Priority of IMAP (was: Quiet?)
Hi, Chris Weaven wrote: from what I've heard, IMAP is lacking somewhat. As I am entirely IMAP based, I'm in no great hurry to test in this case. ACK(*). New GUI(+) or no new GUI, working IMAP(#) is what I want. Regards, Markus * Acknowledge[d] (antonym: NACK (not acknowledged)) + Graphical User Interface # Internet Message Access Protocol P.S.: If acronym explanations become built-in, I'd opt for the tool-tip kind (switchoffable). -- Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP fine tune - cosmetic glitch
Hi, Chris wrote: Can anyone else confirm? Confirmed. Regards, Markus Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: batskin.ini file format
Hi, Alexey wrote: I agree that XML would be much better I'm also a strong supporter of XML for this (Firefox and Trillian, if I'm not mistaken, are two examples that use XML based skin descriptions pretty well). Yet, I'm wondering if TB's developers are already beyond a point where this is still an option. Regards, Markus Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TheBat Wish : multiple mail identities
Hi, Marcus Williams wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd like a drop down in the from address similar to the one thats already there that offers the each accounts associated address. You could create dummy accounts and then select the account in the editor pane. (Of course you would have to set up filters in all dummy accounts so that all sent mail gets stored in your cumulative account.) Regards, Markus -- Was man anfängt, sollte man auch zuende brin Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: V2.12b6 : password protected account not functional
Hi, 9Val wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Surely it is not by design, but I don't know the reason. It is not reproducable for me (may be because of some today's fixes) Perhaps this observation helps: it works with POP3 accounts and fails for my IMAP account. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Martin gets trouted, read all about it.
Hi, I just noticed that Leif initially announced that he already created a trout smiley. Sorry for my freshness. (I can't get to the URL he posted, though.) Regards, Markus -- It doesn't matter what comes, fresh goes better in life... :) Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: v2.04.4 and kaspersky AV plugin
Hi, z0mbie wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: sorry, i sent that by mistake, i was going to test AV plugin and mixed up messages :] Frankly, I don't like that. Sending out a virus/trojan by mistake (and to an email list) is hard to tolerate. It also doesn't make it any better that z0mbie doesn't reveal her/his name. Regards, Markus -- ...There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't. Using The Bat! 2.04.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problem with international () characters
Hi, interesting, yet probably unrelated: In the email header pane the Cyrillic text appears properly, yet when I select it by clicking once in the line, I get to see 'funny' characters. (I use the font Microsoft Sans Serif.) Regards, Markus -- COLON HYPHEN RIGHTPAREN Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/53 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 attachment: Cyrillic-1.pngattachment: Cyrillic-2.png Current beta is 2.03 Beta/53 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: slight transparent blue
Hi, Gunivortus Goos wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Windows XP Professional, english/american version with SP1. It's the same kind of blue as the scrolllines, but much slighter, a kind of pastel colour. Anybody know which exact item (eg. window title, window background, etc) it takes this color from? I use XP's classic view and would like to have this as well by changing this particular item's color (I can see it in the standard XP theme but was unable to determine which item it is). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/38 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.03 Beta/28 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signature delimiter (was: Re: Backup script was: (The Bat! v2.01.49 is now available))
Hi, Tony Boom wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Believe me I have tried... BLOODY HARD! And what makes it worse is I can see the delimiter is there, space an all just by running the cursor over it. But I bet the trailing space is gone when this gets to the list. You won your bet. (SCNR) The space is there in your raw message but it is not QP encoded and thus it vanishes. Regards, Markus -- Dew knot trussed yore spell checquer two fined awl mistakes. Remark: The Bat's spell checker complained about checquer :) Using The Bat! 2.01.56 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 2.01.56 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2.01.56 is now available
