim,
In editing plain text messages, the difference in appearance of the icon for
the on/off options of
Confirm receipt and Reading confirmation are barely
distinguishable.
Perhaps the check mark on the on icons should be green or there
should be a big X over the icon when the
Hello Volker,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:25:59 PM, you wrote:
4.0.x is not supported anymore too.
do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest bugfix
for 4.0.x was released three weeks ago.
Yes. But there will be no butfixes further.
Are there any known *showstoppers* for
Hi,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 1:00:25 PM, you wrote:
What I really expect/want - ROADMAP.
I second that.
--
Best regards,
Robert Tomanekmailto:tbb...@mail.robert.tomanek.org
Current beta is 4.1.1.5 |
[Reply to: »Sebastian Murawski« · 2008-12-16 · 09:17 h (CET)]
Moin, Sebastian!
4. 0.x is not supported anymore too.
do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest
bugfix for 4.0.x was released three weeks ago.
Yes. But there will be no butfixes further.
Are there any known
Is there a way to make a particular Viewer Profile (used in the message
preview
window) to be permanent?
--
Best regards,
Costas
Current beta is 4.1.1.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in Tuesday morning, Volker wrote something like this:
Yes. But there will be no butfixes further.
Are there any known *showstoppers* for that release cycle? I really
cannot remember one …
Maybe:
I think you got me wrong: All the
Hello Maxim,
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:47:19 +0200 GMT (16/12/2008, 20:47 +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:
Just asking: What is this good for?
MM There are some servers (not quite usual) that remove a message
MM that have been retrieved by RETR, so if you will get it from one
MM computer , you
Hello Maxim,
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:51:35 +0200 GMT (16/12/2008, 21:51 +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:
If I did, I would have to add the required n parameter too,
wouldn't I?
MM No, The Bat! does this automatically to retreive a full message.
I see. The total concept looks like a very good
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 11:57 schrieb Maxim Masiutin:
The Bat! 4.1.1.5 RC1 (BETA) is available
Up + Running
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg
The Bat! 4.1.1.5 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3
Windows
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:11:28 +0100, MAU wrote:
The very last paragraph of the forwarded message:
One more last thing. I don't want to start any further discussion with
this message, so don't bother to reply unless you really think you can
point a real alternative for me ;-)
Is even more true
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 12:11 schrieb MAU:
point a real alternative for me ;-)
;-)
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg
The Bat! 4.1.1.5 RC1 (BETA) AntiSpamSniper 3.1.0.3
Windows 2000 5.0
build 2195
[Reply to: »Maxim Masiutin« · 2008-12-16 · 11:57 h (CET)]
Moin, Maxim!
The Bat! 4.1.1.5 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4115.rar
Up and running!
Cheers!
VA
- --
Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana!
QA
I have given up four years ago. I don't want to pay in order to be
used as a guinea pig. If you are happy with it and want to continue
using it, that's fine. But I think you should not try to obfuscate
TheBat's troubles by merely trumpetting its virtues.
Why don't all you unhappy people move
Hello Volker,
The Bat! 4.1.1.5 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4115.rar
Up and running!
Ditto.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.1.1.5 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3
Hello Robert,
What I really expect/want - ROADMAP.
I second that.
Isn't Google Maps good enough? ;-)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.1.1.5 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3
Hello Rick,
Actually this should be discussed on TBOT...
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 5:40:25 PM, you wrote:
R Why don't all you unhappy people move to Thunderbird? It's FREE. It
R has IMAP, FIlters and plugins so you can make it exactly the way you
R want it.
But be warned: the financing of
Why don't all you unhappy people move to Thunderbird?
Well... I'm trying Mozilla Thunderbird 3.0 beta but it's far far away
from TheBat! advanced capabilities...
--
Mackley
I'll stay with TheBat! 4.1.x
Current beta is
The Bat! 4.1.1.5 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4115.rar
What's new in 4.1.1.5 since 4.1.1.4:
[-] (#0007336) Double confirmation to save/abandon changes in an open editor
window on program exit
[+] /POP3FORCETOP command line option to use TOP
Hello Rick,
Actually this should be discussed on TBOT...
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 5:40:25 PM, you wrote:
R Why don't all you unhappy people move to Thunderbird? It's FREE. It
R has IMAP, FIlters and plugins so you can make it exactly the way you
R want it.
But be warned: the financing
On Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 11:32:22 AM, Mackley wrote:
Well... I'm trying Mozilla Thunderbird 3.0 beta but it's far far away
from TheBat! advanced capabilities...
you can try 'em all, but if you've been using TB! you're spoiled.
--
Dwight A. Corrin
316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax
Hello Costas,
Is there a way to make a particular Viewer Profile (used in the message
preview
window) to be permanent?
