Re: Windows 7
Hi Jack, Saturday, October 24, 2009, 6:02:48 PM, you wrote: Fellow list members, Since the consensus seems to be that in order to ensure compatibility with W7 I'll need to upgrade to at least 4.0.38 (thanks Doug), will I have to purchase the upgrade or will my 3.99.3 key enable the upgrade? I have no objections to the purchase but I'd hate to spend the money if it's not necessary. That's the other advantage, you can use your old key. That's what I did. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 4.0.38 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hi Marek, Saturday, October 24, 2009, 5:26:07 PM, you wrote: Hello all, Saturday, October 24, 2009, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Fellow list members, Well, I'm pretty sure I searched the archives (http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl%40thebat.dutaint.com/) correctly and didn't find anything useful regarding how TB! is going to work w/Windows 7, or even *IF* it's going to work. first version of The Bat! tested for compatibility with Windows 7 is 4.2.10, check http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2931 No problems with 4.0.38. I've never seen a reason for upgrading to 4.2.10. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 4.0.38 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving parked messages
Hi Volker, Wednesday, March 19, 2008, 8:17:55 AM, you wrote: [Reply to: »George Mitchell« · 2008-03-19 · 07:30 h (CET)] Moin, George! Why should I not move parked messages and keep the Parked flag? You can't have a message be parked and moved at the same time. It would be like having a door locked and open it the same time. I think what people, myself included, are looking for is something like the Agent newsreader's Keep flag which just prevents against accidental deletion/purging. Just because I want to protect a message doesn't mean I don't want to organize it. The Park flag is especially ill-suited for this as currently implemented. +1 I could not have said this better myself. :-) Agreed. This is a major pain for me. I want to be able to protect a message against deletion and then organise it the way I want to organise it. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 4.0.18 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded text editor in TB4: new paragraph handling or is it just the same?
Hi Luca, Friday, February 8, 2008, 11:01:20 AM, you wrote: |Upgraded Text Editor |The MicroEd text editor is improved. Now it supports Unicode and all |the available system fonts. You have the possibility to use different |fonts for different elements of the message and benefit of the system-wide |drag-and-drop option. We also added the Redo function and spell checking |for multiple languages at once. Text search is equipped with new options. |Message signature is highlighted. Hope never dies: now, in this version 4, can TB automatically handle paragraphs separated by only one carriage return, or do we need to hit return twice as always? Good question. Another question is when will it be safe to download this! Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.99.25 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! Version 4
I don't know if anyone else has said this and I missed it, but the last time I tried PocoMail it couldn't cope with 18 emails! Doug Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: TheBat! Version 4
On Thu, November 22, 2007 22:56, Jeff Gaines wrote: Hello Group, On Thursday, November 22, 2007, 9:00:06 PM, Doug wrote: I don't know if anyone else has said this and I missed it, but the last time I tried PocoMail it couldn't cope with 18 emails! Doug I can't envisage ever expecting an email program to deal with that sort of storage. If it's important it gets saved externally, if not it's dead after a month or so. TheBat! has no problems, very fast text searching even with more than that. Recipes, posts on archaeology, etc. I want to keep. -- Doug Weller Director/Moderator The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com/ Doug's Skeptical Archaeology site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.99
Hi Eric, Friday, October 26, 2007, 6:03:42 PM, you wrote: Dear TBUDL members, Having downloaded version 3.99.25, I was waiting to see what experience others have had with it before upgrading. As I've seen no comments, do I take it no problems have been detected? [Actually, having seen very little from this list lately, I'm also sending this message to check that it's still functioning!] I've been using it for a week, installed it on a new Vista Home Premium PC, works fine. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.99.25 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving mailfile between 2 Vista machines
