Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
Hello Charles, On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 07:19:37 +0200 GMT (03/07/2004, 12:19 +0700 GMT), Charles M. Gerungan wrote: CMG Especially when you look at the last paragraph, it's clear that TB CMG should destroy the message-id before sending the message out. CMG Can you see it now? Yes, I do. Like you, I disagree with Roloef on this. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sorry, Officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problems copying Russian text from email-body
Hello Cyrille, On Saturday, July 3, 2004, at 00:07, you wrote: C From Windows 2000 onwards the clipboard fully supports unicode. That C means that your problem is not there. If you are having this problem C when you copy *from* TB not only to *one* particular application, but C to *different* other applications, it is probable that not all the C other applications cause the same problem, but that the problem starts C already when you copy from TB. I am 100% sure that this is TheBat! problem. I've tried to paste Russian text from TheBat! to IE, Opera adress prompts, Outlook Express, UniRed (all these programs supports unicode) -- instead of Cyrillic characters I get question marks. Copying/pasting Russian text between these programs works just fine. Even when I trie to copy/paste Russian text from one The Bat! window to another, I get question marks. C One last thing you might try (but I have little hope) is to copy not C from a KOI8-R coded message, but from a Windows coded message (Windows C 1251). This might make it a little easier to get the copied text drom C TB to the Windows clipboard. Does not make any difference. -- Edvinas Using The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
Hallo Charles, On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 07:19:37 +0200GMT (3-7-2004, 7:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CMG If you quote, do it correctly. Here's Roelof's paragraph which I quoted CMG and was right before your 50: CMG Especially when you look at the last paragraph, it's clear that TB CMG should destroy the message-id before sending the message out. Ah, but I meant to say should not -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
Hallo Thomas, On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 11:38:14 +0700GMT (3-7-2004, 6:38 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO Not the receiving mta, but the first mta. TF The first receiving MTA? ;-) The MTA that has the most regular connection to the sending client. 'Receiving mta' is easily explained as the mta of the recipient's isp. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
Hallo Thomas, On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 12:32:12 +0700GMT (3-7-2004, 7:32 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TF Yes, I do. Like you, I disagree with Roloef on this. You should, because I forgot the word 'not', I guess I was already asleep and typing with my eyes closed, when I sent that message. (3:00 AM local time) -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
poor Unicode support (was: problems copying Russian text from email-body)
Hello Edvinas, Saturday, July 3, 2004, 8:29:49 AM, you wrote: I am 100% sure that this is TheBat! problem. I've tried to paste Russian text from TheBat! to IE, Opera adress prompts, Outlook Express, UniRed (all these programs supports unicode) -- instead of Cyrillic characters I get question marks. Even when I try to copy/paste Russian text from one The Bat! window to another, I get question marks. And what happens with Baltic characters? I asked some time ago on this list, whether somebody knows what are Ritlab's plans for unicode/utf-8, but nobody seems to know... -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.11.02, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: poor Unicode support (was: problems copying Russian text from email-body)
Hello Cyrille, On Saturday, July 3, 2004, at 12:18 Lithuanian Time, you wrote: Even when I try to copy/paste Russian text from one The Bat! window to another, I get question marks. C And what happens with Baltic characters? With Baltic characters everything is correct. Problem occures when copy/paste is performed with characters from different charset than system default. -- Edvinas Using The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: poor Unicode support (was: problems copying Russian text from email-body)
Hello Cyrille, On 3 Jul 2004 at 12:18:22 +0200 GMT [12:18 CEST] you wrote: C I asked some time ago on this list, whether somebody knows what are C Ritlab's plans for unicode/utf-8, but nobody seems to know... Ritlabs said it is planned. That's all we know. -- Cheers, Andre Let me assure you that to us here at First National, you're not just a number. You're two numbers, a dash, three more numbers, another dash and another number. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
