Mark thread read ...
... or what is a thread? Imagine I have a set of messages threaded thus: Root |- (1) Single Message |- (2) Sub-thread |- (3) Sub-thread Now, if I were reading the root and pressed ctrl-shift-m I rightly see all the messages below it marked as read. However, if I am reading, say, message (2) and did the same thing, I would /expect/ only message (2) and its children to be marked as read when, in fact all of root's messages are so marked. Am I alone in thinking that this isn't right? -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ... and anything below is beyond my control - sorry ... Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Printing header template
Januk, JA That works well, but it looks pretty bad (at least to me) when you JA have a lot of recipients. I'm personally a fan of a vertical list, JA which can be done with the three templates at: JA http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#recipient+list+-indented A vertical list, just what I'm after... unfortunately I'm too busy (stupid?) to understand this solution. Could you (or anyone else out there) please run me through setting this up. Many thanks, -- Nick Using TheBat!: v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spill chucking the Subject
Hello Thomas, Never would anybody think of that. Of course. Who would have those unmentionable wishes ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mark thread read ...
Hi Stuart, On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:02:51 + Stuart Hemming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... or what is a thread? Imagine I have a set of messages threaded thus: Root |- (1) Single Message |- (2) Sub-thread |- (3) Sub-thread Now, if I were reading the root and pressed ctrl-shift-m I rightly see all the messages below it marked as read. However, if I am reading, say, message (2) and did the same thing, I would /expect/ only message (2) and its children to be marked as read when, in fact all of root's messages are so marked. Am I alone in thinking that this isn't right? Yes and no. I'd like to have the same behavior as you describe, but I don't think the current implementation is wrong. The function is called mark thread as read (don't nail me on the exact words, I'm to lazy starting wine and searching for the correct words) and the functionality both of us (and maybe and uncounted number of other people out there) would like to see is mark _sub_-thread as read ... A significant, three letter, difference :-/ I guess the best thing is to submit a Wish list item. Simply follow the link added by the list server software. -- Peter Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Printing header template
Hi Nick, Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 10:26:34 AM, you wrote: ND Januk, ND A vertical list, just what I'm after... unfortunately I'm too busy (stupid?) ND to understand this solution. ND Could you (or anyone else out there) please run me through setting this up. ND Many thanks, Me too, that looks a scary template!! any help would be greatly appreciated (bit of a dope at macros I'm afraid!!) -- Cheers, Ray Version 1.62 Xmas Edition Win2K pro XP home Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Threaded view sorting
Hello there! Does anybody know a way to sort threads by the time of last reply within? -- Pavel Kuznetsov Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mark thread read ...
On 04 March 2003, 10:02, Stuart Hemming wrote: Now, if I were reading the root and pressed ctrl-shift-m I rightly see all the messages below it marked as read. However, if I am reading, say, message (2) and did the same thing, I would /expect/ only message (2) and its children to be marked as read when, in fact all of root's messages are so marked. ~~~ IME it depends on whether the message list or the account tree has the focus. If the account tree has the focus, the object that you're applying Mark all as read to is the folder and I would expect all messages in that folder to be so marked. However, if the focus is on the message list, I expect the current thread to be marked. FWIW, this is the behaviour on my system. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 No wonder I never get any calls: Every time I call myself its busy! Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threaded view sorting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Pavel, @4-Mar-2003, 13:47 +0200 (11:47 UK time) Pavel Kuznetsov [PK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PK Does anybody know a way to sort threads by the time of last PK reply within? There isn't one, but it's a very cool suggestion! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+ZJW0OeQkq5KdzaARAp/MAKClarosbQJKEd+uLYg+9cDYiRpEjACdGgrC dk5XEw39XpjXXVRdnxISULM= =vNXQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving folders
Anyone else have problems moving Common Folders around the tree? I've got a Common Folder the has the options for Move In and Move Up greyed out. This folder is at the bottom of the tree (so it *can't* move down and as far 'Out' as possible). Other times I'll create a folder that, for example, can only move up. -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ... and anything below is beyond my control - sorry ... Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Too many QTs displayed ??
