Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Anne, On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 03:46:57 + GMT (27/10/02, 10:46 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: Yahoo lists also suffer some mail loss and some users don't receive the messages even when they are set to do so, This is a problem I haven't encountered, but I've heard of it. and finally the Yahoo

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-27 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anne! On Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 4:23:48 AM you wrote: I think a certain amount of discussion is needed before something is tried, Try living happily in Germany ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Zoo.Write4U.de PGP keys available:

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-27 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anne! On Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 7:31:06 PM you wrote: I'll stick in England thanks Dierk ;-) I more than understand that ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Zoo.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:Dierk.Haasis;Write4U.de?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.62/Beta6

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anne! On Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 11:39:11 AM you wrote: I still feel that there needs to be someting more basic which answeres the questions of total beginners, and Marck's new Beginners Zone and a forum will help address that need. The FAQ. Let's get that straight, it was asked

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anne! On Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 11:46:49 AM you wrote: It'd be nice to see users told that TBUDL exists via the forum and when forum users feel they are ready to join it then I'm sure they will if they are interested enough in exploring TB to a greater depth. Well, I don't think

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anne, 26-Oct-2002, 11:21 Anne [A] in mid:19452994068.20021026112131;gmx.co.uk said: DH 6. Message boards are only useful if they either aren't DH frequented very often or you be there always. For a DH pay-per-minute user the last option is

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anne, 26-Oct-2002, 12:05 Anne [A] in mid:19055608684.20021026120505;gmx.co.uk said: MDP The German market for TB is the biggest in the world. Dieter's MDP work in marketing TB there has given rise to a use base that I MDP would guess is at least

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anne, 26-Oct-2002, 12:08 Anne [A] in mid:7755829593.20021026120846;gmx.co.uk said: MDP I don't think there's a big deal here. A Sorry if I'm misunderstanding here Marck - it just comes across A that some don't want the board to exist per se

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anne! On Saturday, October 26, 2002 at 1:08:46 PM you wrote: Sorry if I'm misunderstanding here Marck - it just comes across that some don't want the board to exist per se Seems today I am very easily misunderstood. Let me add (again, methinks), I am *not* against a message board; I

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:17151819464.20021026105915;freeuk.com, Barry2 [B] wrote:' B AIUI - the licence key with V1.x will not be valid for V2.x ??? AFAIK, no. There will be an upgrade charge. B In that case there will be users who will stay with their version B

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Anne, On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:25:34 +0100 GMT (26/10/02, 17:25 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: SM Yahoo and Topica are good examples of these; you can read mail SM online or you can get it via email or both. This would probably SM work quite well for everyone, if you don't mind the ads. Oh no

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Dieter Hummel
Good afternoon List Members, On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 at 13:05:30 [GMT +0200] Anne wrote: Out of interest, was the board instrumental in that marketing or did it come as a result of the demand from the larger user base Marck? As Marck already pointed out: it's the latter, of course. I got a lot

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Anne, On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 at 11:34:58 [GMT +0100], you wrote: DZ I will have links to the test boards posted to the list sometime DZ Sunday, 10/27. A Great news, Don, we shall look forward to seeing and trying them A out. And thank you for undertaking this :-) Moderator Well, as Marck

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Dieter Hummel
Good afternoon List Members, On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 at 13:58:10 [GMT +0200] Dierk Haasis wrote: I am all for thinking before doing something, [...] This honors you... Fact is that 80% of s/w users don't like this, don't like reading/searching before asking. A phonecall or a message means

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/26/2002, Dieter Hummel wrote: Don: So why not ask Ritlabs for permission to run a message board in English language, to use icons and logos? Just to be on the safe side. Done. :-) -- Regards, Don Zeigler * bringing you boring sigfiles for over 14 years * ...Anyone who makes an

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Dieter Hummel
Good afternoon List Members, On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 at 12:00:07 [GMT +0200] Dierk Haasis wrote: 1. I don't think message boards are the place an absolute beginner will go to. That's wrong as evidence shows (may be true on boards just starting, with low number of members) 2.

