Re: Filtering

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Gleason,

On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 11:27:29 -0500 GMT (02-Feb-20, 23:27 +0700 GMT),
Gleason wrote:


> MAU,

>> Hello Thomas,

>>> Yes, the keyboard shortcuts are mentioned in the relevant paragraphs,
>>> but I could not find a summary list of keyboard shortcuts. That would
>>> be helpful.

>> Here  is  one: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

>> It  was created 19 years ago and, as I never use keyboard shortcuts, I
>> doubt if it has ever been updated.

> It is interesting that the function that started this thread has been
> available since 2001.  It is true that a keyboard shortcut can be
> useful in a case like this where there isn't any other way to access
> the function.  But when there are 100+ shortcuts many of them arcane
> with multiple key presses, it becomes unlikely that I will remember
> many.

The list was written when there was a focus on users that are visually
impaired and cannot use the mouse. It was important that each function
in TB! was also accessable by keyboard. so, not everybody needs to
remember all these shortcuts.

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Re: Filtering

[Gleason]

MAU,

> Hello Thomas,

>> Yes, the keyboard shortcuts are mentioned in the relevant paragraphs,
>> but I could not find a summary list of keyboard shortcuts. That would
>> be helpful.

> Here  is  one: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

> It  was created 19 years ago and, as I never use keyboard shortcuts, I
> doubt if it has ever been updated.

It is interesting that the function that started this thread has been
available since 2001.  It is true that a keyboard shortcut can be
useful in a case like this where there isn't any other way to access
the function.  But when there are 100+ shortcuts many of them arcane
with multiple key presses, it becomes unlikely that I will remember
many.

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Re: Filtering

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> Yes, the keyboard shortcuts are mentioned in the relevant paragraphs,
> but I could not find a summary list of keyboard shortcuts. That would
> be helpful.

Here  is  one: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html

It  was created 19 years ago and, as I never use keyboard shortcuts, I
doubt if it has ever been updated.


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Re: Filtering

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Thomas,

On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 08:24:10 +0700 GMT (02-Feb-20, 8:24 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> Hello MAU,

> On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 09:54:38 +0100 GMT (01-Feb-20, 15:54 +0700 GMT),
> MAU wrote:

>> Hello Thomas,

>>> I use this extensively, much faster than searches. To undo the
>>> filtering, I use +<=>.

>> Have you tried 'Esc'? :)

> LOL! No, thanks.

This came out wrong. I meant to say: No, I haven't tried, thanks for
the tip!

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Re: Filtering

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 09:57:45 +0100 GMT (01-Feb-20, 15:57 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

> Hello Thomas,

>> Seriously though, I just searched the Help and couldn't find a summary
>> list of keyboard shortcuts.

> But there is a reference to the use of Alt on the Message List: See:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help/68/#6771

> If you scroll down you will read:

[...]

Yes, the keyboard shortcuts are mentioned in the relevant paragraphs,
but I could not find a summary list of keyboard shortcuts. That would
be helpful.

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Re: Filtering

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 09:54:38 +0100 GMT (01-Feb-20, 15:54 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

> Hello Thomas,

>> I use this extensively, much faster than searches. To undo the
>> filtering, I use +<=>.

> Have you tried 'Esc'? :)

LOL! No, thanks.

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Re: Filtering

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Zygmunt,

On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 11:13:22 +0100 GMT (01-Feb-20, 17:13 +0700 GMT),
Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote:

> On Saturday, February 1, 2020, at 17:07:46 [UTC-0800] (Saturday, February
> 1, 2020 02:07 my local time) Ira wrote:

Thomas>>> I use this extensively, much faster than searches. To undo the
Thomas>>> filtering, I use +<=>.


>> Cool. Thanks so much to both of you. That's a very nice hidden
>> feature. Been using TB for at least 6 years and never knew that.

> Additional note:

> The selective display of messages from a 24-hour interval can be obtained by
> clicking the date field while holding down the "Alt" key. The list will then
> show those messages whose creation or receipt time (depending on the date
> clicked) is within 24-hour interval starting from the clicked time.

Interesting. I didn't know that.

> The original appearance of the list can be restored using the "Esc" key, not
> only the "Ctrl+=" combination.

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Re: Filtering

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> Seriously though, I just searched the Help and couldn't find a summary
> list of keyboard shortcuts.

But there is a reference to the use of Alt on the Message List: See:

https://www.ritlabs.com/en/support/help/68/#6771

If you scroll down you will read:

,- [  ]
| Messages can be filtered directly in the message list. For example, if
| you  press  the  Alt  key  and  click the sender’s name, The Bat! will
| display  all  messages  from  this  sender in the current list. If you
| click  the  creation  date,  only messages created on that day will be
| displayed. You can apply this function to the other fields as well. To
| cancel filtering and display all messages, press either the Escape key
| or the Ctrl+= key combination. 
`-


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Re: Filtering

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> I use this extensively, much faster than searches. To undo the
> filtering, I use +<=>.

Have you tried 'Esc'? :)


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Re: Filtering

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Gleason,

On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 20:06:59 -0500 GMT (01-Feb-20, 08:06 +0700 GMT),
Gleason wrote:


> Thomas,

>> Hello MAU,

>> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 19:30:12 +0100 GMT (01-Feb-20, 01:30 +0700 GMT),
>> MAU wrote:

 I was looking at my mail today and accidently did something that
 filtered out everything but the emails from the currently selected
 sender.  View->Display->All Messages got them all back but I can't
 figure out how I did it. Can anyone tell me what I did?

>>> You probably clicked Alt+Selected sender. You can use Alt on any column
>>> uf the message list to filter on a specific Subject, Date, etc.

>> I use this extensively, much faster than searches. To undo the
>> filtering, I use +<=>.

> Fabulous.  Is there a list of these secret functions?

Of course not. They wouldn't be secret any more then, would they? ;-)

Seriously though, I just searched the Help and couldn't find a summary
list of keyboard shortcuts.

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Re: Filtering

[Ira]

Hello Thomas,

Friday, January 31, 2020, 4:08:37 PM, you wrote:

>> You probably clicked Alt+Selected sender. You can use Alt on any column
>> uf the message list to filter on a specific Subject, Date, etc.

Thomas> I use this extensively, much faster than searches. To undo the
Thomas> filtering, I use +<=>.