Hello Roelof, On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 11:45:33 +0200 UTC, Roelof Otten wrote: RO Ah, but I meant to say should not And you didn't inhale :). -- Regards, Charles. Using TB! 2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Table formatting
Hello, Although I only use HTML formatted messages to the extent of less than 1%, I'm wondering if there is a way to change the Table formatting that is provided by The Bat. How can one change either the color of the table borders or the style (a single line instead of a double line). -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
Hello Roelof, On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 11:50:28 +0200 GMT (03/07/2004, 16:50 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF Yes, I do. Like you, I disagree with Roloef on this. RO You should, because I forgot the word 'not', I guess I was already RO asleep and typing with my eyes closed, when I sent that message. RO (3:00 AM local time) I'm so glad to hear this, because I have come to know you as someone who really knows this stuff. :-) Turns out you are only human after all. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Isn't is it a bit unnerving that doctors call what they do practice? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
Hallo Thomas, On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 22:52:42 +0700GMT (3-7-2004, 17:52 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TF Turns out you are only human after all. Of course I'm human, otherwise I wouldn't be as daft to keep budgies and bunnies, wouldn't I? -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Table formatting
Hello Costas, On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:21:28 +0300 GMT (03/07/2004, 21:21 +0700 GMT), Costas Papadopoulos wrote: CP Although I only use HTML formatted messages to the extent of less than CP 1%, I'm wondering if there is a way to change the Table formatting CP that is provided by The Bat. How can one change either the color of CP the table borders or the style (a single line instead of a double CP line). I couldn't find an option for that either. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The company made me a scapegoat, just like my three previous employers. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Table formatting
Hi Costas Papadopoulos - On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, at 17:21:28 [GMT +0300] (which was 7:21 AM where I live) you wrote: Hello, Although I only use HTML formatted messages to the extent of less than 1%, I'm wondering if there is a way to change the Table formatting that is provided by The Bat. How can one change either the color of the table borders or the style (a single line instead of a double line). I couldn't find anything. I think if you want to do fancy table formatting and manipulation, you'll have to import something you created with another application (i.e. Excel, Word, etc.) -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpSsr45H1OgX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: poor Unicode support
Hi Edvinas, on Saturday, July 3, 2004 at 12:43 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Even when I try to copy/paste Russian text from one The Bat! window to another, I get question marks. C And what happens with Baltic characters? With Baltic characters everything is correct. Problem occures when copy/paste is performed with characters from different charset than system default. Unicode is also for me very urgent, because I cannot write Polish characters in the addressbooks and in all templates and quick templates! -- Best regards, Roland PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 (DH/DSS) I use The Bat! v2.12 Beta/6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: poor Unicode support
Hi Andre, on Saturday, July 3, 2004 at 12:55 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: C I asked some time ago on this list, whether somebody knows what are C Ritlab's plans for unicode/utf-8, but nobody seems to know... Ritlabs said it is planned. That's all we know. Ritlabs said this a very lon time ago and Ritlabs also had said that in version 2 it is included, but it wasn't!!! -- Best regards, Roland PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 (DH/DSS) I use The Bat! v2.12 Beta/6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: poor Unicode support
Hi Roland Burger - On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, at 18:21:10 [GMT +0200] (which was 9:21 AM where I live) you wrote: Unicode is also for me very urgent, because I cannot write Polish characters in the addressbooks and in all templates and quick templates! If it makes you feel any better, I have the same problem with Chinese characters. I certainly don't have this problem with Outlook. -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpPs9nlZ7Tgj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Replacing icons