Hi, Stefan Tanurkov wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [-] (#0001415) The old way of displaying of received/created time is restored I see the day of the week twice now. Once abbreviated, once spelled out. I don't recall this being like that before. Sample from Stefan's message (my locale is German, I use the Bat in English, the way it appears doesn't change if I select a different language in the Bat): Created: Do, Donnerstag, 27. November 2003, 19:31:25 (Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:31:25 +0200) Regards, Markus -- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. Using The Bat! 2.01.56 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 2.01.50 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message/Bericht
Hi, Mark Partous wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone recognise this? I think it comes from broken reply templates (broken in the way that they do not work properly under 2.0 anymore). I see this sometimes as well. I use English settings and sometimes the reply text has the original Subject in the first line. I haven't taken the time yet to clean up my templates, though. Regards, Markus -- Jupp: Und wo kommen Sie her? Sepp: Ham'S was gegen Bayern? Using The Bat! 2.01.7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 2.01.26 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Heretical suggestion: use IE's HTML parser as alternative option
Hi, food for thought: wouldn't it facilitate HTML viewing if IE's parser (if installed) could be selected for displaying HTML mail? Of course this decision should be made by the user and active and external content could be filtered out before passing the code to IE's engine. Comments welcome in bugtrack: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001994 Regards, Markus -- Trekkers work out at the He's Dead Gym. Using The Bat! 2.01.7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 2.01.26 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: -- after PGP verification
Hi, Andy wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: To what extent is the string -- one we need to use... could the signature delimiter string be different? It seems to me that we have constant issues with the trailing space magic. I would be very happy if there were an equivalent string that did NOT rely on the presence or absence of white space. The more or less Internet-wide common agreement to use dash-dash-space reaches beyond Bat and/or PGP users. AFAIK it also predates PGP. There's nothing that *we* (as Bat users) or the programmers can do about it. Regards, Markus -- s signature edited for content and to fit scre Using The Bat! 2.01.7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 2.01.20 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cpu 99%
Hi, Davide Ferrari wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: It seems that TB 20 beta 2 to 5 uses 99% of CPU time... But normal operations are executed normally Is it only a nominal 99% or the CPU is really doing something when the bat is running? I noticed the same behavior, traced the IMAP session and noticed that the Bat was trying to keep the IMAP connection alive by NOOP commands. Doing this is ok, but it shouldn't do it multiple times per second (the trace log filled rather rapidly). I mentioned this already in the thread with the subject NOOP (IMAP) (msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Regards, Markus -- Ich kann mit einem Eierlöffel Fledermäuse töten. Monty Python's Fliegender Zirkus 1971 Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 2.0b4 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cpu 99%
Hi, Marek Mikus wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can't confirm this on WinXP EN, which OS You have? I can positively confirm it for NT 4 SP6a and XP Pro SP1. Perhaps it is related to IMAP sync settings (e.g. how often folders are checked and how long a connection is kept alive). Regards, Markus -- ...There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't. Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 2.0b4 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
NOOP (IMAP)
Hi, my Bat got stuck while heavily NOOPing. It used my whole DSL bandwidth at home and I had to kill it. In the IMAP trace log I noticed that it was apparently NOOPing all the time for quite a while and way too often (since there are no time stamps in the log I can only guess). To me the log looks like there were several NOOPs per second (and all within the same session)! Anybody else able to confirm this? Regards, Markus P.S.: I currently can't use IMAP properly, message count is inconsistent, it hangs, it crashes and messages seem to disappear. -- Please do not look directly into laser with remaining eye. Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 2.0b4 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Outbox on the IMAP sever?
Hi, does anyone really have an IMAP account that has an actual Outbox on the server? I had to leave that field empty in my IMAP configuration since there is no such thing under my GMX account. Now my messages get sent and stay in my Outbox, they don't get moved (locally and on the server) to my Sent Items. Is this regular behavior? I tried moving the message manually but that seemed to have failed (I can never tell if something worked or not since the overall behavior is very erratic). Regards, Markus -- Heisenberg may have been here . . . Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 2.0b4 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Outbox on the IMAP sever?