I'm moving TheBat! from a laptop running Vista Business to a PC running Vista Home Premium. I am planning to simply drag the mail file over to the new PC, but I'm not sure where it is now and where to put it. Can anyone tell me the best way to do this? Thanks Doug (I've asked at RitLabs also, hope it's ok to ask here as well). -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.99.24 Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! opens 2 instances of web page in Firefox 2.0.0.6
Hi rich, Friday, August 17, 2007, 11:25:38 PM, you wrote: It's a problem with The Bat. MT I responded earlier saying it did not work...tried it again and got it MT working using the registry editing method. I had this happen after installing Google Desktop. Uninstalled GDS and the problem went away. Ditto. Good to get rid of it anyway, I don't need it. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.99.3 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Errors with Vista
Doesn't work for me at all, just brings up an error message. Vista Business, Firefox. Doug Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Errors with Vista
Hi Francis, Sunday, August 12, 2007, 4:25:33 PM, you wrote: Hello Scott, Le dimanche 12 août 2007 à 02:31:18, vous écriviez : SS The Bat refused to use mail:to links and comes up with errors when SS opening URL's. If I click ok to the error message the URL loads in IE SS when I have Firefox as the default. It's not a The Bat ! issues. Take a look at Mozilla support here: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Windows_error_opening_Internet_shortcut_or_local_HTML_file_-_Firefox It fixed the problem for me. But this happens to me while I have Firefox running, and that fix is for when Firefox is not running. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.99.3 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Where do people put their Mail Folder?
Hi I'm moving TheBat! to a new computer with Vista, and it's offering me a choice of where to put my Mail folder. I'll be the only one using it. I opted for C:\Program Files\The Bat\Mail, but Vista has told me access denied. I know there's got to be a way around that but where do people keep their folder and why? Thanks Doug Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Where do people put their Mail Folder?
On Mon, July 30, 2007 19:55, Doug Weller wrote: Hi I'm moving TheBat! to a new computer with Vista, and it's offering me a choice of where to put my Mail folder. I'll be the only one using it. I opted for C:\Program Files\The Bat\Mail, but Vista has told me access denied. I know there's got to be a way Ah, and although I found a discussion of how to do this, I didn't understand it after all. I'm not clear whether I will have similar problems if I use the Default application folder. I have a backup of my whole mail folder I want to install, if that is relevant, and I intend to do backups in the future of the mail folder not using the built in archive mechanism. I want this to be easy. Thanks again. -- Doug Weller Director/Moderator The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com/ Doug's Skeptical Archaeology site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes anti-spam plug-in
Hi Leonard, Thursday, April 26, 2007, 4:14:50 PM, you wrote: Where do I find the Bayes anti-spam plug in for TheBat? Can I trust the version that I found (via Google) at Achims Winkler: So it's not part of the download for your version? I had assumed it was. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.98.4 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing Received Messages
Hi Mary, Monday, January 22, 2007, 3:38:01 PM, you wrote: Hello Dwight! On Monday, January 22, 2007, 9:18 AM, you wrote: Michael, why are you not using the 'Memo' function (Shift+Crl+I)? THat is much faster, uncomplicated and you can make searches on it. it is a WORKAROUND. and a not very satisfactory one at that. I guess I am going to hell or to prison, but I want to be able to decide how I will keep my inbox! Amen! Me too! And me. I'd ditch TB! in a minute if I had something with the same filter and search capacity and the ability to edit received emails easily. And I also want to be able to decide how I will keep my Outbox! Without having to resort to all these cumbersome Work-Arounds. :( Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.95.6 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing Received Messages
Hi Eddie, Monday, January 22, 2007, 12:50:23 PM, you wrote: Dear Dwight, -- Montag, 22. Januar 2007, 03:47:47: [...] and not adopted because users who wish to do this are regarded as bad people who need to be protected from themselves I agree to this. In fact there where numerous discussions on this topic. Personally I also think an eMail should not be altered. In a time where Governments are thinking of considering eMail as a legal document it it more than being a 'bad person' altering such a document (also when there is a possibility through exporting and re-importing. But it can be altered, anyone who wants to alter it can. Bad guys will, good guys have to struggle, what's the sense in that? And email won't be considered a legal document unless it's signed, encrypted, or something that insures it can't be altered easily. So that's no excuse. Michael, why are you not using the 'Memo' function (Shift+Crl+I)? THat is much faster, uncomplicated and you can make searches on it. So if I want to do a fast search of subject lines anything in memo will show up? No, it won't. Memo is not a substitute. And I collect recipes and archive them in TB!, and often want to delete from a post. Or add notes without having to read them by extra mouse clicks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.95.6 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 3.96.06