That I know of, there is not a place where you can easily tick a box to
select the your default. But this what I did when profiles where
introduced to do exactly what you
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:34:31 -0500, Rick wrote:
Well Mozilla has bountiful forums in which to complain. My tongue was
firmly planted in my cheek when I posted that BTW :))
No, your reaction was very silly and also beside the point because
I already stated that I had given up on The Beta! four
Hi Mackley,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 10:32:22 AM, you wrote:
Why don't all you unhappy people move to Thunderbird?
Well... I'm trying Mozilla Thunderbird 3.0 beta but it's far far away
from TheBat! advanced capabilities...
I agree with you completely. The Bat has a great interface and
No, your reaction was very silly and also beside the point because
I already stated that I had given up on The Beta! four years ago,
and if you'd checked the headers of my message you would have seen
that I'm using Forte Agent.
Um ... you are correct, I didn't think to examine your message
Hi Jens,
My problem with The Bat! there isn't an Open Source alternative yet
Thats not true, i take a look at Thunderbird with Lightning and is has
all basic Features which The_Bat has,
Well, we disagree. No problem. :-)
--
Regards,
Gunivortus
Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.4 RC1 (BETA) under
On Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 11:32:22 AM, Mackley wrote:
Well... I'm trying Mozilla Thunderbird 3.0 beta but it's far far away
from TheBat! advanced capabilities...
you can try 'em all, but if you've been using TB! you're spoiled.
I left the Bat and ended up coming back. I share some
Hello Miguel,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:39:48 PM, you wrote (possibly edited):
That I know of, there is not a place where you can easily tick a box to
select the your default.
Thank you for your very informative reply. Not being able to fix a
particular Viewer Profile was something
Hello all,
I think the 3 years old message below fits well with current ongoing
discussions in this list. Of course, my requirements to find a
replacement for TB have grown since the message was sent because, no
matter what some may say, TB has added functionality and improved quite
a bit
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:06:03 -0500, Rick wrote:
Would you kindly condescend to clarify something for my feeble
intelect?
1) You haven't used the bat in 4 years
I still have an old version (v2.12) on one of my computers. I'm
using it periodically with the purpose of archiving the e-mails
that
The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4116.rar
What's new in 4.1.1.6 since 4.1.1.5:
[-] (#0006955) Loading Images in HTML messages caused scrolling back to the
start
[-] (#0007246) Clipboard contents wasn't checked at Sorting Office's
The Bat! 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4116.rar
What's new in 4.1.1.6 since 4.1.1.5:
[-] (#0006955) Loading Images in HTML messages caused scrolling back to the
start
[-] (#0007246) Clipboard contents wasn't checked at Sorting
Hi Max,
What's new in 4.1.1.6 since 4.1.1.5:
[-] (#0006955) Loading Images in HTML messages caused scrolling back to the
start
Fixed.
... Happiness is a having a twit filter.
--
Regards,
Gunivortus
Using The Bat Vs. 4.1.1.6 RC1 (BETA) under Vista Ultimate 32 bit
Hello Maxim,
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:57:59 +0200 GMT (16/12/2008, 17:57 +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:
MM [+] /POP3FORCETOP command line option to use TOP command instead of
RETR on POP3
Just asking: What is this good for?
From RFC1725 we learn:
RETR msg
Arguments:
a
Hi Gunivortus,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 11:44:02 AM, you wrote:
Hi Max,
What's new in 4.1.1.6 since 4.1.1.5:
[-] (#0006955) Loading Images in HTML messages caused scrolling back to the
start
Fixed.
Ditto! U and R.
--
Take Care,
Bob
--
Using The Bat! 4.1.1.6
[Reply to: »Bob Riley« · 2008-12-16 · 20:00 h (CET)]
Moin, Bob!
What's new in 4.1.1.6 since 4.1.1.5:
Ditto! U and R.
Jau, here too!
Cheers!
VA
- --
Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana!
QA mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[tbb]%20
Using The Bat! 4.1.1.6
Hello Maxim,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:29:19 PM, you wrote:
MM What's new in 4.1.1.6 since 4.1.1.5:
MM [-] (#0006955) Loading Images in HTML messages caused scrolling back to the
start
Much more comfortable than before!
MM [+] New macro SETCLIPBOARD that sets the Windows Clipboard to the
Hello Arjan,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:28:30 PM, you wrote:
AdG The reason I'm still lingering on on the The Beta! lists is a
AdG mixture of nostalghia and curiosity.
Nostalgia can be very dangerous. It might lead to the wrong
decisions.
Take for instance Wouter Bos who
Hello Arjan,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:28:30 PM, you wrote:
AdG The reason I'm still lingering on on the The Beta! lists is a
AdG mixture of nostalghia and curiosity.
Nostalgia can be very dangerous. It might lead to the wrong
decisions.