Hi, Olivier Mascia wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MG Now my messages get sent and stay in my Outbox, they don't get MG moved (locally and on the server) to my Sent Items. Is this regular MG behavior? Bug that I reported with Beta/1. Could you setup an outgoing filter that would move some outgoing messages to some other IMAP folder ? I get an access violation with such and messages stay in the Outbox. I already tried the outgoing filter thing. As described by you, it just makes it worse (I also got an AV). I currently don't use any filters locally. Is your sent item an IMAP folder or not ? Sent Items, yes; Outbox, no (having an Outbox as a remote IMAP folder doesn't make sense.) Regards, Markus -- You're dead, Jim. -- McCoy, Amok Time, stardate 3372.7 Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 2.0b4 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Shutdown crash also with AVG 10
Hi, in my environment TB! also crashes on shutdown even after I updated to AVG's plugin v10. Anybody else able to confirm this? Regards, Markus -- Go ahead... make my day. -- Dirty Harry Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/11 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.63b11 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Old bugs still exists in 1.63/beta9
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : %SUBJECT=Re: strips the Re: - I'm having to edit it in by hand after starting a reply :-( Confirmed. Regards, Markus -- My Granny started running 3 miles a day when she was 56. Now she's 73 and we have no idea where she is! Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/9 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.63b8 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/8
Hi, Stefan Tanurkov wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : [-] Various bugs related to the new folder storage mechanism Waiting for your comments... As always :-) Uhm, what about my pet bug: magical compression message wipe? Regards, Markus Current beta is 1.63b7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
1.63 Beta/8 reply, date and character encoding problems
Hi, I get very weird results from my reply template. An original message (dated Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 10:49:10 +0200) contains the text 1) Bitte senden Sie mir eine Re:eMail, wenn diese angekommen ist. When I reply to this message I get the following: Sie schrieben am 10310r 0310r10:493r 103rr lo353, 1) Bi10:49:103 103495349 10i3 6ir 3i493 R3:36ail, w349 5i3103 a493ko06349 i1010:49. The line beginning with Sie schrieben am comes from this macro: Sie schrieben am %ODate: What is going on? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/8 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.63b7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Very complicated wish (Filters)
Hi, Philippe Gouillou wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I wasn't clear. The idea is that, as it is now, the filters apply following the orders of lines (1st line = 1st filter) with, as it is now, an option Continue processing with other filters. The idea is that the hierarchical structure shouldn't have impact on the order of the filters. In this example : +- 1 | +-2 | | | +-3 | | | +-4 | +-5 the order of filter is : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and only if 2 doesn't match 3 and 4 aren't applied. Proposed (limited) workaround: set a flag on the message in the first filter, continue processing and have the following conditional filter check for that flag. It might work. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.63b7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message that freeze the bat!
Hi, FYI: the first message of this thread was considered possibly containing a virus and withheld by GMX on the way to me. (AFAIK the use Sophos.) Regards, Markus -- Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that. Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.63b7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message that freeze the bat!
Hi, Thomas Fernandez wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I have not enabled GMX's virus scan. I see, another person that has a professional GMX account. :) I scan by myself - I am a control freak. ;-) Well, I have it activated, just for fun. One time their scanner stumbled over an email from this list where MIME headers were discussed. I had to convert the raw email to a PDF to send it to their support to show the problem (all other methods, including a zipped file, failed). That shows how thoroughly their scanner works - albeit it caught the wrong stuff. :) Regards, Markus -- You guys line up alphabetically by height. - Bill Peterson, Florida State football coach Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.63b7 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: REQUEST: Iconify ThBat! with cloose (X)
Hi, Allie Martin wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I tried it and although it does disable the close button, it affects how my templates work. It seems to disable TB!'s ability to look in it's installation directory for files defined in templates when only a file name is given. Thanks for pointing that out. I'll relay that to the author. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: REQUEST: Iconify ThBat! with cloose (X)
Hi, Allie Martin wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I tried it and although it does disable the close button, it affects how my templates work. It seems to disable TB!'s ability to look in it's installation directory for files defined in templates when only a file name is given. I've contacted the author and he's not aware why this should happen. His code blindly sends the API call RemoveMenu() with the appropriate parameters for the X to thebat. The author is willing to give the source code to people who are more interested. Contact me and I'll establish contact to the author. Not having real programming experience I just have these questions: did you put the removeX application in the Bat's working directory? Do you address the files you mention with the whole path? Regards, Markus -- Does the noise in my head bother you? Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wierd problem in 2000 and XP
Hi, Kent Villard wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Has anyone encountered this Yes, I have. Although this is a very wide shot I renamed Thebat.exe to thebat.exe and haven't noticed it again (yet this might be a coincidence, it doesn't really make sense). Regards, Markus -- Non Illegitimus Carborundum. Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.63b6 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/6
Hi, Bruno Fernandes wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : And here's a feature request: Allow the pull-down history in the FROM header item to list the various from addresses I have defined for my different folders. Currently it will only list the ONE that is being used for the current folder. You may chose your identity from all your accounts by right-clicking in the bottom right part of the editor window where your current account name is displayed. If you have different folder identities than accounts you may consider creating dummy accounts with the addresses you need. Regards, Markus -- Every nonzero finite dimensional inner product space has an orthonormal basis. It makes sense, when you don't think about it. Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.63b4 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/6
Hi, Oleg Titov (quoting Spike) wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : S Perhaps a _WARNING_ when the size of a message folder approaches S the limit of the O/S file size. +2 vote for this Count me in! I've also lost some mail because compression on shutdown kicked it and didn't check if there was enough disk space. I consider this a major bug. Regards, Markus -- Heisenberg may have been here . . . Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.63b4 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: attachment filename bug?