Hello all, QTs are no doubt one of the many great features of TB, that is why the number of QTs I use keeps increasing. Most of I my QTs are used within templates, but there is a number of them I use in real time while composing a message. If I don't remember the name (or I'm not sure) I go to Utilities/Insert Quick Template to select it, but this list is getting so large... Does anybody agree with me that it would be useful to have an option (just like the one to share with other accounts) to display, or not, in the Insert Quick Template menu? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML to link to AOL IM...
Tim, ,- [ ] | Rather than building a chat feature from scratch, I'm interested in | using AOL Messenger's chat room facility (or similar). Is there a | way to have a link on a web page that points to a chat room analogous | to how a mailto points to an email address? | | Thanks. | | | | | | | Clarifications: | | None | | | | | | Solutions: | | | | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:38pm previous next | | From: SMirick | To: dfs | Public Solution Paid: $3.85 plus tip $2.00 | Easy enough - just add the following HTML to your web page: | | a href=aim:gochat?roomname=ROOMNAMEROOMNAME/a | | and you should be all set. Here are some other things you can do with hyperlinks and AIM: | | Opens a new IM window | a href=aim:goimlink/a | | Opens a new IM window with a screen name | a href=aim:goim?screenname=SCREENNAMElink/a | | Opens a new IM window with a screen name and a message | a href=aim:goim?screenname=SCREENNAMEmessage=MESSAGElink/a | | Opens the Add Buddy window with a screen name to add | a href=aim:addbuddy?screenname=SCREENNAMElink/a | | Opens the Add Buddy window with a screen and a group name to add | a href=aim:addbuddy?screenname=SCREENNAMEgroupname=GROUPNAMElink/a | | To change someone's buddy icon when they click on the link | a href=aim:buddyicon?src=BUDDYICONURLlink/a | | To open or receive someone's shared files | a href=aim:getfile?screenname=SCREENNAMElink/a | | Hope that helps. | | Fri, 28 Feb 2003 5:20pm previous next | | From: Scratch | To: dfs | Solution Paid: $1.15 | Yes sure. Please try next statment to have a chat: | | a href=aol://3548:Raatt target=_top Come to me! :) /a | | Another way it is a wabbased AOL chat. `- -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) A television may insult your intelligence but nothing rubs it in like a computer. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
prohibited by administrator
Hi Folks, I wonder if someone could be so kind as to help me out here? I'm having a problem sending to certain email addresses. I get a message telling me: message has not been sent. Server reply relaying to [EMAIL PROTECTED] prohibited by administrator. This even happens, as you can see, when sending to my own address from another account. Can anyone tell me how to remedy this or what the source of the problem may be? -- Kind Regards, Duncan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Too many QTs displayed ??
Hallo Miguel, On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:18:35 +0100GMT (4-3-03, 13:18 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MAU Does anybody agree with me that it would be useful to have an MAU option (just like the one to share with other accounts) to MAU display, or not, in the Insert Quick Template menu? You could create a list in a text file that's opened by SmartBat. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: prohibited by administrator
Hallo Duncan, On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:28:40 +0100GMT (4-3-03, 13:28 +0100, where I live), you wrote: D Can anyone tell me how to remedy this or what the source of the D problem may be? The account in question might be restricted (contact your ISP) or you are trying to access an smtp-server belonging to account1 with ISP1, while you're logged on via ISP2. Lots of ISP's block message relaying for people outside their own network. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: prohibited by administrator
Hallo Duncan, On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:28:40 +0100GMT (4-3-03, 13:28 +0100, where I live), you wrote: D I wonder if someone could be so kind as to help me out here? What I forgot in my previous message: You started your question as an answer to another thread. That's not the best thing to do for the following reason. The Bat is able to thread messages properly, in order to see what I mean, just select the folder where you're storing the messages from this list. Go to the menu: view - view threads by - references. Now you'll see that all messages are lined up after the message to which they're first, second (or whatever) level replies to. You started what's essentially a new thread by replying to another message. That means it shows up as listed in another thread. Since people sometimes skip messages in threads they don't consider interesting (for lack of time). They might skip your message too, since they're not aware of the newly started thread. So next time you'd do yourself a favor by sending a new message in stead of a reply, because you're reaching a larger audience and one of those might have the answer you've been waiting for. This is not not meant to criticize you, but only to help you appreciate the options TB offers and to be able to get more effect out of your efforts. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
