On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:26:07 +0200, Jurgen Haug
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
somehow the server kills all headers it doesn't like. I can't use
the chat
functionality of TB!. (or maybe I haven't turned it on properly???)
Apparently, this is an Exchange issue (I've fiddled around with it
I have no chance to check 'till tonight, but what happens if I exit The Bat! without
changing folder?
Gabor
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allie Martin
Sent: 2004. augusztus 24. 0:42
To: Kovács P. Gábor on TBUDL
Subject: Re: IMAP
Hi Marek,
Let me fiddle a bit with BeginUpdateResource() (on my own DLL's,
natch). If I can resolve this for myself, I think that's better.
Willing to share, but the code/runtime will be Visual Objects/xBase.
--
Thanks,
David
Win][k sp4
TheBat 2.11
MM Hello all,
MM only way is prepare
ON Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 7:38:22 AM, you wrote:
MT Checked the above, I have no ticks next to add addresses to address
MT book in any of my filters. Does TB add the address histories to the
MT address book?
Hi Matt,
I am not sure what you mean by address histories. Can you explain?
Also
Hello Michael,
On 24 Aug 2004 at 21:48:35 -0700 GMT [06:48 CEST] you wrote:
MLW How can I tell the score of individual messages using BayesIT 5.11? I
MLW have looked in BayesIT.log and cannot figure it out. Any assistance
MLW would be appreciated.
Graham: 1
Spam-grade: 1
That's the spam
Hi Marck,
MDP Dear David,
MDP @24-Aug-2004, 10:42 +0200 (24-Aug 09:42 UK time) David Earl said
to
MDP Marek:
MDP This is a fourth time of asking. Please re-read the list rules.
Let me fiddle a bit with BeginUpdateResource() (on my own DLL's,
natch). If I can resolve this for myself, I think
Kovacs P., Gabor, [KPG] wrote:
I have no chance to check 'till tonight, but what happens if I
exit The Bat! without changing folder?
I don't know. Compression/expunging on exit is an explicit command
that TB! doesn't have a switch for. I don't know if it's done
automatically. You'd have to
Zonnet, [Z] wrote:
MT ... Does TB add the address histories to the address book?
No.
I am not sure what you mean by address histories. Can you explain?
When you enter addresses in the To: field, they're stored for
auto-matching. Select one of the address fields in the editor and then
click on
Matt Thoene, [MT] wrote:
How do I turn off the feature that automatically adds addresses to
my address book?
There's no such switch in TB!.
I see that you wrote that you have no filter defined that auto-adds
addresses.
This makes me wonder if you're using an anti-spam plugin that uses
white
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Andre Wichartz
wrote the following in regards to BayesIT scoring:
AW Graham: 1
AW Spam-grade: 1
AW That's the spam probability (don't ask me for the difference of the
AW two)
AW Value for The Bat!: 99
AW That's the score that's given two tb! for
As Drago walked through cyberspace, he tripped on this message from Michael L.
Wilson which was posted on 24/08/2004 04:47:10 in gmane.mail.the-bat.user
=
Spam Stats, last 24 hours (%BAYESITVERSION)
Total Spam Emails: %STATSPAMLETTERS(24)
Total
As Drago walked through cyberspace, he tripped on this message from Robin Anson
which was posted on 24/08/2004 04:53:47 in gmane.mail.the-bat.user
Then the correct calculations are:
Percentage BayesIT guessed wrong = 100*%e/(%s+%n)
Percentage BayesIT guessed right = 100*(1-%e/(%s+%n))
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 1:38:22 AM, Matt wrote:
MT On Monday, August 23, 2004 @ 12:25:18 PM [-0700], Zonnet wrote:
That is not a feature of TB! but can be achieved by creating a special
filter. You either have done this yourself (by axident ?) or someone is
playing a trick on you.
Look
On Monday, August 23, 2004 it appears that Michael L. Wilson
wrote the following in regards to BayeIT Macros:
MLW My current macro set is
MLW =
MLW Spam Stats, last 24 hours (%BAYESITVERSION)
MLW Total Spam Emails: %STATSPAMLETTERS(24)
MLW Total Clean
Hello Jan,
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Jan mused about BayeIT Macros (at least in
part):
JR Michael, Sorry to be dense but what does this QT macro look at how
JR do you use it -- as an run an external -- if so where do you place
JR it? TIA .
This QT macro shows the current status of BayesIT, the
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Michael L. Wilson
wrote the following in reply to my comments re: BayeIT Macros:
MLW JR Michael, Sorry to be dense but what does this QT macro look at how
MLW JR do you use it -- as an run an external -- if so where do you place
MLW JR it? TIA .
MLW
Hello Jan,
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Jan mused about BayeIT Macros (at least in
part):
JR Understand that. But what I'm trying to find out is what is the
JR macro looking at? Incoming mail? Is it part of a filter action?
JR Thanks for taking the time to reply to my question(s).
There is no
Monday, August 23, 2004, 5:57:12 PM, you wrote:
JK I've just started using TB and I like it, but I have an issue with
JK external links (clicking on a url in a message). One problem is that
JK it opens the browser twice instead of just once.
First, welcome to the list, Jim.
The problem is
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Michael L. Wilson
wrote the following in reply to my comments re: BayeIT Macros:
MLW There is no filter action, except the filters built into BayesIT. As
MLW BayesIT works, it is constantly updating its records and database to
MLW be current. At any
Hello Jan,
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Jan mused about BayeIT Macros (at least in
part):
JR I do use other filters to move obvious spam to my spam folder,
JR thereby bypassing the BayesIT filter. Could that explain the
JR difference between the real #s the reported #s?
I let BayesIT filter
ON Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 6:10:24 PM, you wrote:
JR I do use other filters to move obvious spam to my spam folder,
JR thereby bypassing the BayesIT filter. Could that explain the
JR difference between the real #s the reported #s?
Hi Jan,
I don't think you are bypassing BasesIT.
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Michael L. Wilson
wrote the following in regards to BayeIT Macros:
MLW I let BayesIT filter everything that is spam. I use no external
MLW notifier, and no internal spam filters. Therefore, that could be the
MLW problem
And I see from your stats,
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Zonnet
wrote the following in reply to my comments re: BayeIT Macros:
Z JR I do use other filters to move obvious spam to my spam folder,
Z JR thereby bypassing the BayesIT filter. Could that explain the
Z JR difference between the real #s the
Hello Michael L. Wilson,
can you please cut down the size of your signature? 3 lines of your text:
I let BayesIT filter everything that is spam. I use no external
notifier, and no internal spam filters. Therefore, that could be the
problem
followed by 20 lines of signature is a bit out of
Hello Jan Rifkinson,
24-Aug-2004 18:33, you wrote:
Hi Gerard. If that's the case, then do you have any ideas to explain
the difference between the BayesIT stats the # of junk emails I
have in my current file?
Do you have your own filters that deal with junk email, too? If those
aren't
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 12:04:51 PM, you wrote:
Here's why I want it this way (in the hopes that someone can offer an alternative
solution if they think of
it). I've just switched to TB from Netscape's mail client. I read my news from email
alerts that have links,
so when I click on a
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Alexander S. Kunz
wrote the following in reply to my comments re: BayeIT Macros:
ASK 24-Aug-2004 18:33, you wrote:
Hi Gerard. If that's the case, then do you have any ideas to explain
the difference between the BayesIT stats the # of junk emails I
Jim Kling @ 2004-Aug-24 1:22:03 PM
external links mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I forgot a rather obvious point. The *reason* that I want the
articles to open in a different browser than the one I use for most
purposes (Firefox) is to keep news articles separate and easy to
find. I just go to the
Hello Jan,
On 24 Aug 2004 at 08:14:15 -0400 GMT [14:14 CEST] you wrote:
JR Are you saying that the black/white list rules are basically +/- 99
No, I wasn't speaking about blacklists at all. I think whitlisted mails
get a score of 0, blacklisted of 100 and the rest is 1..99.
--
Cheers,
Andre
Hello Michael,
On 24 Aug 2004 at 20:47:10 -0700 GMT [05:47 CEST] you wrote:
MLW My current macro set is
MLW =
MLW Spam Stats, last 24 hours (%BAYESITVERSION)
MLW Total Spam Emails: %STATSPAMLETTERS(24)
MLW Total Clean Emails: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(24)
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Zonnet
wrote the following in regards to BayeIT Macros:
Z ON Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 7:25:53 PM, you wrote:
Z JR Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11)
Z JR Total Spam Emails: 2
Z JR Total Clean Emails: 186
Z JR BayesIT guessed right 99.5% of the
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 2:02:54 PM, you wrote:
Let me offer a different solution. Investigate an RSS client. It will
let you manage your news feed easily. Most of the have built in
browsers (or IE host controls) so reading the full articles is easy.
My favorite RSS reader is built into
On Tue 24 August 2004, 12:30:49 +1000, Drago wrote:
if my total spam is 270 and total clean is 246, shouldn't my spam percentage
be 51% - 52% since my overall spam percentage is greater than clean or is the
270 my complete mails, 246 clean and the 24 left over spam
Might be a newbie
Hello tbudl,
I've been using the Bat for years but haven't yet upgraded
to v2.
What's the proper routine for upgrading? I seem to remember I
read something on the Ritlabs site about just installing v2
over the old version, in the same folder? Can't find that
recommendation now, though.
--
Best
Hello Jan Rifkinson,
24-Aug-2004 19:25, you wrote:
Spam Stats, last 24 hours (BayesIt! 0.5.11)
Total Spam Emails: 2
Total Clean Emails: 186
BayesIT guessed right 99.5% of the time
My email is 1.06383% spam
Now what?
Apparently, something is pretty wrong with the Bayesit stats. :-}
[my
ON Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 9:09:51 PM, you wrote:
JR And I don't know what wrong function you refer to? What do you
JR mean?
Hi Jan,
I have been playing with BayesIT functions myself. Here is a list I known
is available:
,- [ ]
| Spam Letters:%STATSPAMLETTERS(48)
| Spam traffic:
Hello Jan Rifkinson,
24-Aug-2004 21:09, you wrote:
Z I am not sure how BayesIT calculates the guessed right statistic but
Z I would assume that it looks at how many Spam or Ham msg you correct by
Z using the mark as (NOT) junk function.
Geez, why would I do that? I'd be busy most of my day.
Hello Östen Häggmark,
24-Aug-2004 21:34, you wrote:
What's the proper routine for upgrading? I seem to remember I
read something on the Ritlabs site about just installing v2
over the old version, in the same folder? Can't find that
recommendation now, though.
But the recommendation is valid
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Zonnet
wrote the following in regards to BayeIT Macros:
Z ,- [ ]
Z | Spam Letters:%STATSPAMLETTERS(48)
Z | Spam traffic: %STATSPAMTRAFFIC(48)
Z | Stat no spam leters: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(48)
Z | Stat no spam Trafic: %STATNONSPAMTRAFFIC(48)
Z | Stat
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Alexander S. Kunz
wrote the following in regards to BayeIT Macros:
ASK If I were you, I'd disable your own filters that catch spam temporarily, and
ASK only train BayesIt for a while. After all, it is a *learning* filter that
ASK increases in precision
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
But the recommendation is valid
OK thanks. I'll try it tomorrow if no one has any further
objections... :-)
--
Regards,
Östen Häggmark mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TB! 1.62r S/N A7AB7B03, Windows 98 4.10
Where can I find the latest version of BayesIt for download?
The site given in Plugin-BayesIt is a Russian language page of Ritlab.
TIA
--
Best regards,
Peter Kerekes (Toronto, Canada)
A synonym is a word you use when you can't spell
the word you first thought of.
-- Burt
Decided to start all over again.
Deleted all evidences of Bayesit! files and downloaded 0.5.9 from savagenews.com
UnRARred it to a subdirectory of TheBat!, opened TheBat! and added it as a plug-in.
It said was successful, that it had created some initial files and told me to click OK
I did.
Hallo Östen,
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:29:46 +0200GMT (24-8-2004, 22:29 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
But the recommendation is valid
sH OK thanks. I'll try it tomorrow if no one has any further
sH objections... :-)
Don't wait for any objections. It's always been Ritlabs preferred
update
Hi Jim,
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 12:04:51 PM, you wrote:
JK But a new problem has developed. Whenever I click on a url in TB, a
JK new Netscape window opens rather than using the same one. Is there a
JK way to fix this?
Go to Control Panel / Internet Options / Advanced / Browsing and put a
Hello Jan,
On 24 Aug 2004 at 16:01:13 -0400 GMT [22:01 CEST] you wrote:
JR Yes, of course you are right about your second poing but, just to
JR be stubborn for one more moment, If BayesIT filters see msgs
JR before TB! filters then this would not be necessary, right? And I
JR can't get a
Hello Peter,
On 24 Aug 2004 at 16:58:43 -0400 GMT [22:58 CEST] you wrote:
PK Where can I find the latest version of BayesIt for download?
