Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Keith Russell
Martin Webster wrote: Keith Russell [KR], wrote: KR> Now, however, I can confirm others' reports of random long pauses KR> when downloading message bodies. Like Clive, this has KR> always been a problem for me. As I reported previously, I see KR> similar, but even longer pauses (sometimes) when mov

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Keith Russell
Clive Taylor wrote: Rather than echo all of what Allie has said in his reply I can confirm that (unlike Allie) I can't rely on TB for everyday, real-world IMAP use. It's just so frustrating to wait for a couple of minutes for messages to display while TB churns away. I can see my router working so

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Keith Russell
Raymund Thomas Tump wrote: This is normally connected to moving messages from one folder to another. If you delete the cache everything is fine again. I move message from my Inbox to a common folder and if I then copy/move a message from another folder to my Inbox it doesn't show up at all or it is

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Keith Russell
Allie Martin wrote: On Monday, November 01, 2004, at 02:32 PM, Martin Webster wrote: Following Allie's lead I have played around with the various settings and come up with optimum settings for my server. Perhaps we should start sharing this information, get confirmations etc. so Ritlabs can have a

Re: Temporary Excess?

2004-11-01 Thread Nick Andriash
On Monday, November 01, 2004, at 8:30:32 PM, Tony wrote: > I've just found over 140 bat.tmp files in my temp folder, is this normal > or excessive? That has been a problem with TB for as long as I can remember. With some builds it's not as bad as other builds, but always seems to be there nonet

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Keith Russell
Allie Martin wrote: On Monday, November 01, 2004, at 02:41 AM, Keith Russell wrote: I thought I had sent this off an hour ago, and I just discovered SEVENTEEN copies in my Outbox! How did that happen?!!! Seems that you have your Outbox server side. I'd make that local, unless you depend a lot on

Error Message When Saving Word Documents?

2004-11-01 Thread Nick Andriash
I was just sent two MS Word Documents, and saved them to disk as *.doc files. However, when trying to open them, I keep receiving the following error message: "The file is not a valid web archive" Because TB is in Beta, I primarily use Outlook at work and home, and therefore have TB leave the mes

Re: Delete from server when deleted from common trash folder

2004-11-01 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello David, Monday, November 1, 2004, 1:51:03 PM, you wrote: DE> Hello TBBETA, DE> Not sure about this one or how long it has been there, or is it just DE> me. DE> I have a laptop and a work station. DE> On the work station I collect and delete from the mail server. DE> On the laptop I collec

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Keith Russell
Hi, Raymund. Raymund Thomas Tump wrote: Looking at the messy quoting I'm glad staying with TB! :-) :-) Yes, that is one thing TB! does do better. Of course. I meant to mention that, but forgot. I understand that performance will not be as good with IMAP as with POP3. I can't see why it should be a

Re: Temporary Excess?

2004-11-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Dick, On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:52:20 +0100GMT (1-11-2004, 22:52 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DH> If it is indeed created for each pop3 verification, while DH> does the program not automatically erase the files as part of the DH> close process? It looks like something is interfering with T

Re[2]: Temporary Excess?

2004-11-01 Thread Dick H
Hello Tony, On Monday, November 01, 2004 at 21:35:59 GMT + (which was 22:35:59 where I live), Tony Boom wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of "Temporary Excess?": > Hello Charlene, > A reminder of what Charlene Ferrara typed on: > 01 November 2004 at 22:08:21 GMT +0100

Re: Temporary Excess?

2004-11-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tony, On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 19:24:31 +GMT (1-11-2004, 20:24 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TB> I've just found over 140 bat.tmp files in my temp folder, is this normal TB> or excessive? On reading your message, I decided to check my own temp folder and I found a few more than your n

Re: Temporary Excess?

2004-11-01 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Charlene, A reminder of what Charlene Ferrara typed on: 01 November 2004 at 22:08:21 GMT +0100 CF> Tony, did you run a test with deactivated Anti-Spam-plugins and CF> switched-off filtering? I've been doing all sorts here to find out what caused them but I can't recreate any .tmp fil

Re: Temporary Excess?

2004-11-01 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi MAU, Monday, November 1, 2004 you let us know -at least in parts- : > I wouldn't say it's normal but it could be while TB is running. But, if > you exit TB you can just delete all that are left. Right, according to my own experience you will lose no mail when you delete the left files. But it

Re: Temporary Excess?