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-26 Thread Scott McNay
Hi Anne! In message mid:13853237258.20021026112534;gmx.co.uk on Saturday, October 26, 2002, 5:25:34 AM, you wrote: SM Yahoo and Topica are good SM examples of these; you can read mail online or you can get it via SM email or both. This would probably work quite well for everyone, if SM you

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Barry2! On Friday, October 25, 2002 at 4:47:03 AM you wrote: That would only happen if TBUDL and any message list covered the same ground. What is talked about here is an 'absolute beginners' forum where new users can get basic help on setting up and using TB! If a lot of people,

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anne! On Friday, October 25, 2002 at 5:05:22 AM you wrote: [...] instead. Right, instead. So, you have to be on both fora (sorry for the mistake in the other message -i is 2nd case, -a is plural in Latin; forum is neutral) - ML and MB. The MB needs seasoned users for the answers, just

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Marck, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:22:58 +0100 your time, you authored this: MDP I don't know if this has been made clear but the neither the TB list MDP moderators nor the TB list hosters have expressed any interest in MDP creating, hosting or

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Scott McNay
Hi Marck and others! In message mid:488327688.20021025102258;silverstones.com on Friday, October 25, 2002, 4:22:58 AM, you wrote: MDP I haven't said this myself yet, but Allie has said it - I won't be MDP participating in a message board. Every time I have been forced to MDP use one, I have

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Simon, 25-Oct-2002, 12:53 Simon said: MDP I don't know if this has been made clear but the neither the MDP TB list moderators nor the TB list hosters have expressed any MDP interest in creating, hosting or moderating such a board. Accept in

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Scott, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:15:06 -0500 your time, you authored this: SM I don't think that anyone who has been online for any length of time SM will care much for them - From my own experience, I personally believe that this is not

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/25/2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: So. Who's on first base? Me, I guess. I will be trying out a few more scripts this weekend... and will then narrow my choices down to two or three. Next, I will set up a test board for each and invite participants of this list who have expressed support

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Dieter Hummel
Good afternoon List Members, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 01:37:55 [GMT +0200] Jan Rifkinson wrote: DZ Per an earlier thread I would like to DZ propose a message board for the purposes DZ of promoting and discussing the Bat. [...] I'm sorry. I don't get it. What's the advantage to that over

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello mm, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:54:37 -0400 GMT (25/10/02, 20:54 +0700 GMT), mm Meister wrote: In order to solve this problem for the new users, clearly they're intimidated by the industrial look of TB! - why not design a good, follow-the-steps set of tutorials that can help a new person

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:16211654890.20021025212051;gmx.net, Thomas Fernandez [TF] wrote:' TF To publish the tutorials on the web means constant updating, as TF TB's development is quite fast (or maybe it just feels that way TF to beta testers?), and I cannot promise

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Dieter Hummel
Good afternoon List Members, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 at 17:10:08 [GMT +0200] Thomas Fernandez wrote: Actually I thought about it. When you look at Eudora, you can go to any good bookshop and buy a big book called Using Eudora. But for The Bat, the book would be out of date by the time it is

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello mm, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:14:48 -0400 GMT (25/10/02, 23:14 +0700 GMT), mm Meister wrote: (unless TheBat! someday includes automatic template creation) :0 I wouldn't rule this out... The *only* Bat in the world that uses *artificial* intelligence. ;-) I so enjoy your tag lines, Thomas.

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Angel
Hi Ricardo, On Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 1:08:59 PM , Ricardo scibbled: A And one *I* just thought of: The time zones. RMR what do you mean by that? What I MEAN is, that if there is a message board in place that there needs to be (or SHOULD be) moderators from different time zones. If

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Angel, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:58:48 -0700 GMT (23/10/02, 23:58 +0700 GMT), Angel wrote: Folder= Non-English Discussion That's a bit broad, wouldn't you think? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. It takes money to make money because you have to copy

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Angel
Hi, Folder= Non-English Discussion TF That's a bit broad, wouldn't you think? Uh, it was an *example* broadly-named to represent the underlying possibilities (ie: meant to 'spawn ideas'), NOT meant to be an actual folder ;) I am sure the actual subjects/folders will obviously be made/named

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
RMR what do you mean by that? A What I MEAN is, that if there is a message board in place that there needs A to be (or SHOULD be) moderators from different time zones. of course, I guess I wasn't paying attention when reading your message :) A If someone is having technical difficulties with TB!