Hi, Den V. Yafyasov wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : So whose it is a mistake, The BAT! or SMTP-server? The culprit is the application that created this mail. Was it the Bat, if so which version? Regards, Markus -- Neniu anticipas la hispanan Inkvizicion. Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/3 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.62b17 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 Beta/3; Installation
Hi, Joseph N. wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I think I'm going to take the plunge. Can this version be installed right over my 1.62/17 installation, or should I uninstall the previous version? Absolutely not, do not uninstall! TB beta RARs contain just the executable, just shut down the Bat and replace thebat.exe (you might keep a copy of your old EXE by renaming it). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/3 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.62b17 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Bayesian filter - V2 idea
Hi, Graham wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : There is a lot of discussion currently about the use of Bayesian algorithms to filter spam, and there are some products coming on the market which allow you to try this novel approach. Thank you for this valuable pointer. I have come up with a different idea to use POPFile. I'm using it now to distinguish between different languages. I cleaned out the stop words and once the filter has learned enough I can use the inserted header to decide in which language to write and spellcheck my replies. BTW: The idea of such learning filters is already implemented in other contexts. The GNUS newsreader calls it adaptive scoring and IIRC AKMail offered something similar for language recognition. Regards, Markus -- I am dyslexic of Borg. Your ass will be laminated. Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.62b5 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.62/B7 and Read Filters
Hi, Joseph N. wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Is anyone else having a problem with the reliability of 'read' filters under ver. 1.62/Beta 7? Yes, yet even under 1.61. I have a read filter that should export attachments. As an incoming filter it works, yet as a read filter it complains in the log Cannot export message. Regards, Markus -- 667: The neighbor of the beast. Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.62b5 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Writing and Reading Asian Languages (Was: Re: Writing and readingJapanese)
Hi, God wrote: Oh no, not again! D.Adams HHGTG. Dierk Haasis wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : So, there's already one for you? Wouldn't it be nice to have a religion with a higher Being we chose to worship* called Marck? Or Phil, or Sandy? I already proclaimed the Church of Marck on TBOT (msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Hopefully nobody's religious beliefs are offended by this. BTW, how come I didn't know we have the same literary taste, next I will find out that you like to read Tom Sharpe. The affinity to Douglas Adams is widely spread among long-term Internetters and technophiles. I know programmers that use 42 in their programs as some kind of cheat code to trigger special functions. *anybody here knowing where I borrowed that one? Nope, strangely enough, Google didn't come up with a match. :) Regards, Markus -- This signature would be seven words long if it were six words shorter. Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.62b5 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Writing and Reading Asian Languages (Was: Re: Writing and readingJapanese)
Hi, Dierk Haasis wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : No wonder, it is my own translation from German - that much I give you as a hint. Thanks for the hint. [...] Bur-Malottke hatte dem Intendanten vorgeschlagen, das Wort Gott durch die Formulierung 'jenes höhere Wesen, das wir verehren' zu ersetzen [...] From: Böll, Heinrich. _Doktor_Murkes_gesammeltes_Schweigen_. (English: Doctor Murke's Collection of Silence). Sorry to our English readers for this German literary excursion. Regards, Markus -- Jupp: Und wo kommen Sie her? Sepp: Ham'S was gegen Bayern? Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current beta is 1.62b5 | Using TBBETA information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hghlights only fails?
