Re[3]: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread William Moore
Hello Yuki, Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 11:18:09 PM, you wrote: Hi Yuki YT> they could simply tell everyone that they are beta testers. a bit like Micro$oft customers you mean? -- Best regards, Williammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.52e The in

Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Urke
At Tuesday, May 08, 2001 on 9:30:45 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote: >> I know that in Opera for full refresh you must to press Shift and then >> refresh button on toolbar. DH> Or you clean the cache automatically at shutdown. No, I *never* empty cache from Opera, but from IE to. So I suggest, go to FTP

Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Thomas
Hi Yuki, On Wed, 9 May 2001 07:03:57 +0900GMT (09/05/2001, 06:03 +0800GMT), Yuki Taga wrote: YT>>> From 1.51 to 1.52 is a **minor** version change. T>> I think the Connection Center is a major change. YT> If so, then it should have an appropriate version number. ACK. YT>>> For most users, th

Palm sync so slow?

2001-05-08 Thread Kiyan Azarbar
Out of curiosity, what is it that makes the palmsync with TB so slow? I made a folder called palmsync, to which I copy mail I want to sync. I set it as the default account for mailto, and I set the conduit as Eudora 3.0.3 or higher. Then I sync, and it looks like it's hung forever, it takes almos

Re[2]: Problems with The Bat! 152f

2001-05-08 Thread Maurice Snellen
Peter, Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 1:40:29 PM, you wrote: PP> *hmmm* ~4700 messages over here ... Purge & Compress are usually done PP> on exit :-) ... but not slower than before 1.52f ... maybe your TB! is PP> sad it's only 400 messages to handle? *grin* I'm still at 1.52c, and usually keep TB! run

Re[2]: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Yuki Taga
Wednesday, May 09, 2001, 4:11:45 AM, Nick wrote: NA> Yuki, we are not talking about the FTP site... on that issue I agree with NA> you... but TB! 1.52f is what is on the main Web page for people who want NA> to either try or purchase the Program. Yesterday, throughout the day the NA> version numb

Re[4]: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Yuki Taga
Wednesday, May 09, 2001, 1:34:28 AM, IronHand wrote: I> Just curious: what does '' mean? It means 'grin'. >> Software construction is a trial and error process. I> There is nothing like finished program, so You want us think, that every I> program is a trial verion? Cute! ;))) Few programs o

Re[2]: 1.52 Message centre/Connection Centre problems

2001-05-08 Thread Maurice Snellen
Jannik, Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 8:48:49 AM, you wrote: JL> In my opinion the CC is a significant improvement to TB. I found the JL> old progress bar to be next to useless. I would have to agree on this. Because I manage a large number of administrative accounts for a couple of maildomains, I hav

Re[2]: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Yuki Taga
Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 10:20:33 PM, Thomas wrote: T> Hello Yuki, T> On Tue, 8 May 2001 21:27:23 +0900 GMT (08/05/2001, 20:27 +0800 GMT), T> Yuki Taga wrote: YT>> From 1.51 to 1.52 is a **minor** version change. T> I think the Connection Center is a major change. If so, then it should have an

Re[2]: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread IronHand
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: >> There is nothing like finished program, so You want us think, that every >> program is a trial verion? Cute! ;))) > He is kinda right though, every program that's shipped out has > minor or major bugs that lurk in the dark just waiti

Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Dierk Haasis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Nick! On Tuesday, May 08, 2001 at 9:11:45 PM you wrote: > TBBETA Members were supposed to wait for official announcements, but I > haven't seen an "Official" announcement come through in months... RITLabs > must not be using that Mailing List

Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Dierk Haasis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Urke! On Tuesday, May 08, 2001 at 4:39:15 PM you wrote: > I know that in Opera for full refresh you must to press Shift and then > refresh button on toolbar. Or you clean the cache automatically at shutdown. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys avail

Re: Deleting message.html

2001-05-08 Thread Urke
At Tuesday, May 08, 2001 on 6:51:52 PM, Tim Musson wrote: TM> I seem to recall discussions on deleting the html part of an incoming TM> message (message.html) and leaving the rest of it intact. I can do TM> this manually, but can't seem to figure out how to do it in the TM> filters. I did try t

Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Nick Andriash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 8, 2001, at 5:27:23 AM, Yuki Taga wrote: > The RIT people are apparently putting them all on the FTP site, which is > certainly okay, but most people have no business downloading them, IMHO. Yuki, we are not talking about the FTP site... on t

Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Urke
At Tuesday, May 08, 2001 on 4:05:45 PM, Thomas wrote: T> I think you have to hold the shift key or crtl key or something while T> clicking on the Refresh button to get a "real" refresh. I know that in Opera for full refresh you must to press Shift and then refresh button on toolbar. In IE also.

Re: Deleting message.html

2001-05-08 Thread Silviu Cojocaru
Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 7:51:52 PM, Tim Musson wrote: > Hey baters, > I seem to recall discussions on deleting the html part of an incoming > message (message.html) and leaving the rest of it intact. I can do > this manually, but can't seem to figure out how to do it in the > filters. I did tr

Re: Broken .tbk file

2001-05-08 Thread Silviu Cojocaru
Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 7:13:40 PM, Silviu Cojocaru wrote: > How can I get my messages from a (apparently) broken .tbk file? I hate replying to my own posts but guys forget about this one, the files were OK, I was an idiot :) -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box

Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Silviu Cojocaru
Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 7:34:28 PM, IronHand wrote: > Hello! > As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: > Just curious: what does '' mean? Grin like this: ;) > I can live with minor bugs. I download every version > available, and I can remember only once I was furious about > bug.

Re[2]: 1.52 Message centre/Connection Centre problems

2001-05-08 Thread John Rainer
JL> Hello John, JL> Monday, May 07, 2001, 10:36:13 AM, you wrote: >> I was quite happy with the old progress bar and now it has been >> replaced by something hideously ugly JL> In my opinion the CC is a significant improvement to TB. I found the JL> old progress bar to be next to useless. If yo

Deleting message.html

2001-05-08 Thread Tim Musson
Hey baters, I seem to recall discussions on deleting the html part of an incoming message (message.html) and leaving the rest of it intact. I can do this manually, but can't seem to figure out how to do it in the filters. I did try to find it in the archive, but had little luck. I subscribe to

Re[3]: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread IronHand
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: > Doubtful, but a lot of users have probably flipped. Just curious: what does '' mean? > probably wait myself for at least version 1.6 -- and even that wouldn't > have a version number that would *make* me download it. ^_^ I can l

Re: Best way to upgrade versions?

2001-05-08 Thread Dierk Haasis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello A! On Tuesday, May 08, 2001 at 2:46:09 PM you wrote: SC>> when I will execute the new version it will display SC>> *unregistered* in Help->About ? No, the registration will be left alone (that's what I meant, everything you changed, will be k

Losing VCF association

2001-05-08 Thread Dierk Haasis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL Members! Two times I asked why VCF files regularly lose their icon. Well, it happened again. The solution for me: I delete the VCF association part in the registry, start TB! anew, get asked if I want VCF associated with TB!, a

Broken .tbk file

2001-05-08 Thread Silviu Cojocaru
How can I get my messages from a (apparently) broken .tbk file? -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives :

Re: Filters don't work

2001-05-08 Thread Peter Meyns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, May 08, 2001 at 10:33 (my local time), Peter Palmreuther presented us with these thoughts about "Filters don't work": PP> ... btw: you can (surely only if you want to!!!) re-configure your ICQ PP> to not using the same hotkeys/shortcuts a

Auto-Format

2001-05-08 Thread Pete P
Hello TBUDL! I wonder if there's any way to turn auto-format automatically off when mailing/replying to a certain message-list? It seems that I *never* remember to press shift+ctrl+F until I hit Enter for the first time... -- Best regards, Pete Using The Bat! v1.52e __

Re: Birthday reminder

2001-05-08 Thread Pete P
Hello Marek, Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 12:23:23 AM, you wrote: MM> Hello all, MM> Monday, May 07, 2001, Pete P wrote: >> Okay, I give up... where's the birthday reminder? MM> Display reminder is displayed, if one (or more) cantacts have same date MM> stored in "Birthday" field in Personal tab wi

Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Silviu Cojocaru
Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 4:49:11 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: > this is a pretty old thread by now I suppose, but yes, I did > refresh my browser. I went back again this morning, refreshed > and still got the old page. Only by deleting all my temporary > internet files and then visiting did I get th

Re: Best way to upgrade versions?