Cool. Thanks so much to both of you. That's a very nice hidden
feature. Been using TB for at least 6 years and never knew that.

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Re: Filtering

[Gleason]

Thomas,

> Hello MAU,

> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 19:30:12 +0100 GMT (01-Feb-20, 01:30 +0700 GMT),
> MAU wrote:

>>> I was looking at my mail today and accidently did something that
>>> filtered out everything but the emails from the currently selected
>>> sender.  View->Display->All Messages got them all back but I can't
>>> figure out how I did it. Can anyone tell me what I did?

>> You probably clicked Alt+Selected sender. You can use Alt on any column
>> uf the message list to filter on a specific Subject, Date, etc.

> I use this extensively, much faster than searches. To undo the
> filtering, I use +<=>.

Fabulous.  Is there a list of these secret functions?

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Re: Filtering

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 19:30:12 +0100 GMT (01-Feb-20, 01:30 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

>> I was looking at my mail today and accidently did something that
>> filtered out everything but the emails from the currently selected
>> sender.  View->Display->All Messages got them all back but I can't
>> figure out how I did it. Can anyone tell me what I did?

> You probably clicked Alt+Selected sender. You can use Alt on any column
> uf the message list to filter on a specific Subject, Date, etc.

I use this extensively, much faster than searches. To undo the
filtering, I use +<=>.

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Re: Filtering

[MAU]

Hello Ira,

> I was looking at my mail today and accidently did something that
> filtered out everything but the emails from the currently selected
sender.  View->>Display->All Messages got them all back but I can't
> figure out how I did it. Can anyone tell me what I did?

You probably clicked Alt+Selected sender. You can use Alt on any column
uf the message list to filter on a specific Subject, Date, etc.


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Re: Filtering is even more broken

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Stefan,
  A reminder of what Stefan Tanurkov typed on:
  Tuesday, November 06, 2012 at 13:42:58 GMT +0200

ST> What exactly you mean by "losing track"? The only way a filter could
ST> "lose track" of a folder (i.e. the folder's name become unusable) is
ST> that the filter configuration file become corrupted somehow, as I see
ST> it. Could it be the case?

How do I know if it has become corrupt?

Here is the filter:

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [94E92780.01C486BF.28DBFC11.26D0F257]
Name: The\20Bat\20Archive
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`13`0`5\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5CArchive\5CThe\20Bat
IsActive
IsSendQueue
endFilter

I checked the files in the archive folder this morning and there was one that 
was from yesterday and when I refiltered the account it sent all of this thread 
to the archive even though it only started yesterday and it is supposed to only 
send messages older than 5 days.

This is particularly unusual as it is a pop account.

My more concerning issue is with the IMAP accounts that only complete 9 of 
10 transactions. (I mean that it does not seem to filter every one correctly, 
it 
may do them all but it may not). I also have an issue where a manual filter 
sometimes acts twice on the same message.)

I would love to help straighten this out, but it is inconsistent and in part I 
believe that you need to filter many messages at once using moderately 
complicated filters.

BTW, this happens on 2 computers so if things are corrupt it has happened twice.

Let me know what other info I can provide.

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Re: Filtering is even more broken

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Stuart,

SC>   Filtering in this latest beta is even more broken than before. As well as
SC> filters that only work 9 out of 10 times, one of my filters that used to 
work
SC> now quit working the way it should. The filter that used to filter to an 
archive
SC> folder seemed to have lost track of the archive folder.

What exactly you mean by "losing track"? The only way a filter could
"lose track" of a folder (i.e. the folder's name become unusable) is
that the filter configuration file become corrupted somehow, as I see
it. Could it be the case?



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Re: Filtering is even more broken

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> It  is  an  unfortunate  fact  of computer life that any software CAN become
> corrupted,  including  TB and including downloads.  Why not try restoring to
> an earlier version which worked correctly and then install a new download of
> the latest version?

A truly clean solution would be exporting existing filters in
human-readable form, checking they don't have anything strange in them, then
wiping everything connected with TB (including folders in "Application
data" and registry entries), reinstalling and recreating the
profile from scratch and importing the filters.
This guarantees that any internal inconsistencies in the database
that possibly cause the errors will be neutralized.

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Re: Filtering is even more broken

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Stuart,
Monday, November 5, 2012, 3:24:24 PM, among other things, you wrote:

SC>   Filtering in this latest beta is even more broken than before. As well as 
SC> filters that only work 9 out of 10 times, one of my filters that used to 
work
SC> now quit working the way it should. The filter that used to filter to an 
archive
SC> folder seemed to have lost track of the archive folder. When I pointed it 
as the
SC> correct folder it then started filtering messages that did not meet the 
criteria
SC> of older than 5 days.

SC> As someone mentioned earlier this is a very important component of TB and 
if it
SC> does not work consistently it really not anymore useful than Outlook.
>From  the  lack  of response to the above it would seem that your problem is
not  being  experienced  generally.  I certainly have not had new filtering
problems.

It  is  an  unfortunate  fact  of computer life that any software CAN become
corrupted,  including  TB and including downloads.  Why not try restoring to
an earlier version which worked correctly and then install a new download of
the latest version?



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Re: Filtering out messages

[MAU]

Hello Roger,
 
>  I  think  you  are referring to 'Read' filters.  In version 5 these filters
>  are  ONLY  triggered if you use the 'Smart spacebar' to mark the message as
>  having  been read.  Nothing else triggers these filters!  IMHO a retrograde
>  step from version 4.

I fully agree. After so many years of marking the messages as read with
Ctrl+M (or my customised Space bar) it is many times a nonsense having
to scroll through a long message with Smart Space just to mark it as
read.

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Re: Filtering out messages

[Roger Phillips]

Hello RS,
Friday, May 11, 2012, 7:50:11 AM, among other things, you wrote:

RF> Hi Roger,

RF>>> I have set messages to be moved to one folder on arrival from a couple
RF>>> of  POP3 accounts and then other filters are set to be triggered while
RF>>> Reading the e-mail.

RO>>  I   think   you   are  referring to 'Read' filters.  In version 5
RO>> these filters are  ONLY  triggered if you use the 'Smart spacebar'
RO>> to  mark  the message as having  been read.  Nothing else triggers
RO>> these filters!  IMHO a retrograde step from version 4.