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Paul Wilson
Thursday, 10/24/2002, 5:23 PM Hi Barry2, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, at 06:09:51 [GMT +0100] (which was 10:09 PM where I live) you wrote about: 'Proposal: The Bat! Message Board' TF TBUDL is supposed to be the beginners' list. B Maybe so, but there are beginners and beginners and I think there

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Angel
Hi, RMR of course, I guess I wasn't paying attention when reading your message RMR :) Tis ok.. if I could pay attention, I would be poorer than poor lol RMR I think you're taking this too seriusly, maybe. If you think a good RMR web forum should give you a good answer before your bed time, I

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
A I'm not taking this too seriously, I'm *being* serious about it because A a message board involves just a ltle bit more than just setting up the A scripting and plopping it on the server and waiting for traffic. A I've run a web business since '95 and hosted many message boards; including A

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Angel
Hello again, RMR I don't know your site or your business, but I will guess that the RMR message boards where set up to provide a commercial service (again, RMR I'm just guessing). If that's true, then you or someone else had the RMR responsibility to provide a service, and to do it promptly.

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Angel, On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:21:33 -0700 GMT (25/10/02, 05:21 +0700 GMT), Angel wrote: Uh, it was an *example* broadly-named to represent the underlying possibilities (ie: meant to 'spawn ideas'), NOT meant to be an actual folder ;) I see. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:9180370206.20021024180244;email.com, Angel [A] wrote:' A Since my experience on TBUDL and the other TB! lists, I have A learned one thing that separates TB! from all else and that is A there IS help out there and it IS *prompt*. Why not

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:17997101935.20021024225827;myrealbox.com, Ricardo M. Reyes [RMR] wrote:' RMR But a TB! message board would be a hobby project, driven by RMR voluntaries, and you can't expect certain level of service in RMR those boards. You just hope to get

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-24 Thread Angel
ACM I agree here completely. The message boards success will hinge on ACM how helpful it is to those who go there. Prompt replies to requests ACM for help is definitely an important ingredient to encourage use of ACM the board. I agree that it's not something to take lightly. Yes... :) That was

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:34:41 -0400GMT (23-10-02, 1:34 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: PK On the other hand, if someone wants the change why not Usenet PK forum? This can be read on-line or off-line as desired. Can easily be spammed. Lots of e-mail harvesters. You need

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Peter, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 at 19:34:41 [GMT -0400], you wrote: PK Based on your explanation of the Message Board I agree with you PK 100%. The current system is much better, especially for people not PK connected all the time (broadband). I can read it off-line. This is really more a

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello List, if there is a need of a English spoken message board. I have on running since some weeks. It is a part of my TheBat Info page which is in the moment in German but will be translated to English soon. The Board is English. So let me now if there is really a need and i will configurated

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/22/2002, Peter Kerekes wrote: On the other hand, if someone wants the change why not Usenet forum? This can be read on-line or off-line as desired. Can download only messages interested in and ignore others. It's often difficult to start a new newsgroup. If you want to start one in the

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Gary! On Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 7:29:07 PM you wrote: I too agree in total with Thomas, and for additional reasons, one that being a webboard is not email, or will be used by email, which is the essence of TB! Also, by using and contributing to TBUDL, one can practice with the

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Jan! On Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 1:37:22 AM you wrote: I'm sorry. I don't get it. What's the advantage to that over this forum? Well, to people completely new to e-mailing a web site with posting capabilities (nothing more than a not-so-fancy database application) it would be