2001-05-08 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jakob, On 08 May 2001 at 15:58:19 +0200 (which was 14:58 where I live) Jakob Breivik Grimstveit wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: >> Yes. This may not hold for the long-awaited (and almost mythical) V2, >> which is penned in as

Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Thomas
Hello Dwight, On Tue, 8 May 2001 08:49:11 -0500 GMT (08/05/2001, 21:49 +0800 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC> this is a pretty old thread by now I suppose, but yes, I did refresh DAC> my browser. I went back again this morning, refreshed and still got DAC> the old page. Only by deleting all m

Re: Best way to upgrade versions?

2001-05-08 Thread Jakob Breivik Grimstveit
From: "Marck D. Pearlstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 2:49 PM > Yes. This may not hold for the long-awaited (and almost mythical) V2, > which is penned in as a purchasable upgrade - very likely with > concessions for more recent purchasers. The question is - how recent doe

Re[3]: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Monday, May 07, 2001, 3:31:36 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: Nick>> We must be looking at two different pages, because when I Nick>> access that URL I see v1.52e being offered? Anyone else see Nick>> v1.51 as Dwight does? > Maybe Dwight didn't refresh the page. this is a pretty old thread by no

Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Thomas
Hello Yuki, On Tue, 8 May 2001 21:27:23 +0900 GMT (08/05/2001, 20:27 +0800 GMT), Yuki Taga wrote: YT> From 1.51 to 1.52 is a **minor** version change. I think the Connection Center is a major change. YT> For most users, there is simply no justification in downloading it YT> and installing it -

Re: Best way to upgrade versions?

2001-05-08 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Silviu, On 08 May 2001 at 15:37:21 +0300 (which was 13:37 where I live) Silviu Cojocaru wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: >> Depends: If you use official versions only, you get an Installer, >> which overwrites certain files. It

Re: Best way to upgrade versions?

2001-05-08 Thread A Curtis Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 8 May 2001 15:37:21 +0300, Silviu graced us with these comments: SC> Ok, this confuses me. SC> You say that if I have a licensed 1.49 version (be it Personal), SC> and I get the (say) 1.52c file from the site and install it... SC> when I wil

Re: Best way to upgrade versions?

2001-05-08 Thread Silviu Cojocaru
Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 3:08:07 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote: > Hello Kiyan! > On Tuesday, May 08, 2001 at 1:52:30 PM you wrote: >> Does TB detect another version and install overtop of it? > Depends: If you use official versions only, you get an Installer, > which overwrites certain files. It will

Re[2]: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Yuki Taga
Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 9:10:04 PM, Silviu wrote: SC> What in the world is going on ?! Have the RIT guys flipped ?! Doubtful, but a lot of users have probably flipped. >From 1.51 to 1.52 is a **minor** version change. For most users, there is simply no justification in downloading it and inst

Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Silviu Cojocaru
Monday, May 07, 2001, 10:23:48 PM, Shauna Scott wrote: DAC>> On Monday, May 07, 2001, 1:29:36 PM, Nick Andriash wrote: >>> I notice the Web site already indicates TB! v1.52e as the official >>> version available, but the "What's New" file only reports what is >>> new up to v1.52c? >>> Anyone k

Re: Best way to upgrade versions?

2001-05-08 Thread Dierk Haasis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Kiyan! On Tuesday, May 08, 2001 at 1:52:30 PM you wrote: > Does TB detect another version and install overtop of it? Depends: If you use official versions only, you get an Installer, which overwrites certain files. It will leave your options

Re: 1.52 Message centre/Connection Centre problems

2001-05-08 Thread Dierk Haasis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jan! On Tuesday, May 08, 2001 at 1:34:02 PM you wrote: > How does one access the CC? Options/Show Connection Centre/Show always - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52f Windows

Best way to upgrade versions?

