Re: IMAP over SSL?

2002-08-12 Thread Phil Stoneman
PS>> Can anyone else confirm/deny that IMAP4 in The Bat 1.61 will not use PS>> SSL, no matter what you set the account settings to? > Yes, I can confirm. > When set up to use IMAP The Bat! always uses 'normal' / 'plain' IMAP > w/o any SSL. Thanks for that :) Is this a bug-type problem, or simpl

Re: IMAP over SSL?

2002-08-12 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Phil, On Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at 8:24:43 AM you [PS] wrote (at least in part): PS> Can anyone else confirm/deny that IMAP4 in The Bat 1.61 will not use PS> SSL, no matter what you set the account settings to? Yes, I can confirm. When set up to use IMAP The Bat! always uses 'normal' /

Re[3]: forward filter / more info

2002-08-12 Thread Ochrid
Hello Ochrid, Tuesday, August 13, 2002, 8:49:04 AM, you wrote: O> Hello Roelof, O> Tuesday, August 13, 2002, 12:34:11 AM, you wrote: RO>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:41:29 +0200GMT (12-8-02, 19:41 +0200GMT, where RO>> I live), you wrote: O>>> I tried to make a forwarding filter, but cannot get it

Re: anti-spam suggestions

2002-08-12 Thread Gerard
ON Monday, August 12, 2002, 11:15:04 PM, you wrote: a> Hi, I'm new to the list, so be gentle ;) a> Would it be at all possible to have a Mailwasher type anti-virus tool a> in The Bat! ? (www.mailwasher.net) a> Secondly, are there any plans to implement Cloudmark's SpamNet ? a> (www.cloudmark.co

Re[2]: forward filter does not do its job

2002-08-12 Thread Ochrid
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, August 13, 2002, 12:34:11 AM, you wrote: RO> On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:41:29 +0200GMT (12-8-02, 19:41 +0200GMT, where RO> I live), you wrote: O>> I tried to make a forwarding filter, but cannot get it right. O>> I had a filter directing mails (a digest) to a particular O>>

Re: what is pgp? and how easy is it to use?

2002-08-12 Thread Sudip Pokhrel
Hi ~John, On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 23:24:31 -0500 GMT (Aug 13, 10:09 my local time), you [~] wrote: ~> Could someone tell me what the benefits are of using PGP and what ~> it is and how easy is it to setup? I really don't have a clue what ~> its all about. thanks! PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) is a publ

IMAP over SSL?

2002-08-12 Thread Phil Stoneman
I posted a few days ago, but didn't hear anything, so am posting again. Can anyone else confirm/deny that IMAP4 in The Bat 1.61 will not use SSL, no matter what you set the account settings to? I've installed the relevant certificate; TB doesn't seem to even try to initiate SSL. -- Phil Stonema

Re: what is pgp? and how easy is it to use?

2002-08-12 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello ~John! On Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at 6:24:31 AM you wrote: >Could someone tell me what the benefits are of using PGP and what >it is and how easy is it to setup? I really don't have a clue what >its all about. thanks! 1. PGP is a programme for signing and encrypting e-mail an

Threads not opening completely

2002-08-12 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello TBUDL Members! As some of you may remember, I found a small cosmetic bug some months ago about threads not opening completely. The picture for it is still on http://software.write4u.de/The_Bat_/the_bat_.html. It seems I've found a corollary: In the last few days I had the pro

Re: anti-spam suggestions

2002-08-12 Thread William Moore
Hello Lynn Thank you for your email dated Tuesday, August 13, 2002, 5:28:28 AM, in which you wrote: LT> I tried it for a while, too, but have found that TB LT> filtering is more effective As an aside, a female friend was receiving unwanted emails from an admirer - not typical spam. I suggest

what is pgp? and how easy is it to use?