RF> Yes, I meant Read Filters.
RF> IMO  CTRL+M  or opening from Mail Ticker should trigger filter as well
RF> (as far as I remember it was like that in v4).

In  version 4 any method to mark a message as having been read would trigger
the Read filter.


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Re: Filtering out messages

[RS (FEDARA)]

Hi Roger,

RF>> I have set messages to be moved to one folder on arrival from a couple
RF>> of  POP3 accounts and then other filters are set to be triggered while
RF>> Reading the e-mail.

RO>  I   think   you   are  referring to 'Read' filters.  In version 5
RO> these filters are  ONLY  triggered if you use the 'Smart spacebar'
RO> to  mark  the message as having  been read.  Nothing else triggers
RO> these filters!  IMHO a retrograde step from version 4.

Yes, I meant Read Filters.
IMO  CTRL+M  or opening from Mail Ticker should trigger filter as well
(as far as I remember it was like that in v4).

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Re: Filtering out messages

[Roger Phillips]

Hello RS,
Friday, May 11, 2012, 4:16:51 AM, among other things, you wrote:

RF> Hi,

RF> I have set messages to be moved to one folder on arrival from a couple
RF> of  POP3 accounts and then other filters are set to be triggered while
RF> Reading the e-mail.

 I  think  you  are referring to 'Read' filters.  In version 5 these filters
 are  ONLY  triggered if you use the 'Smart spacebar' to mark the message as
 having  been read.  Nothing else triggers these filters!  IMHO a retrograde
 step from version 4.

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Re: Filtering problem with release version 5.0.12

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Steve,

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:18:18 +0100 GMT (02/Jun/11, 1:18 AM +0700 GMT),
Steve Harris wrote:

SH> I have already posted a similar bug report.

This is a different issue, albeit also with filters.

SH> Number 0008682

Please always post to complete link, so that it is easy for people to
take a look: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8682

SH> For me the filter flag "mark the message as read" does not always
SH> work in v5 (and all Betas) as it used to without fail in v4

There seem to be many small things in the filtering system that need
to be ironed out.

By the way, your messages don't thread.

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Re: Filtering problem with release version 5.0.12

[Steve Harris]

Hello Bat people :-)

I have already posted a similar bug report.

Number 0008682

For me the filter flag "mark the message as read" does not always work in v5 
(and all Betas) as it used to without fail in v4

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Virtual Folders Issues ('*' in names if edited ; VF re-filtering only after TB! restart ; Incorrect Number of e-mails in VF (=0))

[RS (FEDARA)]

Hi,

1.STARS IN A NAME
When  editing  VF  properties  I  always  get  a  message that name is
improper  -  because it contains characters '*' (* GIVEN_NAME *). Star
is  automatically  added  while VF is created and every time I need to
manually remove them before saving.


2. RE-FILTERING
Re-filtering on the VF takes place only after restart :(
You can change properties but they will be updated after restart.


3. NUMBER OF MESSAGES = 0
I  have 3 VF ; one gives a proper number of messages ; 2 other shows 0
(71  and  120  messages in them). Got it today after pressed CTRL+M to
mark  them  all  read  ; got the same exceptions 10 times in 2 minutes
time and that was it...

Moreover,   TB!   started   to   ask   me  every  few minutes for a
password  to  an  account  that  is set as not to be checked and to be
ignored while check all is pressed.


Date: 27 May 2011 19:03:32
OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 build 7601
PhysMemFreeTotal: 1044/4094 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal: 1843/2047 MB
Address: 004032FF
ClassName: EAccessViolation
Message: Access violation at address 004032FF in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of 
address 00194097
IsOSException: 1
Modules: 
 0040 20110502210501 C:\WINAPPS\INTERNET\The Bat Full\thebat.exe
Stack: 
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Re: 5.0.12 MSI - Exception stops re-filtering & hangs TB

[Tony Hoare]

Hello Maxim,

Monday, May 2, 2011, 10:17:04 PM, you wrote:

> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-12.msi


Date: 03 May 2011 19:44:55
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600
PhysMemFreeTotal: 1394/2047 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal: 1422/2047 MB
CommandLine: "C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe"  /recycle
Address: 00AB0CA8
ClassName: EUnicodeException
Message: A filter fails to copy a message from folder Inbox to SPB AdsBot. The 
destination BaseUID=0
IsOSException: 0
Modules: 
 0040 20110502210501 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe
Stack: 
 00AB0CA8 [0040]
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 00AAFD2D [0040]
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Re: Filtering in 5.0.0.132

[Rick]

> Hallo Rick,

> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:32:34 -0500GMT (27-1-2011, 21:32 , where I
> live), you wrote:

RG>> I don't have "browse deleted messages" and I have never had a message with 
a strike-through..

> See attachment, both active for pop3 and imap accounts

Thanks Roelof - It works here. I was having a brain fart I guess.

I don't care for that implimentation - I liked the old  B :))

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Some stay for awhile and leave footprints on our hearts.
And we are never, ever the same.
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Re: Filtering in 5.0.0.132

[Dwight Corrin]

On Thursday, January 27, 2011, 4:02:53 PM, Raymund Tump wrote:
 
> I searched for it as well. Thing is it is *not* in the context menu of
> a folder 

would be worthwhile spot for it to be available 
  
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Re: Filtering in 5.0.0.132

[Raymund Tump]

Hi Rick,

> I don't have "browse deleted messages" and I have never had a message with a 
> strike-through..
> I have only POP accounts, but I am dealing with common folders

I searched for it as well. Thing is it is *not* in the context menu of
a folder but in the folder menu item.

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Re: Filtering in 5.0.0.132

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Rick,

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:32:34 -0500GMT (27-1-2011, 21:32 , where I
live), you wrote:

RG> I don't have "browse deleted messages" and I have never had a message with 
a strike-through..

See attachment, both active for pop3 and imap accounts

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Re: Filtering in 5.0.0.132

[Rick]

R>> Ok then someone needs to tell me how to do it. I haven't found it anywhere. 

R>> How are you doing it?

> Click on Folder?Browse Deleted messages. They should show up in the message 
> list
> with a strike-through.

I don't have "browse deleted messages" and I have never had a message with a 
strike-through..
I have only POP accounts, but I am dealing with common folders

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Re: Filtering in 5.0.0.132

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Rick,
  A reminder of what Rick typed on:
  Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 10:13:22 GMT -0500

R> Ok then someone needs to tell me how to do it. I haven't found it anywhere. 