Hi, Graham Foster wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : 1.60g.. selecting Highlights only in the Account log, give me an empty list. Just me.. or anyone else able to reproduce this? Works fine with 1.60c (I donwgraded from 'g' since I noticed weird display issues, e.g. the message body pane was not being refreshed). Regards, Markus -- Klatu barada nikto. Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: AVG Plugin
Hi, Thomas Martin wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : The only thing which doesnt work is to Sign incoming and outgoing messages with a certificate as it is told in the configuration..But doesnt matter. AFAIAC these certificates add more clutter than information. I don't trust any such stamps. They just advertise a virus scanner. How would I as a recipient of such certified mails know if the user has configured his/her scanner properly? Trust nobody! Besides, what good is a mail with such a certificate when the recipient's MTA simply rejects any attachments anyway? Regards, Markus -- I am dyslexic of Borg. Your ass will be laminated. Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 2 simultaneous fonts in message list
Hi, Dierk Haasis wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : BTW, Microsoft Sans Serif (or MS SSerif) are, TMK, only found on systems running Win ME or later. But they can be copied over to older systems. :) Regards, Markus -- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 2 simultaneous fonts in message list
Hi, Miguel A. Urech wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I only have MS Sans Serif, not Microsoft Sans Serif. Well, then you have to find out which unicode font is used on your PC. I copied Micosoft Sans Serif from another of my PCs running XP. Regards, Markus -- Neniu anticipas la hispanan Inkvizicion. Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 2 simultaneous fonts in message list
Hi, I, Markus Gloede wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Before you despair because you do not find this setting: it's well hidden under Options/Preferences/System/Fonts. Again, I was too fast and erred. Lars Geiger wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : This can be changed via the Font... button in the Colour group dialog. Regards, Markus -- The only person who got things done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe. Using The Bat! 1.60c under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: RC with degraded IMAP capabilities?
Hi, Stefan Tanurkov wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Did you cleared out the Mailbox field when you reset the mask? Here everything shows up fine... I know this might be heresy, but did you try it with a freshly installed beta or RC? OTOH could it be that somewhere during the beta cycle some settings were messed up and now they won't work even if the 'engine' would allow it? Create an account on fastmail.fm and see if you get to see any other folder than INBOX. I really tried everything I could think of mask-wise. I was even able to create new folders through the dispatcher, still the Bat won't see them. Regards, Markus -- Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that. Using The Bat! 1.54 RC/1 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: The Bat! - bug report - address book
Hi, Ron Secord wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Not the same, but as you can see there are two entries for each display name, which is unnecessary. When you enter a middle name you'll notice that the options are different. To circumvent the display of redundant options the Bat! could check for the existence of any data in the three fields. I think it is a very minor glitch that does no harm. Regards, Markus -- Save the whales. Club a seal instead. Using The Bat! 1.54 RC/1 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
RC with degraded IMAP capabilities?
Hi, I know IMAP is not the Bat's forte but it got worse during this beta cycle. Is it really going to remain like that? Regards, Markus -- He's dead, Jim. -- McCoy, The Devil in the Dark, stardate 3196.1 Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/50 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Beta 40 - Don't download!!
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I did / have and Tony's signatures are still invalid when using MS CryptoAPI but valid using internal. Why? When you use MS CryptoAPI IE's certificate storage is being used to validate signatures. Perhaps something is wrong with the certificates in that storage? Proably BT's certificate is missing. Regards, Markus -- 667: The neighbor of the beast. Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/41 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Certificates internal vs MS Crypto API (was: Beta 40 - Don't download!!)
Hi, I, Markus Gloede wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : When you use MS CryptoAPI IE's certificate storage is being used to validate signatures. Perhaps something is wrong with the certificates in that storage? Proably BT's certificate is missing. Bingo, I imported the BT certificate into IE's cert storage and now Tony's signature also shows up as valid with MS's Crypto API. Regards, Markus -- Auribus teneo lupum. Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/41 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Certificates internal vs MS Crypto API (was: Beta 40 - Don't download!!)
