Re: BayesIt blocking mail import

2005-03-31 Thread Scott Frederick
. The problem lies elsewhere. I tried transferring most of my BayesIt installation from the old machine in order to preserve the training so perhaps there is something amiss with one of the configuration files. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat

Re[2]: BayesIt blocking mail import

2005-03-31 Thread MikeD (3)
. SF I tried that. There are no new messages with malformed headers. SF The problem lies elsewhere. Oh well ... sigh SF I tried transferring most of my BayesIt installation from the old SF machine in order to preserve the training so perhaps there is SF something amiss with one

Re: BayesIt blocking mail import

2005-03-30 Thread Scott Frederick
Hello MikeD, Tuesday, March 29, 2005, 11:49:39 AM, you wrote: M3 Occasionally, that won't work and I have to do one extra M3 step. After I have deleted BayesIt, I have to connect and get M3 mail once. After that I can re-add BayesIt and it will work M3 fine for a while again. It works this way

Re[2]: BayesIt blocking mail import

2005-03-30 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Scott, Wednesday, March 30, 2005, 4:02:02 AM, you wrote: SF Hello MikeD, SF Tuesday, March 29, 2005, 11:49:39 AM, you wrote: M3 I am not sure if the problem is triggered by a certain email M3 message format or not. But my *guess* is that it has M3 something to do with a miss-formed

Re: BayesIt blocking mail import

2005-03-30 Thread Scott Frederick
Hello MikeD, Wednesday, March 30, 2005, 5:08:46 AM, you wrote: M3 I would be interested in hearing what (if anything) you find out. It seems to be 2 accounts (rest OK) and the problem is consistent, ie the mail is blocked every time. Also the Connection Center locks up evry time so I have to

BayesIt blocking mail import

2005-03-29 Thread Scott Frederick
Hello TBUDL, I just clean installed everything, and imported my installation from a backup, but now BayesIt is giving me trouble. Sometimes all my messages will download but not be imported, then the connection centre just hangs. If I remove the plugin everything works fine (except

Re: BayesIt blocking mail import

2005-03-29 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Scott, Tuesday, March 29, 2005, 12:02:41 PM, you wrote: SF Hello TBUDL, SF I just clean installed everything, and imported my installation SF from a backup, but now BayesIt is giving me trouble. SF Sometimes all my messages will download but not be imported, SF then the connection

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-23 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Roman Katzer everyone else, on 21-Feb-2005 at 18:25 you (Roman Katzer) wrote: I set up K9 and had it at 95% accuracy in about a week's training. It has improved since. I resetted my K9 stats after 100 days (nice that it supports two stats), stat1, 105 days now, 98.5% accuracy (which

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-23 Thread Roman Katzer
On Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 13:01:57, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Mr. SANI BAKOYO, the bank Manager Of Africa Continentale Bank Lagos Nigeria ... would not like this. :-) :-) :-) He doesn't. Would you _believe_ it, he even wrote me under a _false_ _name_ now! The world is bad... Roman

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-22 Thread Barry
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:07:21 +, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Attachments are allowed but only up to a list maximum of 25kb. TBBETA has a higher ceiling of 40kb. Thanks Marck, I stand corrected, and attached is my blacklist of RegEx filters for Bayesit. Feel free to try at your own risk

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-22 Thread Barry
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:16:45 +0100, Dick H wrote: Hello Barry, On Monday, February 21, 2005 at 09:01:40 GMT + (which was 10:01:40 where I live), Barry wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of More observation on Bayesit!: Hi Well I'm still persevering! I've now

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-22 Thread Barry
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:25:18 -0500, Roman Katzer wrote: Furthermore: I never got BayesIt to work. The fact that there doesn't seem to be documentation doesn't help. Even when the German magazine c't (highly respected) tested several mail programs and their spam filtering capabilities

Re: More observation on Bayesit! - blacklist.txt (1/1) uuEncoded 8061 bytes

2005-02-22 Thread Barry
filters for Bayesit. Feel free to try at your own risk!! Hmmm? Well, it was attached when it left me! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release begin 644 blacklist.txt M#0HC6S%=(%9I86=R82!;4UT-E-U8FIE8W0@;6%T8VAER`Z=EM5U]=S`L M,GU

More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-21 Thread Barry
Hi Well I'm still persevering! I've now transcribed 83 different regex rules over to Bayesit. I extracted them from my copy of MailWasher. This seems to have made a dramatic improvement in spam catching. I've now reduced the spam failures from 100% (really!) to below 54% in two days. Looking

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-21 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Barry, A reminder of what Barry on TBUDL typed on: 21 February 2005 at 10:05:26 GMT +0100 B If anyone else would like to try my rule set let me know and I'll email the B file over. Yes please Barry. -- Best regards,Tony.