Hi list, Found some icons on batworld.de that I like. Also found information about how to replace the icons modifying/or replacing the glyphs.bmp-file. My problem is that I can't seem to find the glyphs.bmp file on my harddrive. Can someone help me or is this a pre-2.x feature? Cheers -- Thomas Andersson - Sweden Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running The Bat! 2.11 on Windows XP Build number 2600 Service Pack 1 Running [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu) No of SETI units returned: 338 Processing time: 162 days, 18 hours. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0427-1, 2004-07-02 Tested on: 2004-07-03 18:27:19 avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2003 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me
Hello Roelof, On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 18:07:00 +0200 GMT (03/07/2004, 23:07 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO Of course I'm human, otherwise I wouldn't be as daft to keep budgies RO and bunnies, wouldn't I? I always thought they were electronic, like tamagochis, you know. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Isch des it herrlich, wie frisch d' Luft huet morge isch? - Ha, ko Wunder, si isch jo d' ganz Nacht dusse gsi. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replacing icons
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 18:27:16 +0200 GMT (03/07/2004, 23:27 +0700 GMT), Thomas Andersson wrote: TA My problem is that I can't seem to find the glyphs.bmp file on my TA harddrive. Can someone help me or is this a pre-2.x feature? Not really. If there is no glyphs.bmp file, TB will use the default. Only if TB finds such a file, the glyphs shown will be taken from that file. So, if you have never used custom glyphs before, you won't have this file. Just download it and place it into the TB directory, restart TB and enjoy. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: If you decide to start dancing in the street, everyone you bump into will know all the steps. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replacing icons
Hello TBUDL, on Sat, 3. Jul 2004 at 18:27:16 +0200 Thomas Andersson wrote: My problem is that I can't seem to find the glyphs.bmp file on my harddrive. There is nor original one. Just copy glyphs.bmp into \Program Files\The Bat where thebat.exe lies and you should be done. -- :dAniel_hAhler: shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Lifted with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP Service Pack 1. Random software tip: [***] jEdit, for software development (http://www.jedit.org) Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replacing icons
Hello Thomas! On Saturday, July 03, 2004, 11:27 AM, you wrote: TA My problem is that I can't seem to find the glyphs.bmp file on my TA harddrive. Can someone help me or is this a pre-2.x feature? Have you looked in The Bat!/Images/pdsf.msl ? Do you find it alphabetically, among all the image files listed in your Images folder? I'm using v. 2.11.02 . I had to upgrade from v. 2.00.06 in order to have this file. You didn't show what version you are using? Only said v. 2.ll? -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Replacing icons
Saturday, July 3, 2004, 6:33:18 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Thomas, TF On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 18:27:16 +0200 GMT (03/07/2004, 23:27 +0700 GMT), TF Thomas Andersson wrote: TA My problem is that I can't seem to find the glyphs.bmp file on my TA harddrive. Can someone help me or is this a pre-2.x feature? TF Not really. If there is no glyphs.bmp file, TB will use the default. TF Only if TB finds such a file, the glyphs shown will be taken from TF that file. So, if you have never used custom glyphs before, you won't TF have this file. Just download it and place it into the TB directory, TF restart TB and enjoy. Easy enough... :-) That did the trick! Thanks! /Thomas --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0427-1, 2004-07-02 Tested on: 2004-07-03 18:48:10 avast! is copyright (c) 2000-2003 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
write Central European characters in templates (was: poor Unicode support)
Witaj Roland, Saturday, July 3, 2004, 6:21:10 PM, you wrote: Unicode is also for me very urgent, because I cannot write Polish characters in the addressbooks and in all templates and quick templates! You can!!! My templates generate Polish text with plenty of beautiful , ,,,...etc. I suppose that the default codepage of your system is 'Western'. This is why TB displays instead of the Central European characters the characters which have the in the Western character table the same position. TB does this in the address book, the templates, and in the menus (if you switch TB's menu language to Polish), but not in the message editor if you choose the right charset for the message. If you switched you system's default codepage to Central European, you would not have this problem any more. (But other problems (-: ...) What I do is that I have (and type) Polish text in the templates, and I accept that it is displayed wrongly (I don't care because I want templates to work and not to look nice). As soon as these templates generate text in a message everything displays correctly. Of course, my Polish templates also set the charset to ISO-8859-2. This works also for Russian. But you are right. Everything would be easier, if TB supported unicode properly. -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.11.02, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: poor Unicode support