Hi, now comes the funny part. In msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I had set the S/MIME options to use MS CrAPI. I wasn't prompted for a passphrase and the message went out. Now this message show invalid with the Bat's S/MIME API. Guess I have to check my own cert storage now. Regards, Markus -- For some reason, this signature reminds everyone of Marvin Zelkowitz. Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/41 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Certificates internal vs MS Crypto API
Hi, Eddie Castelli wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Your Signature shows *invalid* Hopefully it is valid in this mail (using internal S/MIME and Sign when completed). Regards, Markus -- Klatu barada nikto. Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/41 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Please send us new GLYPH (was:Re: 1.54 Beta/40)
Hi, Alexis Haeringer wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Could you please send us the new glyph.bmp. the feature makes use of an image that is already part of the regular glyph.bmp. If your glyphs aren't up-to-date I suggest installing the latest release version of the Bat! and replacing the exe with beta 41's. Regards, Markus -- objects in mirror are closer than they appear Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/41 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/40
Hi, Miles Alexander wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Is there anyone that has been keeping a running record of enhancements/changes/fixes along the 1.54 Beta path? Günther Eisele kept track (currently up to beta 38): http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/154-new.txt Regards, Markus -- I don't suffer from Insanity... I enjoy every minute of it... Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/41 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: The Bat deletes attachments
Hi, Stefan Tanurkov wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : This is why we give you a choice: either keep attachments in body and have no problems whatsoever (maybe speed, but really big attachments do not come often) How do you know that? Are you going to add a sticker to the Bat! package saying: May cause file loss if you try to organize attachments separately. Do not use with big attachments! Every 1st of a month I get a mail with a 8 MB attachment. I store this in two separate folders. In one folder messages are deleted after five days. The other folder keeps messages indefinitely. Every six months or so I delete the attachments from the Attachments directory. I need to keep the messages as a proof of having received them. To my surprise attachments were already gone the time a copy of the message had been removed from my short-term folder. or keep attachments separately and live with limitations this way gives. 'Limitations' is hardly the right word. It works when my POP server feeds me dupes and I un-dupe folders. This works because every message gets its own internal ID, even if it is a dupe. Why not create a new ID when a message gets copied and have references between attachments and messages? How does it currently work? How does the Bat 'know' which attachment belongs to which message? Obviously some logic is already in place since separate attachments with the same name get unique file names. Regards, Markus -- Das beste, was aus Bayern kommt, sind die A5 und die A8. Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/29 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat deletes attachments
Hi, Alain de Gevigney wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I try it but couldn't agree with you: here is how I test it: 1) create an account 'test_FA' with attachments stored in special directory 2) create 2 sub-folders in Inbox - Test_FA_1 - Test_FA_2 3) add 2 filters to dispatch messages in sub-folders 4) sent 2 messages with the same file attached: ADRESSES.DOC [...] Thank you for your elaborate tests, I appreciate it. But you neglected one specification. I am talking about *one* received message that gets duplicated after having been downloaded. Regards, Markus -- This signature would be seven words long if it were six words shorter. Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/29 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat deletes attachments
Hi, I filed a bug report in the appropriate web interface (original description: msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ). Regards, Markus -- For some reason, this signature reminds everyone of Marvin Zelkowitz. Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/29 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat deletes attachments
Hi, Anton I. Danilov wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I personally dislike TB's habit to duplicate attachments when they're the same files and attached to different letters... It also could be solved and it could save much diskspace, at least in my case, it would save up to 50% of the mailbox size. Well, but what behavior would you like when one of the two messages gets deleted? A message is an entity, including the attachment, even if there is a different message (different overall hash) with the exact same attachment. Regards, Markus -- One OS to rule them all, one OS to find them one OS to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them in the land of Redmond, where the shadows lie. Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/26 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Link msgid should be mid (RFC-2392)
Hi, in accordance with RFC-2392 I suggest that the currently working link msgid: should be changed to mid:; (see also ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2392.txt;). Regards, Markus -- This signature intentionally says nothing. Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/26 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
OT: Pronunciation of 'polish' (was: BUG: 1.54b12: Smart pad not working properly...)