Hi Thomas, Sunday, January 7, 2007, 5:36:00 AM, you wrote: Hello Doug, On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 08:01:38 + GMT (06/01/2007, 15:01 +0700 GMT), Doug Weller wrote: There is nothing wrong with 3.95.06, it appears to be rock-stable over here. DW My version says 3.95.6, not 0.6, and it is broken in that I can't DW sort on the To: field in Message Despatcher, a known problem. Did you make a BT entry? I mean for the second problem. Did you see the message from Maxim Masiutin? I can confirm it on sorting of messages which contained a pure e-mail address without the name associated with this address. We have fixed this and in the new version there should be all right. Also, message dispatcher displays only the firs addressee if a message was addressed to a list, which will be corrected in the new version. Should I still make a BT entry? Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.95.6 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 3.96.06
Hi Thomas, Saturday, January 6, 2007, 1:51:23 AM, you wrote: There is nothing wrong with 3.95.06, it appears to be rock-stable over here. My version says 3.95.6, not 0.6, and it is broken in that I can't sort on the To: field in Message Despatcher, a known problem. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.95.6 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems with the Christmas Bat - view folder and sorting despatcher
Hi I can't sort on the To: field in the Despatcher, although I can sort on the other fields. When using View Folder, most messages come up blank. Christmas Edition 3.95.6 Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.95.6 Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with the Christmas Bat - view folder and sorting despatcher
Hi Simon, Sunday, December 31, 2006, 10:59:56 AM, you wrote: Hi Doug, In your message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent on Sunday, December 31, 2006, 9:36:27 AM, you wrote: DW I can't sort on the To: field in the Despatcher, DW although I can sort on the other fields. DW When using View Folder, most messages come up blank. DW Christmas Edition 3.95.6 Sorry, I cannot confirm here. What operating system are you currently using? Is it Win 98? I know there were a few transitional issues to Win98 with this version. XP SP1 -- rebooting cured the View Folder problem but not the sorting problem. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.95.6 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with the Christmas Bat - view folder and sorting despatcher
Hi Maxim, Sunday, December 31, 2006, 2:43:27 PM, you wrote: Hello Doug, Sunday, December 31, 2006, 11:36:27, you wrote: I can't sort on the To: field in the Despatcher, although I can sort on the other fields. I can confirm it on sorting of messages which contained a pure e-mail address without the name associated with this address. We have fixed this and in the new version there should be all right. Also, message dispatcher displays only the firs addressee if a message was addressed to a list, which will be corrected in the new version. Thanks, that's good news. I use sorting a lot to weed out stuff that I want to delete on the server. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.95.6 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: List of fixes in 3.1
Hi Mary, Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 4:08:16 PM, you wrote: Mary I encourage everyone to go to Mary http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php Mary and either upgrade or get for evaluation The Bat! v. 3.0.1, because I Mary think no one who does this will be sorry. I was. Downloading a couple of dozen messages started to take forever. I have to remove my Bayes Filter PLugin to make TheBat! useable. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: List of fixes in 3.1
Is there a fix that makes it take forever to download a couple of dozen emails? Because that is what happened as soon as it upgraded. Probably something to do with Bayes Filter Plugin. But it's a real mess. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT : How to setup a GMail account with The Bat!
Just found someone else complaining about the length of time it's taking to switch a yahoo group to gmail, but someone else said it can often take 3 days. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT : How to setup a GMail account with The Bat!