2002-08-12 Thread ~John
Hey Group, Could someone tell me what the benefits are of using PGP and what it is and how easy is it to setup? I really don't have a clue what its all about. thanks! -- Regards, ~John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61

Re[2]: anti-spam suggestions

2002-08-12 Thread Lynn Turriff
Monday, August 12, 2002, 9:03:31 PM, you wrote: B> FWIW, Mailwasher is not an AV program. It's like TB's B> Mail Dispatcher on steroids. I gave up using it because B> its bounce feature (which seems to make it attractive) B> does nothing to reduce spam. I tried it for a while, too, but have fo

Re[2]: anti-spam suggestions

2002-08-12 Thread ~John
Hello Blarp, Monday, August 12, 2002, 11:03:31 PM, you wrote: B> Hi Roelof, RO>> I'm not all that familiar with Mailwasher, but there are several RO>> anti-virus plug-ins for TB. What AV-program do you use? B> FWIW, Mailwasher is not an AV program. It's like TB's Mail Dispatcher B> on steroids

Re: Fw: [SAtalk] Another one for the RATWARE check?

2002-08-12 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Matt, On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 20:41:30 -0700 GMT (13/08/02, 10:41 +0700 GMT), Matt Thoene wrote: MT> Wow, is there a full moon or something? I've posted a few messages to MT> various lists this week and have seen just brutal responses. My anger was not directed at you, but at people who make

Re: anti-spam suggestions

2002-08-12 Thread Blarp
Hi Roelof, RO> I'm not all that familiar with Mailwasher, but there are several RO> anti-virus plug-ins for TB. What AV-program do you use? FWIW, Mailwasher is not an AV program. It's like TB's Mail Dispatcher on steroids. I gave up using it because its bounce feature (which seems to make it att

Re: Fw: [SAtalk] Another one for the RATWARE check?

2002-08-12 Thread Matt Thoene
On Monday, August 12, 2002 @ 7:27:17 PM [-0700], Thomas F. wrote: > On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:30:56 -0700 GMT (13/08/02, 05:30 +0700 GMT), > Matt Thoene wrote: MT>> Caught this thread on spamassassin. The Bat will thankfully NOT be MT>> labeled as "ratware". > How professional are these people? H

Re: Re[3]: "Sorting Office"

2002-08-12 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 21:17, Pete Milne wrote: > > MT> http://.thompsonmike.co.uk/ > > Michael, is '' something new (your URL)?? ;O) Anything before the domain name can be whatever he wants, providing he provides a valid protocol such as https, http, ftp, gopher, etc etc. But in this

Re: Fw: [SAtalk] Another one for the RATWARE check?

2002-08-12 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 21:27, Thomas F. wrote: > > MT> Caught this thread on spamassassin. The Bat will thankfully NOT be > MT> labeled as "ratware". > > How professional are these people? How much power (in which ever way) > do they have? If he has anything to do with spamassasin, or any numbe

Re: OT: Double Negative (was: "Sorting Office")

2002-08-12 Thread Lynn Turriff
Monday, August 12, 2002, 7:16:05 PM, you wrote: TF> What I am saying is that the double negative should be avoided in TF> English, as otherwise nobody won't understand nothing! ;-) That's about what they told me when I was in school .. but they put it considerably more strongly than that :-)

Copy folders

2002-08-12 Thread Adam
I wish to copy a pile of folders to another account. Is there some way to really do this? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Fw: [SAtalk] Another one for the RATWARE check?

2002-08-12 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Matt, On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:30:56 -0700 GMT (13/08/02, 05:30 +0700 GMT), Matt Thoene wrote: MT> Caught this thread on spamassassin. The Bat will thankfully NOT be MT> labeled as "ratware". How professional are these people? How much power (in which ever way) do they have? MT> Just noti

Re: "Sorting Office"

2002-08-12 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Miguel, On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:47:45 +0200 GMT (12/08/02, 20:47 +0700 GMT), Miguel A. Urech wrote: MAU> Sorry, I just understood the opposite. It seems that everybody did, so it was my fault, really. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bright as Alaska

OT: Double Negative (was: "Sorting Office")

2002-08-12 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Clemens, On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 00:15:25 +0200 GMT (13/08/02, 05:15 +0700 GMT), Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: CGS> Be careful with double negative, for me as a viennese it can mean CGS> something double bad, and not make it okay ... Speaking of double negatives, there is different u

Re[3]: "Sorting Office"

2002-08-12 Thread Pete Milne
Replying to your message of Monday, August 12, 2002, 8:12:21 PM: MT> Best regards, MT> Michael MT> http://.thompsonmike.co.uk/ MT> I am a computer, dumber than any human and smarter than an administrator. Michael, is '' something new (your URL)?? ;O) -- Pete www.milneweb

Re[2]: "Sorting Office"

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Thompson
Hello Allie, On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, at 16:00:21 [GMT -0500] (which was 22:00 in my TimeZone) you wrote: ACM> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ACM> Michael Thompson [MT] wrote:' MT>> While we are on the subject of resizing, this is related, but in MT>> the Losest terms. (!) Why is

Re: The bat for linux?