Hi, On Thursday, November 29, 2001, 6:41:49 PM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: Den verstehe ich nicht ... bin ich jetzt blöd oder ist der so anspruchsvoll??? [Expressing that he doesn't get Dierk's joke.] It's about the pronunciation of the word 'polish'. The verb (German 'polieren') and noun (German 'Politur') are pronounced in English differently (with a short 'o') than the adjective for something related to Poland (where 'Polish' is pronounced with a long 'o'). NB: when written down it is easier because the latter version is always capitalized. In Dierk's joke it was all caps which didn't help. Regards, Markus -- Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that. Using The Bat! 1.54/10 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
The Bat! - bug report (1.54/10e) - scrollbar handle
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.54/10e Serial Number 4A849B39 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 and would like to report a bug The bug description: The accounts pane scrollbar handle proportions are not in relation to the content. When scrolling is necessary it is always the smallest handle. (Perhaps this is related to the scroll wheel slowdown problem?) Regards, Markus -- Don't like my email? Call 1-800-dev-null. Using The Bat! 1.54/10e under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - bug report (1.54/10e)
Hi, Nick Andriash wrote: I don't seem to find that behaviour at all, but I suspect you are using the RTF Viewer, correct? Right. Minor visual glitch: original message pane in reply editor uses different font, where is the setting for that? Again, this must be only with the fancy viewer, because with the default FWF Viewer I don't see any of what you report. In fact, I really see no difference between this version and the last. Others have already confirmed this glitch. Regards, Markus -- Save the whales. Club a seal instead. Using The Bat! 1.54/10e under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/10 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
SOT: From -- FAQ (was: Quoting)
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: No. It has been put there by a *nix routing MTA to differentiate the From at the start of a line in you message body from the From ... that starts a new message in *nix mailbox format. We often see such changes, either a '' or a '-' stuck in there. It also plays havoc with signed texts. Could this be put in the FAQ? It comes up ever so often. And the next time it comes up we can simply point at the FAQ. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.53d under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Downgradable? was: 1.54 Beta/9
Hi, what's the current status of downgrade problems from a beta to a non-beta? Does this still result in setting losses? I would like test beta 9 without losing something should I need to go back to 1.53. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.53d under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/8
Re: A Feature that bugs me.
Hi, On Thursday, July 12, 2001, 12:04:09 PM, Jonas Koopmann wrote: Can confirm that. It's the same with .RTF. We had this discussion a while ago. The problem is that those attachments are announced in the MIME headers as plain text and are thus displayed inline. It has been suggested to offer an option to save such attachments. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.53d under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Entrust doesn't find a valid S/MIME part
Hi, when I send a S/MIME signed message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with importCert in the subject I get the following response: Certificate import output: IsValidSmimeSequence() returned error (-4085) EntrustFileSMIME::The data does not contain a valid S/MIME message. What is wrong? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.53bis under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
F9 minimizes
Hi, am I the only one where F9 minimizes TB! rather than bringing up the Source View? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/11 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
IF macro
Hi, I don't get this to work (it should create a gender specific formal address): %IF:%ABtoGENDER=1:Sehr geehrter Herr:Sehr geehre Frau The result is (address book entry is female): :2=1:Sehr geehrter Herr:Sehr geehre Frau What am I doing wrong? Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: RTF Bug
Hi, On Tuesday, May 15, 2001, 10:31:43 AM, Philippe Gouillou wrote: I've just sent a mail to myself to test and compare the headers. You'll find hereafter the headers for both. The difference is : Received : Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline AND Content-Type: text/richtext; name=cvyK.rtf Content-Description: cvyK.rtf Content-Disposition: inline; filename=cvyK.rtf Here's the problem: Content-Disposition: inline Sent by TB! (test) : Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit AND Content-Type: application/msword; name=citations.rtf Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=citations.rtf So TB! send correctly RTF. But wouldn't it be possible to TB! to automatically detect when it's RTF file ? Not really. TB! does what it has been told: display the attachment inline. The only thing we could ask for is an option to save such message parts. The culprit in your sample is Yahoo, not TB! Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.53 Beta/5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anyone know about..