Take for instance Wouter Bos
Hi,
Ritlabs: now that we know that spending some cash for the 4.1 upgrade
is inevitable -- any chance for a Christmas promotion (with reduced
prices), as in previous years?
--
Best regards,
Robert Tomanekmailto:tbb...@mail.robert.tomanek.org
Up and running !
--
Mackley
Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
NO WAY!
Of course not. Since the TheBat developement desaster has been
established (and this tragedy has been going on for years, let noone
say there were no warnings) I've been transitioning the clients I
service away from TheBat, some towards free alternatives like
ThunderBird, some to
Hans... PocoMail is a very bad copy of TheBat! with a very ugly interface... :-(
--
Mackley
who tries every client mailreader for PC Windows !
Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
[Reply to: »Arjan de Groot« · 2008-12-16 · 19:28 h (CET)]
Moin, Arjan!
2) The various releases are all unfinished business as usual
Let's just say The Beta! is an neverending nonstop piece of work
in progress.
… like nearly 100% of all the other software.
Just curious …
Could you please be
beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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[Reply to: »Hans Stam« · 2008-12-16 · 20:43 h (CET)]
Moin, Hans!
Of course not. Since the TheBat developement desaster has been
established (and this tragedy has been going on for years, let noone
say there were no warnings) I've been transitioning the clients I
service away from TheBat,
Hello all,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, Hans Stam wrote:
Pegasus Mail has a very nice, FREE, 4.51 version.
http://community.pmail.com/files/folders/11243/download.aspx
As a registered user of The Bat! I read all the discussions here about
pay or not pay for a new update,
remember: Pegasus
Hello all,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, Hans Stam wrote:
Hans... PocoMail is a very bad copy of TheBat! with a very ugly
interface... :-(
Not agree, besides that, the program has also RSS and newsgroups..
who uses newsgroups today? I have used them since 1999, but for today, this
is a dead
Hello all,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, Robert Tomanek wrote:
Something resembling a proper IMAP implementation? In other words, a
promise that has been made and broken, several times?
developers wrote, new implementation of IMAP will be integrated after 4.1
release, because it uses new index
Hi Marek,
who uses newsgroups today?
I do.
I have used them since 1999, but for today, this is a dead service.
Ehm... I still carry several very usefull newsgroups.
BTW newsgroups can be integrated to The Bat! bia external utility.
I had to throw that away, it didn't work under Vista. So
Hi Hans,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 12:58:10 PM, you wrote:
Hans... PocoMail is a very bad copy of TheBat! with a very ugly
interface... :-(
Not agree, besides that, the program has also RSS and newsgroups..
Like someone else who just posted (Mackley?), I have tried every email
client
Hello Hans,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:58:10 PM, you wrote:
Not agree, besides that, the program has also RSS and newsgroups..
...which both could be implemented via plugins.
I read and post usenet news using The Bat (though I am also user of Forte
Agent and beta tester of it)
I could
Hello Marek,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:07:03 PM, you wrote:
who uses newsgroups today? I have used them since 1999, but for today, this
is a dead service.
I do. As do many people.
BTW newsgroups can be integrated to The Bat! bia external utility.
Agreed. And, this is not a priority
Hi Marek,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 1:08:18 PM, you wrote:
developers wrote, new implementation of IMAP will be integrated after 4.1
release, because it uses new index file format introduced now, so stay
tuned.
I will admit that I quite curious about this upcoming development!
--
Take
Hello all,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, Robert Tomanek wrote:
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:07:03 PM, you wrote:
who uses newsgroups today? I have used them since 1999, but for today, this
is a dead service.
I do. As do many people.
and for which purpose, if I can ask?
BTW newsgroups can
Hello all,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, Mark Partous wrote:
MM What's new in 4.1.1.6 since 4.1.1.5:
MM [-] (#0006955) Loading Images in HTML messages caused scrolling back to
the start
Much more comfortable than before!
agree
MM [+] New macro SETCLIPBOARD that sets the Windows Clipboard to
Hello,
[-] (#0006955) Loading Images in HTML messages caused scrolling back to the
start
Confirmed
Best regards,
--
Juraj Matel
email: j.ma...@atlas.sk
web: www.thebat.sk
Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, at 21:08:18 [GMT +0100] (which was 21:08 where I
live) Marek Mikus wrote:
developers wrote, new implementation of IMAP will be integrated after 4.1
release, because it uses new index file format introduced now, so stay
tuned.
I will, got my registration code 5 minutes ago
Hello Hans,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 2:58:10 PM, you wrote:
Not agree, besides that, the program has also RSS and newsgroups..
FYI, Pocomail is in full beta testing right now. The RSS feature
works very well.
Jerry
--
Best regards,
Ethan
On Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 1:58:10 PM, Hans Stam wrote:
Not agree, besides that, the program has also RSS and newsgroups..
