Re: New features in v1.60c vs v1.53
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mmc 2a. Virus Protection under Options. Which virus programs provide mmc pluggins for The Bat! Does Norton Anti-virus? If yes, how do I set mmc it up under options? AFAIK Kaspersky is the only AV with a TB plugin at this time. NAV 2002 checks emails independent of your email client. No need for setting anything under options. You can also check the archive for some more information - this has been debated quite recently. - -- Best regards, Georg A. Krohg, MSc Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP Key: http://www.krohg.no/pgpkrohg.txt iQA/AwUBPMuUyBnwtHouoT59EQJsLQCfZ4/bdgkefQvHLbcEfwrsr3z8r2IAoJcC aNxgQu7v49sYBK7BhSMCw1BP =vQSp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PGP or S/MIME ?
8 On Saturday, April 27, 2002, 23:57, you wrote That's however besides the point when you're in need of an immediately workable solution and not one that will work if and when you manage to get all other parties involved to install and learn how to use PGP. MAU That's one of the reasons why I'll go S/MIME, so I don't have to MAU force any of my correspondents to learn/use PGP. That is exactly how I see it MIguel. Its a shame for PGP is good and if the main mail clients integrated it perhaps there would be more take-up. Regrettably it is only The Bat and Turnpike that carry PGP as part of the default installation. Oh well off to acquaint myself with Verisign and s/mime! Regards Colin 8 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New features in v1.60c vs v1.53
Hello mocha9mail, 28. april 2002, 4:59:38, you wrote: mmc 2b. If I set my Preferences to Display HTML part of messages mmc automatically, do I have to worry about getting viruses through mmc email when I read those HTML messages -- and I don't double click any mmc attachments in those messages? You can't get a virus just by opening the message (as you can in Outlook), but if you double click the attached file and answer Yes at the prompt, you may get it. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] There's no such thing as a large whiskey. -- Rev. Mahaffy's Observation Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New features in v1.60c vs v1.53
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mocha9mail [M] wrote: ... M 1. When I upgrade to 1.60c, in some of my accounts, the program M added a new folder -- Inbox - Known. What is the difference M between Inbox and Inbox - Known? And why it is added only to some M of my accounts? The Inbox-Known folder is a 'common folder'. This is a recently added feature to TB! where you can create folders that reside outside accounts. If you collapse all your account folder trees, you'll see the Inbox-Known folder sitting there all by itself. It's auto-created for you as a folder to filter messages from known people in your address book to. Many, however, don't find it useful and wish to delete the folder. If you wish to, first go into each accounts filter rules configuration panel and disable the filter called 'known', then delete the folder. M 2a. Virus Protection under Options. Which virus programs provide M pluggins for The Bat! The plugins are currently in development. There's for NOD32, Panda Antivirus, Sophos Antivirus, Antivirus95NT. There may be a couple more. M Does Norton Anti-virus? No. M If yes, how do I set it up under options? Norton Antivirus comes packaged with its own mail checker and doesn't require any setup. It will just work once you enable it. M 2b. If I set my Preferences to Display HTML part of messages M automatically, do I have to worry about getting viruses through M email when I read those HTML messages -- and I don't double click M any attachments in those messages? 'Virus' infection in this context depends on your fetching embedded links in the HTML messages. TB! doesn't fetch links to images that are embedded in html messages for security reasons. Many wish for TB! to be able to do this but I hope that they now see the wisdom in TB!'s current design. If you wish to fetch embedded links then open the message in your browser by double-clicking the html attachment. M 3. Previously under v1.53, when I have my cursor on a READ message, M then View | Display | Unread Messages, my cursor would stay what it M was. No the cursor jumps to the first Unread Message, if there is M one; otherwise, it display none. Is that a change? Or is it a quirk M in my system? I pass here since I don't do this often enough to detect a pattern change. M 4. Filter of Sent mail. How do I do that? [There is no section for M Sent Mail, only Outgoing Mail, and the source is the Outbox.] You can filter sent mail at the point where they're being sent. This is what the outgoing filter rules set is for. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | ®TB! v1.60c | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8y9R7V8nrYCsHF+IRAtfkAKC0IZev1befLiNW8gIC2cCAaM8RrwCggPaB Q8CGmarTvFd20QwObE1CMM8= =90l4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Colouring folders
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, at 19:54:34 +0100 Marck wrote:
MDP The only way to do this is to replace the standard glyph images.