Hello Roland, On 3 Jul 2004 at 18:22:30 +0200 GMT [18:22 CEST] you wrote: RB Ritlabs said this a very lon time ago and Ritlabs also had said RB that in version 2 it is included, but it wasn't!!! The last time Stefan said it was 20 February. But right now imap seems to have priority. -- Cheers, Andre Geh nicht nur die glatten Strassen: geh Wege, die vor Dir noch niemand ging, damit Du Spuren hinterlässt,und nicht nur Staub. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: write Central European characters in templates
Hi Cyrille, on Saturday, July 3, 2004 at 19:05 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Unicode is also for me very urgent, because I cannot write Polish characters in the addressbooks and in all templates and quick templates! You can!!! My templates generate Polish text with plenty of beautiful , ,,,...etc. I think that you have Polish Windows and I have German!!! I suppose that the default codepage of your system is 'Western'. ... I use ISO-8859-2 for all my Polish messages! But I cannot write in the addressbooks names with Polish character, I get for example czesc from the templates without Polish characters, i tak dalej! But you are right. Everything would be easier, if TB supported unicode properly. I a program is also sold in such countries, it should be! -- Best regards, Roland PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 (DH/DSS) I use The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: write Central European characters in templates
Hello Roland, Saturday, July 3, 2004, 7:38:25 PM, you wrote: I cannot write Polish characters in the addressbooks and in all templates and quick templates! You can!!! My templates generate Polish text with plenty of beautiful , ,,,...etc. I think that you have Polish Windows and I have German!!! No! My Windows is English and the default codepage of my system is 'Western'. I do not see then why TB should behave differently in your case. How do you input the Polish text? Do you manage to type Polish in other applications? -- Pozdrawiam serdecznie, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.11.02, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Table formatting
Hello Thomas, Saturday, July 3, 2004, 6:59:19 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): I couldn't find an option for that either. Thanks. It's no serious problem for me. However, I think it's somewhat restricting for people who would like to use this feature in their emails. -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Horrid animals (was: Re: Problem setting up a filter for not addressed to me)
Hallo Thomas, On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 23:30:24 +0700GMT (3-7-2004, 18:30 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO Of course I'm human, otherwise I wouldn't be as daft to keep budgies RO and bunnies, wouldn't I? TF I always thought they were electronic, like tamagochis, you know. Okay, here's my bunnies: http://www.krakeel.cistron.nl/DSCF4605.JPG and here's one of my budgies: http://www.krakeel.cistron.nl/DSCF4607.JPG The budgie is definitely not okay. Normally I can't catch them with my bare hands. To avoid heavy trouting I'll take this to tbot. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POP3 then IMAP and back to POP3?
Hello, MG If I change an account to IMAP and it's not yet fully configured at MG the ISP end will it damage anything? I tried this at one point, trying to isolate a problem. I have three accounts. I was able to switch two of them back without any problems. The third one switched back but I now have to enter a password for it every time I start TB. It's a real pain and no one here knew how to fix it. So, from my experience, I wouldn't try it with working accounts if I were you. -- Jack Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple email addresses for one person in address book?
Hi, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 11:15:04 AM, you wrote: S if one of my friends in address book has 2 or 3 email addresses and i S want thebat to send all his/her addresses when i select this person as S recipient, what should i do? You could check the automatically add the secondary addresses to BCC field on the Other tab of the address book, address definition dialog. That will put the other addresses also in the header, in the BCC field though. sincerely, Marije -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POP3 then IMAP and back to POP3?