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-21 Thread Gerard
ON Monday, February 21, 2005, 10:01:40 AM, you wrote: B If anyone else would like to try my rule set let me know and I'll email the B file over. Hi Barry, I would love to try them. How much do the slow down bayesIt? -- Best regards, Gerard

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-21 Thread Barry
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:47:44 +0100, Gerard wrote: ON Monday, February 21, 2005, 10:01:40 AM, you wrote: B If anyone else would like to try my rule set let me know and I'll email the B file over. Hi Barry, I would love to try them. How much do the slow down bayesIt? Can you confirm

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-21 Thread Ron Cameron
Hello Barry! On Monday, February 21, 2005, 3:01 AM, you wrote: Barry Hi Barry I've now transcribed 83 different regex rules over to Bayesit. I extracted Barry them from my copy of MailWasher. Barry If anyone else would like to try my rule set let me know and I'll email the Barry file over

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-21 Thread Barry
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 05:04:35 -0600, Ron Cameron wrote: Hello Barry! Send it to my email address below please. You'll have to drop me a line Ron, Gmane hides your identity very well! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-21 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Barry, A reminder of what Barry on TBUDL typed on: 21 February 2005 at 12:30:15 GMT +0100 B You'll have to drop me a line Ron, Gmane hides your identity very well! Why not post it to this list, that way everyone who uses Bayesit can try it and you won't have to send it a dozen times

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-21 Thread David Calvarese
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 09:01:40 +, Barry wrote: B Hi B Well I'm still persevering! B I've now transcribed 83 different regex rules over to Bayesit. I extracted B them from my copy of MailWasher. B This seems to have made a dramatic improvement in spam catching. I've now B reduced the spam

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-21 Thread Barry
Bayesit can try it and you won't have to send it a dozen times. I thought attachments were not allowed. Marck's slapped my wrist before! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-21 Thread Dick H
Hello Barry, On Monday, February 21, 2005 at 09:01:40 GMT + (which was 10:01:40 where I live), Barry wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of More observation on Bayesit!: Hi Well I'm still persevering! I've now transcribed 83 different regex rules over to Bayesit. I

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-21 Thread Roman Katzer
Hello Barry, I've now transcribed 83 different regex rules over to Bayesit. I extracted them from my copy of MailWasher. This seems to have made a dramatic improvement in spam catching. I've now reduced the spam failures from 100% (really!) to below 54% in two days. this seems to be a great

Re: More observation on Bayesit!

2005-02-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Barry, @21-Feb-2005, 17:01 Barry [B] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why not post it to this list, that way everyone who uses Bayesit can try it and you won't have to send it a dozen times. B I thought attachments were not allowed. Marck's slapped my wrist before! Attachments

Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

2005-02-18 Thread Barry
at the Bayesit log file and I noticed that after every use of TheBat! I was getting: 17.02.2005 15:03:46 Current recalculation session is interrupted. When I use TheBat! to check my email I'll start the program to download the mail and if there is nothing of interest I'll junk the Spam and close

Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

2005-02-17 Thread Barry
Hi Well, this is my 3rd and last attempt to get BayesIt to work. I guess I've wasted enough time with it now. I removed all traces of BayesIt from my install 'cos it just wasn't working, despite it having over 1,000 spam mails to train on which I had downloaded from TheBatWorld web site. I

Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

2005-02-17 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Barry, On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:58:46 +GMT (17-2-2005, 13:58 +0100, where I live), you wrote: B Having a clean install I now find that BayesIt is complaining that the B dictionaries are either corrupt or not there. B Well its right on that one; they aren't there! B But surely on a new

Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

2005-02-17 Thread Barry
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:16:58 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: Did you tell BayesIt where it should store its stuff? Options - Preferences - Anti-spam - BayesIt - Configure - Options Hi Roelof Yes I did, and that's what I'm finding so frustrating. I think I am doing everything as I should

Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

2005-02-17 Thread David Calvarese
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 at 14:24:45 +, Barry wrote: B I don't like being beaten so I decided to try again with a clean install B but now I don't appear to have any dictionaries. B Mail Washer Pro is beginning to look very attractive! :-) I'm not so impressed with BayesIt right now either

Re[2]: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

2005-02-17 Thread Dick H
Hello Barry, On Thursday, February 17, 2005 at 14:24:45 GMT + (which was 15:24:45 where I live), Barry wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:16:58 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: Did you tell BayesIt where

Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

2005-02-17 Thread Anselm Buehling
I'm not so impressed with BayesIt right now either. Doesn't seem to do a thing. Same here - I've been training it for months now with hundreds and thousands lots of good emails and spam emails, but to no avail. Kind regards, Anselm -- Anselm Buehling - Translations EN/RU DE [EMAIL

Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

2005-02-17 Thread Barry
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:24:45 +, Barry wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:16:58 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: Did you tell BayesIt where it should store its stuff? Options - Preferences - Anti-spam - BayesIt - Configure - Options Hi Roelof Yes I did, and that's what I'm finding so

Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

2005-02-17 Thread Barry
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:24:45 +, Barry wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:16:58 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: Did you tell BayesIt where it should store its stuff? Options - Preferences - Anti-spam - BayesIt - Configure - Options Hi Roelof Yes I did, and that's what I'm finding so

Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

2005-02-17 Thread Tony Boom
Hello David, A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBUDL typed on: 17 February 2005 at 15:32:23 GMT +0100 DC I'm not so impressed with BayesIt right now either. Doesn't seem to DC do a thing. I'm trying out Bayes Filter ATM though. It used to work here but for some reason it doesn't work

Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

2005-02-17 Thread David Calvarese
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 at 17:40:56 +, Tony Boom wrote: TB A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBUDL typed on: TB 17 February 2005 at 15:32:23 GMT +0100 DC I'm not so impressed with BayesIt right now either. Doesn't seem to DC do a thing. I'm trying out Bayes Filter ATM though. TB

Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

2005-02-17 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Barry, On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:36:26 +GMT (17-2-2005, 18:36 +0100, where I live), you wrote: B There's definitely a problem with 0.8.0 B I reinstalled 0.7.3, and after training both spam and nonspam dictionaries B were created. B 0.8.0 does *not* do this! You're experiencing other

Help with Bayesit

2005-02-07 Thread BJH
Hi I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I must be doing something wrong! Bayesit is now reporting 100% Spam Errors This is right 'cos I'm having to mark all incoming spam. Nothing is being 'junked'. Spam Frequency Dict: 77 letters 7851 words Non-spam dict: 1060 letters 32965 words Spam

Re: Trying to understand Bayesit

2005-02-06 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
the words in the message text get a score. BayesIt collects these words with an individual ranking in a database (something like a statement: the word 'telephone' appeared in ham emails 15 times). Over time it becomes clearer and clearer which words appear in spam email and which in ham email

Trying to understand Bayesit

2005-02-04 Thread BJH
Hi all I've been trying out Bayesit now found a few days and I'm struggling to come to terms with how this plug-in is *supposed* to work. It seems to me that in simple terms the plugin assigns a 'score' to each email, and dependent on the score allocated TB determines what ultimately happens

Re: Trying to understand Bayesit

2005-02-04 Thread BJH
better results. Thanks Marck, I'll continue to persevere. :-) -- Best regards Barry Using TB version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

BayesIt Tutorial in English

2004-12-29 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello TB List, as there have been several requests for an English tutorial for the BayesIt-Plugin and because there is only a Russian one available, we published since some minutes an English one. It explains the basic functions of the plugin with screenshots and has also a FAQ inside

Re: Bayesit Plugin

2004-11-20 Thread Gerard
ON Friday, November 19, 2004, 11:46:17 PM, you wrote: NL But I now have a spambase of over 4000 NL messages to work off of. Hi Neal, I only have 450 to work with sofar, but I would not like to trade with you :-) I agree that BasesIt filter does a good job. My settings are similar to yours. --

Re[2]: Bayesit Plugin

2004-11-20 Thread John Morse
Back when Bayesit was a addin filter that didn't come with the_bat I had it working fine, I trained it with thousands of spam messages. But I lost all that when I reformated recently. and I installed the latest greatest BAT and I noticed it came with Bayesit, I choose to let it install it and I've

Re[3]: Bayesit Plugin

2004-11-20 Thread Mike Rourke
. Like someone pointed out, BayesIt is hit or miss...it either works for you or it doesn't. I couldn't get it to work well for a long time. But on one install it just magically worked. I receive about 1200 e-mails daily, 30% SPAM. I have maintained an overall accuracy rate of 99.87% for 2 months now

Bayesit Plugin

2004-11-19 Thread John Morse
Hello Chris, Why does the Bayesit plugin not work very well? It will pick up an occasional spam but misses most. It will still fall for the same messages even after I mark them as spam. -- ~John {Race Car spelled backwards is Race Car!} The_Bat! Version 3.0.2.2 Rush http

Re: Bayesit Plugin

2004-11-19 Thread Sean Rima
Hello John, Friday, November 19, 2004, 9:02:30 PM, you wrote: Hello Chris, Why does the Bayesit plugin not work very well? It will pick up an occasional spam but misses most. It will still fall for the same messages even after I mark them as spam. I have started to notice

Re: Bayesit Plugin

2004-11-19 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello John, Friday, November 19, 2004, 4:02:30 PM, you wrote: JM Why does the Bayesit plugin not work very well? JM It will pick up an occasional spam but misses most. JM It will still fall for the same messages even after I mark them as JM spam. JM Spammers have gotten hip to how

Re: Bayesit Plugin

2004-11-19 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi John and Group, Why does the Bayesit plugin not work very well? It will pick up an occasional spam but misses most. It will still fall for the same messages even after I mark them as spam. I have have really good luck with Bayesit no that it and TBv3 are stable. My Out of 100

Re[2]: Bayesit Plugin

2004-11-19 Thread Code 2
JM Why does the Bayesit plugin not work very well? It will pick up JM an occasional spam but misses most. It will still fall for the JM same messages even after I mark them as spam. M3 Spammers have gotten hip to how Bayesian filtering works and have M3 devised ways to get around

Bayesit

2004-11-03 Thread Dave Thomas
How do you install this Bayesit filter? -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com

Re: Bayesit

2004-11-03 Thread Mic Cullen
At 12:24 [GMT+0200] on Wednesday November 3 (actual time - 6:24pm on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Dave How do you install this Bayesit filter? I did it by downloading and installing Spampal :-) After a fair bit of testing, I find it's better than any

Re: Bayesit

2004-11-03 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Dave, Wednesday, November 3, 2004, 5:24:51 AM, you wrote: DT How do you install this Bayesit filter? First unarchive the TBP file someplace in either the TB executable tree or the data tree. I put mine in Prg_files/TheBat/Bayesit Go to Options / PLugins. Click add and then point

Re[2]: Bayesit

2004-11-03 Thread Dave Thomas
Thanks Mike == MikeD Hello Dave, MikeD Wednesday, November 3, 2004, 5:24:51 AM, you wrote: DT How do you install this Bayesit filter? MikeD First unarchive the TBP file someplace in either the TB executable MikeD tree or the data tree. I put mine in Prg_files/TheBat/Bayesit MikeD

Re[3]: Bayesit

2004-11-03 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Dave, Wednesday, November 3, 2004, 9:42:05 AM, you wrote: DT Thanks Mike Always happy to be able to give back in some small way for all the help I have gotten g -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.1 on Windows ME 4.90 Build

BayesIt! Configuration with Russian and English E-Mail

2004-11-03 Thread David M. Dickerson
Hello, everyone! I have just read Alexey Vinogradov's Web page on The Bat!'s BayesIt! anti-spam plug-in, at the following URL: http://klirik.narod.ru/usefuls/bayesiteng.htm (The Russian version is at the following URL.) http://klirik.narod.ru/usefuls/bayesit.htm ASIDE: For those of you who have

Bayesit

2004-11-02 Thread Dave Thomas
Where do I find the link to the latest version -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: Bayesit

2004-11-02 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Dave, Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 6:31:10 AM, you wrote: DT Where do I find the link to the latest version Sorry, I no longer have that link handy and I cannot read the site well enough to find the link sigh Hopefully someone else will be able to post a copy of the link for you. -- Best

Re[2]: Bayesit

2004-11-02 Thread Dave Thomas
Thanks Mike, yes hopefully someone will == MikeD Hello Dave, MikeD Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 6:31:10 AM, you wrote: DT Where do I find the link to the latest version MikeD Sorry, I no longer have that link handy and I cannot read the site MikeD well enough to find the link sigh

Re: Bayesit

2004-11-02 Thread Dan Grunberg
Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:31:10 +0200 (6:31 AM EST here) Dave Thomas wrote: Where do I find the link to the latest [Bayesit] version You might want to try www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/bayesit/bayesit.lng . Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80

Mod: Top posting (was: Bayesit)

2004-11-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Dave, On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 15:42:33 +0200GMT (2-11-2004, 14:42 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DT Thanks Mike, yes hopefully someone will DT == MikeD Hello Dave, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied

Re[2]: Bayesit

2004-11-02 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Dan, Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 8:46:34 AM, you wrote: DG Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:31:10 +0200 (6:31 AM EST here) Dave Thomas wrote: Where do I find the link to the latest [Bayesit] version DG You might want to try DG www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/bayesit/bayesit.lng . I believe

Re[3]: Bayesit

2004-11-02 Thread Dick H
Hello MikeD, On Tuesday, November 02, 2004 at 10:56:50 GMT -0500 (which was 16:56:50 where I live), MikeD (3) wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of Bayesit: Hello Dan, Tuesday, November 2, 2004, 8:46:34 AM, you wrote: DG Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:31:10 +0200 (6:31 AM EST here

Re[3]: BayesIt

2004-11-01 Thread G. Minnerup
On Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 2:10:40 AM, MikeD wrote: and I should also mention that the newest version is 0.7.3 and since you are going to have to go through all that anyway, you might want to get this version before you go through all that. It is much improved over the version that was

BayesIt

2004-10-19 Thread G. Minnerup
I'm sure this is a FAQ but I haven't been paying attention... Just upgraded to TB 3.01, no problems, but BayesIt has stopped spotting ANY spam - not that it ever was any good at it (about 1 in 3 with 2.x). Do I have to retrain the new version? -- Regards, G. mailto

Re: BayesIt

2004-10-19 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello G., Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 9:24:45 AM, you wrote: GM I'm sure this is a FAQ but I haven't been paying attention... GM Just upgraded to TB 3.01, no problems, but BayesIt has GM stopped spotting ANY spam - not that it ever was any good at it GM (about 1 in 3 with 2.x). Do I have

Re[2]: BayesIt

2004-10-19 Thread MikeD
Hello MikeD, Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 10:08:07 AM, you wrote: M3 Hello G., M3 Tuesday, October 19, 2004, 9:24:45 AM, you wrote: GM I'm sure this is a FAQ but I haven't been paying attention... GM Just upgraded to TB 3.01, no problems, but BayesIt has GM stopped spotting ANY spam

Re: BayesIT! and filters

2004-10-16 Thread MikeD (3)
processed by BayesIT! and not deleted from the server. MLW I am using a series of OR statements in the filter, and it looks like MLW the ones that get through have more than one of my special words. MLW So, how can I make a filter that will delete from the serve any email MLW that has one or more

Re[2]: BayesIT! and filters

2004-10-16 Thread Stuart Cuddy
anything with certain words in the subject. Many of MLW these still get processed by BayesIT! and not deleted from the server. MLW I am using a series of OR statements in the filter, and it looks like MLW the ones that get through have more than one of my special words. MLW So, how can I make a filter

BayesIt scoring

2004-10-16 Thread Roman Katzer
Is there a way to see what score BayesIt gave a message? Just upgraded to 3.0.1.33 and use BayesIt for the forst time (dodn#t work before). Roman -- What is Snow White's favorite drink? Seven up. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL

Re: BayesIt scoring

2004-10-16 Thread Paul White
On Saturday, 16 October 2004 at 18:56 (UK time), Roman Katzer said: Is there a way to see what score BayesIt gave a message? Just upgraded to 3.0.1.33 and use BayesIt for the forst time (dodn#t work before). Check the 'Filter' lines of the Account Log. Not the best way but as far as I know

Re[3]: BayesIT! and filters

2004-10-16 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Stuart, Saturday, October 16, 2004, 9:06:23 AM, you wrote: SC Michael is using Version 3 which does not have the alternative tab. I guess I will have to bite the bullet soon and move up to 3 g -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat!