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Peter! On Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 7:07:07 PM you wrote: Telling what? I'm more anonymous there? I don't think I'm really anonymous there [1] That was my point. Although I do use my real name and a valid e-mail address I always get into discussions about posting anonymously or

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Adam
Hello Don, Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 1:46:18 AM, you wrote: DZ The author of Pocomail (probably the best client besides the Bat) runs a DZ support forum for his program, and it sees dozens of posts daily. I thought it was a puzzle how Slaven could support people through that webboard. DZ

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Don, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 00:04:17[GMT -0400](which was 05:04 where I live) you wrote: DZ Still, although I would like to stick a Bat Board up, there's no point in DZ doing so if it just sits there with empty forums and no users. That's why I DZ posted the idea to the list; to get an

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread ETM
Hello Mark On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, you wrote It's also loaded with annoying pop-up and pop-under ads. I won't be going back there again. -Mark Wieder Which is why I said no to using a message board. It appears the viable learning center for newbies remains this mailing list.

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo ETM, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:23:44 -0400 your time, you authored this: E Which is why I said no to using a message board. It appears the E viable learning center for newbies remains this mailing list. That board may have ads, but others

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Mark, On Wednesday, 23. October 2002 at 16:15:37 [GMT -0700] you wrote: Thomas- Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 6:26:04 AM, you wrote: TM if there is a need of a English spoken message board. I have on TM running since some weeks. It is a part of my TheBat Info page which TM is in the

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Gary
Hi Dierk, On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 10:56 AM, you mentioned about Proposal: The Bat! Message Board: D BTW, this started with the reference to beginners. Do beginners - D particularly the mentioned absolute beginners - really are served D with a newsgroup or a message board? Good

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
A And one *I* just thought of: The time zones. what do you mean by that? -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread ETM
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, you wrote 'Lo ETM, That board may have ads, but others don't. None of mine do, because I hate them mostly, and the people that use them do also. So maybe 'the viable learning center for newbies' seems to have switched back to a possible message

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/23/2002, Richard Wakeford wrote: But, from what I've been understanding you to be saying in your earlier posts, the forums are more to attract *new* TB! users via search engines and such than to take users off this mailing list where I, for one, would prefer to stay as I've never really

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Allie, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:20:54 -0500 GMT (23/10/02, 11:20 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: Here's an example of one that's well developed: Here is another one that works well and is also well-frequented: http://www.batworld.de/cgi-bin/batboard/ikonboard.cgi -- Cheers, Thomas.

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread jwayne
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 9:23:04 AM, Don Zeigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DZ Per an earlier thread I would like to propose a message board for the DZ purposes of promoting and discussing the Bat. DZ This board would be hosted on my web server and would run on either PHPBB or DZ Invision...

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Markus Gloede
Hi, Don Zeigler wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : So, feedback is needed: Good idea? Bad idea? Would you participate in a message board? Would you be interested in moderating a forum? How many forums would be required? I know that there is a German message board dedicated to the Bat.

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Don, On 22-10-2002 15:23, you [D] wrote in mid:5739275965.20021022092304;donzeigler.com: D So, feedback is needed: Good idea? Bad idea? I'll stick with the mailing lists, thank you. For convenience. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.62/Beta6

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Mary Bull
Hi, Don, You wrote: DZ... Per an earlier thread I would like to propose a message board for the purposes of promoting and discussing... I will link to the forum from my main page so Google will index the forum pages when it does its normal crawl. Great idea. DZ So, let me know what you think

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Don, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:23:04 -0400 your time, you authored this: DZ Per an earlier thread I would like to propose a message board for the DZ purposes of promoting and discussing the Bat. As I posted here

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:001301c279d2$0ed79e20$93e0e5cd;premiernet.net, Mary Bull [MB] wrote:' MB P.S. Any replies to this Post, please send to TBUDL List. I am MB temporarily back in Outlook Express and don't know how to set a MB From field for that in this Client.