MDP There's an article by Tony Boom about that on the FAQ site,
Hmm, there's no glyph files in my TB folder[s]. Is that related only
to some particular versions?
MDP Did you read the article?
Yes, I did. Everybody who did it could find that some of necessary
informations are simply missing, or some which are given are
misleading.
To repeat where this article is:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/glyphs.html
MDP The default glyphs are built in. if a glyphs.bmp file is present,
MDP then it overrides the defaults. No file is present by default.
MDP This feature has been around since Max made this announcement:
MDP ,- [ Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:51:30 +0200 ]
MDP | The Bat!, starting from 1.38 Beta/4 has an ability to load external
MDP | custom glyphs.
MDP `-
Thanks for this answer. In the Tony's article only what is mentioned
about glyphs is that we have to:
1) Save the glyph.bmp file to The Bat directory, reboot TB! and see
what it looks like. -- without any notice anywhere that default
glyphs are built in (even is said glyph.bmp, not glyphs.bmp);
2) First of all, open P[aint]S[hop]P[ro] and then open the standard
glyph.bmp. Decide what glyph you're going to modify. -- How could one
open standard glyph.bmp if it is built in?
3) Another thing to remember is that the whole glyphs image file is
like a big grid. Each icon needs to be placed centrally in its own
square on this grid otherwise they may not be aligned or they may even
be part missing when TB uses them -- without any mention about
dimensions of this grid, number of icons and their sequence. Only what
is mentioned is that each icon is 25x25 pixels, without any notice
about dimensions of its own square. How could one place something of
25x25 pixs in the center of something with unknown dimensions, and
above all, which cannot be opened since it is built?
IMHO, this article should be updated and needed information which are
missing and are incorrect should be presented and corrected there.
Else, I would really appreciate any other source with complete and
correct informations.
Mandara
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Re: Colouring folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mandara [M] wrote: ... M Thanks for this answer. In the Tony's article only what is M mentioned about glyphs is that we have to: M 1) Save the glyph.bmp file to The Bat directory, reboot TB! and M see what it looks like. -- without any notice anywhere that M default glyphs are built in (even is said glyph.bmp, not M glyphs.bmp); M 2) First of all, open P[aint]S[hop]P[ro] and then open the M standard glyph.bmp. Decide what glyph you're going to modify. -- M How could one open standard glyph.bmp if it is built in? The history of this will reveal what the article is saying. In the early days of TB!, the toolbar icons looked different ... more spartan than the current ones. There was a cry for a facelift. TB!'s developers tend to do better than what's normally requested. In this spirit, they not only developed new glyphs for the toolbars, but developed a means for the users to create their own toolbar icons. Pretty much like in Opera. The newer glyphs were integrated in the TB! executable while the older, 'standard' ones were provided as a file called glyphs.bmp which one could use if they wished to by placing the file in the TB! installation directory and then restarting TB!. M 3) Another thing to remember is that the whole glyphs image file M is like a big grid. Each icon needs to be placed centrally in its M own square on this grid otherwise they may not be aligned or they M may even be part missing when TB uses them -- without any mention M about dimensions of this grid, number of icons and their sequence. M Only what is mentioned is that each icon is 25x25 pixels, without M any notice about dimensions of its own square. How could one M place something of 25x25 pixs in the center of something with M unknown dimensions, and above all, which cannot be opened since it M is built? Again, in the 'spirit' of TB!, the feature was added with no real documentation of it. The FAQ's article was written by one of the members of this list and as you can see, he was doing the whole thing without working with any real specs. M IMHO, this article should be updated and needed information which M are missing and are incorrect should be presented and corrected M there. Else, I would really appreciate any other source with M complete and correct informations. We are yet to have any official documentation of this. I don't know enough about that sort of thing to offer my own information. I don't know about Marck as well but I think he's in the same position as me. If Ritlabs doesn't provide information on this, then some cough 'reverse engineering' will be required and then the documentation created from this. At present the only updating that we can do is to change the part about loading the standard glyphs.bmp file. If you like, I could send you the current glyphs.bmp so that you can work on it. I don't know how I got it since it's so long ago, but I now have it. I'm really disappointed that this part didn't take off but I think it's the fact that the feature wasn't introduced when there were users who could in fact design nice toolbar icon sets combined with there being no detailed documentation of it in the help and newer users aren't aware of it. The feature isn't being promoted by Ritlabs either. IMO, it should be added in their feature list. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | ®TB! v1.60c | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8y95JV8nrYCsHF+IRAkXNAJ4kbHRqYlN9iNJTbpA/bC9tW/JLtQCffzyw rUBScSw3TmEtDD1FvPqyjeY= =t1bF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Colouring folders
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, at 06:34:31 -0500 Allie wrote:
ACM If you like, I could send you the current glyphs.bmp so that you can
ACM work on it. I don't know how I got it since it's so long ago, but I
ACM now have it.
Oh yes, please! :-) I just started playing with them and it is
pretty... contagious. ;) Thank you!
Mandara
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Re[4]: help downloading TB! new version g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, April 28, 2002 9:09:38 AM RE: help downloading TB! new version g Greetings, On Saturday, April 27, 2002, 9:29:15 AM, you wrote: reclutamiento Version g seems to be working fine for me. reclutamiento Am not experiencing any problems viewing in html or otherwise. reclutamiento I would try version h but I do not know the link to the ftp / beta reclutamiento site though I signed up on the beta list and the bug reclutamiento tacking / wish list. Guess I am missing that link... reclutamiento Anyone can point it out I would appreciate it. http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html Hope this helps. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. One picture is worth 128K words. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBPMv084ltdOMeoDcuEQIS7wCg07NfkGNqIbvN2kgvIzo3UOIhKGkAoOTv J175I85sgVMb57YBd2lMdYhf =dAtT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[4]: help downloading TB! new version g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, April 28, 2002 9:47:01 AM RE: help downloading TB! new version g Greetings Lynna, On Friday, April 26, 2002, 4:11:51 PM, you wrote: Lynna Never mind, found it. Though it is in .rar file format. Lynna I dont have that program, and the link leads to a Lynna redirect page. Seems that the .RAR program has a new Lynna home on the web due to the passing away of its previous Lynna owner / creator. So do you have to purchase the RAR Lynna program then to be able to download and install any of Lynna the files posted on the beta site? Why not use UltimateZip found at http://www.ultimatezip.com/ Supports ALL archive formats and is freeware. Hope this helps. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Be aware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 iQA/AwUBPMv9uYltdOMeoDcuEQJMjgCgpydGLnfQjc2e88604vYwTq96RtsAnAwq WXgScA2tyZX32TsUsnIMpQAx =7z3Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here a Bat, there a Bat, everywhere a Bat Bat...
My small collection of downloaded TB! files, held on hand in case I need to reinstall, now includes the following: 153t3,844 Kb 160c4,659 Kb 160h2,473 Kb It seems that I should be able to discard the 160c file in favor of the 160h file, but I am hesitant because of the difference in file sizes. The 160h file is the installation file on the RITlabs web site as of today; it appears to be the complete program, not simply the program executable. The 160c file was, I think, the same type of offering on the same web site. 1. Why are they so different in size? 2. Any reason to retain the 160c file? (or the 153t file?) -- JN Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Here a Bat, there a Bat, everywhere a Bat Bat...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, April 28, 2002, at 9:38:48 AM PST, Joseph N. wrote: My small collection of downloaded TB! files, held on hand in case I need to reinstall, now includes the following: As you can see below, I get a very different size reading on the 1.60c .exe file. I've included the MD5 HASH I get from each, so you can compare with yours. 153t3,844 Kb 3844096 bytes (3.66 MB) file [...\tb153t\thebat.exe]... MD5: 6FADF1563D064C8A6087030AA51D86CC 160c4,659 Kb 2472857 bytes (2.35 MB) file [...\the_bat160c.exe]... MD5: 2F19154CED46343969003D5E0D255A28 160h2,473 Kb 2472829 bytes (2.35 MB) file [...\the_bat160h.exe]... MD5: 8C7C1682444FB820FF70639DB8E33996 It seems that I should be able to discard the 160c file in favor of the 160h file, but I am hesitant because of the difference in file sizes. The 160h file is the installation file on the RITlabs web site as of today; it appears to be the complete program, not simply the program executable. The 160c file was, I think, the same type of offering on the same web site. I don't know if 1.60h has been changed since I tried it early yesterday, but when I did, it had a bug that would not allow me to open S/MIME signed messages. I went back to 1.60c, and all is well again. 1. Why are they so different in size? I don't know. 2. Any reason to retain the 160c file? (or the 153t file?) Yes - see my problem/solution with 1.60h above. Since each file doesn't take up so much space, I always keep a copy (at least on CD-R). If you're worried about space on your hard drive, you can always keep backup copies on CD (a good idea anyway; in case something happens to your hard drive). Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xFB04F2E9Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8zDKYjVbXUvsE8ukRAj+aAKD8DaSEzQgp1M+kGVXoiTpGrsP6qwCg7aFA C6/JUcSzJiZ5qO1+8JnMMD8= =2aEe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1.60h seems *much* faster...
Hey TBUDL, Wow, I am impressed (always have been, but more so now...) I had not noticed TB! being slow, but I sure did notice a speed increase after loading 1.60h! It used to take a few seconds on my P3 1.2Ghz processor, but now it is like .5 sec to load! Other features are also faster. Way to go RIT Labs guys! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60h Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Don't get old, you will live to regret it. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: PGP or S/MIME ?
Hello Allie, Saturday, April 27, 2002, 2:11:35 PM, you wrote: ACM It's not a question of the need being there since he has decided ACM to use one solution. It's a matter of which is the more ACM appropriate under the circumstances. Can you use either method depending upon the individual circumstances involved with whom you are communicating on a per message basis? -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using TB! v1.60c Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PGP or S/MIME ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Strong [GS] wrote: ... GS Can you use either method depending upon the individual GS circumstances involved with whom you are communicating on a per GS message basis? Yes, you certainly can. I'd always use PGP/GnuPG if I could help it. The thing with S/MIME is that you can't really verify a persons identity or that all messages are really coming from the same sender as easily as with PGP. With PGP you can easily associate messages with a particular sender without necessarily knowing their true identity. In a lot of instances (my list messages as a moderator) being a good example, this is all that's needed. With S/MIME, I don't see how you can achieve this as a freemail member. You have to get full identity certification through an authorized notary seeing you face to face with proper identification or through sending the necessary documents to Thawte with the required payment. A question for the S/MIME users. Do you have to first import a copy of the senders S/MIME key in your address book before you can test the validity of any of the senders S/MIME signed messages? I think this is the case with TB! but is this the case with OE and other S/MIME compliant clients? You can use S/MIME and PGP interchangeably but where ever the opportunity presents itself, I think you should go for PGP. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | ®TB! v1.60c | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8zEZBV8nrYCsHF+IRAp2nAKDfsW3EhC0TKnZfc3kYOVXQbY46agCfWIFh LqCWe61iHhKhjlCqLrFter0= =jBZO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Here a Bat, there a Bat, everywhere a Bat Bat...
Hello Joseph, 28. april 2002, 18:38:48, you wrote: JN 1. Why are they so different in size? 1.53 (and earlier) were written in Delphi 2.0, which created smaller executables. 1.54beta10e and newer are written in Delphi 6. The 1.60h is compressed with EXE packer (I think it's UPX URL:http://upx.sf.net/), and is therefore smaller. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] There are two types of people: those who divide people into two types, and those who don't. -- Benchley's Distinction Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML with The Bat!