Hi subscriber2list, Monday, September 27, 2004, 7:36:30 PM, you wrote: subscriber2list Got another question here. I've subscriber2list subscribed to a number of lists that subscriber2list are part of yahoogroups and want subscriber2list these messages delivered to the gmail subscriber2list account. I've gone through the subscriber2list subscribe, confirm cycle, but thus far subscriber2list have received nothing from those subscriber2list lists, tbot being one of them. Is subscriber2list there any know problems that exist subscriber2list between yahoogroup messages and subscriber2list gmail? It seems strange at this subscriber2list juncture, but, may be not, huh? I subscribe to 3 Yahoo groups on gmail and several other mailing lists. Your experience sounds weird. I'm using Firefox 1.0 Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why does this filter not continue?
Hi Roelof, Monday, September 20, 2004, 11:20:25 PM, you wrote: Roelof -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Roelof Hash: SHA1 Roelof Hallo Doug, Roelof On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:38:49 +0100GMT (20-9-2004, 20:38 +0200, where I Roelof live), you wrote: DW This filter stops after it flags, etc. It doesn't go on and filter to DW other folders using other filters I have for mailing lists. What did I DW do wrong? Roelof Your filter looks alright to me. The messages caught by this filter Roelof get a flag, colour group, status and are handed back to the sorting Roelof office for continued processing. Roelof I think that you're complaining that messages after being processed by Roelof this filter won't trigger other filters, but I'm not sure about that. Roelof I see no reason why your other filters aren't triggered by the Roelof appropriate messages even when those messages were processed by your Roelof included filter. Roelof Did you try to disable this filter to check whether the messages will Roelof be processed by your other filters when you're not messing with flags? Roelof Do you run a filter that's being triggered by flags and therefore Roelof interfering with your list filters? I've disabled it but I've found the problem. Here it is again: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [F76E24C0.01C48F46.2410559A.254D9807] Name: Helix\20Fairweather Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flag Priority High SetColour 749351669 endFilter What I hadn't noticed is that at some point I'd parked the messages, and the filters evidently won't move parked messages. I guess that makes sense. I'll have to wait until a post comes in from her to see what happens. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems with Bayes Filter Plugin 1.5.4
Hello, Although it says it has scanned messages, no .dat files are being created. Any suggestions as to what I've done wrong? I really would like a fast and stable Bayesian spam filter, should I be trying something else? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why does this filter not continue?
Hi Roelof, Monday, September 20, 2004, 11:20:25 PM, you wrote: Roelof -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Roelof Hash: SHA1 Roelof Hallo Doug, Roelof On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:38:49 +0100GMT (20-9-2004, 20:38 +0200, where I Roelof live), you wrote: DW This filter stops after it flags, etc. It doesn't go on and filter to DW other folders using other filters I have for mailing lists. What did I DW do wrong? Roelof Your filter looks alright to me. The messages caught by this filter Roelof get a flag, colour group, status and are handed back to the sorting Roelof office for continued processing. Roelof I think that you're complaining that messages after being processed by Roelof this filter won't trigger other filters, but I'm not sure about that. That's the problem. They should then be filtered to other folders, but that doesn't happen. Roelof I see no reason why your other filters aren't triggered by the Roelof appropriate messages even when those messages were processed by your Roelof included filter. Roelof Did you try to disable this filter to check whether the messages will Roelof be processed by your other filters when you're not messing with flags? I'll try that. Thanks. Roelof Do you run a filter that's being triggered by flags and therefore Roelof interfering with your list filters? Nope. Roelof What TB version are you running? 3.0 Thanks to everyone who responded. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with Bayes Filter Plugin 1.5.4
Hi Chris, Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 10:39:01 PM, you wrote: Chris Doug Weller @ 2004-Sep-22 5:04:07 PM Chris Problems with Bayes Filter Plugin 1.5.4 Chris mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Although it says it has scanned messages, no .dat files are being created. Any suggestions as to what I've done wrong? Chris What version of Windows are you running? Do you perhaps not have Chris permission to write to the .DAT file in its present location? XP but that's not the problem, I have full privileges. Thanks though. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Competition for The Bat!