R> How are you doing it?

Click on Folder?Browse Deleted messages. They should show up in the message 
list 
with a strike-through.

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Re: Filtering in 5.0.0.132

[Rick]

> On Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 5:57:44 PM, Rick wrote:
>  
>>  I reloaded 4.2 to be able to view deleted messages and got them back. 

> actually,  viewing  deleted  messages  is working fine in the current 
> betas 
>   

Ok then someone needs to tell me how to do it. I haven't found it anywhere. 

How are you doing it?
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Re: Filtering in 5.0.0.132

[Dwight Corrin]

On Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 5:57:44 PM, Rick wrote:
 
>  I reloaded 4.2 to be able to view deleted messages and got them back. 

actually,  viewing  deleted  messages  is working fine in the current 
betas 
  
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Voyager: re-filtering does not work (was: Voyager: refiltering with new filters doesn't work)

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

on  Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:24:40 +0100GMT I wrote:

PM> on  Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:25:25 +0100GMT I wrote:

PM>> I created a couple of new filters for incoming messages and added
PM>> OR conditions to existing ones. None of them works when I refilter the
PM>> inbox.

PM> The subject I chose was not precise. The new filters do work for new
PM> incoming messages, but they don't work for existing messages when I
PM> refilter the inbox. According to the filter log all messages are
PM> processed by the last filter in the row, but they are not treated
PM> according to that filter (which I wouldn't want anyway), but nothing
PM> happens.

Once more replying to myself to say, that it doesn't seem to have
anything to do with *new* filters, but with the re-filter function in
general. I moved some messages from this very list's folder to the
inbox manually and re-filtering did nothing, although the filter had
correctly moved them to their folder when I received them.

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Re: Filtering Inbox and Sent Mail

[MAU]

Hello Gunivortus,

>> You should create Outgoing filters for this. And you may want to
>> consider 'Group filter' like the one I include below.
>
>>  TB! Message Filter 
>> beginFilter
>> UID: [5F3E9A46.01C771F1.43F85958.78B7E4BF]
>> Name: Office\20OZ
>> Filter: {\0D\0A\20`12`ERM\20OZ`0`1\0D\0A}
>> MoveMessage AutoFolder folder
>> \5C\5CERM\20Spain\5COffice\20OZ\5C%ABToName
>> IsActive
>> IsSendQueue
>> endFilter
>
> I'm sorry, I don't understand anything of this.

Select (highlight) the filter in my original message and copy (Ctrl+C)
it. Then open Sorting Office and paste as a new Outgoing filter and you
will be able to see what the new (pasted) filter does.

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Re: Filtering Inbox and Sent Mail

[Gunivortus Goos]

Hi MAU,

> You should create Outgoing filters for this. And you may want to
> consider 'Group filter' like the one I include below.

>  TB! Message Filter 
> beginFilter
> UID: [5F3E9A46.01C771F1.43F85958.78B7E4BF]
> Name: Office\20OZ
> Filter: {\0D\0A\20`12`ERM\20OZ`0`1\0D\0A}
> MoveMessage AutoFolder folder
> \5C\5CERM\20Spain\5COffice\20OZ\5C%ABToName
> IsActive
> IsSendQueue
> endFilter

I'm sorry, I don't understand anything of this.
I just want to filter afterwards for several specific
persons, who don't belong to any group for me.

> You can say that Incoming filters act on Inbox and Outgoing
> filters act on messages that will otherwise be placed in
> Sent Mail folder.

The thing is, I don't want to filter prophylactic, I want to
decide _after_ I get the impression a contact becomes regular.
That needs a certain amount of exchanged messages.

>> That's bad. I don't want to create a filter at the
>> beginning of a conversation with someone, but I'll do
>> that after I notice, that it becomes a regular contact.

> You can do as I suggest above. And also, if you create separate filters
> for each contact, you can always select Sent Mail folder in your folder
> tree, right click on it, select 'Re-filter' and then pick the type of
> filters you want to use to refilter the Sent Mail folder.

Hmm.. yes, that might be the only way to do it.
First creating an outgoing filter for a person, than refilter the
Sent Mail folder and choosing acting like outgoing filters.
Thanks.

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Re: Filtering Inbox and Sent Mail

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Gunivortus,

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:53:36 +0200GMT (17-4-2007, 12:53 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

GG> In previous versions I could filter the Inbox and Sent Mail
GG> folder using the Sorting Office. Now it seems only possible
GG> doing that by hand. and I won't do that. That's Stone-age acting.
GG> The new Incoming and Outgoing filtering is fine, but replacing
GG> it in stead of adding is bad.

I'm not sure what you mean? The filtering system hasn't been changed
for almost three years, you're not saying that you want to go back to
the v1/v2 filtering system, are you?
Besides that system had incoming and outgoing filters too. Only thing
was that you had to enter the source folder, whereas you now may enter
a source folder.

BTW With filtering manually I meant this:
 Select folder -> right mouse button -> Re-filter

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Re: Filtering Inbox and Sent Mail

[Gunivortus Goos]

Hi Roelof,

> But you don't want to filter the Inbox and the Sent Mail
> folder. You want to filter the incoming and the outgoing mail.

No.
I first don't want to create a filter. If a conversation
keeps restricted to a few mails, then using the Inbox
and Sent Mail folders are sufficient. But when, after
awhile, it looks, the contact goes on, then I might
decide to create a filter. That means filtering afterwards,
which I used to do so for many years and it fits me fine
that way.

> Simply create your incoming and outgoing filters.

That can be done for future in- and outgoing messages to
that person.

> When you've done that you filter your Inbox manually

That's what I ment...
In previous versions I could filter the Inbox and Sent Mail
folder using the Sorting Office. Now it seems only possible
doing that by hand. and I won't do that. That's Stone-age acting.
The new Incoming and Outgoing filtering is fine, but replacing
it in stead of adding is bad.

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Re: Filtering Inbox and Sent Mail

[MAU]

Hello Gunivortus,

> I saw my Sent Mail folder contains a lot of messages.
> So I decided to create filters that would move all messages
> to specific people I've just created folders for, to those
> folders.

You should create Outgoing filters for this. And you may want to
consider 'Group filter' like the one I include below. as soon as someone
is added to address book and included in a group, the filter will act on
mail sent to him/her and even create the folder if it doesn't exist yet.

