Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-19 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mary Bull [MB] wrote:' MB Not only May. It most certainly *was* going on in my head MB several weeks ago. But, as Allie replied to my recent query to MB him on this List and Thread, the best way to handle

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-19 Thread Robin Anson
Allie On Monday, November 18, 2002, 1:25:23 AM, you wrote: Note the format of the To: address for this message. It's Paul Cartwright on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The only way to produce this is to use the %To macro, as described in the article, in my address book reply template for this list.

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-19 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Anson [RA] wrote:' RA Just to clarify, using this approach I can hit reply to one of RA the messages in the TBUDL digest I get, but to get the address RA as above, I need to click in the TO: field and enter the TBUDL RA address. This is because

Re[2]: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-18 Thread Deborah W
On Monday, November 18, 2002, 3:36:08 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Actually, no. The easiest way is to just take any message and hit TF reply, because the list address is filled in automatically. If you have the To field or the Reply-to field visible in your message headers, it's very easy to

Re[2]: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-18 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Thomas, Sunday, November 17, 2002, 9:36:08 PM, you wrote: snip TF On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 13:23:50 -0600 GMT (18/11/02, 02:23 +0700 GMT), TF Jonathan Angliss wrote: snip (2) They haven't figured out an easier way to start a new thread. Erm... stating the obvious, but what is wrong with

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-18 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Deborah W [DW] wrote:' DW If you have the To field or the Reply-to field visible in your DW message headers, it's very easy to right-click on one of them DW choose Write a message to this address :-) A hidden feature and this is the problem with it.

Re[2]: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-18 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allie, Monday, November 18, 2002, 5:46:32 AM, you wrote: snip DW ... choose Write a message to this address :-) ... ACM A hidden feature and this is the problem with it. ACM Newcomers invariably don't know about it so they choose the easiest ACM route they know about which is as Thomas

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-18 Thread Alexander Cicovic
Hello there, Monday, November 18, 2002, 1:49:46 AM, Melissa Reese wrote: MR Thanks Allie! I'm going to give PowerPro a try. FYI, because PowerPro is really difficult for many people in the start (even for very experienced users), there is a PowerPro Yahoo group where you can ask questions in

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-18 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Thomas! On Monday, November 18, 2002 at 4:36:08 AM you wrote: Actually, no. Actually, yes. If you have an AB template to fill in the value for the field automatically (I just have to put in TBU, TBO, TBB or TBT, the rest comes automatically). -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62/Beta6 on

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-18 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mary Bull [MB] wrote:' MB I wonder if that Welcome letter could be revised to put the two MB or three things a Newcomer first wants to try, right up MB front--perhaps even in the Netiquettely Rude Capitals

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dierk, On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 12:25:31 +0100 GMT (18/11/02, 18:25 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: Actually, no. Actually, yes. If you have an AB template That's an invalid assumption to make about a first-poster, I'd say. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner

Re[2]: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-18 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allie, Monday, November 18, 2002, 12:34:22 PM, you wrote: big snip ACM My personal take on the matter is to leave things as is and just ACM remind those who need to be reminded. Marck has some templates ACM prepared for this. I have a couple as well. You are most likely correct. And

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-18 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Sunday, November 17, 2002, 9:36:08 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Actually, no. The easiest way is to just take any message and hit reply, because the list address is filled in automatically. Why is it easier to have to edit the subject and delete the old message than to just use pull down for

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight, On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:32:09 -0600 GMT (19/11/02, 06:32 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: Actually, no. The easiest way is to just take any message and hit reply, because the list address is filled in automatically. Why is it easier to have to edit the subject and delete the

Re[2]: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-18 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Thomas, Monday, November 18, 2002, 9:15:05 PM, you wrote: TF On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:32:09 -0600 GMT (19/11/02, 06:32 +0700 GMT), TF Dwight A Corrin wrote: TFThe easiest way is to just take any message and hit tfreply, because the list address is filled in automatically. DAC Why is it

Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread John De Hoog
I wrote... Not to mention that the message still has the following headers from the thread it stole, only minutes after a warning about that very practice. **In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the sweetest guys on the planet reminded me privately that this

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Daniel Hirning
In reply to John's message 'Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)' on Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:11:39 +0900 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: JDH In the case of The Bat! and mailing lists, however, the easiest JDH way is not necessarily obvious. That is to embed the mailing list JDH address

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sunday, November 17, 2002, 7:11 AM, you wrote: JDH In the case of this mailing list, for example, let's assume you sort all JDH messages into a dedicated folder just for this list. Then in the folder JDH properties, you have templates for posting new messages and for replying. JDH In the

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote:' PC is this in the FAQ, or... maybe they should incorporate that PC into the supplied macros. Oh wait, you have to create the folder PC only if you filter the list, but who wouldn't! This method hasn't been included in the