Hi Thomas, Thursday, September 16, 2004, 5:07:30 PM, you wrote: Thomas Hello Joseph, Thomas On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:20:04 + (UTC) GMT Thomas (14/09/2004, 23:20 +0700 GMT), Thomas Joseph N. wrote: 'Block images and other external content in HTML e-mail.' JN Mozilla and Thunderbird have had this feature for two or three JN years. It's not new competition for TB! Thomas It's competition insofar as they give the user a choice. TB doesn't Thomas give a choice, the images even from trusted sites cannot be downloaded Thomas without using the browser. And when you do use the browser, the Thomas images sent with the mail are not displayed. Agreed. I want the choice, I don't want RitLabs deciding what I can and cannot view as though I'm not to be trusted to handle what is after all a pretty complex piece of software, not exactly aimed at the AOL lot. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V3 : yes or not in a few words...
Hi WilWilWil, Monday, September 20, 2004, 2:21:06 PM, you wrote: WilWilWil Is it good idea in 2 words to install V3 or not ? WilWilWil I don't need policy ideas or financial opinions. WilWilWil I don't reopen the Ritlabs policy topic. WilWilWil Just a question of using V3 vs V2 in features and stability terms. The release version has been stable for me, I'd say install it. Looks pretty good. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Why does this filter not continue?
Hello, This filter stops after it flags, etc. It doesn't go on and filter to other folders using other filters I have for mailing lists. What did I do wrong? Thanks. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [F76E24C0.01C48F46.2410559A.254D9807] Name: Helix\20Faither Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flag Priority High SetColour 749351669 IsContinue IsActive endFilter -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: VF that displays emails received today.
Hi Bill, Sunday, September 19, 2004, 2:02:17 AM, you wrote: Bill On Sat 18-Sep-04 4:55pm -0400, John Galvin wrote: Saturday, September 18, 2004, 4:42:28 PM, you wrote: Any way to get it to work? M Use 'Age' as the filter condition for you VF. by golly it worked Bill Not quite. If you use age 1, you see all mail Created Bill (not received) in the past 24 hours (not today). Not Bill exactly what I want, but quite useable. Bill It still would be nice to have a today option on Date of Bill or another choice to pick received today. I don't know very much about VFs, can you tell me what you did to create this? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How do I find a specific filter
I've got lots of filters. Is there any way to find a specific one without scrolling through them all? And should I be setting them up in some sort of hierarchy now, grouping them in some way? They are virtually all for mailing lists. Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How do I find a specific filter
Hi MAU, Monday, September 13, 2004, 10:47:19 PM, you wrote: MAU Hello Doug, I've got lots of filters. Is there any way to find a specific one without scrolling through them all? MAU With focus on the filter tree, start typing its name (not too slowly, MAU though). Thanks. So easy and I've been putting off asking all this time! Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Shakespeare Random Insult Generator [was Re: A new one]
Hi rich, Sunday, September 12, 2004, 6:32:49 PM, you wrote: MM Shakespearian Random Cursing Generator. MM insultmonger.com/generators/index.htm rich I think that visiting that site is BAD! rich When I visited it created a directory (under Progra~1) called rich Winad client and then winad.exe puts itself in the machine run rich section of the registry. rich It also added winadx.dll, referenced in a cryptic entry in rich \windows\downloaded programs. What is 'Progra~1'? I presume Program Files. It didn't do that to me. I wonder if you are using Internet Explorer, which even the US government's US-CERT cybersecurity center has warned people not to use! I use Opera and Firefox. I visited the site, then checked with Adaware and Spybot Search and Destroy, no problems. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Shakespeare Random Insult Generator [was Re: A new one]
Hi John, Sunday, September 12, 2004, 8:08:20 PM, you wrote: John Hello Doug, John Sunday, September 12, 2004, 1:51:33 PM, you wrote: DW It didn't do that to me. I wonder if you are using Internet Explorer, DW which even the US government's US-CERT cybersecurity center has warned DW people not to use! John I tried it using IE unser Sp2, and it seems the site wants to install John an Active control :-( Thanks, that is what I thought must have been happening and why some of have no problems. Anyone with problems with that site should either scrap IE or tighten up on its security. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Vibrating buttons in the Message Center
Hello, I clicked somewhere in the Message Center in the Received Column (was trying to click on a button but who knows) and all the buttons started to vibrate. Clicked Receive and the connect centre was flashing. Lost 2 of my 3 panes as messages downloaded, then when it was stable again saw the SmartBat window had opened. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CPU memory usage
Hi Eddie, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 2:55:09 PM, you wrote: Eddie Dear Doug, Eddie-- Dienstag, 7. September 2004, 07:32:06: Can I ask people to monitor their cpu usage? Although at the moment and for the last 5 minutes it's been taking only 1 or 2% of cpu time, just before that, while I was doing nothing, it was up to 98%. I can't figure out what is going on, and I am apparently not the only one that is experiencing this. There is also a memory leak. After the last paragraph I checked my usage, which was at about 66mb. Closed it down, and it was about 24mb when I re-opened. Right now it's just above 22! Eddie If you're subscribed to TB!beta have a look this thread about Memory Eddie and how I solved it: Eddie mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I never installed 2.13 though, so Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration issues with new user
Hi Michael, Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 12:44:55 AM, you wrote: Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Michael Hash: SHA1 Michael Hello Matt, Michael On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Matt mused about Registration issues with new Michael user (at least in part): MT Now this is frustrating as hell... MT Help! Michael Every ISP I know offers their mail on the web as well as download. Michael Have the person go to their webmail. Or download another email client and use that. Set it to leave mail on server first. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration issues with new user
Hi Michael, Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 12:51:10 AM, you wrote: Michael Hi Michael and list, Michael On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 16:44:55 GMT -0700 (which was 01:44 Michael where I live) Michael L. Wilson wrote (at least in parts) and made Michael these valuable points on the subject of Registration issues with new Michael user: Every ISP I know offers their mail on the web as well as download. Michael Does that mean every ISP on earth ? Have the person go to their webmail. Michael Did you read that message completely? I found that last sentence: His email is set to delete from server so he cannot browse to his email either. Oops, I misssed that too, sorry. Set up a new webmail address and email RitLabs about the problem. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What's the best way to set up POPFile with The Bat!
Hello, I'm thinking particularly about whether it is best to have it edit the subject line or add an x-header, but any other tips will be welcome! Can I expect it to be faster then the current default plugin in V3.0? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's the best way to set up POPFile with The Bat!
Hi Alexander, Monday, September 6, 2004, 9:45:09 PM, you wrote: Alexander Hello Doug Weller, Alexander 06-Sep-2004 20:37, you wrote: I'm thinking particularly about whether it is best to have it edit the subject line or add an x-header, but any other tips will be welcome! Alexander I don't like the subjects to be altered (you have to think of it each time Alexander when you reply/forward unless you clean the subject in TB! with a Alexander regex-enhanced template for replies and forwards) - obviously, I'm using Alexander the x-text-classification header. :) I agree. My ISP filters spam and adds a header which I can configure, but I think I shall turn that off as I hate having ham which has [probable spam] in the subject line! Alexander This has other advantages: you can configure TB! to show the header, as Alexander well as the reclassification URL of PopFile in the header pane of the Alexander preview window, thus checking wether the Alexander classification is correct and, in Alexander case PopFile made a wrong classification, Alexander reclassify is only one click Alexander away. *nice* Good idea. Can I expect it to be faster then the current default plugin in V3.0? Alexander Depending on how much mail you get (well, being Alexander on this list alone brings Alexander quite some each day ATM...) it may be slower (but I used BayesIt only a Alexander very short time). After all PopFile is written in Perl, and Bayes analysis Alexander requires a database (mine is 1.4MB right now). I hope it's not slower, filtering seems to be slowing down email delivery right now for me. And my wife's is terrible, 23 emails taking 3 minutes, I have no idea why as she has a very small database. She's using v.3 also but that made no difference, nor did getting rid of the dozen .tmp files, compressing, etc. Alexander And be aware that PopFile can be quite a resource hog - using concurrent Alexander POP connections results in 100% CPU-load peaks Alexander during mail retrieval, and Alexander memory usage is something like 20MB here, always. Alexander Another note: of course, every Bayes filter Alexander requires training - it needs to Alexander know which messages is spam, which is ham, at Alexander least (but keeping only spam Alexander and ham apart is not all PopFile will do for you, of course). That is so Alexander much easier in PopFile with the use of magnets. For example, set up a Alexander magnet that will put every mail from this list Alexander into a bucket genuine (or Alexander whatever you want to call it) - PopFile learns Alexander from every magneted message Alexander and you have a big ham database in no time. I hall do that, good idea. [SNIP] Thanks to everyone who replied. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bouncing Emails
I'm not at all sure bouncing emails is a good thing. How often will they bounce to the correct address? Why add to the amount of junk? And, of course, if you bounce an email where a virus has added someone else's address to the headers, won't you be bouncing it back to an innocent victim? That happens to me already quite enough thank you. :-) Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
CPU memory usage
Hello, Can I ask people to monitor their cpu usage? Although at the moment and for the last 5 minutes it's been taking only 1 or 2% of cpu time, just before that, while I was doing nothing, it was up to 98%. I can't figure out what is going on, and I am apparently not the only one that is experiencing this. There is also a memory leak. After the last paragraph I checked my usage, which was at about 66mb. Closed it down, and it was about 24mb when I re-opened. Right now it's just above 22! Doug running XP Pro SP1 and the release version of 3.0 -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v3.0 filter failure
Hi 9Val, Saturday, September 4, 2004, 10:34:35 PM, you wrote: 9Val Hello Doug, 9Val There was a bug with message source filtering which was already fixed. 9Val BTW, message source filtering is too expensive operation, there it is 9Val possible use header or text filtering DW I don't think I understand this -- and does it mean one should always DW use header filtering rather than filter by one field in a header? 9Val No, it means only that when it is possible narrower type of search 9Val should be used. And therefore full message source search should be 9Val used quite rarely only for special purposes if you want to achieve 9Val better performance Thanks. That makes sense. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Summary of v3?
Hi Pank, Sunday, September 5, 2004, 3:14:01 PM, you wrote: Pank Sunday, September 5, 2004, 8:34:05 AM, Thomas Fernandez Pank ( mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) wrote in part: TF I not only still get these 100%-CPU-usage freezings, they have become TF worse, [ .. ] Pank I can confirm that this same problem is true here. TF Others report memory leaks, which again cannot be confirmed by all. Pank That is true here also and has been ongoing since 2.11beta6, or there Pank about. Somehow I missed previous post concerning this issue here and Pank on TBBETA and assumed that it was my local problem. No problems with XP Pro SP1 here. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How many Smileys?
Hello, I've read the .msl file and posted it to myself. Only a few of them work, should I have done something else? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Licence unhappiness?
Hi Jack, Sunday, September 5, 2004, 7:44:57 PM, you wrote: Jack Sunday, September 5, 2004, 10:43:52 AM, you wrote: Maybe RitLabs is not well suited to build a good e-mail client capable of competing in todays market. Jack IMO, until they learn how to spell the word D-O-C-U-M-E-N-T-A-T-I-O-N, Jack they're dead meat. Jack And that would truly be a damn shame. That's one of the worst things about the way they released 3.0 to the outside world -- who releases a new version with no documentation, or rather including the documentation from the last version? Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 3.0 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any way to search for a phrase in TheBat!