2004-11-01 Thread MAU
Hello Tony, > I've just found over 140 bat.tmp files in my temp folder, is this > normal or excessive? I wouldn't say it's normal but it could be while TB is running. But, if you exit TB you can just delete all that are left. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat

Re[2]: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Christian Grams
Guten Tag Mark Partous, am Montag, 1. November 2004 um 21:35 schrieben Sie: MP> So, it's not that I would not like a Linux-version, only: it must be MP> profitable for the developers. Of course i agree and i´m sure that for the same price for the windows version TB! could be sold. In the Linux

Re: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 01 November 2004 at 21:25:29 GMT +0100 ASK> I've heard some people recommend "Sylpheed (Clawz)". Only the people who have never heard of The Bat, it's rubbish. -- Best regards,Tony. _

Re: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Christian, Monday, November 1, 2004, 9:16:02 PM, you wrote: MP>> People who are willing to pay for it? CG> Not everything in the Linux Community is open source :) Well, I use (paid version of) Xandros myself, but I don't have the faintest idea about how much people do use commercial linux

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Monday, November 01, 2004, at 02:32 PM, Martin Webster wrote: > Following Allie's lead I have played around with the various settings > and come up with optimum settings for my server. Perhaps we should > start sharing this information, get confirmations etc. so Ritlabs can > have an IMAP wizar

Re: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Kian Andersen & everyone else 01-Nov-2004 19:21, you wrote: > I would like to know if anyone of you know of a mail program for Linux > that resembles the features I have in The Bat! ? I've heard some people recommend "Sylpheed (Clawz)". There's also a Windows port, but I've never tried it.

Re[2]: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Christian Grams
Guten Tag Mark Partous, am Montag, 1. November 2004 um 21:06 schrieben Sie: MP> People who are willing to pay for it? Not everything in the Linux Community is open source :) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Christian Grams ## Harlekin's-EDV Christian Grams Görli

Re: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Christian, Monday, November 1, 2004, 8:31:23 PM, you wrote: CG> That might be right - but if Ritlabs has only a small percentage of CG> marketing sense - then they should give the Linux Community a shot and CG> will probably be very surprised in how much support they will find People who a

Re: Temporary Excess?

2004-11-01 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Tony Boom, Monday, November 1, 2004 you let us know -at least in parts- : > I've just found over 140 bat.tmp files in my temp folder, is this normal > or excessive? Seems TB loads messages from server and has some troubles afterwards. Do you use some antispam-plugin? Are the messages all

Delete from server when deleted from common trash folder

2004-11-01 Thread David Elliott
Hello TBBETA, Not sure about this one or how long it has been there, or is it just me. I have a laptop and a work station. On the work station I collect and delete from the mail server. On the laptop I collect a copy of my email but I do not delete it. I also have a number of accounts. All my S

Re: Bug: menu bar color

2004-11-01 Thread Martin Webster
Alexander Kunz [ASK], wrote: >> I have had this happen with other applications when I have played with XP >> Themes. I don't believe it is a problem with The Bat! as such. ASK> I did not play with the XP themes, but you're right - it happens with ASK> almost every application. Never noticed it

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Martin Webster
Allie Martin [AM], wrote: AM> For some time, my experience was that with the synchronisation options AM> for TB! set to work like ThunderBird's sync routines, their performance AM> is about the same. Where ThunderBird get's the better of TB! is when AM> you're forcing it to fulfil multiple reque

Re[2]: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Christian Grams
Guten Tag Tony Boom, am Montag, 1. November 2004 um 20:20 schrieben Sie: TB> Hello Christian, TB> The only limitation I found is the floating toolbar lets a bit of the TB> background through, functionality is all there, just the odd cosmetic TB> glitch on it's appearance. That might be righ

Temporary Excess?

2004-11-01 Thread Tony Boom
Hello TBBETA, I've just found over 140 bat.tmp files in my temp folder, is this normal or excessive? -- Best regards,Tony. _ The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush 01/11/2004 at 19:23 UTC 2ØØ4 - AWB

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Martin Webster
Raymund Tump [RTT], wrote: >>> Worse yet, I sometimes click on a message and get the wrong body! I >>> just displayed five unread messages in a folder. Of the five, I was >>> only able to read one. The other three all linked to the wrong >>> message. >> Now that's really odd. I don't really ha

Re: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Christian, A reminder of what Christian Grams typed on: 01 November 2004 at 19:43:26 GMT +0100 CG> True - but it can´t be a "proper" linux portation having to use CG> wine and the windows variation (and as you said "few limitations". The only limitation I found is the floating toolbar

Part of email message is not display ! (But you can see it with F9)