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [5F3E9A46.01C771F1.43F85958.78B7E4BF]
Name: Office\20OZ
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`12`ERM\20OZ`0`1\0D\0A}
MoveMessage AutoFolder folder \5C\5CERM\20Spain\5COffice\20OZ\5C%ABToName
IsActive
IsSendQueue
endFilter

> But I don't see in the Sorting Office the Sent folder
> anymore. And neither the Inbox. There's Ingoing and
> outgoing. Which means IMO, that filtering the Inbox and
> the Sent Mail folder isn't possible anymore using the
> Sorting Office.

You can say that Incoming filters act on Inbox and Outgoing filters act
on messages that will otherwise be placed in Sent Mail folder.

> That's bad. I don't want to create a filter at the
> beginning of a conversation with someone, but I'll do
> that after I notice, that it becomes a regular contact.

You can do as I suggest above. And also, if you create separate filters
for each contact, you can always select Sent Mail folder in your folder
tree, right click on it, select 'Re-filter' and then pick the type of
filters you want to use to refilter the Sent Mail folder. I have done
this not too long ago, when I created 'Group filters' for Incoming,
Outgoing, Read and Replied.

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Re: Filtering Inbox and Sent Mail

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Gunivortus,

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:15:43 +0200GMT (17-4-2007, 12:15 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

GG> But I don't see in the Sorting Office the Sent folder
GG> anymore. And neither the Inbox. There's Ingoing and
GG> outgoing. Which means IMO, that filtering the Inbox and
GG> the Sent Mail folder isn't possible anymore using the
GG> Sorting Office.

But you don't want to filter the Inbox and the Sent Mail folder. You
want to filter the incoming and the outgoing mail.
Simply create your incoming and outgoing filters.
When you've done that you filter your Inbox manually and you'll see
that TB automatically selects the incoming filter set (though you can
override that). Likewise for your sent mail folder.

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Re: Filtering

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Rick,

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 you wrote in 

RG> Now, with no changes, several make it to the central inbox but no
RG> longer filter to other folders. "Re-Filter the folder" and they move
RG> on respectively so the filters are correct (and they are all set to
RG> process other filters)

RG> Anyone else getting this?

Yes, but it's back to normal now. I went through the Sorting Office and
checked my three rogue filters, opening them and verifying that they
were still correct. Didn't change anything but closed TB! and re booted
the computer and now they work as before!

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Re: Filtering using 3.65.04

[Roland Burger]

Hi Roelof,

on Thursday, January 19, 2006 at 19:04 you wrote in message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
among others:


RB>> Instead of "Eingang" they are set to "Inbox" and instead of
RB>> "Versandt" they are set to "Sent!

> Seems to me that it's working okay. No matter whether I'm using the
> Dutch, German or English interface.

But the messages are not filtered in the right folders!

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Re: Filtering using 3.65.04

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Roland,

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:34:58 +0100GMT (19-1-2006, 18:34 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

RB> Instead of "Eingang" they are set to "Inbox" and instead of
RB> "Versandt" they are set to "Sent!

Seems to me that it's working okay. No matter whether I'm using the
Dutch, German or English interface.

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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[MAU]

Hello Tony,

>> But Xav's 'problem' is totally different to the one you had.
>
> Don't quite see how, his don't thread, mine didn't and you pinpointed it to
> reference headers for both of us.
>

Yes, but totally different. If I recall correctly, the threading problem
with your messages was a syntactical one. That is, the References header
in your messages included the right MIDs but they were not enclosed in
brackets (<>) as RFCs suggest. The problem with Xav's message is that
MIDs included in References header (properly enclosed in <>) are _not_
the MIDs of the messages he is replying to, but the MID (converted by his
server?) of a non existing message.


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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Tony Boom]

Hello MAU.

--On 15 June 2005 12:21 +0200 you wrote about Re: OT: Missing references
(Was: Re: Filtering issue):


> But Xav's 'problem' is totally different to the one you had.

Don't quite see how, his don't thread, mine didn't and you pinpointed it to
reference headers for both of us.

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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[MAU]

Hello Tony,

> This threading problem The Bat has seems to be spreading. Poor Xav is
> having trouble with it now, he'll soon be in Boris's "Tony List" :)

But Xav's 'problem' is totally different to the one you had.


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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Tony Boom]

Hello Manuel.

--On 15 June 2005 11:13 +0200 you wrote about Re: OT: Missing references
(Was: Re: Filtering issue):


> ...but Tony, what have you done?

I just made the bed and vacuumed the carpets why?

>  We're currently in the "3.5.26 don't start" thread.

Your point being?  :)



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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Manuel Breitfeld]

Hi Tony,
--<> 15.06.2005 10:02 +0100:

>>> Of course it didn't thread, I made sure of it for demonstration
>>> purposes.
>> 
>> LOL :D
> 
> This threading problem The Bat has seems to be spreading. Poor Xav is
> having trouble with it now, he'll soon be in Boris's "Tony List" :)

Yes, and poor Xav can't just switch to "the perfect" mailer, he already
uses TB! ;-)
...but Tony, what have you done? We're currently in the "3.5.26 don't
start" thread.

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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Tony Boom]

Hello Manuel.

--On 15 June 2005 10:17 +0200 you wrote about Re: OT: Missing references
(Was: Re: Filtering issue):


>>> This doesn't, you're right.
>> 
>> Of course it didn't thread, I made sure of it for demonstration purposes.
> 
> LOL :D

This threading problem The Bat has seems to be spreading. Poor Xav is
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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Manuel Breitfeld]

Hi Tony,
--<> 15.06.2005 08:49 +0100:

>> This doesn't, you're right.
> 
> Of course it didn't thread, I made sure of it for demonstration purposes.

LOL :D

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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Tony Boom]

Hello Manuel.

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(Was: Re: Filtering issue):


> This doesn't, you're right.

Of course it didn't thread, I made sure of it for demonstration purposes.

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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Manuel Breitfeld]

Hi Boris,
--<> 14.06.2005 22:56 +0200:
 
>> All messages by Tony thread fine now.
> 
> Sure? 

This doesn't, you're right. Sent by *great* K-Mail - I'm really not that
involved, I can comment things here.

Everybody is free to delete messages, nobody needs to justify his decision.
So I would just suggest, that you delete what you want to delete, Boris.