2001-05-08 Thread Kiyan Azarbar
Hello peeps, just wanted to know what the best way to upgrade TB versions was. I just installed 1.52 c because I did a fresh OS install and restored my mail from a backup file (.tbk)... should I do the same thing when installing a new version (i.e. backup, wipe out the bat, reinstall, restore?) Se

Re[2]: Edit received messages

2001-05-08 Thread Jan Rifkinson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, On Monday, May 07, 2001 11:26:09 [ +0800 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Edit received messages': Thomas> I often want to edit the subject line, because I keep getting messages Thomas> from airfreight offices saying "new a

Re: Problems with The Bat! 152f

2001-05-08 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello John, On Tuesday, May 08, 2001 at 1:13:38 PM you wrote: JS> Hello TBUDL, JS> First of all TB seems not to be logging connections anymore. I have JS> no new entries since I was useing 1.51. not confirmed over here ... 08.05.2001, 13:18:29: FETCH - received message from [EMAIL PROTEC

Re[2]: 1.52 Message centre/Connection Centre problems

2001-05-08 Thread Jan Rifkinson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jannik, On Tuesday, May 08, 2001 08:48:49 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to '1.52 Message centre/Connection Centre problems': Jannik> In my opinion the CC is a significant improvement to TB. I found the Jannik> old progress b

Problems with The Bat! 152f

2001-05-08 Thread John Seymour
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL, First of all TB seems not to be logging connections anymore. I have no new entries since I was useing 1.51. Also changing between groups in the address book hangs for about 5 seconds, aside from loseing all my entries and templat

Re: POP before SMTP trouble and orher questions

2001-05-08 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Urke, On Mon, 7 May 2001 at 20:52:42 GMT +0200 (which was 08/05/2001 1:52 GMT +0700 my Local Time) "Urke"=[U] wrote to TBUDL : U> First, when I send messages to TBUDL and TBTECH trough yahoo SMTP, U> and combined check mailbox on Yahoo mail, Bat only send messages, but U> not receive ne

Re[2]:  Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Tuesday, May 08, 2001, David van Zuijlekom wrote: DAC>>> At http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html they are back to DAC>>> offering 1.51 again. NA>> We must be looking at two different pages, because when I access that URL NA>> I see v1.52e being offered? Anyone else see v1.51 a

Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious

2001-05-08 Thread David van Zuijlekom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Nick, On Monday, May 07, 2001 at 12:55:00 -0700, Nick Andriash [NA] wrote concerning 'Versions Coming Fast & Furious': DAC>> At http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html they are back to DAC>> offering 1.51 again. NA> We must be looking at

Re: Can receive, but can't send email

2001-05-08 Thread Thomas
Hi Warren, On Tue, 08 May 2001 04:48:01 -0400GMT (08/05/2001, 16:48 +0800GMT), Warren W. Weiss wrote: WWW> What difference does it make to The Bat! *how* I connect?! None. But it may make a difference to your SMTP server. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A

Can receive, but can't send email

2001-05-08 Thread Warren W. Weiss
I am having a problem sending email. I normally connect via a LAN to the Internet. However, I am now connecting via a dialup connection and can receive email, but cannot send. I am getting the error "Cannot connect to server" in the log. What difference does it make to The Bat! *how* I connect

Re: Filters don't work

2001-05-08 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Peter, On Monday, May 07, 2001 at 10:39:46 PM you wrote: HS>> Well, I create filters i.e. by pressing strg-shift-f in the message HS>> editor, PM> Hi Hanspeter, PM> that's interesting. This shortcut starts my ICQ message center... *lol* So PM> I won't be any help here I guess. *S* It is

Re: POP before SMTP trouble and orher questions

2001-05-08 Thread Urke
At Tuesday, May 08, 2001 on 5:38:58 AM, Thomas wrote: T> If "POP before SMTP" is checked, and "combined delivery"- or a POP T> session is active -, then the SMTP session should wait until the POP T> session is finished. Well, this is to bad :( Now I must first to send mails, and trough some time