prohibited by administratot
Hi Folks, I wonder if someone could be so kind as to help me out here? I'm having a problem sending to certain email addresses. I get a message telling me: message has not been sent. Server reply relaying to [EMAIL PROTECTED] prohibited by administrator. This even happens, as you can see, when sending to my own address from another account. Can anyone tell me how to remedy this or what the source of the problem may be? -- Kind Regards, Duncan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: prohibited by administrator
Hi Roelof, understood and thanks for both replies. I will resend my message from before. I just tried sending messages from this account via Outlook Express. Works OK there, so it must be something in The Bat! that's changed...:-( Bests, Duncan Hallo Duncan, On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:28:40 +0100GMT (4-3-03, 13:28 +0100, where I live), you wrote: D I wonder if someone could be so kind as to help me out here? What I forgot in my previous message: You started your question as an answer to another thread. That's not the best thing to do for the following reason. The Bat is able to thread messages properly, in order to see what I mean, just select the folder where you're storing the messages from this list. Go to the menu: view - view threads by - references. Now you'll see that all messages are lined up after the message to which they're first, second (or whatever) level replies to. You started what's essentially a new thread by replying to another message. That means it shows up as listed in another thread. Since people sometimes skip messages in threads they don't consider interesting (for lack of time). They might skip your message too, since they're not aware of the newly started thread. So next time you'd do yourself a favor by sending a new message in stead of a reply, because you're reaching a larger audience and one of those might have the answer you've been waiting for. This is not not meant to criticize you, but only to help you appreciate the options TB offers and to be able to get more effect out of your efforts. -- Kind regards, Duncanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Printing header template
Hello Januk, I'm personally a fan of a vertical list, which can be done with the three templates at: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#recipient+list+-indented Great templates Januk, thank you BTW, I have adapted them for my business e-mail Reply template and, as I am no expert on RegExp at all, I have a question. But I will post it in TBTECH. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: prohibited by administratot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Duncan, @4-Mar-2003, 14:33 +0100 (13:33 UK time) Duncan [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: D message has not been sent. Server reply D relaying to [EMAIL PROTECTED] prohibited by administrator. D This even happens, as you can see, when sending to my own address D from another account. D Can anyone tell me how to remedy this or what the source of the D problem may be? There are a few things it could be: 1) Authentication requirements for the server not being met 2) Incorrect From domain, one not allowed to relay through the server. 3) Incorrect configuration on the server (less likely since it works from other software). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+ZLIdOeQkq5KdzaARAhOiAJ9o98Il/cc6PpApNDRv5KWaBDyxkACg4TPM FSTXOl2RXlqgMcSiWHiBNdE= =i1d+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Too many QTs displayed ??
Hello Roelof, You could create a list in a text file that's opened by SmartBat. I have a better method for some cases, a QT that is actually a menu of QTs. But that is not the issue or question I asked. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: prohibited by administratot
Hi Marck, and thanks for the reply. Well, what puzzles me is that I can send from those accounts via Outlook Express but not from The Bat! This rather leads me to believe that there is a setting wrong in The Bat! somewhere, yet I've changed nothing and it worked just fine last night. I'm quite stumped. Best Wishes, Duncan There are a few things it could be: 1) Authentication requirements for the server not being met 2) Incorrect From domain, one not allowed to relay through the server. 3) Incorrect configuration on the server (less likely since it works from other software). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: prohibited by administratot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Duncan, @4-Mar-2003, 15:12 +0100 (14:12 UK time) Duncan [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There are a few things it could be: 1) Authentication requirements for the server not being met ... snip D ... Well, what puzzles me is that I can send from those accounts D via Outlook Express but not from The Bat! This rather leads me to D believe that there is a setting wrong in The Bat! somewhere, yet D I've changed nothing and it worked just fine last night. If the server is set for (for instance) POP before SMTP then you may have been running SMTP sends after a POP query purely coincidentally. Or the administrator of the server may have changed the configuration overnight. If it is an Exchange server then OE may be picking up the change automatically and TB would be left high and dry. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+ZLq7OeQkq5KdzaARAo95AJwLf4t6KxX/x3qgNyUUMSwSbYzt1QCeJhlR H6P7YM4gEno+c+j9F1GGtF8= =fVr6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM
Estimados seguidores del tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com: En relación a lo que Jonathan en su momento posteó: JA find out it is a dial-up/dsl/isdn with a dynamic IP address, and JA for the safety of the internet, blacklist that block too. As you JA can see... from one persons mistake, it can result in the possible JA 254 people being blocked immediately. Nice huh? What is even worse JA is if you are on a large ISP, In the past (2 years ago) i used the bigfoot service, but bigfoot use the orlb.org database to filter, some friends (dummy users of internet) are using the smtp server from your isp and the account of the isp. And orlb has in your database this server and this @server.com. Bigfoot was delete the mails of my dummy-friends, *whitout questions*. I do not use bigfoot service yet. The problem is: - i know that spam i recibed - some spam for my is not spam for others, i.e: fwd: fwd: fwd... messages. - some spam for others is not spam for my. i.e. Airlines distributions lists, cinemas distribution lists. I believe the best solution to no lost mails is: the final user need make your own lists, the final user do not need publish their address, the server *do not* filters the mails. -- Se despide, Task Control mail: TaskControl at SoftHome dot net correo: TaskControl arroba SoftHome punto net Usando: - Windows 98 4.10.1998 - AVG 6.0 Free Edition - The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 - Trillian PRO 1.0 B Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Linux version of The Bat!
Estimados seguidores del tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com: En relación a lo que Robert en su momento posteó: RG Hello tbudl, RG I have heard some rumors that Ritlabs is working on the Linux RG version of The Bat! Can anybody on the list who is knowledgable on RG that, confirm or rebut this information? Some people says: with delphi/kilix it easy. ¿Anybody trys use The bat! from Linux+Wine or from Lindows? ¿Anyone konws another windows emulator that works fine with the bat? -- Se despide, Task Control mail: TaskControl at SoftHome dot net correo: TaskControl arroba SoftHome punto net Usando: - Windows 98 4.10.1998 - AVG 6.0 Free Edition - The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 - Trillian PRO 1.0 B Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Linux version of The Bat!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, March 04, 2003, Task Control wrote... RG I have heard some rumors that Ritlabs is working on the Linux RG version of The Bat! Can anybody on the list who is knowledgable RG on that, confirm or rebut this information? Some people says: with delphi/kilix it easy. Depends how many OS dependent resources they used... But usually the change isn't too bad. I've managed to convert a few of the applications I write into Linux for testing purposes. ¿Anybody trys use The bat! from Linux+Wine or from Lindows? ¿Anyone konws another windows emulator that works fine with the bat? I tried wine... took a bit of working... slightly glitchy in places, but I didn't expect it to be perfect. Version 2 is rumored to be written in C/C++ so may have a better chance of running, and/or being converted for Linux. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPmTCAiuD6BT4/R9zEQIccQCfWsZPMoehZy6GDW3+ZnONwpVNgMwAn3XB cuaKimNvc4B60CIzgJUXVFfu =q3Ph -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: LIKELY SPAM
Hello Task, I believe the best solution to no lost mails is: POPFile :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving folders
Hello Stuart, On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:11:01 + GMT (04/03/03, 19:11 +0700 GMT), Stuart Hemming wrote: Anyone else have problems moving Common Folders around the tree? Yes, but I don't know whether it is a beta issue. I've got a Common Folder the has the options for Move In and Move Up greyed out. This folder is at the bottom of the tree (so it *can't* move down and as far 'Out' as possible). Other times I'll create a folder that, for example, can only move up. It appears that you can move folders by right-clicking and choosing the context menu item only within the account. So if a folder is the last one in the account, you cannot move it down but only up. If you try this with a folder in the middle of the account, you can move it both ways. In order to move folders across accounts, you hold down the alt key while dragging it with the mouse. This is safe with the release version, but you want to check with TBBETA first for the beta version you are using. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Avoid cliches like the plague (They're old hat.) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Linux version of The Bat!
