Anti Virus S/W
Hello Group Apologies if this is way off topic for this group but Norton Anti Virus (AKA as Over Bearing Net Nanny, per Marck) is driving me mad, it is now putting up a dialog every ten second telling me my A/V protection is turned off, which it isn't. I have a paid for copy of F-Prot but it doesn't check email which I feel is quite important nowadays. Has anybody any recommendations for an effective A/V product that will work unobtrusively in the background and check my incoming email? I doubt I can repair Norton so I am in for a re-install but I'd like to find a decent A/V app first. Many thanks. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti Virus S/W
Hi Jeff, On Friday, April 01, 2005, at 2:05:22 AM PST, you wrote: Has anybody any recommendations for an effective A/V product that will work unobtrusively in the background and check my incoming email? I'm always happy to recommend NOD32. It's fast, accurate, and even on not very powerful machines, it's very resource friendly. I've used it for almost four years now, and it has always been very stable and trouble free. It also scans incoming POP3 without any special setup. If you're interested, here's the URL: http://www.nod32.com/ -- Melissa PGP public keys: http://www.kuviahunnihautik.tk/ TB! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 pgpow1o6Sz6z0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti Virus S/W
Hello Melissa, Friday, April 1, 2005, 12:14:15 PM, you wrote: MR I'm always happy to recommend NOD32. It's fast, accurate, and even on MR not very powerful machines, it's very resource friendly. I've used it MR for almost four years now, and it has always been very stable and MR trouble free. It also scans incoming POP3 without any special setup. MR If you're interested, here's the URL: MR http://www.nod32.com/ Agreed! -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti Virus S/W
Hello Mark, MR http://www.nod32.com/ Agreed! Yes, agreed here too. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti Virus S/W
MAU [M] wrote, snipped a bit MR http://www.nod32.com/ Agreed! Yes, agreed here too. I'll throw my vote in there too. Although it is recommended that anyone not use more than one AV solution due to potential conflicts, I also use AVG 7 Pro along side nod32 and they co-exist very nicely on my machine. Never had a problem with them. AVG has a plugin for email detection where nod32 does not need one. So I guess I'm actually casting two votes here. :) -- Regards, Ron Secord Using TB! 3.0.9.10 Return Under Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti Virus S/W
Hallo Jeff, On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:05:22 +0100GMT (1-4-2005, 12:05 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JG I have a paid for copy of F-Prot but it doesn't check email which I JG feel is quite important nowadays. IIRC F-Prot had a commandline interface, so you should be able to create a filter that extracts the attachment, make F-Prot scan it and afterwards delete it. Should be (one of) your first filter(s), make it a common filter, so you'd need just one. Don't forget to set the 'continue processing with other filters' option. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Babylon Project was our last, best hope for peace. It failed. The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpPndumJTZva.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti Virus S/W
Hi On Friday 1 April 2005 at 11:53:53 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ron Secord wrote: I also use AVG 7 Pro along side nod32 and they co-exist very nicely on my machine. Never had a problem with them. AVG has a plugin for email detection where nod32 does not need one. So I guess I'm actually casting two votes here. :) Never tried nod32 but since I switched to AVG7 when Pc-Cillin 2000 stopped working I find my machine is much slower; almost unuseable when AVG is doing a system scan. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Re: Anti Virus S/W
Hello Jeff Gaines everyone else, on 01-Apr-2005 at 12:05 you (Jeff Gaines) wrote: Has anybody any recommendations for an effective A/V product that will work unobtrusively in the background and check my incoming email? Question is - why do you want to check incoming mail? Isn't it enough if a malicious attachment is caught once you accidentally try to save/run it? The filesystem realtime protection will catch it. Remember, we're using TheBat (and not that other program where its enough to look at a message to get infected by a virus). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research reports say America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you make. -- Response to Debbi Fields' idea of starting Mrs. Fields' Cookies. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti Virus S/W
Hello MFPA, Friday, April 1, 2005, 3:50:48 PM, you wrote: M Never tried nod32 but since I switched to AVG7 when Pc-Cillin 2000 M stopped working I find my machine is much slower; almost unuseable M when AVG is doing a system scan. I used PC-Cillin too and was happy with it. I still have a Trend-Micro product that came along with Fix-It utilities, running as an extra viruscatcher. But Nod32 never missed one and it even takes less resources than PC-Cillin. You can try out Nod32 for free and see if it suits you... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changes to the TB Lists
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Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hello Leif Gregory everyone else, on 01-Apr-2005 at 17:19 you (Leif Gregory) wrote: From today forward ...naaahhh... :-) :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The female octopus' vagina is in her nose. If she is not ready for mating when approached by a male, she may bite off his penis (he has seven others) and swim away with it. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hello, From today forward, to remain a subscriber to our realm of goodness on the TB lists, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. Do you accept Eurocard-Mastercard ? -- Regards, Francismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! 3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP rev 2600 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hello Leif, Friday, April 1, 2005, 4:19:27 PM, you wrote: Hello all, It's with a heavy heart that we (the moderators) have finally come to a point in our lives where the TB lists have become so successful that it has begun to seriously impact our ability to lead a normal life. In our time as moderators, some of us have lost wives and girlfriends, our children, gone into debt and filed for bankruptcy. I myself was relegated to living in a cardboard box on the corner of Central and Lomas hacking my way into the nearby Starbucks wi-fi network each day so that I might continue my duties as a moderator. It is more than an obsession. It's a calling. A calling to duty which transcends this world and all Earthly possessions. We, the moderators, have devoured the EMA scale. EMA5 is nothing to us. A minor deity in our pitiful universe of self absorption and obsession. No longer are we bound to our mortal bodies, for we are one with the ether, one with the RFCs, one with e-mail. We are The Bat! therefore, we are all that is e-mail. We see all you write, we see all you read. Feed us. Feed us like a spammer would gorge the world on their offal. From today forward, to remain a subscriber to our realm of goodness on the TB lists, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. Yes, this may seem steep. A burden unbearable. But please, remember, that'll buy us a whole boatload of Big Macs with a large fry and a coke. What addy shall i post the I.O.U to -- Best regards, Barry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hello Leif, A reminder of what Leif Gregory typed on: April 1, 2005 at 08:19:27 GMT -0700 Rant LG From today forward, to remain a subscriber to our realm of goodness on LG the TB lists, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. LG Yes, this may seem steep. A burden unbearable. But please, remember, LG that'll buy us a whole boatload of Big Macs with a large fry and a LG coke. H. Verry Interesting! -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hi Leif, on Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:19:27 -0700GMT (01.04.2005, 17:19 +0200GMT here), ^^ you wrote: LG From today forward, to remain a subscriber to our realm of goodness on LG the TB lists, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. Good one. :)) -- Cheers Peter Don't humanize computers. They hate that! Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Anti Virus S/W
Hello Group On Friday, April 1, 2005, 4:14:36 PM, Mark wrote: You can try out Nod32 for free and see if it suits you... Many thanks for all the input :-) I have uninstalled NAV (4 separate apps!) and installed the trial of NOD32. In fact I have installed it four times, the first three times I set 'AMON' to start on boot and the PC crashed each time it started. For the fourth install I didn't enable AMON until after the PC booted and it works fine so far. I will re-enable 'AMON' on boot, it seems to be an important part of the package, and see how it goes. Just need somebody to send me Netsky again to see how effective it is. Thanks again for the input. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Anti Virus S/W
Hello Group On Friday, April 1, 2005, 4:11:27 PM, Alexander wrote: Hello Jeff Gaines everyone else, on 01-Apr-2005 at 12:05 you (Jeff Gaines) wrote: Has anybody any recommendations for an effective A/V product that will work unobtrusively in the background and check my incoming email? Question is - why do you want to check incoming mail? Isn't it enough if a malicious attachment is caught once you accidentally try to save/run it? The filesystem realtime protection will catch it. Remember, we're using TheBat (and not that other program where its enough to look at a message to get infected by a virus). Fair point but it acts as an additional spam trap to some extent, my new email host isn't as effective at catching spam as my old one. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: Changes to the TB Lists)