Vili has to use the web-interface at some time and this is okay. I like him
seeing participating in the list.

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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Boris Anders]

Hello Manuel,

Manuel Breitfeld wrote (in ):

>> Or did you do already what I'm doing now - add Vili to the "tony -
>> filter".

> Just in case you really have this "tony - filter".

Believe me, I have.

> Tony has changed his provider and actually uses great Fastmail.

Makes my filter more complicate. But thanks for information.

> All messages by Tony thread fine now.

Sure? 


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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Boris Anders]

Hello Tony,

Tony Boom wrote (in ):

>> Just in case you really have this "tony - filter". Tony has changed his
>> provider and actually uses great Fastmail. All messages by Tony thread fine
>> now.

> In fact, it's not too hard to reverse the threading process.

True, in fact it's impossible.


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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Vili]

>> Can you possibly imagine that sometimes someone is FORCED to use
>> other shitty email client, not TB! ??? Can you??
>Some people don't give a damn if your having problems. Just so long as 
>their desktop looks pretty with perfect threading, nice coloured 
icons and 
>God forbid if they should have one of those icons missing.

:) These were the words I was looking for...

>> Bunko vagy baratom, az a velemenyem.
>I have no idea what you just said but it sounds good so I'll second 
it :)

:) It was an abbreviation for the sentences you just wrote in your 
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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Tony Boom]

--On Tuesday, June 14, 2005 19:56:28 + Vili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Can you possibly imagine that sometimes someone is FORCED to use
other shitty email client, not TB! ??? Can you??


Some people don't give a damn if your having problems. Just so long as 
their desktop looks pretty with perfect threading, nice coloured icons and 
God forbid if they should have one of those icons missing.


Just so long as our problems don't interfere with them, just so long as 
they get the help they need without having to lift a finger to help anyone 
else.



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I have no idea what you just said but it sounds good so I'll second it :)

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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Tony Boom]

On Tuesday 14 June 2005 20:18, Manuel Breitfeld wrote:

> Just in case you really have this "tony - filter". Tony has changed his
> provider and actually uses great Fastmail. All messages by Tony thread fine
> now.

In fact, it's not too hard to reverse the threading process.

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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Vili]

>and then this: missing references and no trout. Is it just me,
>who is disturbed by this? Or did you do already what I'm doing now 
- add
>Vili to the "tony - filter".

Whatever you want man, whatever you want... 

Can you possibly imagine that sometimes someone is FORCED to use 
other shitty email client, not TB! ??? Can you?? 

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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Tony Boom]

--On Tuesday, June 14, 2005 21:18:24 +0200 Manuel Breitfeld 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Just in case you really have this "tony - filter". Tony has changed his
provider and actually uses great Fastmail. All messages by Tony thread
fine now.


I had no intention of telling him that, I'd rather he left me in his kill 
filter. I certainly won't be taking him out of mine.


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Re: OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Manuel Breitfeld]

Hi Boris,
--<> 14.06.2005 20:37 +0200:

> Or did you do already what I'm doing now - add Vili to the "tony -
> filter".

Just in case you really have this "tony - filter". Tony has changed his
provider and actually uses great Fastmail. All messages by Tony thread fine
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OT: Missing references (Was: Re: Filtering issue)

[Boris Anders]

Hello All,

first the high traffic on list (which forced me to mark 1.200 messages
as read) and then this: missing references and no trout. Is it just me,
who is disturbed by this? Or did you do already what I'm doing now - add
Vili to the "tony - filter".

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Re: Filtering issue

[Vili]

Hallo Ciprian,

>CT> I didn't see that behavior in older versions of TB! (3.1)
>Just checked on another system, that still has 2.12 running. That
>performs just as I explained.

Roelof is right. It works as it should: you have filters that can 
be active/nonactive and manual/automatic, and you can select Manual 
only at refilter. So:

A1. active and manual, when refilter, you DONT select manual only:
filter works
A2. active and manual, when refilter, you select manual only: filter 
works
B1. active and manual UNCHECKED, when refilter, you DONT select manual 
only: filter works
B2. active and manual UNCHECKED, when refilter, you select manual 
only: filter DOES NOT work
C. not-active with any other combination: filter DOES NOT work

I hope I dont have a typo in it :))

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Re: Filtering issue

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Ciprian,

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:58:09 +0300GMT (14-6-2005, 17:58 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CT> I didn't see that behavior in older versions of TB! (3.1)

Just checked on another system, that still has 2.12 running. That
performs just as I explained.

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Re: Filtering issue

[MAU]

Hello Ciprian,

> Let's say I create a new filter (something ordinary, like moving incoming
> mails from a friend to a separate TB folder). After doing that, I re-filter
> the Inbox and I expect that only active, non-manual folders to be applied.
> Instead, I also get manual filters running. It's very unpleasant.

It is working as designed. When re-filtering, all active filters will be
applied whether they are manual or not. That is, of course, unless you
select "Manual filters only".


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Re: Filtering issue

[Ciprian Trofin]

CT> I have an active filter, configured as "manual". When I re-filter a
CT> folder, the filter is applied even when I don't check "manual filters
CT> only". Is this a bug ?

RO>> The effect of checking 'manual filter only' is that all active filters
RO>> are being used and not only those with the manual bit set.

RO> This should have read 'unchecking' :-(


:(( I didn't see that behavior in older versions of TB! (3.1)

Let's say I create a new filter (something ordinary, like moving incoming
mails from a friend to a separate TB folder). After doing that, I re-filter
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Re: Filtering issue

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Roelof,

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:57:40 +0200GMT (14-6-2005, 15:57 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO> The effect of checking 'manual filter only' is that all active filters
RO> are being used and not only those with the manual bit set.

This should have read 'unchecking' :-(

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Re: Filtering issue

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Ciprian,

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:25:45 +0300GMT (14-6-2005, 15:25 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CT> I have an active filter, configured as "manual". When I re-filter a folder,
CT> the filter is applied even when I don't check "manual filters only". Is
CT> this a bug ?

No, that's no bug. What else do you expect when filtering manually?
The effect of checking 'manual filter only' is that all active filters
are being used and not only those with the manual bit set.