Jack, [J] wrote: I tried this at one point, trying to isolate a problem. I have three accounts. I was able to switch two of them back without any problems. The third one switched back but I now have to enter a password for it every time I start TB. It's a real pain and no one here knew how to fix it. So, from my experience, I wouldn't try it with working accounts if I were you. I see you're using v1.62. Is that the version you're referring to? v2 is different. IMAP is completely redone and that sort of switching is no longer possible. -- -=[ :Allie: ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.12 Beta/5 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgpJn7JGKVoQg.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Table formatting
Sunday, July 4, 2004, 4:19:03 AM, Kevin wrote: How can one change either the color of the table borders or the style (a single line instead of a double line). KA you'll have to import something you created with another application KA (i.e. Excel, Word, etc.) Ouch! That could be adding fuel to the fire. I do not recommend using Office to create HTML. Unfortunately I don't seem to have a help file present(!), but if there is a way of getting to the HTML source then it would be relatively straightforward modify the opening TABLE tag. TABLE style=border:solid red That said, I cannot see how to get at the HTML source. -- Cheers, Allister Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Table formatting
Hi Allister Jenks - On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, at 10:16:15 [GMT +1200] (which was 3:16 PM where I live) you wrote: Sunday, July 4, 2004, 4:19:03 AM, Kevin wrote: How can one change either the color of the table borders or the style (a single line instead of a double line). KA you'll have to import something you created with another application KA (i.e. Excel, Word, etc.) Ouch! That could be adding fuel to the fire. I do not recommend using Office to create HTML. snip The original poster was working with HTML anyway. At that point there is no harm using an external application to copy a table in-line. Tens of millions of people use it this way (including myself) without difficulty. What exactly is your consern? -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgptPnktbz4Yr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:19:55 PM, subscriber2list wrote: s I s liked Greg's description of how-to and thought it a great function. s He didn't chime in when I asked the initial question, so either he s is/wa very busy and didn't see it or thought Hey, I don't want to s rehash it. I do know they changed the header name at some point in time. Is there a Reply-To. If yes, then give that a try. If you replying to a message way down in a thread, you should see a whole bunch of message IDs. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello subscriber2list, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 2:19:55 PM, subscriber2list wrote: s I too am perfectly happy (within reason, that is s In time I will more than likely take the plunge, but I'm wondering s how does RIT price all these upgrades? What I mean is ... every time s there is a new release, does one have to pay for the upgrade? NO!!! Obviously I assume you have paid for a V2 license. Download and simply install over older version. You will probably see the header change to Follow-up. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Follow-up header (was: Common courtesy on threading!)
Hello Terry, Wednesday, June 30, 2004, 1:30:26 PM, Terry G. Munson wrote: TGM I think follow up would be references in version 2.00. I think you are correct, so my earlier post was incorrect. Whatever! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Hello Mary, Friday, July 2, 2004, 6:40:15 PM, Mary Bull wrote: MB Then Greg Strong posted this solution. And he felt so strongly about MB it that he sent it to tbudl and tbbeta also. (I know that because I'm MB subscribed to both those lists, also.) I did because I do feel strongly about it (pun intended). :-) I do use threading and don't read all messages. Cntrl+Shft+M comes in very handy, but is only good when people maintain conversation which relates to original subject. If conversation changes, then I might mark messages read that I may have wanted to read, but didn't know it. Hope that makes sense! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising
admin, Friday, July 2, 2004, 12:50:40 AM, you wrote: aacu I really need some practical advice on this whole aacu business of synchronising two copies of The Bat! It may not be what you need, but I just use the backup tool. When I am going to travel, I just backup the main computer and then restore on the laptop, reversing the process when I return. That way I have all received and sent mail current on whatever machine I will be using. -- Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POP3 then IMAP and back to POP3?
Hello, I tried this at one point, trying to isolate a problem. I have three AM I see you're using v1.62. Is that the version you're referring to? v2 AM is different. IMAP is completely redone and that sort of switching is AM no longer possible. Yes, I was speaking of v1.62. -- Jack Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Table formatting
Sunday, July 4, 2004, 10:33:11 AM, Kevin wrote:
KA The original poster was working with HTML anyway. At that point there
KA is no harm using an external application to copy a table in-line. Tens
KA of millions of people use it this way (including myself) without
KA difficulty.
KA What exactly is your consern?
OK, I'm being a bit of a purist, but I feel in good company considering
the extensive anti-HTML email threads of times gone by.