2002-08-12 Thread Jonathan Angliss
Hi KOMPLOT5, On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 20:44:32 -0300, you wrote: > > If RitLabs are willing to release the source code to me, I would be > > more than happy (in fact, ecstatic would be more about the words) to > > start converting it over to Linux as I do kylix programming (as I > > said, iirc, TB! wa

Re: The bat for linux?

2002-08-12 Thread KOMPLOT5
yeah, but if you think about it, they could make a linux version since delphi 6 code works cool (or at least thats what Borland says) with kylix 2 =) -Original Message- From: Jonathan Angliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:33:47 -050

Re: anti-spam suggestions

2002-08-12 Thread jan rifkinson
Hi alain. At 5:15 PM on Monday, August 12, 2002 you [a] wrote the following about [anti-spam suggestions]: a> [...] Would it be at all possible to have a a> Mailwasher type anti-virus tool in The Bat! ? a> [/...] I take it from your msg that you are also new to The Bat! program. Today I

OT - automated telephone answering

2002-08-12 Thread jan rifkinson
Hello Bat Folk. Someone, not too long ago, mentioned a little piece of freeware that answered the telephone. It was UK site who's biz it is to provide sophisticated, customized automated telephone systems. Can't remember which list, can't find the msg, or URL. Had to replace my HD,

Re: anti-spam suggestions

2002-08-12 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In , Alain [A] wrote:' A> Hi, I'm new to the list, so be gentle ;) :) A> Would it be at all possible to have a Mailwasher type anti-virus A> tool in The Bat! ? (www.mailwasher.net) I don't know. I personally wouldn't, especi

Fw: [SAtalk] Another one for the RATWARE check?

2002-08-12 Thread Matt Thoene
Caught this thread on spamassassin. The Bat will thankfully NOT be labeled as "ratware". -- Matt This is a forwarded message From: Steve Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, August 12, 2002, 1:06:50 PM Subject: [SAtalk] Another one for the RATWARE check? ===8<==

Re: forward filter does not do its job

2002-08-12 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Ochrid, On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:41:29 +0200GMT (12-8-02, 19:41 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: O> I tried to make a forwarding filter, but cannot get it right. O> I had a filter directing mails (a digest) to a particular O> folder. That worked fine. Don't create a new filter, just giv

Re: The Bat! Macro and Solutions Library

2002-08-12 Thread David van Zuijlekom
Hello Allie, On Sunday, August 11, 2002 at 08:21:39 -0500, you wrote concerning 'The Bat! Macro and Solutions Library': ... > I learnt the hard way when I provided the mailto link for my PGP > public key. :( Oh that's probably the reason that I receive spam on my mailinglist-only addresses and e

Re: anti-spam suggestions

2002-08-12 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo alain, On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 23:15:04 +0200GMT (12-8-02, 23:15 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: a> Hi, I'm new to the list, Welcome. a> so be gentle ;) Take care, anything you'll say *will* be used against you. ;-) a> Would it be at all possible to have a Mailwasher type anti-virus a>

Re: "Sorting Office"

2002-08-12 Thread Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer
Hello Thomas, Monday, August 12, 2002, 8:06:52 AM, Thomas F. wrote: > 1.) I *don't* see a reason why it is *not* re-sizeable. > Rephrasing this without using a double negative makes it: "It should > be re-sizeable". I have seen, also from St.Music's replies, that this > double-negative was unde

Re: asian fonts the 100ths :)

2002-08-12 Thread Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer
Hello Thomas, Monday, August 12, 2002, 8:10:27 AM, Thomas F. wrote: CGS>> well, I somehow can't belive that, cause it works in other CGS>> applications too. I think, I just have to live without Asian Font CGS>> support in TheBat, as it is way to stupid to do it :( > I can display messages in T

Re[2]: "Sorting Office"

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Thompson
Hello Allie, On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, at 05:17:57 [GMT -0500] (which was 11:17 in my TimeZone) you wrote: While we are on the subject of resizing, this is related, but in the Losest terms. (!) Why is it that windows with two or more scroll windows all move when you use a scroll button on the Mous

forward filter does not do its job

2002-08-12 Thread Ochrid
Hello all, I tried to make a forwarding filter, but cannot get it right. This is what I did: I had a filter directing mails (a digest) to a particular folder. That worked fine. Then I wanted to redirect the incoming digest to another account so that a sig delimiter problem would be solved. (

Re: The bat for linux?

2002-08-12 Thread Urban Ek
Monday, August 12, 2002, Matt Thoene wrote: > You *do* have to pay > for it which goes against the whole open source philosophy I replied to this on on TBOT under the subject "Open Source". -- Urban Ek, happily swinging to "Lorna - when we stayed awake all night" ___

Re: The bat for linux?

2002-08-12 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, August 12, 2002, Brook Humphrey wrote... > Thanks for the replies they do not exactly answer the question I > asked. I want to know about a native linux binary called the bat > running under linux and weather or not they have even consider

Re[2]: "Sorting Office"

2002-08-12 Thread Lynn Turriff
Sunday, August 11, 2002, 3:38:36 PM, you wrote: >> Come on Thomas, you have to be a bit more open minded. >> He's not asking to make it bigger, just re-sizeable. >> You could keep it as small as you wanted for yourself. DAC> It is not the size which I find lacking, but the lack DAC> of ability

Re: Problems with TLS/SSL SMTP posting in the bat

2002-08-12 Thread Phil Stoneman
> I'm having some problems getting The Bat to speak SMTP over TLS to my > server. Relevent details are as follows: And while investigating other SSL/TLS stuff, it looks as though The Bat is not speaking IMAP securely at all. When I select the IMAP4 protocol and configure The Bat for either STARTTL

Problems with TLS/SSL SMTP posting in the bat

2002-08-12 Thread Phil Stoneman
I'm having some problems getting The Bat to speak SMTP over TLS to my server. Relevent details are as follows: The Bat 1.61 Qmail 1.03 on Linux 2.4.18 I've patched qmail with the SMTP-auth/SSL patch from http://students.imsa.edu/~ngroot/qmail-1.03-starttls-smtp-auth.patch (the one linked to from t

Sync AB to Palm (was Re: synchronizing with Outlook)

2002-08-12 Thread Tim Musson
Hey Alaeddin, My MUA believes 'Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, August 12, 2002 at 7:54:38 AM. AM> Do you know when the Palm Conduit comes out? The above is an example of what Marck is talking about To an

Re: Synchronize Bat with 2 computers.

2002-08-12 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Bob, > Is there a way to Synchronize Bat between to Computers. I use Second Copy 2000 (http://www.centered.com/) exactly for that. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is

Re: The bat for linux?

2002-08-12 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Sunday 11 August 2002 11:49 pm, Matt Thoene wrote: > Hi Brook, > > On Sun, 11 Aug 2002, at 08:24:44 [GMT -0700] (8:24 AM pst) you wrote: > > Will it ever happen? I've been using linux for many years and the only > > windows box I have collects more and more dust. I have paid for the bat > > but

Re: synchronizing with Outlook

2002-08-12 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alaeddin, @12-Aug-2002, 15:54 +0400 (12:54 UK time)Alaeddin Muntasser said: > Thank you for the information. Please trim your quotes to simply provide context for your replies. This message was a good example of "over quoting". Also search the

RE: synchronizing with Outlook

2002-08-12 Thread Alaeddin Muntasser
hello Tim, Thank you for the information. Do you know when the Palm Conduit comes out? Alaeddin -Original Message- From: Tim Musson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:50 PM To: Alaeddin Muntasser Subject: Re: synchronizing with Outlook Hey Alaeddin, My MUA be

Re: synchronizing with Outlook

2002-08-12 Thread Tim Musson
Hey Alaeddin, My MUA believes 'Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, August 12, 2002 at 4:40:17 AM. AM> Can anyone tell me the best way to synchronize my addresses with AM> my contacts in Outlook. Sync is not

Re: "Sorting Office"

2002-08-12 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Thomas, > That's what I said: > > 1.) I *don't* see a reason why it is *not* re-sizeable. Sorry, I just understood the opposite. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.

Re[2]: The bat for linux?