Re: BayesIt scoring

2004-10-16 Thread Roman Katzer
On Saturday, October 16, 2004, 14:36:57, Paul White wrote: Check the 'Filter' lines of the Account Log. Not the best way but as far as I know, the only way. Thanks, I'll try that and promise to proof-read my messages in the future :) Roman -- Foreign Aid - taxing poor people in rich

BayesIT! and filters

2004-10-15 Thread Michael L. Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I get some pretty rude email spam. I have setup a filter to delete from the server anything with certain words in the subject. Many of these still get processed by BayesIT! and not deleted from the server. I am using a series of OR statements

Anyone combine BayesIT! and Bayes Filter for spam?

2004-10-12 Thread Michael L. Wilson
successfully combined BayesIT and Bayes Anti spam to work together? -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Critic Teacher :einsteinyoyo: == Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2) Ponder this: The same fire

Re[2]: Bayesit Filter - How do you configure it?

2004-10-11 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Greg, Sunday, October 10, 2004, 8:21:19 PM, you wrote: GS Hello MikeD, GS Thursday, October 7, 2004, 10:11:36 AM, MikeD (3) wrote: Click Add and then point it at the 'bayesit' folder and select the 'bayesit.tbp' GS Done. That will get things started. Next you have to start showing

Re: Bayesit Filter - How do you configure it?

2004-10-10 Thread Greg Strong
Hello MikeD, Thursday, October 7, 2004, 10:11:36 AM, MikeD (3) wrote: Click Add and then point it at the 'bayesit' folder and select the 'bayesit.tbp' Done. That will get things started. Next you have to start showing it what is good email (i.e. 'ham') and what is spam (that is train

Re: Bayesit Filter - How do you configure it?

2004-10-10 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Greg, Sunday, October 10, 2004, 8:21:19 PM, Greg Strong wrote: If you have saves a lot of spam and ham samples, you can train it on those saved letters. That will speed up the training process. How do you do this? ,- [ per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBBETA ] | Just select the 500

Bayesit Filter - How do you configure it?

2004-10-07 Thread Dave Thomas
Hi there, how do I configure the filter in version 3? -- Kind Regards Dave Thomas Product Manager Psionet Tel +27 21 683 1192 Fax +27 21 683 1196 Web: www.psion.co.za Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: Bayesit Filter - How do you configure it?

2004-10-07 Thread Gerard
ON Thursday, October 7, 2004, 3:53:29 PM, you wrote: DT Hi there, how do I configure the filter in version 3? Hi Dave, Go to Options-preferencesanti spam and select Bayes Filter. Now press the config button and you will find all the options. PS: Your cut mark is not working it is missing a

Re: Bayesit Filter - How do you configure it?

2004-10-07 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Dave, Thursday, October 7, 2004, 8:53:29 AM, you wrote: DT Hi there, how do I configure the filter in version 3? You have to unarchive it and it's support files. I keep mine in a folder called (big surprise) 'bayesit' that is in the 'TheBat' program tree. Next you start TB and go

Re: Fed up with BayesIt

2004-09-29 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Code, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 11:51:47 PM, you wrote: Can you guys suggest a better alternative? http://popfile.sourceforge.net - its not a TB plugin, its a local proxy. But it rawks! :-) Using it for 3 months now, 98% accuracy... -- Best regards, Alexander

Re[2]: Fed up with BayesIt

2004-09-29 Thread admin
Hello Code, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 11:51:47 PM, you wrote: Can you guys suggest a better alternative? http://popfile.sourceforge.net - its not a TB plugin, its a local proxy. But it rawks! :-) Using it for 3 months now, 98% accuracy... But are you checking more than six email

Re[3]: Fed up with BayesIt

2004-09-29 Thread Mike
Hi admin, Hello Code, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 11:51:47 PM, you wrote: Can you guys suggest a better alternative? http://popfile.sourceforge.net - its not a TB plugin, its a local proxy. But it rawks! :-) Using it for 3 months now, 98% accuracy... aacu But are you checking more than

Re[2]: How do I know BayesIT is learning anything?

2004-09-29 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Neal, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:58:14 PM, you wrote: NL One way is to look at the statistics BayesIt generates. The would be NL found here: Options Preferences Plug-ins BayesIt Information NL Highlight the BayesIt plugin and click the info button and you will NL see a large

How do I know BayesIT is learning anything?