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Joseph N.
Don, On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, Don Zeigler wrote in mid:5739275965.20021022092304;donzeigler.com: DZ Per an earlier thread I would like to propose a message board for the DZ purposes of promoting and discussing the Bat. DZ So, feedback is needed: Good idea? Bad idea? Would you participate

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Don, Going back 15:23 22.10.2002... This server currently hosts my personal site, which has been up two months and receives several hundred hits weekly. I will link to the forum from my main page so Google will index the forum pages when it does its normal crawl. Should you want, we

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, Don Zeigler wrote... Per an earlier thread I would like to propose a message board for the purposes of promoting and discussing the Bat. I'm not sure that it really is a good idea. I mean... that'd make people look in

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Paul Wilson
Tuesday, 10/22/2002, 8:28 AM Hi Don, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, at 09:23:04 [GMT -0400] (which was 6:23 AM where I live) you wrote about: 'Proposal: The Bat! Message Board' DZ So, feedback is needed: Good idea? Bad idea? Would you participate in a DZ message board? Would you be interested in

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Simon! On Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 4:00:45 PM you wrote: As I posted here mid:8131258953.20021020223212;theycallmesimon.co.uk I think that The Bat! Support Forums would be of major advantage to existing users and prospective users alike Is there a reason everybody interested

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Anne
Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 2:23:04 PM, Don wrote in message mid:5739275965.20021022092304;donzeigler.com DZ So, feedback is needed: Good idea? Bad idea? Would you participate in a DZ message board? Would you be interested in moderating a forum? How many DZ forums would be required? Don, As I

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jonathan, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:00:08 -0500 GMT (22/10/02, 22:00 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: I think it'd end up meaning those that are interested in helping out with TB, and helping other users get the most will mean they then have to watch two different locations instead of

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Dierk, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:17:18 +0200 your time, you authored this: DH Is there a reason everybody interested in a message board or newsgroup DH is always *discussing* it? I mean, wouldn't it be a good idea to just DH start it and see what

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Gary
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 12:19:32PM -0500 or thereabouts, Joseph N. wrote: On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, Thomas Fernandez wrote in mid:14318930794.20021022232631;gmx.net: TF I don't read webboards, because it is out of the TF question if you are on a pay-per-minute dial-up. Thomas

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread ETM
DZ Would you participate in a message board? No. Elaine Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:14318930794.20021022232631;gmx.net, Thomas Fernandez [TF] wrote:' TF I don't read webboards, because it is out of the question if you TF are on a pay-per-minute dial-up. When on dialup I just never used web boards because of this single

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Dave Crocker
Folks, Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 8:08:37 AM, you wrote: j I'd much rather use a message board than a mailing list. Lots of my Barry2 The important thing is for there actually to *be* a choice ?? Often, a discussion forum is sent as both a mailing list and a newsgroup, with a gateway doing the

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dave, 22-Oct-2002, 11:29 -0700 (19:29 UK time) Dave Crocker [DC] in mid:711462942.20021022112900;dcrocker.net said: DC Often, a discussion forum is sent as both a mailing list and a DC newsgroup, with a gateway doing the cross-posting. This lets

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Don, Tuesday, October 22, 2002, 9:23:04 AM, you wrote: DZ Per an earlier thread I would like to propose a message board for the DZ purposes of promoting and discussing the Bat. DZ This board would be hosted on my web server and would run on either PHPBB or DZ Invision... I'm currently

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Gary, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 at 12:29:07[GMT -0500](which was 18:29 where I live) you wrote: G I too agree in total with Thomas, and for additional reasons, one that G being a webboard is not email, or will be used by email, which is the G essence of TB! Also, by using and contributing to

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:45:31 -0400GMT (22-10-02, 23:45 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: PK I am a user only and are not that familiar with all the PK technicalities. PK Is message board same as a Usenet Forum? similar to PK alt.usenet.off-linereader.forte-agent or do we have

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Paul Wilson
Tuesday, 10/22/2002, 4:34 PM Hi Roelof, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, at 01:06:58 [GMT +0200] (which was 4:06 PM where I live) you wrote about: 'Proposal: The Bat! Message Board' RO Compare it with a crossover between hotmail and the list-archive. RO Depending on the settings and the used program the