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote:' PC hmm, I looked under HELP, for message header macros and didn't PC find that info:) It's not there .. yes. It's, however, an easily unrecognized behaviour of TB! that we've come to recognize. I just created that macro

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote:' PC I guess I just don't get it. Why would I need a To: macro in an PC addressbook entry. I was making reference to using it for replies. If you wish to adjust the To headers for your list replies then you'll need to use

Re[2]: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Andre Wichartz
On Sunday, November 17, 2002, 09:13:07 -0500 GMT (which was 15:13 local time), Paul Cartwright wrote: PC Here's a better one. I am also subscribed to TBOT, a yahoogroups list. PC My problem is, if I have the wrong focus, and create a message to the PC list from the wrong account, I get a nice

Re[2]: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Daniel, Sunday, November 17, 2002, 6:18:13 AM, you wrote: snip JDH ... the mailing list address ... DH Lets not forget what I regard as the easiest method. DH Set up a keyboard short cut to the Specials - Mailing lists - Post DH message menu. ... Could you please tell, step by step,

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo John, On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:11:39 +0900 your time, you said: JDH In the new messages template, after your signature, you will want to JDH add this macro: %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's the way I've always done it as well (well since I

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Simon [S] wrote:' S Never had a problem doing it like this, or any cock ups. Double click on this address and see where the message is addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . With %To='[EMAIL PROTECTED]' in your new message template, you'll see two addresses

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Allie, On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 11:51:56 -0500 your time, you said: ACM Double click on this address and see where the message is addressed to ACM [EMAIL PROTECTED] . With %To='[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Ahh,Iseetheproblem,and of

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Simon [S] wrote:' S Shows you how often I start a message by double-clicking an S address in a message, or from the headers right-click menu, or S such like :) ... and this is exactly how you get caught. You're so accustomed to not seeing that extra

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I wrote, S well it did after I removed the %TO in an %INCLUDEd template..I Of course I meant %TO= and %QINCLUDE, just for the record and so as not to cause a stream of corrections ;) - -- Slán, Simon @ theycallmesimon.co.uk

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Simon! On Sunday, November 17, 2002 at 5:46:49 PM you wrote: Using folder level templates for most things seems more coherent to me, and it also means of course that I can either simply highlight, in this case, my TBUDL inbox, or any message in my TBUDL inbox, and just hit F5 to

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Allie, On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 12:20:12 -0500 your time, you said: ACM ... and this is exactly how you get caught. ... You hit send with a ACM sensitive message and that's it. Fingers xrossed, I haven't been caught like that. Mind you, I am

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Simon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 'Lo Dierk, On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 18:22:37 +0100 your time, you said: DH First of all, I don't have to think about where my focus is at all - DH using AB templates. TB is most of the time minimised to TrayIcon... Yeah, that's a fair point,

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, November 17, 2002, John De Hoog wrote... Lots of people do this on mailing lists, and the reasons are generally very simple. (1) They haven't thought about how borrowing another message to start a new topic disrupts the threaded

Re[3]: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Daniel Hirning
In reply to Mary's message 'Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)'onSun,17Nov200209:24:10 -0600 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MB Could you please tell, step by step, what to do to accomplish MB this? I have limited skills with both Windows and TB

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sunday, November 17, 2002, at 5:33:46 AM PST, Allie C Martin wrote: For the unwary, using the above macro as described, is not without problems. If the user wishes to send a message to an e-mail address within one of the TBUDL message

Re[4]: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Daniel, Sunday, November 17, 2002, 3:43:16 PM, you wrote: snip MB ... step by step, what to do ... DH In the main TB window, click the View menu, and than the Edit DH Shortcuts entry. DH A new window will appear with a list of every menu in the program - DH you can assign a

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sunday, November 17, 2002, 9:25 AM, you wrote: PC I guess I just don't get it. Why would I need a To: macro in an PC addressbook entry. ACM I was making reference to using it for replies. If you wish to ACM adjust the To headers for your list replies then you'll need to use ACM the %To

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Melissa Reese [MR] wrote:' MR I highlight the text I want to quote and hit F4 (at this point, MR the list's address is the only one in the To field), then I MR invoke the QT, and the list address in the To field is MR replaced by the address of the

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Melissa Reese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sunday, November 17, 2002, at 3:29:36 PM PST, Allie C Martin wrote: If your needs and thoughts of what you wish to achieve are going in this direction, then I suggest that its time to install a macro tool. PowerPro is very good and is

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Melissa Reese [MR] wrote:' MR Thanks again Allie! You're welcome. :) Good luck with PowerPro. It's a tad intimidating at first as with TB! and its more advanced functions. However, a directed approach and enjoying a few benefits while leisurely

Re: Thread stealing (attempt to address the issues)

2002-11-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jonathan, On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 13:23:50 -0600 GMT (18/11/02, 02:23 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: (2) They haven't figured out an easier way to start a new thread. Erm... stating the obvious, but what is wrong with the Create a New Message button? Then type in the TO field the list