2004-09-28 Thread admin
I have a sneaking suspicion that although BayesIT is filtering, that it isn't actually learning from messages subsequently not filterd but then marked as junk. How could I determine whether it IS in fact learning from these? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using

Fed up with BayesIt

2004-09-28 Thread Code 2
I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of spam and non-spam messages. Despite this, it's catching only about 10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt just can't do the job or the spammers are outwitting it. Either way, I'm not prepared

Re: Fed up with BayesIt

2004-09-28 Thread Spam
I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of spam and non-spam messages. Despite this, it's catching only about 10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt just can't do the job or the spammers are outwitting it. Either way, I'm

Re: Fed up with BayesIt

2004-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
Hello Code, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:51:47 PM, you wrote: C2 I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of C2 spam and non-spam messages. Despite this, it's catching only about C2 10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt C2 just can't do

Re: How do I know BayesIT is learning anything?

2004-09-28 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Marten, I have a sneaking suspicion that although BayesIT is filtering, that it isn't actually learning from messages subsequently not filterd but then marked as junk. How could I determine whether it IS in fact learning from these? One way is to look at the statistics BayesIt generates

Re: Fed up with BayesIt

2004-09-28 Thread P.Johnson
Hello Code2, On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C2 I started training BayesIt 0.5.9 a few months ago with thousands of C2 spam and non-spam messages. Despite this, it's catching only about C2 10%. I continue to mark the missed stuff as junk, but either BayesIt C2

Re[2]: BayesIt web english web page

2004-09-26 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Steve, Saturday, September 25, 2004, 7:10:59 PM, you wrote: SMK Neal, SMK I'm, using 06.6, which I thought was the latest version. BayesIt hasn't SMK worked well for me since the version that came with The Bat 2.12; I don't SMK remember its version number. That would 0.5.11. It is what

Re[3]: BayesIt web english web page

2004-09-26 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello MikeD, Sunday, September 26, 2004, 8:08:39 PM, you wrote: SMK I'm, using 06.6, which I thought was the latest version. BayesIt hasn't SMK worked well for me since the version that came with The Bat 2.12; I don't SMK remember its version number. That would 0.5.11. It is what I continue

BayesIt web english web page

2004-09-25 Thread Steve Mary King
Does anybody know if there a comprehensive BayesIt web page in English, such as the Russian http://www.ritlabs.com/ru/solutions/BayesIt.php. If I switch the language selector on the Russian page to English, nothing happens. I tried http://www.ritlabs.com/en/solutions/BayesIt.php, but only get

Re: BayesIt web english web page

2004-09-25 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Steve Does anybody know if there a comprehensive BayesIt web page in English, such as the Russian http://www.ritlabs.com/ru/solutions/BayesIt.php. I'd like to know if there is one, too. I'm frustrated enough with BayesIt's inability to recognize junk mail, that I'm ready to switch back

Re: BayesIt web english web page

2004-09-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
.0.6.0, trained it and all was well; no white NL or black lists. I just stuck v0.6.8 into the mix and it seems OK. Well, I have had consistent crashes using BayesIt and still get a Exception trap in training_the_base error on occasion. Which ends up with BayesIt no longer operational and TB hanging

Re[2]: BayesIt web english web page

2004-09-25 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Marck, Well, I have had consistent crashes using BayesIt and still get a Exception trap in training_the_base error on occasion. Which ends up with BayesIt no longer operational and TB hanging on exit. These crashes are far less frequent with the 0.6.8 release, for sure and previous

Re: BayesIt web english web page

2004-09-25 Thread Steve Mary King
Neal, I'm, using 06.6, which I thought was the latest version. BayesIt hasn't worked well for me since the version that came with The Bat 2.12; I don't remember its version number. Do you have the URL for 0.6.8? The web site for BayesIt http://klirik.narod.ru/usefuls/bayesiteng.htm lists 0.4

Re[2]: BayesIt web english web page

2004-09-25 Thread P.Johnson
:-(. And there is no way you the whitelist can be controlled? MDP So I have switched back to BayesIt, seeing the positive feedback on MDP this new release. I've heard of nothing but problems with BayseIt, much as I would like it to work. MDP I find that BayesIt is not trapping any spam at all on my

Re: BayesIt web english web page

2004-09-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
, but was that the point? I'd have thought that I'd want the source of non-junk mail to be white-listed. But why should all mail addressed to me suddenly act like it's white-listed? MDP So I have switched back to BayesIt, seeing the positive feedback MDP on this new release. PJ I've heard of nothing

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