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Re: filtering

[Allie Martin]

On Wednesday, May 04, 2005 at 1:57:29 PM [GMT -0500], Cees wrote:

> filtering in IMAP account still doesn't work. Just created a filter,
> and there are at least 20 mails complying to the string, but they only
> get added to a queue and nothing is happening; they all remain in the
> inbox.

Is this with manual filtering?

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Re: Filtering out large received attachemnts

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Richard,

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:32:06 +0200GMT Richard Wakeford wrote:

RW> I would like to reject all messages with attachments over a certain size
RW> from being downloaded but to leave them on the server so I can see who
RW> they are from as The Bat! connection centre doesn't tell you who the
RW> message is from until it's downloaded, and then it's 50 minutes too
RW> late!

Go to account properties/mail management. There you can tick 'receive
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Re: Filtering out large received attachemnts

[Dimitry Andric]

On 2005-04-07 at 21:32:06 Richard Wakeford wrote:

> I would like to reject all messages with attachments over a certain size
> from being downloaded but to leave them on the server so I can see who

Account | Properties | Mail Management | check "Receive header only if
message size is greater than XXX kB, isn't that what you want?

There's also an option to automatically delete large messages, but
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Re: filtering email with IMAP-account not working

[Manuel Breitfeld]

Hey Cees,

yesterday (on 03/18/2005 at 23:30) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>   why is that filtering email with IMAP-account is not working?
Hmm, mine are working. A few are:
Incoming:
- Moving into folder if Sender is in AB.

Outgoing:
- Moving into folder if all recipients are in AB.
- Moving into folder if recipient is ...


>   It's just an ordinary filter, but no matter what: it won't work.
What is it?

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Re: filtering email with IMAP-account not working

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>   why is that filtering email with IMAP-account is not working?
>   It's just an ordinary filter, but no matter what: it won't work.

I can confirm that here too.  Also I created a new folder for 
mailing list messages that did not get created on the server.
My extensive imap folder hierarchy does not get loaded when
TB first starts until I open and close the "Manage Imap Folders" 
window.  Many of those chooser windows open with the selections
reversed.  Manage Imap folders opens with the subscribed folders
marked unsubscribed and vice versa.

Lots of other little things.  This is an alpha after all.  It looks to 
me like Rit broke a lot of things in the process of trying to fix
the task manager.  The task manager is a lot better, but still
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Re: filtering for virtual folder

[MAU]

Hello Jan,

> virtual folder 2 for msgs w color "A" doesn't seem to pull in those
> that also happen to be flagged.

It should. Have you tried a manual Refresh?

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Re: Filtering VFs by received date

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Thursday, February 10, 2005, 14:35, Marcus Ohlström wrote:

> In addition to the current possibility to filter VFs by message age, I
> would like to be able to filter based on how many days ago a message
> was received.

Better late then never:

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Re: Filtering VFs by received date

[Peter Fjelsten]

Marcus,

On 10-02-2005 20:48, you [MO] wrote in
:

MO> Well, are there any BT items, or should I add two (I'll do the work
MO> for you Peter)?

I don't know, but please add the wish - it'll will save me some
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Re: Filtering VFs by received date

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Thursday, February 10, 2005, 19:57, Peter Fjelsten wrote:

RP>> If you use two filters, one for 'AGE' greater than, 'AND' and a
RP>> second one for 'AGE' less than, should give you only mail a
RP>> particular day.

> Am I the only one who would also like to be able to select hours for
> "age"?

Would be great too.

Well, are there any BT items, or should I add two (I'll do the work for
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Re: Filtering VFs by received date

[Peter Fjelsten]

Roger,

On 10-02-2005 19:13, you [RP] wrote in
:
RP> If you use two filters, one for 'AGE' greater than, 'AND' and a
RP> second one for 'AGE' less than, should give you only mail a
RP> particular day.

Am I the only one who would also like to be able to select hours for
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Re: Filtering VFs by received date

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Thursday, February 10, 2005, 19:13, Roger Phillips wrote:

MO>> In addition to the current possibility to filter VFs by message
MO>> age, I would like to be able to filter based on how many days ago a
MO>> message was received.

> If you use two filters, one for 'AGE' greater than, 'AND' and a second
> one for 'AGE' less than, should give you only mail a particular day.
> For example greater than 3 days and less than 5 days should give you
> only mail which is four days old. Will this not give you what you
> require?

No, I want to view all mails received more than x days ago.

> I'm  not certain though whether this option looks at the received date
> or the created date.

'age' uses the creation date and that is my problem. I want to filter
based on received date and there is currently no way to set up a filter
that shows all messages *received* more than x days ago. Unless I use
'date of', but then I have to edit the filter daily since there is no
way to specify relative values using 'date of'.

I hope I made myself more clear.

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Re: Filtering VFs by received date

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Marcus,

Thursday, February 10, 2005, 3:35:24 PM, among other things, you wrote:

MO> In addition to the current possibility to filter VFs by message age, I
MO> would like to be able to filter based on how many days ago a message was
MO> received.

If  you  use two filters, one for 'AGE' greater than, 'AND' and a second one
for  'AGE' less than, should give you only mail a particular day.  For
example  greater than 3 days and less than 5 days should give you only
mail which is four days old.  Will this not give you what you require?

I'm  not certain though whether this option looks at the received date
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Re: Filtering problem...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Friday, December 24, 2004, 16:52, Thorvald Neumann wrote:
> Ok, to whom do I have to mail my "problem"...? It is quite annoying.

I now collected a few emails, which sneak past my filters.

Anybody know to which developer I could send those for inspection and
to clarify if there is a bug within the NFS?

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Friday, December 24, 2004, 10:15, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
> Well, since it only happens on new mail retrieval and works when you
> re-filter manually, maybe the dev's should really look at those messages
> that slip thru...

Ok, to whom do I have to mail my "problem"...? It is quite annoying.

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Friday, December 24, 2004, 14:27, Thorvald Neumann wrote:
> I am not sure where the light blue colouring comes from. *puzzled*

I just noticed, when I "read" such a mail, it will change the colour
to the specific SPAM colouring.

I just checked my colour group settings and there are the same colours
defined for unread and read mail.

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Very, very strange...

The messages now get somehow marked with a colour group which I
certainly did not define (but are not moved nor marked as read). See
the attached PNGs.

I am not sure where the light blue colouring comes from. *puzzled*

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Friday, December 24, 2004, 10:15, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
> Well, since it only happens on new mail retrieval and works when you
> re-filter manually, maybe the dev's should really look at those messages
> that slip thru...