Hi, Graham Foster wrote: a) the %- macro?.. what is i supposed to do. It did nothing for me in a template IIRC, it can be used to allow a line break within a macro (regexp) that usually needs to be within one line. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.52f under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: quote signs slipping in emails
Hi, On Tuesday, April 24, 2001, 6:28:30 PM, Joerg Hevers wrote: within the last weeks I noticed a strange behaviour of The Bat!. On some mails I'm receiving, there seem quote-characters to be included randomly at the beginning of a line. So someone is writing some lines of text to me and in this text on a random line, there slips a in at the beginning of the line. I also noticed this with some mails I sent and CC'ed to me - in the outbox they looked fine, but after receiving them, the had slipped in on a seemingly random line. The quote sign is no mail displaying bug of The Bat!, as the mail is also stored like that in the mailbox-file. Are you sure it is randomly? For compatibility purposes with some older mail applications the Bat puts a in front of From when it appears at the beginning of a line. (From used to be a message delimiter.) Sample: From Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.52 Beta/11 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %SingleRe
Hi, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I don't know, I haven't been able to send an email to the outside world (i.e. Internet email addresses) with FirstClass. Risking this to become OT, is it possible with FC? If you have a FC messaging server/gateway you can send email. Yet it is a real pain and also violates many RFCs. And we don't want to put the Bat into the same league as a proprietary messaging application, do we? Hence (bringing the topic back in) I also suggest making the counter a non-default. Regards, Markus Using The Bat! 1.46 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! - minor bug report // address highlight parser
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.42 Beta/9 Serial Number 4A849B39 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 and would like to report a bug The bug description: Addresses such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] are valid but not recognized by the highlighting procedure. Steps to reproduce the bug: Look above, is the address highlighted? BTW: *@somewhere.com should also be highlighted (there might be more like that). Before you ask, yes, I know of real addresses like this. Regards, Markus Gloede -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hi, On Tuesday, March 28, 2000, 11:09:54 AM, Roel wrote: confirmed here, but with an irregularity: some messages do show the icon... (and they have no other attachments...) Could you check if those message have a MIME alternative part? (Since the Bat is still lacking a View Source option you will have to export the messages to look at the raw body.) Regards, Markus Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/7 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Serious Database Problem
Hi, On Wednesday, March 22, 2000, 11:53:38 PM, Keith Russell wrote: I started up TB again and it seemed to pick up right where it left off. Things were looking good as it zipped right through converting several folders, until it ended up hanging on another one 8-(. Unlike you, I can't identify anything unique about these folders. Neither is currently in use--one is PMMail and the other Pegasus--they collected mailing list messages briefly while I was comparing those two programs to The Bat! Ah, the Bat! doesn't like it when you read about other mailers. :) Stefan, Maxim...I'm getting desperate! Is there something I can do differently to get through this conversion? Can something be done to make the conversion more robust? If the message bases aren't too big you might ask Stef/Max if you could mail them to Stef/Max. Regards, Markus Using The Bat! 1.42 Beta/6 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Window positions messed up after crash - followup
Hi, a followup on my own post. On Thursday, February 10, 2000, I wrote: The Bat crashed on me (I guess the SMTP server went down while receiving a message) and now the dialog that pops up when I empty a folder is in the lower right hand corner of my screen (where usually my delivery status windows appear). Which registry key do I need to delete? It turned out that now all dialogs (from other apps as well) that usually show up in the center of the screen appear in the lower left corner. What can I do? Regards, Markus Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! - bug report
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.39 Beta/1 Serial Number 4A849B39 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 and would like to report a bug The bug description: Redirecting multiple selected messages using the address selection dialog that pops up creates an access violation: Exception EAccessViolation in module thebat.exe at 30F231BC. Access violation at address 31324400. Read of address 31324400. Steps to reproduce the bug: Select more than one message to redirect and click the re-direct button. A dialog appears giving you the opportunity to open multiple editor windows or select a recipient from the address book. Select the second option and pick an address. Click OK in the address selection dialog. Now click OK on the re-direct dialog and access violation occurs. Regards, Markus Gloede -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OT: EMA
Hi, my name is Markus and I'm also an emailaholic. I don't want to be cured and, what's even better, my job makes me use email a lot. I suggest to other people that need to vindicate their email-dependency to take up a job in Internet related support. And addition to the list on how to find out you're an EMA: Do you have more than six sounds assigned to various kinds of accounts and types of incoming mail? Do you know who sent mail to which of your accounts just by the cacophony played after a bunch of new messages came in? Regards, Markus Using The Bat! 1.38 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --