Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Anne, On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 03:46:57 + GMT (27/10/02, 10:46 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: Yahoo lists also suffer some mail loss and some users don't receive the messages even when they are set to do so, This is a problem I haven't encountered, but I've heard of it. and finally the Yahoo

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-27 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anne! On Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 4:23:48 AM you wrote: I think a certain amount of discussion is needed before something is tried, Try living happily in Germany ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Zoo.Write4U.de PGP keys available:

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-27 Thread Anne
Sunday, October 27, 2002, 6:42:15 AM, Thomas wrote in message mid:351488417.20021027134215;gmx.net TF Well, they offer a free service to subscribers, it needs to be paid TF for somehow. The alternative would be to charge for membership - I TF prefer the ads. ;-) Yep I understand that Thomas,

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-27 Thread Anne
Sunday, October 27, 2002, 8:33:25 AM, Dierk wrote in message mid:1983250806.20021027093325;gmx.net DH Try living happily in Germany ... I'll stick in England thanks Dierk ;-) -- Cheers, Anne Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-27 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anne! On Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 7:31:06 PM you wrote: I'll stick in England thanks Dierk ;-) I more than understand that ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Zoo.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:Dierk.Haasis;Write4U.de?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.62/Beta6

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Anne
Friday, October 25, 2002, 9:16:44 AM, Dierk wrote in message mid:785122254.20021025101644;gmx.net DH Much more important than having various fori (Latin plural and DH 2nd case) in different places. Personally Dierk I think it's important to give users a choice of where they go for help - some

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Anne
Friday, October 25, 2002, 9:19:13 AM, Dierk wrote in message mid:1035271501.20021025101913;gmx.net DH Right, instead. So, you have to be on both fora Not everyone would have to be Dierk, those who want to be on both can be, those who don't want to be will do their own thing anyhow. It's a matter

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anne! On Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 11:39:11 AM you wrote: I still feel that there needs to be someting more basic which answeres the questions of total beginners, and Marck's new Beginners Zone and a forum will help address that need. The FAQ. Let's get that straight, it was asked

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anne! On Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 11:46:49 AM you wrote: It'd be nice to see users told that TBUDL exists via the forum and when forum users feel they are ready to join it then I'm sure they will if they are interested enough in exploring TB to a greater depth. Well, I don't think

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Barry2
Hello Scott, Friday, October 25, 2002, 1:15:06 PM, you wrote: SM I haven't noticed anyone mentioning it, but there's no reason that a SM message board cannot also be a mailing list. Yahoo and Topica are good SM examples of these; you can read mail online or you can get it via SM email or both.

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Barry2
Hello Allie, Friday, October 25, 2002, 4:38:47 PM, you wrote: snip ACM The same goes for other features. I'll be waiting for v2 before I ACM personally put together any more tutorials or support pages for any ACM of TB!'s major features. AIUI - the licence key with V1.x will not be valid for

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Anne
Saturday, October 26, 2002, 10:59:54 AM, Dierk wrote in message mid:659771461.20021026115954;gmx.net DH 6. Message boards are only useful if they either aren't frequented DH very often or you be there always. For a pay-per-minute user the DH last option is not viable. I rather think

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Anne
Friday, October 25, 2002, 1:15:06 PM, Scott wrote in message mid:37382597093.20021025071506;local.nu SM Yahoo and Topica are good SM examples of these; you can read mail online or you can get it via SM email or both. This would probably work quite well for everyone, if SM you don't mind the ads.

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Anne
Friday, October 25, 2002, 1:59:03 PM, Don wrote in message mid:80166323330.20021025085903;donzeigler.com DZ I will have links to the test boards posted to the list sometime Sunday, DZ 10/27. Great news, Don, we shall look forward to seeing and trying them out. And thank you for undertaking this

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anne, 26-Oct-2002, 11:21 Anne [A] in mid:19452994068.20021026112131;gmx.co.uk said: DH 6. Message boards are only useful if they either aren't DH frequented very often or you be there always. For a DH pay-per-minute user the last option is

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Anne
Saturday, October 26, 2002, 11:51:08 AM, Marck wrote in message mid:1226490963.20021026115108;silverstones.com MDP The German market for TB is the biggest in the world. Dieter's work MDP in marketing TB there has given rise to a use base that I would MDP guess is at least twice as large as the

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Anne
Saturday, October 26, 2002, 11:51:08 AM, Marck wrote in message mid:1226490963.20021026115108;silverstones.com MDP I don't think there's a big deal here. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding here Marck - it just comes across that some don't want the board to exist per se rather than just not want to

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anne, 26-Oct-2002, 12:05 Anne [A] in mid:19055608684.20021026120505;gmx.co.uk said: MDP The German market for TB is the biggest in the world. Dieter's MDP work in marketing TB there has given rise to a use base that I MDP would guess is at least

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anne, 26-Oct-2002, 12:08 Anne [A] in mid:7755829593.20021026120846;gmx.co.uk said: MDP I don't think there's a big deal here. A Sorry if I'm misunderstanding here Marck - it just comes across A that some don't want the board to exist per se

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anne! On Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 1:08:46 PM you wrote: Sorry if I'm misunderstanding here Marck - it just comes across that some don't want the board to exist per se Seems today I am very easily misunderstood. Let me add (again, methinks), I am *not* against a message board; I

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:17151819464.20021026105915;freeuk.com, Barry2 [B] wrote:' B AIUI - the licence key with V1.x will not be valid for V2.x ??? AFAIK, no. There will be an upgrade charge. B In that case there will be users who will stay with their version B

Re[3]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Mary Bull
Hi, Anne, Anne wrote to Dierk: DH snip A snip A ...I asked if A there was a beginners' list and was told this was it. I still feel that A there needs to be someting more basic which answers the questions of A total beginners, and Marck's new Beginners Zone and a forum will help A address that

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Anne, On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:25:34 +0100 GMT (26/10/02, 17:25 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: SM Yahoo and Topica are good examples of these; you can read mail SM online or you can get it via email or both. This would probably SM work quite well for everyone, if you don't mind the ads. Oh no

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Barry2
Hello Dierk, Saturday, October 26, 2002, 12:57:58 PM, you wrote: DH I am all for thinking before doing something, but certain things have DH to be done to know what comes of it. It is the difference between DH logical and empirical facts. Well is looks like Don Zeigler has taken the plunge and

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Dieter Hummel
Good afternoon List Members, On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 at 13:05:30 [GMT +0200] Anne wrote: Out of interest, was the board instrumental in that marketing or did it come as a result of the demand from the larger user base Marck? As Marck already pointed out: it's the latter, of course. I got a lot

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Anne, On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 at 11:34:58 [GMT +0100], you wrote: DZ I will have links to the test boards posted to the list sometime DZ Sunday, 10/27. A Great news, Don, we shall look forward to seeing and trying them A out. And thank you for undertaking this :-) Moderator Well, as Marck

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Dieter Hummel
Good afternoon List Members, On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 at 13:58:10 [GMT +0200] Dierk Haasis wrote: I am all for thinking before doing something, [...] This honors you... Fact is that 80% of s/w users don't like this, don't like reading/searching before asking. A phonecall or a message means

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/26/2002, Dieter Hummel wrote: Don: So why not ask Ritlabs for permission to run a message board in English language, to use icons and logos? Just to be on the safe side. Done. :-) -- Regards, Don Zeigler * bringing you boring sigfiles for over 14 years * ...Anyone who makes an

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Dieter Hummel
Good afternoon List Members, On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 at 12:00:07 [GMT +0200] Dierk Haasis wrote: 1. I don't think message boards are the place an absolute beginner will go to. That's wrong as evidence shows (may be true on boards just starting, with low number of members) 2.

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Scott McNay
Hi Anne! In message mid:13853237258.20021026112534;gmx.co.uk on Saturday, October 26, 2002, 5:25:34 AM, you wrote: SM Yahoo and Topica are good SM examples of these; you can read mail online or you can get it via SM email or both. This would probably work quite well for everyone, if SM you

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Anne
Saturday, October 26, 2002, 11:57:58 AM, Dierk wrote in message mid:1416858070.20021026135758;gmx.net DH Seems today I am very easily misunderstood. Let me add (again, DH methinks), I am *not* against a message board; I won't frequent it. No worried Dierk - think I was still half-asleep when I

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Anne
Saturday, October 26, 2002, 3:25:37 PM, Dieter wrote in message mid:16617679171.20021026172537;is-web.com DH As Marck already pointed out: it's the latter, of course. I got a lot of DH user requests for an online forum - and thus, I created one... DH If people want to share experience or simply

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Anne
Saturday, October 26, 2002, 5:07:48 PM, Scott wrote in message mid:58486566671.20021026120748;local.nu SM Why do you think they're awful? Hi Scott, The service on the Topica list was flaky and messages were often lost/didn't reach all list subscribers, Yahoo lists also suffer some mail loss and

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Barry2! On Friday, October 25, 2002 at 4:47:03 AM you wrote: That would only happen if TBUDL and any message list covered the same ground. What is talked about here is an 'absolute beginners' forum where new users can get basic help on setting up and using TB! If a lot of people,

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anne! On Friday, October 25, 2002 at 5:05:22 AM you wrote: [...] instead. Right, instead. So, you have to be on both fora (sorry for the mistake in the other message -i is 2nd case, -a is plural in Latin; forum is neutral) - ML and MB. The MB needs seasoned users for the answers, just

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Marck, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:22:58 +0100 your time, you authored this: MDP I don't know if this has been made clear but the neither the TB list MDP moderators nor the TB list hosters have expressed any interest in MDP creating, hosting or

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Scott McNay
Hi Marck and others! In message mid:488327688.20021025102258;silverstones.com on Friday, October 25, 2002, 4:22:58 AM, you wrote: MDP I haven't said this myself yet, but Allie has said it - I won't be MDP participating in a message board. Every time I have been forced to MDP use one, I have

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Simon, 25-Oct-2002, 12:53 Simon said: MDP I don't know if this has been made clear but the neither the MDP TB list moderators nor the TB list hosters have expressed any MDP interest in creating, hosting or moderating such a board. Accept in

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Scott, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:15:06 -0500 your time, you authored this: SM I don't think that anyone who has been online for any length of time SM will care much for them - From my own experience, I personally believe that this is not

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/25/2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: So. Who's on first base? Me, I guess. I will be trying out a few more scripts this weekend... and will then narrow my choices down to two or three. Next, I will set up a test board for each and invite participants of this list who have expressed support

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Dieter Hummel
Good afternoon List Members, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 01:37:55 [GMT +0200] Jan Rifkinson wrote: DZ Per an earlier thread I would like to DZ propose a message board for the purposes DZ of promoting and discussing the Bat. [...] I'm sorry. I don't get it. What's the advantage to that over

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread mm Meister
Hello Marck, Friday, October 25, 2002, 5:22:58 AM, you wrote: MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MDP Hash: SHA1 MDP Hi Angel, MDP 24-Oct-2002, 21:45 -0700 (05:45 UK time) Angel [A] in MDP mid:6093719401.20021024214513;email.com said: ACM This is why the board would need dedicated

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello mm, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:54:37 -0400 GMT (25/10/02, 20:54 +0700 GMT), mm Meister wrote: In order to solve this problem for the new users, clearly they're intimidated by the industrial look of TB! - why not design a good, follow-the-steps set of tutorials that can help a new person

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:16211654890.20021025212051;gmx.net, Thomas Fernandez [TF] wrote:' TF To publish the tutorials on the web means constant updating, as TF TB's development is quite fast (or maybe it just feels that way TF to beta testers?), and I cannot promise

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Dieter Hummel
Good afternoon List Members, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 at 17:10:08 [GMT +0200] Thomas Fernandez wrote: Actually I thought about it. When you look at Eudora, you can go to any good bookshop and buy a big book called Using Eudora. But for The Bat, the book would be out of date by the time it is

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread mm Meister
Hello Thomas, Friday, October 25, 2002, 10:20:51 AM, you wrote: TF Hello mm, TF On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:54:37 -0400 GMT (25/10/02, 20:54 +0700 GMT), TF mm Meister wrote: In order to solve this problem for the new users, clearly they're intimidated by the industrial look of TB! - why not

Tutorial (was: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board)

2002-10-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dieter, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:39:54 +0200 GMT (25/10/02, 22:39 +0700 GMT), Dieter Hummel wrote: We _will_ publish a book in German(y). We'll use the BOD scheme to take account of possible changes. Guess that we will refer to v2 also. Good news from you again. :-) Please keep me

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello mm, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:14:48 -0400 GMT (25/10/02, 23:14 +0700 GMT), mm Meister wrote: (unless TheBat! someday includes automatic template creation) :0 I wouldn't rule this out... The *only* Bat in the world that uses *artificial* intelligence. ;-) I so enjoy your tag lines, Thomas.

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Angel
Hi Ricardo, On Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 1:08:59 PM , Ricardo scibbled: A And one *I* just thought of: The time zones. RMR what do you mean by that? What I MEAN is, that if there is a message board in place that there needs to be (or SHOULD be) moderators from different time zones. If

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Angel, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:58:48 -0700 GMT (23/10/02, 23:58 +0700 GMT), Angel wrote: Folder= Non-English Discussion That's a bit broad, wouldn't you think? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. It takes money to make money because you have to copy

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Angel
Hi, Folder= Non-English Discussion TF That's a bit broad, wouldn't you think? Uh, it was an *example* broadly-named to represent the underlying possibilities (ie: meant to 'spawn ideas'), NOT meant to be an actual folder ;) I am sure the actual subjects/folders will obviously be made/named

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
RMR what do you mean by that? A What I MEAN is, that if there is a message board in place that there needs A to be (or SHOULD be) moderators from different time zones. of course, I guess I wasn't paying attention when reading your message :) A If someone is having technical difficulties with TB!

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Wilson
Thursday, 10/24/2002, 5:23 PM Hi Barry2, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, at 06:09:51 [GMT +0100] (which was 10:09 PM where I live) you wrote about: 'Proposal: The Bat! Message Board' TF TBUDL is supposed to be the beginners' list. B Maybe so, but there are beginners and beginners and I think

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Angel
Hi, RMR of course, I guess I wasn't paying attention when reading your message RMR :) Tis ok.. if I could pay attention, I would be poorer than poor lol RMR I think you're taking this too seriusly, maybe. If you think a good RMR web forum should give you a good answer before your bed time, I

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Anne
Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 4:56:50 PM, Dierk wrote in message mid:150589013.20021023175650;gmx.net DH BTW, this started with the reference to beginners. Do beginners - DH particularly the mentioned absolute beginners - really are served DH with a newsgroup or a message board? Speaking from my

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Anne
Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 3:47:45 AM, Thomas wrote in message mid:1161482846.20021023094745;gmx.net TF You are definitely infected by the TB fever. There is no known cure. TF ;-) Oh thank goodness for that! I'd hate to be sent back to OE or similar for treatment! g -- Cheers, Anne

Re[3]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Anne
Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 12:34:41 AM, Peter wrote in message mid:18540956241.20021022193441;ca.inter.net PK On the other hand, if someone wants the change why not Usenet forum? PK This can be read on-line or off-line as desired. Can download only PK messages interested in and ignore others.

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
A I'm not taking this too seriously, I'm *being* serious about it because A a message board involves just a ltle bit more than just setting up the A scripting and plopping it on the server and waiting for traffic. A I've run a web business since '95 and hosted many message boards; including A

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Barry2
Hello Paul, Friday, October 25, 2002, 1:29:02 AM, you wrote: PW I can see it coming. A question is asked on TBUDL, to get to a PW real answer to the question you have to dig through 15 That has PW been covered on the message board, responses. I really think a PW message would be more of a

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Angel
Hello again, RMR I don't know your site or your business, but I will guess that the RMR message boards where set up to provide a commercial service (again, RMR I'm just guessing). If that's true, then you or someone else had the RMR responsibility to provide a service, and to do it promptly.

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Anne
Friday, October 25, 2002, 1:29:02 AM, Paul wrote in message mid:2833326734.20021024172902;paulwilson.com PW I can see it coming. A question is asked on TBUDL, to get to a real PW answer to the question you have to dig through 15 That has been PW covered on the message board, responses. Paul, I

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Angel, On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:21:33 -0700 GMT (25/10/02, 05:21 +0700 GMT), Angel wrote: Uh, it was an *example* broadly-named to represent the underlying possibilities (ie: meant to 'spawn ideas'), NOT meant to be an actual folder ;) I see. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:9180370206.20021024180244;email.com, Angel [A] wrote:' A Since my experience on TBUDL and the other TB! lists, I have A learned one thing that separates TB! from all else and that is A there IS help out there and it IS *prompt*. Why not

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:17997101935.20021024225827;myrealbox.com, Ricardo M. Reyes [RMR] wrote:' RMR But a TB! message board would be a hobby project, driven by RMR voluntaries, and you can't expect certain level of service in RMR those boards. You just hope to get

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Joseph N.
On Thursday, October 24, 2002, Allie C Martin wrote in mid:9626993754.20021024223143;landscreek.net: If there's an atmosphere of prompt assistance and comraderie, then it will spread and infect the others who frequent the group. That's an interesting observation, Allie. This ML has a spirit

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Angel
ACM I agree here completely. The message boards success will hinge on ACM how helpful it is to those who go there. Prompt replies to requests ACM for help is definitely an important ingredient to encourage use of ACM the board. I agree that it's not something to take lightly. Yes... :) That was

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 7:06:58 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Peter, RO On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:45:31 -0400GMT (22-10-02, 23:45 +0200GMT, where RO I live), you wrote: PK I am a user only and are not that familiar with all the PK technicalities. PK Is message board same as a Usenet

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:34:41 -0400GMT (23-10-02, 1:34 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: PK On the other hand, if someone wants the change why not Usenet PK forum? This can be read on-line or off-line as desired. Can easily be spammed. Lots of e-mail harvesters. You need

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Peter, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 at 19:34:41 [GMT -0400], you wrote: PK Based on your explanation of the Message Board I agree with you PK 100%. The current system is much better, especially for people not PK connected all the time (broadband). I can read it off-line. This is really more a

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello List, if there is a need of a English spoken message board. I have on running since some weeks. It is a part of my TheBat Info page which is in the moment in German but will be translated to English soon. The Board is English. So let me now if there is really a need and i will configurated

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/22/2002, Peter Kerekes wrote: On the other hand, if someone wants the change why not Usenet forum? This can be read on-line or off-line as desired. Can download only messages interested in and ignore others. It's often difficult to start a new newsgroup. If you want to start one in the

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Gary! On Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 7:29:07 PM you wrote: I too agree in total with Thomas, and for additional reasons, one that being a webboard is not email, or will be used by email, which is the essence of TB! Also, by using and contributing to TBUDL, one can practice with the

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Jan! On Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 1:37:22 AM you wrote: I'm sorry. I don't get it. What's the advantage to that over this forum? Well, to people completely new to e-mailing a web site with posting capabilities (nothing more than a not-so-fancy database application) it would be

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Barry2
Hello Leif, Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 1:35:51 PM, you wrote: LG I can see value added in having a web board to support complete LG newbies, where they can get their feet wet. However, what I LG foresee in this, is that one, you're going to have to have a LG pretty dedicated staff of

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Peter! On Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 7:07:07 PM you wrote: Telling what? I'm more anonymous there? I don't think I'm really anonymous there [1] That was my point. Although I do use my real name and a valid e-mail address I always get into discussions about posting anonymously or

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Adam
Hello Don, Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 1:46:18 AM, you wrote: DZ The author of Pocomail (probably the best client besides the Bat) runs a DZ support forum for his program, and it sees dozens of posts daily. I thought it was a puzzle how Slaven could support people through that webboard. DZ

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Don, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 00:04:17[GMT -0400](which was 05:04 where I live) you wrote: DZ Still, although I would like to stick a Bat Board up, there's no point in DZ doing so if it just sits there with empty forums and no users. That's why I DZ posted the idea to the list; to get an

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Mark Wieder
Thomas- Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 6:26:04 AM, you wrote: TM if there is a need of a English spoken message board. I have on TM running since some weeks. It is a part of my TheBat Info page which TM is in the moment in German but will be translated to English soon. The TM Board is English. So

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread ETM
Hello Mark On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, you wrote It's also loaded with annoying pop-up and pop-under ads. I won't be going back there again. -Mark Wieder Which is why I said no to using a message board. It appears the viable learning center for newbies remains this mailing list.

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo ETM, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:23:44 -0400 your time, you authored this: E Which is why I said no to using a message board. It appears the E viable learning center for newbies remains this mailing list. That board may have ads, but others

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Mark, On Wednesday, 23. October 2002 at 16:15:37 [GMT -0700] you wrote: Thomas- Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 6:26:04 AM, you wrote: TM if there is a need of a English spoken message board. I have on TM running since some weeks. It is a part of my TheBat Info page which TM is in the

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Gary
Hi Dierk, On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 10:56 AM, you mentioned about Proposal: The Bat! Message Board: D BTW, this started with the reference to beginners. Do beginners - D particularly the mentioned absolute beginners - really are served D with a newsgroup or a message board? Good question

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
A And one *I* just thought of: The time zones. what do you mean by that? -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread ETM
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, you wrote 'Lo ETM, That board may have ads, but others don't. None of mine do, because I hate them mostly, and the people that use them do also. So maybe 'the viable learning center for newbies' seems to have switched back to a possible message

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/23/2002, Richard Wakeford wrote: But, from what I've been understanding you to be saying in your earlier posts, the forums are more to attract *new* TB! users via search engines and such than to take users off this mailing list where I, for one, would prefer to stay as I've never really

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Allie, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:20:54 -0500 GMT (23/10/02, 11:20 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: Here's an example of one that's well developed: Here is another one that works well and is also well-frequented: http://www.batworld.de/cgi-bin/batboard/ikonboard.cgi -- Cheers, Thomas.

Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Don Zeigler
Per an earlier thread I would like to propose a message board for the purposes of promoting and discussing the Bat. This board would be hosted on my web server and would run on either PHPBB or Invision... I'm currently evaluating both and haven't decided which one I like better. :-) So, feedback

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread jwayne
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 9:23:04 AM, Don Zeigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DZ Per an earlier thread I would like to propose a message board for the DZ purposes of promoting and discussing the Bat. DZ This board would be hosted on my web server and would run on either PHPBB or DZ Invision...

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Markus Gloede
Hi, Don Zeigler wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : So, feedback is needed: Good idea? Bad idea? Would you participate in a message board? Would you be interested in moderating a forum? How many forums would be required? I know that there is a German message board dedicated to the Bat.

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Britt Malka
Dear jwayne, Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 3:37:48 PM you wrote: j I'm sure that your efforts to set this up would be much appreciated, but seeing j as a message board is a much more professional way to support a product I'm j suprised that the impetus for doing so doesn't come directly from

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Don, On 22-10-2002 15:23, you [D] wrote in mid:5739275965.20021022092304;donzeigler.com: D So, feedback is needed: Good idea? Bad idea? I'll stick with the mailing lists, thank you. For convenience. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.62/Beta6

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Mary Bull
Hi, Don, You wrote: DZ... Per an earlier thread I would like to propose a message board for the purposes of promoting and discussing... I will link to the forum from my main page so Google will index the forum pages when it does its normal crawl. Great idea. DZ So, let me know what you think

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Don, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:23:04 -0400 your time, you authored this: DZ Per an earlier thread I would like to propose a message board for the DZ purposes of promoting and discussing the Bat. As I posted here

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:001301c279d2$0ed79e20$93e0e5cd;premiernet.net, Mary Bull [MB] wrote:' MB P.S. Any replies to this Post, please send to TBUDL List. I am MB temporarily back in Outlook Express and don't know how to set a MB From field for that in this Client.

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Joseph N.
Don, On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, Don Zeigler wrote in mid:5739275965.20021022092304;donzeigler.com: DZ Per an earlier thread I would like to propose a message board for the DZ purposes of promoting and discussing the Bat. DZ So, feedback is needed: Good idea? Bad idea? Would you participate

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Don, Going back 15:23 22.10.2002... This server currently hosts my personal site, which has been up two months and receives several hundred hits weekly. I will link to the forum from my main page so Google will index the forum pages when it does its normal crawl. Should you want, we

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, Don Zeigler wrote... Per an earlier thread I would like to propose a message board for the purposes of promoting and discussing the Bat. I'm not sure that it really is a good idea. I mean... that'd make people look in

Re[2]: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Barry2
Hello Jon, Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 2:37:48 PM, you wrote: j I'd much rather use a message board than a mailing list. Lots of my j time is spent deleting email messages that I'm not interested in. j Message boards are usually searchable, can be divided into topics, j etc etc. Horses for

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Paul Wilson
Tuesday, 10/22/2002, 8:28 AM Hi Don, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, at 09:23:04 [GMT -0400] (which was 6:23 AM where I live) you wrote about: 'Proposal: The Bat! Message Board' DZ So, feedback is needed: Good idea? Bad idea? Would you participate in a DZ message board? Would you be interested

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Simon! On Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 4:00:45 PM you wrote: As I posted here mid:8131258953.20021020223212;theycallmesimon.co.uk I think that The Bat! Support Forums would be of major advantage to existing users and prospective users alike Is there a reason everybody interested

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