Friday, April 26, 2002, 7:11:04 PM, Roelof scribbled: TH Can anyone tell me how to make HTML based emails with The Bat! ? RO Can't be done. TB is a plain text e-mail client. For which I am profoundly grateful! Blocking HTML email is one of the BEST features of this program. Mike smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: importing from Eudora
Saturday, April 27, 2002, 2:57:25 AM, Deborah scribbled: D I would like to import saved email messages from Eudora, but have not D been able to do so. On the drop-down menu, the Import command gives D several options, but none of them includes importing from Eudora. I D tried to use the Import Wizard, which gives the option of importing D from Eudora, but it doesn't seem to recognise Eudora's file-format This is a known problem with 1.60c that appears to be fixed in 1.60h. Given the S/MIME problems reported in 1.60h, I will not be installing that. I do know that 1.53t worked just fine, and I'm considering backlevel installing to that release, since it seems to have far fewer reported bugs. Mike smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
I cannot open email with yellow icon in 1.60h
Hello, Thought I'd try version 1.60h :) However I find that email which have the small round yellow icon with a tick over the envelope cannot be opened with 1.60h. I thought it might be an old 'cannot view HTML email' problem I've had in the past. When I reverted to 1.60c I found the email could be opened but was just plain text email but with an invalid signature marker. Is it me should I have done something ;) -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.60c. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. version 5.50.4807.2300IC SP2 Currently watching BBC1 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I cannot open email with yellow icon in 1.60h
I have the same problem. The message in this group from Michael Disabato created at 3:12 PM today is not readable in 1.60h. John Sands -Original Message- From: David Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002, 3:52:25 PM, Subject: I cannot open email with yellow icon in 1.60h Hello, Thought I'd try version 1.60h :) However I find that email which have the small round yellow icon with a tick over the envelope cannot be opened with 1.60h. I thought it might be an old 'cannot view HTML email' problem I've had in the past. When I reverted to 1.60c I found the email could be opened but was just plain text email but with an invalid signature marker. Is it me should I have done something ;) Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I cannot open email with yellow icon in 1.60h
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, April 28, 2002, at 12:52:25 PM PST, David Stone wrote: Is it me should I have done something ;) 1.60h has a bug that prevents you from opening S/MIME signed messages (the little check mark icon signifies that the message was signed using S/MIME). I too have gone back to 1.60c, and everything works properly again. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xFB04F2E9Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8zFSwjVbXUvsE8ukRAhoFAJ9HHZNDZRD6iluUaFW1GxMgsSMsTQCfa2BY ITi+aRMgIznHdsLn3xk6lWo= =+ARx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Invalid date to encode
Hi all, I have been using TB for about a week and recently upgraded my trial to 1.60h. When I now load the program I get a dialog box saying invalid date to encode this is quickly obscured by the evaluation version window. When I close the eval window I cannot access the dialog box. However I can see that it is there when I minimize the window! I have also got an odd message which appears when I try to exit which says: Some tasks are now active Do you wish to exit when they are finished? Yes or No. Regardless of what I press I always have to end the task. I am running on Windows XP Pro. Does anyone have any ideas? -- Best regards, Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML with The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Roelof On 27 April 2002 at 02:11:04 +0200 (which was 01:11 where I live) Roelof Otten rearranged electrons to get TH Can anyone tell me how to make HTML based emails with The Bat! ? RO Can't be done. TB is a plain text e-mail client. Yes it can. It is not easy. - From the FAQ You can create an HTML document and attach it to an email message. You can then export the message with the HTML attachment to a .MSG file, change the 'content-type' header from 'multipart/mixed' to 'multipart/alternative', import the message back into the outbox and finally (phew!) send it. Obviously, this procedure is not for the faint hearted. (My thanks to Oleg Zalyalov for this tip) - -- See you in Cyber space, ___ David | SecureBat! 1.60 d / iKey1000 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Yum, yum--buggy cows and oozy cabbage! Pass the ketchup.| ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Build 07 Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBPMxfgfmK8eZlD0U0EQLXSwCg7swsLu32a0mAN9lbl/MQKf54NUEAn3rU 9MNY7nuO5Jejyk5BuVqVbxo2 =IlX9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Colouring folders
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, at 06:34:31 -0500 Allie wrote:
...