Hallo Zen, On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:26:02 +0100GMT (1-4-2005, 18:26 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Z What addy shall i post the I.O.U to moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Zen. ' Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Hollywood: A trip through a sewer in a glass bottom boat. The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpr5UirOcp2j.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hi Bats, On Friday, April 01, 2005 at 10:19:27 AM Leaf wrote: LG No longer are LG we bound to our mortal bodies, for we are one with the ether, one with LG the RFCs, one with e-mail. We are The Bat! therefore, we are all that LG is e-mail. We see all you write, we see all you read. Feed us. Feed us LG like a spammer would gorge the world on their offal. :whisper: It's those *special* mushrooms they grow in NMex... -- Regards, Maggie The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. -Anatole France. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: Changes to the TB Lists)
Hello Roelof, Friday, April 1, 2005, 10:07:03 AM, you wrote: R moderator R Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not R just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have R instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Zen. VEG You know what I was going to do for an April Fools joke? I was going to set up an autoresponse for the lists that moderated everyone's messages whether they needed it or not! /VEG Luckily I came to my senses! ;-) -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Charter Member of Couch Potatoes for Physical Fitness. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: Changes to the TB Lists)
Hello Leif Gregory everyone else, on 01-Apr-2005 at 19:12 you (Leif Gregory) wrote: Luckily I came to my senses! ;-) Please feel singled out, Leif. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Plastic Gourd (10 Inch Mix) by Quietman from the 1995 album 'Platipus Volume 2' Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: Changes to the TB Lists)
Hallo Leif, On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:12:34 -0700GMT (1-4-2005, 19:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: R moderator R Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not LG VEG You know what I was going to do for an April Fools joke? I was LG going to set up an autoresponse for the lists that moderated everyone's LG messages whether they needed it or not! /VEG It would have been better to do so only for those replying to your 'changes' thread. -- Groetjes, Roelof Apple (c) Copyright 1767, Sir Isaac Newton The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpKvJCzSk4Au.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt blocking mail import
Hello MikeD, Thursday, March 31, 2005, 10:29:35 AM, you wrote: M3 [...] When I first started having this problem, I not only M3 'un-installed' the add-in, I deleted the all the training M3 data and retrained. That did not stop the problem from M3 reoccurring either. I did this and it worked. I uninstalled the plugin, deleted all BayesIt files, and then downloaded and installed the latest version (not the one that comes with 2.12.00). I didn't realise that there is a different procedure for installing the plugin now, Through Options-Preferences-Protection-Antispam rather than Options-Preferences-Plugins as before. I had to retrain but this was not a problem as I have a fairly large mailbase to work with. It remains to be seen how well it works now but at least it works. Thanks for the help. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.12.00 under Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 (0 days 0:20:35) on Uno AMD Athlon MP pgp key: http://sfrederick.com/keys/ Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: BayesIt blocking mail import
Hello Scott, Friday, April 1, 2005, 1:27:21 PM, you wrote: SF Hello MikeD, SF Thursday, March 31, 2005, 10:29:35 AM, you wrote: M3 [...] When I first started having this problem, I not only M3 'un-installed' the add-in, I deleted the all the training M3 data and retrained. That did not stop the problem from M3 reoccurring either. SF I did this and it worked. I uninstalled the plugin, deleted all SF BayesIt files, and then downloaded and installed the latest SF version (not the one that comes with 2.12.00). SF I didn't realise that there is a different procedure for installing SF the plugin now, Through Options-Preferences-Protection-Antispam SF rather than Options-Preferences-Plugins as before. SF I had to retrain but this was not a problem as I have a fairly SF large mailbase to work with. SF It remains to be seen how well it works now but at least it works. SF Thanks for the help. Hope it works better for you now. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anti Virus S/W
Friday, April 1, 2005, 10:05:22 PM, Jeff wrote: JG Has anybody any recommendations for an effective A/V product that will JG work unobtrusively in the background and check my incoming email? I recommend AVG. The best part is it is free! I've used it for years now with zero issues and it integrates nicely with TB! -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Saturday, April 2, 2005, 3:19:27 AM, Leif wrote: LG From today forward, to remain a subscriber to our realm of goodness on LG the TB lists, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. Note the quoted time and date! Due to the fact that I live on the leading edge of the world, I am now subject to a dastardly fine of $5,000 to listen to the moans and groans of Bat!-dom. But hang on - is not the limit of April Fools midday on the day in question? In which case there are people in more than half of the world's timezones with some serious bills to pay! Global economy? Hah! -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