PK The site given in Plugin-BayesIt is a Russian language page of Ritlab.
PK TIA
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit0511.rar
--
Cheers,
Hello Zonnet,
On 24 Aug 2004 at 21:52:57 +0200 GMT [21:52 CEST] you wrote:
Z ,- [ ]
Z | Spam Letters:%STATSPAMLETTERS(48)
Z | Spam traffic: %STATSPAMTRAFFIC(48)
Z | Stat no spam leters: %STATNONSPAMLETTERS(48)
Z | Stat no spam Trafic: %STATNONSPAMTRAFFIC(48)
Z | Stat spam letters:
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 5:53:30 PM, you wrote:
JK But a new problem has developed. Whenever I click on a url in TB, a
JK new Netscape window opens rather than using the same one. Is there a
JK way to fix this?
Go to Control Panel / Internet Options / Advanced / Browsing and put a
check
Jim Kling @ 2004-Aug-24 3:16:36 PM
external links mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hmm...well, the first problem is I'm not that technical, so .NET Framework went way
over my head.
Well, I'm a programmer (just look at my bug reports). The .NET
Framework is a 25 MB download that lets you run certain
Perry Nelson @ 2004-Aug-24 5:53:30 PM
external links mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Go to Control Panel / Internet Options / Advanced / Browsing and put
a check mark beside reuse Windows for launching shortcuts and see
if that doesn't do what you want.
I don't remember if that works for Netscape. I
Jim Kling @ 2004-Aug-24 6:09:44 PM
external links mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RSS seem like they could be really useful, but aren't they limited
to sites that set themselves up to provide RSS feeds?
There are some sites that will generate a RSS feed from a HTML page. I
have never used one, but
Hi Jim,
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 6:09:44 PM, you wrote:
Go to Control Panel / Internet Options / Advanced / Browsing etc...
JK Seems to be already checked.
Bummer. I thought that might solve your problem. As Chris suggests,
I'd search around in the Preferences dialog in Netscape. I
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that Andre Wichartz
wrote the following in reply to my comments re: to BayeIT Macros:
AW [snip] If BayesIT filters see msgs
AW JR before TB! filters then this would not be necessary, right? And I
AW JR can't get a definite answer to this question yet.
On Tuesday, August 24, 2004 it appears that subscriber2list
wrote the following in regards to Can I access Usenet (nntp) groups using TBat!?:
s [snip] what news reader software (preferably on the free side, but
s ... ) do you folks use/recommend? [/snip]
Xnews
http://xnews.newsguy.com/
--
Hello subscriber2list,
I found nothing in the Help section and read a few emails in the
Archives, but most of the emails dealt with Gmane list activity.
Yes, you can access Usenet with TB using MyGate, which you can find at:
http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/
I've been using it for almost
Hello Andre,
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 5:59:29 PM, you wrote:
AW Hello Peter,
AW On 24 Aug 2004 at 16:58:43 -0400 GMT [22:58 CEST] you wrote:
PK Where can I find the latest version of BayesIt for download?
PK The site given in Plugin-BayesIt is a Russian language page of Ritlab.
PK TIA
AW
I have been using LDIF export from the address book as a backup
mechanism and to transfer info to other programs. Tonight I looked
very closely at the LDIF file after I began to get strange results in
a reporting program. Out of 135 entries 3 had gibberish for the street
address
Plan9 @ 2004-Aug-24 10:29:43 PM
LDIF errors mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have been using LDIF export from the address book as a backup
mechanism and to transfer info to other programs. Tonight I looked
very closely at the LDIF file after I began to get strange results
in a reporting program. Out
Tuesday, August 24, 2004, 10:43:02 PM, Chris wrote:
The 3 homePostalAddress lines looked like this:
homePostalAddress:: NjgyNSBIaWxscyBEci4NCg==
homePostalAddress:: MVM2ODYgR3JlZW5icmlhciBEci4NCg==
homePostalAddress::
MTU5IEluZGlhIFN0cmVldCwgIEFwdCAzTCANCkJyb29rbHluLCBOWSAgMTEyMjItMTcxOA==
Plan9 @ 2004-Aug-24 11:23:16 PM
LDIF errors mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The 3 homePostalAddress lines looked like this:
homePostalAddress:: NjgyNSBIaWxscyBEci4NCg==
homePostalAddress:: MVM2ODYgR3JlZW5icmlhciBEci4NCg==
homePostalAddress::
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