M IMHO, this article should be updated and needed information which
M are missing and are incorrect should be presented and corrected
M there. Else, I would really appreciate any other source with
M complete and correct informations.
ACM We are yet to have any official documentation of this. I don't know
ACM enough about that sort of thing to offer my own information. I don't
ACM know about Marck as well but I think he's in the same position as me.
ACM If Ritlabs doesn't provide information on this, then some cough
ACM 'reverse engineering' will be required and then the documentation
ACM created from this. At present the only updating that we can do is to
ACM change the part about loading the standard glyphs.bmp file.
...
Hm, I think that Tony's old article can be useful yet, just if is
added some old (downloadable) bmp grid with it. Even with only the
grid accessible, one can do the job just fine, since is easily visible
where is what, so it is easy to decide what to replace.
After you sent me (thanks again!) one of those glyphs.bmps, I made
wished changes and am completely satisfied now (I couldn't stand just
few things - folders (;-, colors and shape). Maybe is not a bad idea
to upload several grids (originals and modified by users), so that
assortment can be more luxuriant. If there is an interest for it,
I can offer, as a first one :), what I did with my grid (folders
looks really nice, at least to my eyes ;-).
Mandara
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Re: Colouring folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mandara [M] wrote: ... M Maybe is not a bad idea to upload several grids (originals and M modified by users), so that assortment can be more luxuriant. M If there is an interest for it, I can offer, as a first one :), M what I did with my grid (folders looks really nice, at least to M my eyes ;-). I'd sure love to see what your set now looks like. Hopefully, if we have some nicely modified glyphs, we could create a web page for them. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | ®TB! v1.60c | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8zGnAV8nrYCsHF+IRAgz6AJ4wy7WgWLXNjJITpf/zBXvrACf/GgCfTyrV OZhpJB2VOETsQp7J1D1Nd9c= =HFXs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML with The Bat!
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, at 21:45:51 +0100 David wrote:
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DE Obviously, this procedure is not for the faint hearted. (My thanks to Oleg
DE Zalyalov for this tip)
And my thanks to you for you shared it with me/us. :-)
Mandara
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Re: Colouring folders
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, at 16:29:36 -0500 Allie wrote:
ACM Mandara [M] wrote:
ACM ...
M Maybe is not a bad idea to upload several grids (originals and
M modified by users), so that assortment can be more luxuriant.
M If there is an interest for it, I can offer, as a first one :),
M what I did with my grid (folders looks really nice, at least to
M my eyes ;-).
ACM I'd sure love to see what your set now looks like.
One copy of this message with attached piece goes to your address.
:-)
ACM Hopefully, if we have some nicely modified glyphs, we could create a
ACM web page for them.
Anyway, maybe folks would like to have some gallery of glyphs for
disposal.
Mandara
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Re: I cannot open email with yellow icon in 1.60h
Hi David On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 20:52:25 +0100GMT (which was 28/04/2002, 21:52 +0200GMT for me), you wrote: DS Is it me should I have done something ;) a work-around: go to options, smime choose microsoft CryptoAPI then the messages will show just fine (after a slight delay) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zum Antworten bitte Lederhosen entfernen * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * You're too drunk when...You don't recognize wife unless seen through bottom of glass... Using The Bat! 1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML with The Bat!
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, at 23:06:47 +0200 Mandara wrote:
DE Obviously, this procedure is not for the faint hearted. (My
DE thanks to Oleg Zalyalov for this tip)
M And my thanks to you for you shared it with me/us. :-)
Actually, I found much easier way to do this: just make a html page
and attach it in message. If you have some pictures and background
inside, attach them too. So, no any export/import work around nor
modifying headers.
I sent it to myself and received by Messenger: it looks quite
properly, with pictures, tables and background pic on their places.