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Paul, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:43:58 -0700GMT (23-10-02, 1:43 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: PW I totally agree with your thoughts, FN. Let the 'games' PW begin! Should that FN not be %TOFNAME ? Just to enhance the effect... -- Groetjes, Roelof

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Ricardo M. Reyes
DZ So, feedback is needed: Good idea? Bad idea? Would you participate in a DZ message board? Would you be interested in moderating a forum? How many DZ forums would be required? DZ So, let me know what you think of the idea. Thanks. I wouldn't participate, but I think it's a good idea :) I

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Tom Sadler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gi'day All, On Wednesday, 23 October 2002 at 01:45:35 GMT +0100^a (which was 10:45 AM where I live) Barry2 wrote:: B What a newbie to TB! really needs is clear instructions on how to B set the thing up so they can use it and switch over from their

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dave, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:29:00 -0700 GMT (23/10/02, 01:29 +0700 GMT), Dave Crocker wrote: A question that might be worth focusing on is what discussion groups are needed. tbudl is a very general discussion. As has been raised elsewhere, perhaps there should be a distinction

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Anne, On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 00:38:32 +0100 GMT (23/10/02, 06:38 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: (Makes me sound like the TB reading confirmation template! g) You are definitely infected by the TB fever. There is no known cure. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marck, On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:52:38 +0100 GMT (23/10/02, 02:52 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: DC Perhaps there should be a separate list for people who offer TB DC support? I don't see why TBTECH can't double up with that function - it's the place where the more technical

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/22/2002, Dierk Haasis wrote: Is there a reason everybody interested in a message board or newsgroup is always *discussing* it? I mean, wouldn't it be a good idea to just start it and see what happens? Or is the cost and maintenance today prohibitive? Not particularly... there are many

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/22/2002, Anne wrote: Also, what is useful if the option to be e-mailed when someone posts a reply to a forum question - including a quick link back to the reply if possible? Most of the scripts I've looked at have this feature -- the user has to turn it on in their preferences. You can

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/22/2002, Joseph N. wrote: While the division of forums (fora?) which Anne suggested could be helpful in some ways, I'm concerned that it would exacerbate the big problem with the message board idea to begin with: more time and effort. There would be more links to click to view messages,

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/22/2002, Gary wrote: I too agree in total with Thomas, and for additional reasons, one that being a webboard is not email, or will be used by email, which is the essence of TB! Also, by using and contributing to TBUDL, one can practice with the many features in real time usage of TB,

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/22/2002, Peter Kerekes wrote: Is message board same as a Usenet Forum? similar to alt.usenet.off-linereader.forte-agent or do we have to go somewhere else for the messages? You just point your browser to a specific URL to access a message board. If you're familiar with the old BBS

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In mid:15534405256.20021022174531;ca.inter.net, Peter Kerekes [PK] wrote:' PK I am a user only and are not that familiar with all the PK technicalities. Here's an example of one that's well developed: http://www.dslreports.com/forums Click on one

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/22/2002, Ricardo M. Reyes wrote: But I think it's a great idea to have a web message board, because it's a much better way to attract new users to TB!. And for the newbies, I think it would be much friendlier and comfortable than this high traffic list. I it would get search engines

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/22/2002, Jan Rifkinson wrote: And for those who pay per minute or are not working with cable, DSL, ADSL, etc, it would be expensive a giant pain wouldn't it? Lack of speed is the drawback, yes. Most forum scripts now will let you skin the interface, and for PHPBB, for example,

Re: Proposal: The Bat! Message Board

2002-10-22 Thread Don Zeigler
On 10/22/2002, Paul Wilson wrote: Sounds like a semi-blog setup. I am a member of several blogs. I have a throw away address that I use for them. I see a lot of spam on that address. E-mail harvesters love heavy traffic sites, anything other than anonymous posting seems a little chancy. You