I have now setup two global filters, one looking for
X-Text-Classification: junk and one for scanning the subject for
the word SPAM.

If this does not help, I will send the mails to the devs. Meanwhile, I
collect them... :)

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Thorvald Neumann & everyone else,

on 24-Dez-2004 at 10:00 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote:

> The problem is still there.

> At the moment, the filter moves 8 out of 10 spam mails to the junk
> folder. ;(

> I have no idea why this behaviour started two or three days ago.

Well, since it only happens on new mail retrieval and works when you
re-filter manually, maybe the dev's should really look at those messages
that slip thru...

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Friday, December 24, 2004, 08:32, Thorvald Neumann wrote:
> I will move the account filter to the commons... Hopefully this
> helps...

The problem is still there.

At the moment, the filter moves 8 out of 10 spam mails to the junk
folder. ;(

I have no idea why this behaviour started two or three days ago.

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

So, I had all my common filters disabled and some SPAM mails are
slipping by the account filter... ;(

I will move the account filter to the commons... Hopefully this
helps...

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Thorvald Neumann & everyone else,

on 23-Dez-2004 at 19:07 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote:

> If this does not help, I will move the spam filter to the common
> filter list and watch this... ;)

Thats how I do it (the filter that watches K9's header is a common filter).

Since you can manually re-filter and it works, I'm trying to reproduce the
behaviour with the .msg files you sent as PM by re-directing them to myself
& then see what happens... haven't done that yet, however. :-)

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Thursday, December 23, 2004, 19:03, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
> And, are the messages "touched" by a common filter before?

Normally not.

[Another two spam mails just slipped by... ]

I now disabled all common filters (just two so far) and let's see if
this helps.

If this does not help, I will move the spam filter to the common
filter list and watch this... ;)

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Thorvald Neumann & everyone else,

on 23-Dez-2004 at 15:35 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote:

>> Uh. Now thats odd. Is it a common filter, or an account filter?

> Account filter.

And, are the messages "touched" by a common filter before?

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Thursday, December 23, 2004, 13:51, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
> Uh. Now thats odd. Is it a common filter, or an account filter?

Account filter.

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Thorvald Neumann & everyone else,

on 23-Dez-2004 at 12:03 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote:

> BTW, using manual refiltering (with "contain" or "starts with"), the
> messages get filtered as intended.

Uh. Now thats odd. Is it a common filter, or an account filter?

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Here is a snip from the log, showing my filter works, but one message
(the one from "marvin ochs") is not filtered:

 23.12.2004, 09:33:38: FETCH - Received message from Evelyn Calhoun <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>, size: 6274 bytes, subject: "[SPAM] Never been esaier"
 23.12.2004, 09:33:38: FETCH - Received message from Georgia W Mansfield 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size: 2299 bytes, subject: "[SPAM] jobs are for those of 
us with di plo mas"
>23.12.2004, 09:33:39: FETCH - received message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (6274 
>bytes) (processed by "SPAM"), URL: msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>23.12.2004, 09:33:39: FETCH - received message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2299 
>bytes) (processed by "SPAM"), URL: msgid:?folder=\\\$JUNK$
 23.12.2004, 09:33:39: FETCH - 2 messages deleted on server
 23.12.2004, 09:33:39: FETCH - connection finished - 2 messages received
 23.12.2004, 09:40:37: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 23.12.2004, 09:40:37: FETCH - connected to POP3 server
 23.12.2004, 09:40:37: FETCH - authenticated (plain)
 23.12.2004, 09:40:38: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 1 new
 23.12.2004, 09:40:38: FETCH - Received message from marvin ochs <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>, size: 7276 bytes, subject: "[SPAM]   we are here for you 24/7 
gaseous"
 23.12.2004, 09:40:38: FETCH - 1 messages deleted on server
 23.12.2004, 09:40:38: FETCH - connection finished - 1 messages received


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Re: Filtering problem...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Thursday, December 23, 2004, 11:47, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
> (notice I have "starts with" as condition) - but no other difference.

I changed it to "starts with"...

BTW, using manual refiltering (with "contain" or "starts with"), the
messages get filtered as intended.

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Thorvald Neumann & everyone else,

on 23-Dez-2004 at 09:54 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote:

> This happens today, too. :-(
> Some mails are filtered, some are not.
> Anybody else noticed this behaviour?

I'm (back) using K9 (again), just like you... my condition in the spam
filter is

  Header Field: "x-text-classification" starts with: "spam"

(notice I have "starts with" as condition) - but no other difference.

FWIW, even though it doesn't seem to matter, I have arranged the actions in
my filter(s) to follow a more "logical" flow, that ist, 1st mark as read -
2nd set color group - 3rd move the message (this has been discussed at
length here and I don't want to start the argument again, its ok like it is
for me).

Just an idea: I'd try to export the message, remove all unnecessary headers
(like the lengthy info headers from Spam Assassin) with an editor and try
to filter again after importing the headerwise stripped down message.

Additionally, if you want to, you can send me the original messages that
don't want to be filtered and I'll try to reproduce it here.

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Re: Filtering problem...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

This happens today, too. :-(

Some mails are filtered, some are not.

Anybody else noticed this behaviour?

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Re: filtering attachments

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Chris,

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:36:33 -0400GMT Chris wrote:

C> example I want to move all messages with .exe attachments to a
C> different folder.  Is this possile?

yes, should be easy. Create a new filter with the condition "File
matching mask exe is attached" and under actions choose the directory
or the folder where you want to store the mail.

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Re: filtering for yahoogroups problem

[Dimitry Andric]

On 2004-10-10 at 17:56:16 Jan Rifkinson wrote:

> Mailing-List: list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Precedence: bulk
> List-Unsubscribe: 

You can use any of the "Mailing-List", "Delivered-To" or
"List-Unsubscribe" headers.  In my own filters for such messages, I
use the "Mailing-List" header.


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Re: Filtering on empty messages

[MaXxX]

On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 1:51:27 PM, Mogens Holst has created
a mail:

> Is is possible to filter on the content of the html part?

Or on RAW DATA, perhaps?

That'd be really nice. The whole message, headers, raw body,
everything, not even uu-decoded or anything.

One vote from me. Next! :)

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