Mandara
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Birus
I got a spam with 3 tabs in it: The following is in Tab 1: -- Virus Warning Message (on scc077) Found virus WORM_KLEZ.G in file http.exe The uncleanable file is deleted. - The following is in Tab 2 -- Virus Warning Message (on scc077) http.exe is removed from here because it contains a virus. - Tab 3 is titled message.html which is blank. The spam also has 2 attachments: message.html and snead_j1.jpg I did not double-click on either of those attachments. Are Tabs 1 2 from The Bat! program -- that it found virus and deleted them? Or are they part of the spam message? If the later, am I infected? [I have checked display HTML part of messages automatically. I also used AVG to scan memory and all my hard drives for virus; and AVG reports none.] Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.60c Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Here a Bat, there a Bat, everywhere a Bat Bat...
Melissa, it turns out that the 160c file I detailed was the program executable, not the installation package. It's in use now (having reverted from 160h), and working fine. What size is your 160c executable? (And how, BTW, would I calculate or verify the MD5 hash?) JN Melissa Reese wrote on Sunday, April 28, 2002: 160c4,659 Kb 2472857 bytes (2.35 MB) file [...\the_bat160c.exe]... MD5: 2F19154CED46343969003D5E0D255A28 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Birus
Hello mocha9mail, On Sunday, April 28 2002 at 03:41 PM PDT, you wrote: Are Tabs 1 2 from The Bat! program -- that it found virus and deleted them? Or are they part of the spam message? I think they are part of the message. One tab would be for plain text, while the others probably represent the HTML and attachments. As for being infected, it appears as if AVG caught it in time, although WORM_KLEZ.G is allegedly supposed to infect someone even by viewing the message. That however, may only be possible if one's Mail Client is set up such that malicious HTML code is automatically executed from within messages. In any case, apparently NAV has a tool on their Web site that removes this particular worm. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Birus
That is the way Norton fixes virus e-mail when you use their pop site to fetch your mail. Sunday, April 28, 2002, 6:41:58 PM, mocha9mail wrote: I got a spam with 3 tabs in it: The following is in Tab 1: -- Virus Warning Message (on scc077) Found virus WORM_KLEZ.G in file http.exe The uncleanable file is deleted. - The following is in Tab 2 -- Virus Warning Message (on scc077) http.exe is removed from here because it contains a virus. - Tab 3 is titled message.html which is blank. The spam also has 2 attachments: message.html and snead_j1.jpg I did not double-click on either of those attachments. Are Tabs 1 2 from The Bat! program -- that it found virus and deleted them? Or are they part of the spam message? If the later, am I infected? [I have checked display HTML part of messages automatically. I also used AVG to scan memory and all my hard drives for virus; and AVG reports none.] Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.60c Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Genemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows 2000 [version 5.0.2195] Mail Client: THE BAT 1.60h Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML with The Bat!
Hello Mandara, On Sunday, April 28 2002 at 03:23 PM PDT, you wrote: Actually, I found much easier way to do this: just make a html page and attach it in message. With the WORM_KLEZ.G floating around, why would you even consider sending someone an HTML page? Better to send them a link to that page and let them decide on their own. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: New features in v1.60c vs v1.53
Sunday, April 28, 2002, Allie C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mocha9mail [M] wrote: ... M 1. When I upgrade to 1.60c, in some of my accounts, the program M added a new folder -- Inbox - Known. What is the difference M between Inbox and Inbox - Known? And why it is added only to some M of my accounts? The Inbox-Known folder is a 'common folder'. This is a recently added feature to TB! where you can create folders that reside outside accounts. If you collapse all your account folder trees, you'll see the Inbox-Known folder sitting there all by itself. Mine is a folder *inside* the Accounts -- some of them, not every Account. They were put there when I installed 1.60c. I collapsed all my Accounts; and I don't see a Separate Inbox-Known folder. How do I set that up (and I can delete those inside the Account)? [I am using the default Full-width Preview Pane mode; and none of my *known* filter is active.] Thanks in advance. JM Using The Bat! 1.60c Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML with The Bat!