Hi, Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 9:52:42 AM, you wrote: TC ¿Anybody trys use The bat! from Linux+Wine or from Lindows? ¿Anyone TC konws another windows emulator that works fine with the bat? I've not been able to make TB! work in Linux/Wine, but I run it all the time in Win4Lin. http://www.netraverse.com/ -- Best, John Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving folders
Thomas, TF Yes, but I don't know whether it is a beta issue. Maybe it is. I'll copy the post over there. TF In order to move folders across accounts, you hold down the alt key TF while dragging it with the mouse. I hadn't appreciated that, thank you. TF This is safe with the release TF version, but you want to check with TBBETA first for the beta version TF you are using. 'K Thanks again. -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ... and anything below is beyond my control - sorry ... Estate Computer Systems Limited Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63 ECS are members of the following trade organisations: The Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, The Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard) To find out more about ECS why not visit our website http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk The information in this email (and any attachment) may be for the intended recipient only. If you know you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disclose the information in any way and please delete this email (and any attachment from your system). See http://www.estatecomputers.co.uk/email.htm for our full E-mail communication conditions. (If the above URLs do not appear as links you may need to copy the details into your browser address line to access these pages). Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sorting order of character sets
Hello tbudl, Is it possible to change the order in list of character set (view menu of Main window) and/or Message Encodings list (Option menu of Editor window)? It also would be nice to have the most wanted items on the top, when calling from the menus, and at the bottom when right clicking status bar in the editor. BTW, very strange (for me), that the same thing is named differently and located in different menus. Thanks in advance. -- Artem Koren Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Robert, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 4 Mar 2003 08:23:19 (my local time 07:23:19), you typed: RG Can The Bat! change the message template automatically - depending RG on the language of the message (let's say, English or Russian)? The way i have it solved now, is that i have a QT which i fire up by hand when there's an incoming message in Swedish, but i think that it is tricky to get TB! to automagically switch languages, maybe with the help of Popfile that would be possible. What do you popfile users out there say? - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V1.63 Beta/5, on Windows 98 4 10 build Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPmTQnDg5SXqDEzkLEQOqRgCeOPEz26s/wVRtpYIzhFPSCsGCMPYAnjJR n06W0SIxHG015Po/sIdSaCIP =+ijx -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Good evening Januk, It was foretold that on 4-3-2003 @ 23:07:00 GMT-0800 (which was 8:07:00 where I live) Januk Aggarwal would mumble: snipped a bit JA If you have some way of determining the language reliably, then yes. JA The easiest way is to make your templates as 2 Quick Templates, then JA use a %IF statement in your main template. It would be of the form: JA =[Begin Sample Quasi-template]= JA %IF:'some condition'='Russian identifier I was looking for this a long time but i still have a question: what how should i use the 'some condition' ? I'll try to make myself clear: i'm subscribed to several lists and sometimes it happens that i have to ask something off-list to a member. Now, if i get a reply and want to reply again, my original language kicks in. The same happens when i just compose a message in english: my sig etc shows in my native language. So, how and which condition do i have to make to set the language to english, both when composing as replying. In other words, my english template should kick in (no, not with the 'insert QT' shortcut :-) ) I hope this sounds clear :-) -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. It is often said: Always put off tomorrow what you can do today, but if the toilet is out of order, I am not sure if that still holds. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Hello Krister, is tricky to get TB! to automagically switch languages, maybe with the help of Popfile that would be possible. What do you popfile users out there say? I only use POFile to classify spam and no-spam but I am quite sure it would probably work just fine to classify messages according to language. After all, it builds a word list or dictionary for each bucket. If I have time to try it I will let you know. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Hallo Luc, On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:23:23 +0100GMT (4-3-03, 18:23 +0100, where I live), you wrote: L I was looking for this a long time but i still have a question: L what how should i use the 'some condition' ? I'll try to L make myself clear: i'm subscribed to several lists and sometimes L it happens that i have to ask something off-list to a member. You could use a variety of conditions. Use different e-mail addresses for lists in different languages, then the e-mail address you're using (or the account) defines your language. Use the address book to store language info. Doesn't have to be a group, but it can also be the country-field from the address book (%ABToCountry), you don't have to enter the actual country there, but use something to identify the language you're most likely to have in common. Another possibility would be folder templates, though it would be difficult to get the reply back to the folder where the original message was created, unless you'd be using the address book again. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Language-based template
Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 11:13:04 AM, Krister wrote: KE The way i have it solved now, is that i have a QT which i fire up by KE hand when there's an incoming message in Swedish, but i think that it KE is tricky to get TB! to automagically switch languages, maybe with the KE help of Popfile that would be possible. What do you popfile users out KE there say? That's a clever idea, and it should work. I've got popfile set up to sort messages into different folders depending on the project they pertain to, and it works at about 98% accuracy with 7 sort folders (buckets). If it can do that it should have no problem sorting based on language. Let us know how it works! -- Sean Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Removing brackets from forwards?? Stupid newbie question. :)
Hey Everyone, Ok another stupid question from a newbie. :) When I forward messages, I like to remove all the s from the messages to make them look pretty. Heh! How can I do that easily? Anyone? Thanks in advance. Fred Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Countdown Clock for signature???
I was hoping all you experts with the templates and regular expressions could help me figure out how to do a countdown clock in my signature. In this case, we are going to Disney in September and I want to say something like, 144 days, 12 hours, 34 minutes till we leave for Disney! Is this even possible? Inquiry minds ah forget it. :) Thanks in advance!! Fred Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing brackets from forwards?? Stupid newbie question. :)
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 8:52:42 PM, Newsacct wrote: N When I forward messages, I like to remove all the s from the N messages to make them look pretty. Heh! N How can I do that easily? Anyone? The easiest way I can think of is to highlight what you want to forward, press Ctrl-C, then use a template which uses %CLIPBOARD rather than %QUOTES. I think. But then I'm no expert on these things. Maybe somebody else will have a better idea :-) -- Deborah Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Removing brackets from forwards?? Stupid newbie question. :)
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 21:52, Newsacct wrote: When I forward messages, I like to remove all the s from the messages to make them look pretty. Heh! How can I do that easily? Anyone? Permanently or on a per message basis? If permanently, you have to work on your forward template. Inserting the original text using the %Text macro should do it. If you want to edit a single message, take a look at the bottom row of the editor. The third box from the left probably says Stream. Change it (by clicking on it) to Column. Now you can cut - and paste if you want to - entire columns. Did that help? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Countdown Clock for signature???
Good evening Newsacct ! On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:54:44 -0500 GMT your local time, which was 04.03.2003, 21:54 (GMT+0100) where I live, you (Newsacct Newsacct) wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was hoping all you experts with the templates and regular expressions could help me figure out how to do a countdown clock in my signature. In this case, we are going to Disney in September and I want to say something like, 144 days, 12 hours, 34 minutes till we leave for Disney! Well, I can't provide counting hours, but I wrote something about counting down days: ,-- [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] | ok, here we go: there is a set of macros you need to get the days | counted. I didn't write these (Carsten, was it you?) nevertheless it | counts days in the future but it also works on past events. | | 1. QT datediff | | %If:_%Comment_=_%Date='mmdd'_:%- | _%comment=a%Comment%-b%Date='mmdd'c0;_:%- | _%comment=a%date='mmdd'b%Comment%c0;_%- | %qinclude=datediff_r%- | %comment= | | | 2. QT datediff_addmonth | | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=12:%- | %Calc=!%SetPattRegexp='b()'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'+1!:%- | %SetPattRegexp='b()'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=01:02%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=02:03%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=03:04%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=04:05%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=05:06%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=06:07%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=07:08%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=08:09%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=09:10%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=10:11%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=11:12%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=12:01%- | %SetPattRegexp='b..(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment' | | | 3. QT: datediff_days | | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=01:31%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=03:31%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=04:30%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=05:31%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=06:30%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=07:31%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=08:31%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=09:30%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=10:31%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=11:30%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=12:31%- | %If:%SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=02:%- | %If:_%SetPattRegexp=$\D$%RegexpMatch=$%- | %Calc=#%SetPattRegexp='b()'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'/4#$_=__:%- | _%If:#%SetPattRegexp='b..(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'#=#00#:%- | #%If:~%SetPattRegexp='b(28|24|20|16|12|08|04|00)'%- | %RegexpMatch='%Comment'~~~:~29~:~28~#:%- | #29#_:_28_ | | | 4. QT: datediff_r | | %REM=Test, ist MM der beiden Datumswerte identisch?%- | %IF:%- | %SetPattRegexp='a(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'=%- | %SetPattRegexp='b(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'%- | :%- | %Rem='Tage addieren/subtrahieren'%- | %Calc=_%- | %SetPattRegexp='c(.*?);'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'%- | +%SetPattRegexp='a..(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'%- | -%SetPattRegexp='b..(..)'%RegexpMatch='%Comment'_%- | :%- | %Rem='Monate in Tage umrechnen'%- | %Comment='%SetPattRegexp=_(a.*b)_%RegExpMatch=_%Comment_%- | %QInclude=!datediff_addmonth!%- | c%Calc=!%QInclude=#datediff_days# + %SetPattRegexp=_c(.*?);_%RegexpMatch=_%Comment_!;'%- | %QInclude=!datediff_r!%- | | | | 5. QT: Differenz | | %Comment=20020101%- | Since %Qinclude=datediff days we are a couple | '-- HTH -- Best regards, Gerd === Tutorial for using regular expressions with TheBat! www.regenechsen.de --- Reading is sometimes an ingenious device for avoiding thought. --- now playing: WDR2 :-) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Countdown Clock for signature???
Hi Gerd, on Tue, 4 Mar 2003 22:46:04 +0100GMT (04.03.03, 22:46 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : GE Well, I can't provide counting hours, but I wrote something about GE counting down days: GE ,-- [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Wow, that's a lot of stuff. Too much for me to understand and too much for TBUDL perhaps? TBTECH might be the better place... *s* -- Cheers Peter Don't humanize computers. They hate that! Winamp currently playing: Art of Noise - Moments in Love Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! uses 100% CPU to download.
Hello, Never got a single response or interest from this group, but I did find the problem. Hope you can solve it; if it happens to you. Tuesday, February 25, 2003, 9:43:25 PM, you wrote: JG Hello tbudl, JG The Bat! uses 100% cpu to download messages. It takes nearly a minute JG to download each new message. JG I noticed this starting when I installed 1.62i JG Also,a small attachment that used to take a half second or so to JG compose now takes several minutes. JG Is there some thing 'Bat' related that could be causing this? JG I keep my message bases purged and compacted regularly, I have about JG 200,000 messages in the Bat!. JG I've changed my NIC, ran a full virus scan and other routine things to JG no avail. JG I'm using Windows XP Pro. JG As I said up top, same environment, just update the Bat! when I JG noticed this started happening. JG Any ideas where I should look first? -- Best regards, Jason Gottschalk mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SYO Computer Engineering Services, Inc. 586-286-2557 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! uses 100% CPU to download.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, March 04, 2003, Jason Gottschalk wrote... Never got a single response or interest from this group, but I did find the problem. Hope you can solve it; if it happens to you. I vaguely remember somebody mentioning something a long while back with Win2k a memory leak in TB!, as Win2k is based on WinNT5, and so is WinXP... I'd assume they probably are both afflicted. I'm not sure what version the problem was fixed in however. What was the solution to your problem? - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPmU6kSuD6BT4/R9zEQKMCgCgxvLotrWEHWCs+mgB3ZXZvGXkJ50AoPnO nbeJzyLZn2VF96ZsCB2+gl7w =p7V8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Setting language automatically in replies
Hello all, Krister Ekstrom in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] gave me the idea of setting the language automatically in replies based on the language of the original message. This method is only valid if your are using POPFile for spam detection, like I am. Because I mainly correspond in English and Spanish, I have changed my POPFile from two buckets, 'spam' and 'real', to three: 'eng', 'esp' and 'spam'. I have reset statistics, re-trained it with some 400 existing messages and, for the moment, it is running at 100% accuracy. Obviously, I have POPFile set to include the X-Text-Classification: header in classified messages. In TB I have created the following QT: ,- [ SLANG ] | %IF:%SETPATTREGEXP='(?im-s)^(X-Text-Classification)\:\s*(.*)$'%- | %REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%HEADERS'%- | %SUBPATT='2'=eng:%LANGUAGE='BR':%LANGUAGE='SP' `- And in all my reply templates I have included it right after %Cursor: ,- [ ] | %Cursor%QINCLUDE=SLANG%- `- And it works!!! Now I can forget about having to change the language manually :-))) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Hello Krister, The way i have it solved now, is that i have a QT which i fire up by hand when there's an incoming message in Swedish, but i think that it is tricky to get TB! to automagically switch languages, maybe with the help of Popfile that would be possible. What do you popfile users out there say? See my mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject Setting language automatically in replies :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Same folders
Using two independent Bats, I noticed they are forced to use the same folder set. This is the IMAP mailbox interface. I really don't want that. I want to DL independent folders on the 2nd TB. Might someone suggest how this is happening? -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! uses 100% CPU to download.
I saw something like this back when I had the ZoneAlarm MailSafe option enabled. For long periods during the mail download my mouse would freeze. Often I would find that my system clock had lost several minutes during the download. Since disabling MailSafe these problems and others have vanished. -- Best regards, Lawrence Johnsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reading Header Info
From looking at the message header information below, how would one be able to tell if the message was: 1. Sent only to me, or 2. Also sent to others via BCC? I'm forced to ask since I don't know what to look for to determine if 2 above is correct. Thanks. Kara[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using Windows ME TB 1.62i Status: U Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com ([24.94.36.229]) by killdeer (EarthLink SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 18Q4QI1xR3NZFlr0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from MUNCHKIN ([67.9.109.75]) by ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with SMTP id h245EJU2013562 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 00:14:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: MUNCHKIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kara [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: You are not going to believe this(!) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:25:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0043_01C2E1DC.28E5D1C0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. --=_NextPart_000_0043_01C2E1DC.28E5D1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reading Header Info
Hello Kara Denizi, On or about Tuesday, March 04, 2003 at 21:10:31GMT -0500 (which was 9:10 PM in the tropics where I live) Kara Denizi posted: From looking at the message header information below, how would one KD be able to tell if the message was: KD1. Sent only to me, or KD2. Also sent to others via BCC? 1. You can't - that's why they call it Bcc! ^ It means you can't tell if it was sent to anyone else. 2. This sounds like a virus message 'subject' line. -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. - Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62i hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reading Header Info
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, March 04, 2003, Kara Denizi wrote... From looking at the message header information below, how would one be able to tell if the message was: 1. Sent only to me, or 2. Also sent to others via BCC? I'm forced to ask since I don't know what to look for to determine if 2 above is correct. Unfortunately very impossible unless one of three things happen... the client is badly written, and shows BCC headers... Outlook is badly developed... but not *that* badly. The other is a mess up at the mail server end... and the headers get included. The final is if you have access to the mail logs on ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com :) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Fingerprint: 676A 1701 665B E343 E393 B8D2 2B83 E814 F8FD 1F73 iQA/AwUBPmVuJiuD6BT4/R9zEQLZlwCcDbO6hpdnxx/veEUV+DYIvdDfsuoAoKG1 VopUSUNpGdAHDjP44wzgvymN =DBB1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Removing brackets from forwards?? Stupid newbie question. :)
On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 8:52:42 PM, Newsacct wrote: N When I forward messages, I like to remove all the s from the N messages to make them look pretty. Heh! N How can I do that easily? Anyone? There's a great little program called eCleaner that'll do this in a couple of mouse clicks. You copy what you want to clean, open eCleaner and click on the appropriate icon (a with a circle and slash through it). It takes out the and copies the cleaned-up version to clipboard. Here's a link: http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6492,00.asp Jeanny -- Jeanny House [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eau Claire, WI Using v. 1.62 Christmas Windows XP Pro Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Language-based template
Hello Luc, On Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 18:23 GMT +0100, clairvoyants were mystified when Luc [L] conjured: JA =[Begin Sample Quasi-template]= JA %IF:'some condition'='Russian identifier L I was looking for this a long time but i still have a question: what Lhow should i use the 'some condition' ? The only way this will work is if there is something common in all Russian messages, but not in any English message. Perhaps it is a character set, or some X-header. Likewise, if there is something common for all English messages that is never in a Russian message, again you'd be ok. Once we have something like that, then you can use a regular expression (or someother macro) and compare it to what I called the Russian Identifier. Of course if you can't find some common difference for the two languages, you'd have to apply the appropriate template manually or use AB templates as Luc suggested. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