2004-11-01 Thread Damien
See gif. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cryptologie.com PGP FingerPrint 4252 4FE6 F29B E385 291D 99F3 FC0D 2058 CBB8 4573 - N F O - The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 BayesIt! 0.7.3, MyMacros 1.11a This message was scan by McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 8.0.0.912 Engi

Re[2]: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Christian Grams
Guten Tag Mary Bull, am Montag, 1. November 2004 um 19:38 schrieben Sie: MB> Hello Christian! MB> On Monday, November 01, 2004, 12:28 PM, you wrote, in part: CG>> ... it would be a MAJOR request of mine for Ritlabs to port The Bat! CG>> to Linux ... MB> Then go here and put a supporting note,

Re: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread hggdh
Kian Andersen wrote: Hello, I would like to know if anyone of you know of a mail program for Linux that resembles the features I have in The Bat! ? Hum. mutt comes to my mind, but it's line mode. Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA'

Re: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Christian! On Monday, November 01, 2004, 12:28 PM, you wrote, in part: CG> ... it would be a MAJOR request of mine for Ritlabs to port The Bat! CG> to Linux ... Then go here and put a supporting note, please: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3879 Additionally, what Tony just poste

Re: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Christian, A reminder of what Christian Grams typed on: 01 November 2004 at 19:29:18 GMT +0100 CG> I hope somebody in Ritlabs reads this thread and would post/reply a general situation to this... They won't because we've been asking for it for years. Even though TB runs OK'ish under

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Monday, November 01, 2004, at 02:41 AM, Keith Russell wrote: > I thought I had sent this off an hour ago, and I just discovered > SEVENTEEN copies in my Outbox! How did that happen?!!! Seems that you have your Outbox server side. I'd make that local, unless you depend a lot on keeping drafts a

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Monday, November 01, 2004, at 02:14 AM, Clive Taylor wrote: > Allie has the opposite experience, so resolving IMAP problems is > probably going to be a compromise. I wouldn't say opposite. It isn't that bad. My experience is that both clients have their problems when I use them. I'm more willi

Re: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Christian Grams
Guten Tag Kian Andersen, am Montag, 1. November 2004 um 19:21 schrieben Sie: KA> Hello, KA> I would like to know if anyone of you know of a mail program for Linux KA> that resembles the features I have in The Bat! ? nope... and it would be a MAJOR request of mine for Ritlabs to port The Bat! to

Re: Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Kian, A reminder of what Kian Andersen typed on: 01 November 2004 at 19:21:38 GMT +0100 KA> I would like to know if anyone of you know of a mail program for Linux KA> that resembles the features I have in The Bat! ? Yes, it's called The Bat! and it runs perfectly acceptably under Wine

Fellow The Bat! Users?

2004-11-01 Thread Kian Andersen
Hello, I would like to know if anyone of you know of a mail program for Linux that resembles the features I have in The Bat! ? -- Best regards, Kian Andersen (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://neksus.dk | http://neksus.deviantart.com The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush with BayesIt! 0.7.4 Windows XP Service Pa

Re: Bugtrack...

2004-11-01 Thread NetVicious
lunes, 1 nov 2004 at 14:04, it seems you wrote: > I've clearly not been paying enough attention in this forum, but > it appears that https://bt.ritlabs.com as disappeared > Where should I now be looking? Check this one: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt -- /\/ Using The Bat

Re: Bug 3.0.2.4 Rush: Very slow IMAP

2004-11-01 Thread Matt Thoene
On Monday, November 1, 2004 @ 12:33:29 AM [-0700], Peter Fjelsten wrote: > Hello beta testers. > This version runs well at home (mainly POP3) but very slow here at work > (mainly IMAP/Exchange). TB! uses 93-97% CPU (Pentium 4 with HT and 512 > RAM) - even doing nothing (no mail checking). >

Re: Bugtrack...

2004-11-01 Thread Foster, Graham
> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ Thanks to all who replied. -- regards, Graham Using The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush assisted by under Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600, Service Pack 1) -- Notice: This e-mail message, tog

Re[3]: [the_bat] Re: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions

2004-11-01 Thread Michael Acklin
Monday, November 1, 2004, 7:13:17 AM, (Internet Time - @592) you wrote: Hello NetVicious, N> lunes, 1 nov 2004 at 04:32, it seems you wrote: >> NFS = New File System >> OFS = Old File System N> ;-) N> NFS = New FilTER System N> OFS = Old FilTER System Yes, I saw that after I hit the send bu

Re[2]: [the_bat] Re: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions

2004-11-01 Thread NetVicious
lunes, 1 nov 2004 at 04:32, it seems you wrote: > NFS = New File System > OFS = Old File System ;-) NFS = New FilTER System OFS = Old FilTER System -- /\/ Using The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1) /\/ e t \/

Re: Bugtrack...