I just think this:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;
HTML
HEAD
META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=UTF-8
TITLETitle/TITLE
STYLE type=text/cssTABLE{border-collapse:collapse} TD{border:1px
solid;padding:1em;width:50%}/STYLE
/HEAD
BODY
TABLE
TRTDCell 1/TDTDCell 2/TD/TR
TRTDCell 3/TDTDCell 4/TD/TR
/TABLE
/BODY/HTML
is better than this:
HTML
HEAD
META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=windows-1252
META NAME=Generator CONTENT=Microsoft Word 97
TITLECell 1/TITLE
/HEAD
BODY
TABLE BORDER CELLSPACING=1 CELLPADDING=7 WIDTH=568
TRTD WIDTH=50% VALIGN=TOP
FONT SIZE=2PCell 1/FONT/TD
TD WIDTH=50% VALIGN=TOP
FONT SIZE=2PCell 2/FONT/TD
/TR
TRTD WIDTH=50% VALIGN=TOP
FONT SIZE=2PCell 3/FONT/TD
TD WIDTH=50% VALIGN=TOP
FONT SIZE=2PCell 4/FONT/TD
/TR
/TABLE
FONT SIZE=2/FONT/BODY
/HTML
The former was hand coded by me and validates 100% (and that's against
the Strict DTD). The latter was created in Word by starting a brand new
document, creating a 2 x 2 table and entering the cell contents. I then
immediately saved as HTML. Aside from taking an extra 100 bytes or so,
it has 2 types of error when validated and specifies a Windows character
set depite only containing 7 standard ASCII characters in its output.
Oh, and those errors are against the transitional DTD - which is far
more relaxed. Anyone using FONT tags today should be taken out into the
woods and sh(...own the correct way).
And yes, I know the two pages look different, but with less code I
solved the original poster's problem and if one were fussy about the
width then a simple ;width:568px added to the TABLE style would fix
the only fundamental difference (actually, *I* think mine looks better
anyway).
That's my concern.
--
Cheers,
Allister
Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Corrupt address book
Hello rich, On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 22:05:01 -0400 GMT (04/07/2004, 09:05 +0700 GMT), rich gregory wrote: rg I thought I should restore a recently backed-up copy of account.adr to rg the production unit (thinking that is where the address book is) but I rg cannot find account.adr anywhere on the hard drive. Try *.abd. The default address book is TheBat.ABD and additional address books will be called NameOfYourAB.abd. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Follow a few paces behind someone, spraying everything they touch with a can of Lysol. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test using References (Follow up ) ... Changing the Subject Field Verbiage
Hello Greg! On Saturday, July 03, 2004, 10:18 PM, you wrote: MB Then Greg Strong posted this solution. And he felt so strongly about MB it ,,, GS I did because I do feel strongly about it (pun intended). :-) ... Confession: the pun was at first unconscious on my part, Greg--I wouldn't have intentionally made a play on your name--but I spotted it the minute I'd sent the post. Thought the best thing was to let it ride. I'm so glad you didn't take offence. :) GS ...I do use threading and don't read all messages. Cntrl+Shft+M GS comes in very handy, but is only good when people maintain GS conversation which relates to original subject. ... Well, I'm trying, but sometimes it's hard. For instance, it was important to me to respond to your comment about the pun. But that doesn't relate to the subject. Yet, the main part of what I wanted to say, although it's the shorter part in words, is subject-relevant. GS ... If conversation changes, then I might mark messages read that GS I may have wanted to read, but didn't know it. Hope that makes GS sense! Yes, it does. But, it would have felt as if I were tearing our exchange of ideas apart, making what I said back to you stiff and stilted, and additionally, requiring background explanation, if I had sent a new thread about my accidental pun, and responded only to your last two or three sentences on this thread. As I said earlier, I think the different styles of using threading (or, as in my case, no threading) require patience and much practice in the art of compromise. But, thanks to you, I believe I have the mechanics of changing the thread when I think a change would benefit those posting to it (including myself!) down pat. That is, I believe the easy, quick mechanical routine is almost automatic for me now. CCing to tbot, because here I feel equally challenged about deciding how far off topic I may be straying in this reply. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