2002-08-12 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, August 12, 2002 7:00:14 AM RE: "The bat for linux?" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greetings Matt, On Monday, August 12, 2002, 2:49:50 AM, you wrote: Matt> Have you ever messed with vmware? (www.vmware.com) You *do* have to pay Matt> for

synchronizing with Outlook

2002-08-12 Thread Alaeddin Muntasser
Hello all, Can anyone tell me the best way to synchronize my addresses with my contacts in Outlook. I use palm pilot and since I can not synch my Palm with TheBat I have to use outlook 2000. Please let me know any pointers you may have. Alaeddin _

Re[2]: Default PGP Actions

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Thompson
Hello Allie, On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, at 05:00:18 [GMT -0500] (which was 11:00 in my TimeZone) you wrote: ACM> Go into the Account Properties/Options. Down the bottom are the ACM> Message Editor Settings. Enable the settings 'Enable OpenPGP' and ACM> 'Sign Messages when Complete'. Found it now,

Re: "Sorting Office"

2002-08-12 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, St - Musaic.Net [SMN] wrote:' SMN> BUT the dialog box you desperately need more space in (although SMN> that depends on whether you are a "ruletweaker") is not sizeable? SMN> ...weird, eh..? I agree th

Re: Default PGP Actions

2002-08-12 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, @12-Aug-2002, 10:46 +0100Michael Thompson [MT] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Nick Andriash: NA>> PGP's Options/Email tab... "Sign new messages by default". MT> This is already checked ... and has no effect on

Re: Default PGP Actions

2002-08-12 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Thompson [MT] wrote:' MT> This may be a stupid question, but where is the Option to MT> automatically sign outgoing messages in PGP? I cannot find it MT> anywhere! Go into the Account Properties

Re[2]: Default PGP Actions

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Thompson
Hello Nick, On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, at 00:50:37 [GMT -0700] (which was 08:50 in my TimeZone) you wrote: NA> PGP's Options/Email tab... "Sign new messages by default". This is already checked NA> Or, in TB go NA> to Account Properties/Options/Message Editor Settings... check [x] Enable NA> O

Re: color groups

2002-08-12 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Peter, --->>> Peter Palmreuther / Montag, 12.08.2002, 11:21:14 color groups > In a file named 'COLORS.INI'. Thanks works fine again ;-) -- best regards Eddie Powered by v1.61 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/

Re: color groups

2002-08-12 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Eddie, On Monday, August 12, 2002 at 11:08:56 AM you [EC] wrote (at least in part): EC> Where does TB! store the color Groups definition so as I can extract EC> them on the Desktop and bring it over by hand to the seconds system? In a file named 'COLORS.INI'. If 'C:\Program Files\The Bat

color groups

2002-08-12 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear readers from 'TB!udl List', While installing TB! on a Notebook I found that my 'Color Groups' are missing. Where does TB! store the color Groups definition so as I can extract them on the Desktop and bring it over by hand to the seconds system? -- best regards Eddie Powered by v1.6

Re: "Sorting Office"

2002-08-12 Thread Urban Ek
Sunday, August 11, 2002, St - Musaic.Net wrote: > Do you have to scroll up/down/left/right? My display setting > is 1280*1024 - which makes the dialog box look _small_ and > crammed, and underdeveloped. Compare it to be having a > Closet-sized Living Room... And since Ritlabs would

Re: Synchronize Bat with 2 computers.

2002-08-12 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Bob, On Sunday, August 11, 2002 at 9:57 AM, legend has it that Bob [B] recited the incantation: B> Is there a way to Synchronize Bat between to Computers. |-> Tools |-> Synchronize... -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal

Re: Default PGP Actions

2002-08-12 Thread Nick Andriash
Hello Michael Thompson, On Monday, August 12 2002 at 12:42 AM PDT, you wrote: > This may be a stupid question, but where is the Option to automatically > sign outgoing messages in PGP? I cannot find it anywhere! PGP's Options/Email tab... "Sign new messages by default". Or, in TB go to Accoun

Default PGP Actions

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Thompson
Hello tbudl, This may be a stupid question, but where is the Option to automatically sign outgoing messages in PGP? I cannot find it anywhere! -- Best regards, Michael It's not called gossip anymore. It's "transmission of near-factual information." http://.thompsonmike.co.uk/