2004-11-01 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Graham! On Monday, November 01, 2004, 7:04 AM, you wrote: FG> I've clearly not been paying enough attention in this forum, FG> but it appears that https://bt.ritlabs.com as disappeared I tried the URL above, just to be sure, and got a page error from Opera "certificate does not match." F

Re: Bugtrack...

2004-11-01 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Monday, November 1, 2004, Foster, Graham wrote: > I've clearly not been paying enough attention in this forum, but > it appears that https://bt.ritlabs.com as disappeared > Where should I now be looking? https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! htt

Bugtrack...

2004-11-01 Thread Foster, Graham
Hello tbbeta I've clearly not been paying enough attention in this forum, but it appears that https://bt.ritlabs.com as disappeared Where should I now be looking? -- regards, Graham Using The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush assisted by [Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6] under Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600, S

Re: Bug: menu bar color

2004-11-01 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Ian A. White & everyone else 01-Nov-2004 10:32, you wrote: > I have had this happen with other applications when I have played with XP > Themes. I don't believe it is a problem with The Bat! as such. I did not play with the XP themes, but you're right - it happens with almost every applica

Re: Bug 3.0.2.4 Rush: Very slow IMAP

2004-11-01 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Peter, On 01-11-2004 09:33, you [PF] wrote in : PF> This version runs well at home (mainly POP3) but very slow here at PF> work (mainly IMAP/Exchange). TB! uses 93-97% CPU (Pentium 4 with HT PF> and 512 RAM) - even doing nothing (no mail checking). As the signature shows

Re: Bug 3.0.2.2 (Rush): Virtual folders not updating

2004-11-01 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Matt, On 31-10-2004 00:41, you [MT] wrote in : MT> Using 3.0.2.4 and the VF's are updating fine on my system. Not here. Still the same problem (IMAP folders as basis for the VFs). -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten 3.0.2.4 Rush Pro ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) & 1

Re: alternate icon sets

2004-11-01 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Konstantin, A reminder of what Konstantin Zhilenko typed on: 01 November 2004 at 10:06:46 GMT +0100 KZ> Page size? Converting? Do not download the picture from the site, pictures KZ> are for preview only. I realize that now, Just never knew about the new system of implementing glyphs

Re[2]: alternate icon sets

2004-11-01 Thread Konstantin Zhilenko
Hello, Tony, Sunday, October 31, 2004, you wrote: DH>> Don't understand the 'converted to bmp'. To my knowledge the file is already an DH>> bmp file. You just need to copy it to your TB program directory and be sure DH>> it's named 'glyphs.bmp'. TB> Trouble with them is, they are the wrong size

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Martin Webster
Keith Russell [KR], wrote: KR> Now, however, I can confirm others' reports of random long pauses KR> when downloading message bodies. Like Clive, this has KR> always been a problem for me. As I reported previously, I see KR> similar, but even longer pauses (sometimes) when moving between KR> fol

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Raymund Thomas Tump
Hi Keith, > (What is that, anyway?) As a result, this reply will be sent > using Mulberry. Looking at the messy quoting I'm glad staying with TB! :-) > Of course. I meant to mention that, but forgot. I understand that > performance will not be as good with IMAP as with POP3. I can't see why it

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Raymund Thomas Tump
Hi TBBeta, >> Worse yet, I sometimes click on a message and get the wrong body! I >> just displayed five unread messages in a folder. Of the five, I was >> only able to read one. The other three all linked to the wrong >> message. > Now that's really odd. I don't really have an explanation for su

Bug 3.0.2.4 Rush: Very slow IMAP

2004-11-01 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Hello beta testers. This version runs well at home (mainly POP3) but very slow here at work (mainly IMAP/Exchange). TB! uses 93-97% CPU (Pentium 4 with HT and 512 RAM) - even doing nothing (no mail checking). Does anyone have the same experience? -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten 3.0.2

Bug: menu bar color

2004-11-01 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello everyone, when clicking on the menu bar & opening & closing any menu, the background color of the menu bar is not redrawn correctly. See screenshot (the "account" menu item's background is white not grey after the menu was opened once). Maybe only an issue with XP + visual styles. -- Best