My Swiss Army Knife has a corkscrew.
--
Dwight A. Corrin
316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax
dcorrin at fastmail.fm
photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com
photo
Hi Volker,
on Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:16:43 +0100GMT (16.12.2008, 11:16 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:
VA ... All the bugs listed below (except the two UTF-7 bugs in IMAP
VA and two minor bugs) *are* fixed in the 4.0.x release cycle, i.e.
VA with a 4.0.39.39 all these bugs are fixed and you do not need
When using the HTML editor it continues typing to the right and
scrolling left. This has been fixed before and keeps breaking
I think I see what might be the problem. Replies are in a table of
sorts and if the reply is several levels deep it gets wider and wider
thus creating a horizontal scroll
martes, 16 dic 2008 at 16:22, it seems you wrote:
Perhaps the check mark on the on icons should be green or there
should be a big X over the icon when the feature of off. Whatever
the solution, it should be as readily distinquishable as the adjacent
icon for priority.
Other thoughts?
I
Hello NetVicious,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 5:40:27 PM, you wrote:
N The problem it's TB! uses only one icon to this actions. The solution
N should be the use of two icons and a good customization of them.
Just like TB! is using in the adjacent priority
choices/icons!
--
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:52:50 +0100, Volker Ahrendt wrote:
Let's just say The Beta! is an neverending nonstop piece of work
in progress.
like nearly 100% of all the other software.
No, most software development is done step by step, feature by
feature, improvement by improvement.
Just curious
Hallo Christian,
I don't get the point why all the Beta Testers have to renew anything.
Ich read this E-Mail-List, I test and evaluate this software, I take
some time to answer questions or to ask some... why do I have to pay?
--
Gruß Roman
Hallo Christian,
I don't get the point why all the Beta Testers have to renew anything.
Ich read this E-Mail-List, I test and evaluate this software, I take
some time to answer questions or to ask some... why do I have to pay?
We are ALL customers who VOLUNTEERED to beta test
--
Rick
Hi Mackley,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:47:01 PM, you wrote:
Hans... PocoMail is a very bad copy of TheBat! with a very ugly interface...
:-(
And the last time I tried it, couldn't cope with hundreds of thousands
of emails and search.
Doug
--
Doug Weller Moderator,
Hi Mackley,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:47:01 PM, you wrote:
Hans... PocoMail is a very bad copy of TheBat! with a very ugly interface...
:-(
And the last time I tried it, couldn't cope with hundreds of thousands
of emails and search.
I tried POco and it has a slick interface but if
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:25:01 -0500, Rick wrote:
Ich read this E-Mail-List, I test and evaluate this software,
I take some time to answer questions or to ask some... why do
I have to pay?
We are ALL customers who VOLUNTEERED to beta test
I guess yelling up and running in reply to any of the
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:25:01 -0500, Rick wrote:
Ich read this E-Mail-List, I test and evaluate this software,
I take some time to answer questions or to ask some... why do
I have to pay?
We are ALL customers who VOLUNTEERED to beta test
I guess yelling up and running in reply to any of the
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:13:32 -0500, Rick wrote:
Are you insinuating that they don't appreciate my well crafted
up and running postings? I work hard on those!
I'm sure Ritlabs are thrilled to bits by your revelatory
communications, but alas they won't get you a free ride.
Arjan
--
[Non-text
Are you insinuating that they don't appreciate my well crafted
up and running postings? I work hard on those!
I'm sure Ritlabs are thrilled to bits by your revelatory
communications, but alas they won't get you a free ride.
What can I say? I have become a Ritlabs automaton. They say PAY! and
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:52:50 +0100, Volker Ahrendt wrote:
Forte Agent is an example of such software. On the Forte WWWebsite
there is a roadmap. We know what we can expect in the next version.
Beta testing is being done by a closed group of beta testers. And
when version 5 will at last hit
we know indeed what we have to expect, click
here:
http://www.forteinc.com/news/bulletin.php?id=agent50update
WOW ! Nested folders !!! :-D
--
Mackley
for Usenet groups I use http://www.mesnews.net
Current beta is 4.1.1.6
Hi Maxim,
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, at 20:29:19 [GMT +0200] (which was 19:29 where I live)
you wrote about: '4.1.1.6'
[-] (#0006955) Loading Images in HTML messages caused scrolling back to the
start
Working now. Thanks for the quick fix.
--
Robert van der Hulst
t...@heliks.nl
Using The Bat!
Marek,
On 16-12-2008 21:08, you wrote in mid:46439853.20081216210...@ipex.cz:
Something resembling a proper IMAP implementation? In other words, a
promise that has been made and broken, several times?
developers wrote, new implementation of IMAP will be integrated after 4.1
release,
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