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, at 16:10:41 -0700 Nick wrote:
Actually, I found much easier way to do this: just make a html page
and attach it in message.
NA With the WORM_KLEZ.G floating around, why would you even consider sending
NA someone an HTML page? Better to send them a link to that page and let them
NA decide on their own.
Oh, it was just a matter of a technical solution regarding Bat.
Personally I'm sending html messages very rarely, usually if someone
likes some multicolored birthday cards (made by me, and when I know
what codes exactly are inside) and similar. Aside that all of that
stuff is AV checked before sending.
Mandara
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Re: smart filter for worm viruses :-)
Hello Liviu FEODOROV (RAL Computers), On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:39:26 +0300 GMT your local time, which was Monday, April 22, 2002, 6:39:26 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Liviu FEODOROV (RAL Computers) wrote: I want to make a simple filter: I want to delete FROM SERVER any message with .scr, .bat, .pif, etc etc atachments Use Zone alarm, it takes also care of it... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60c mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: PGP or S/MIME ?
Hello Allie, Sunday, April 28, 2002, 1:58:08 PM, you wrote: ACM You can use S/MIME and PGP interchangeably but where ever the ACM opportunity presents itself, I think you should go for PGP. I would agree. You have to be able to communicate with whomever under whatever is agreed upon between the parties. As a new user to both GPG TB! from what I've learned so far, I would rather use GPG (or PGP) because it appears more versatile. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using TB! v1.60c Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: I cannot open email with yellow icon in 1.60h
Hello John, Sunday, April 28, 2002, 11:58:54 AM, you wrote: Sands I have the same problem. The message in this group from Michael Sands Disabato created at 3:12 PM today is not readable in 1.60h. I have no problems reading the messages from this same person and I am now using the h version as well. I had already viewed these same messages using the g version but I downloaded h and installed and I could still view the same messages. reading someone elses message that it should use Microsoft API rather than internal I changed the settings. I can still read the messages. The only difference I have noticed is that before, using internal the message signature always appeared as invalid signature now using Microsoft API it shows to be a valid signature... So at least this seems to be a improvement. I have absolutely no problems with h thus far. Virus detection plug in isolated and quaranteened two messages which I have since deleted. Everything seems to be working great. Lynna Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Info on Upgrades
Hi there, 1.) As a paid registered user of 1.60C Personal. Can I d/l 1.60h and NOT get into a 30-day trial loop again? 2.) Tips would be appreciated on how to install h over c. Maybe a ref or FAQ is available on this? 3.) I didn't get Installation Wizard when I ran my initial d/l of the_bat.exe and installed it manually (19 Apr). Working OK, but I think things are wrong or missing... like I don't get tooltips on any bat screen. But all my files are accessible Ok, including Help. Uninstall doesn't seem to exist for this program. My OS is MS-Me... Have been using since last August, with OE. Ideas on uninstall and install h. Or what? Thanks Julius Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: PGP or S/MIME ?
Hello Allie, Sunday, April 28, 2002, 1:58:08 PM, you wrote: ACM I'd always use PGP/GnuPG if I could help it. I was installing WinPT. In the PDF file for the install it refers to OpenPGP that I believe is GPG (i.e. same as GnuPG at http://www.gnupg.org/). What functionality specifically does Ritlabs mean on their website at http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/features.html by saying Internal (no DLLs needed) fast PGP implementation based on the award-winning OpenSSL lets you encrypt message and sign them with digital signatures. Also available as a free stand-alone Digital Keys Library. Handy manager for digital keys. Free plugins for PGP v5.5, v6.0.2 6.5.? I know SSL stands for Secure Socket Layer which is different from encryption, but if you follow the OpenSSL link it goes on to state ...as well as a full-strength general purpose cryptography library. It seems to infer there maybe some functionality I'm missing here which is why I ask the question. To my knowledge I have to use the Tray windows application to manually sign messages when using GPG. Reading this list I believe you can have on the fly seamless signing with PGP which to my knowledge is owned by NAI. Please clarify. TIA! -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using TB! v1.60c Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