Hi Lynn, Saturday, September 4, 2004, 8:07:39 PM, you wrote: Lynn Looks like we could use it, too! rotfl! Lynn I may bite the bullet on v.3 .. I have a pathological Lynn curiosity :-) A wiki is a great idea. I've bought my v.2 licence. I haven't been able to find anything else better, although there are other email clients that have features I wish TheBat! had. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any way to search for a phrase in TheBat!
Hi MAU, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 11:52:07 PM, you wrote: MAU Hello Doug, I wish that the search mechanism was more user friendly. MAU I have just now clicked on Tools/Search to open the Search Tool. I MAU copied and pasted I wish that the search mechanism was more user MAU friendly from your message and pasted it in the 'Search for'. Under MAU 'Scope' I selected 'Body' and in 'Look in folders' I selected 'TBUDL' MAU (which is the folder I move the messages from this list) and clicked MAU Start button. And guess what! It found your message! Ah, *without* though the quotation marks! I never tried a phrase without those. Does it actually mention this in the Help File? Thanks. Now I think I understand. And if I want 2 words not in a phrase I type word1 word2 I wonder if there will be a Version 3 help file. :-) Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any way to search for a phrase in TheBat!
Hi MAU, Friday, September 3, 2004, 6:39:12 PM, you wrote: MAU Hello Doug, Thanks. Now I think I understand. And if I want 2 words not in a phrase I type word1 word2 I wonder if there will be a Version 3 help file. :-) MAU Will you please open the Message Finder and click on the HELP button? MAU TB's HELP if far from perfect, but I can assure you it is _not_ blank. Nope, it's not blank. But you seem to see something there I don't. Here's the contents, please show me where it tells me how to find a phrase. I've also looked at the Regex help page before, which is useful. The Message Finder is an excellent resource to have at your disposal. It will hunt down a message for you and find it wherever it may be lurking. To call the message finder, press F7 button in the Main Window or select Search item of the Tools menu. First the Search for prompt. This is where you can type in what you are looking for. The message finder will accept '', '|' and '~' special characters to denote AND, OR and NOT operations within the search string. If you need to be more sophisticated with your search string, you can also search using Regular Expressions by turning on the option on the Advanced tab. The Scope section allows you to specify which areas of the message should be searched. Most of these are pretty self-evident. The only one of these options disjointed from the original message itself is the Memo, which can be added to a message as a kind of post-it note. The other options all restrict the search to specific areas of the message - Sender, Recipient, Subject, Headers and Body and the ubiquitous Anywhere option, which includes all of the other options. The Look in folders section allows you to quickly specify which accounts and folders should be included when looking for the message you are trying to track down. In order to work with sub-dClick right button of mouse to bring up a popup menu where you can Select All (Ctrl+A), Unselect All (Ctrl+U), Select including sub-folders (Ctrl+S), Unselect including sub-folders (Ctrl+I). The Advanced options allow you to place further constraints on the search. You can look for messages with specific flags (Replied, Read, Unread, Flagged, etc.) or before and/or after a certain date and more besides. -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is there any way to search for a phrase in TheBat!
Hi Martin, Friday, September 3, 2004, 11:10:25 PM, you wrote: Martin Hello Doug, Martin On 03 September 2004, 21:13 Doug Weller [DW] in Martin mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MAU Will you please open the Message Finder and click on the HELP button? MAU TB's HELP if far from perfect, but I can assure you it is _not_ blank. DW Nope, it's not blank. But you seem to see something there I don't. DW Here's the contents, please show me where it tells me how to find a DW phrase. I've also looked at the Regex help page before, which is DW useful. Martin ,- Martin | This is where you can type in what you are Martin | looking for Martin `- Yeah, the problem is my mindset is clearly fixed on the way Google, etc. work, where typing in two words doesn't get a phrase but just any text containing those two words anywhere, and you need to put this phrase to get a phrase. That doesn't work in TheBat! -- the Help file needs to be clearer about this. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: So you just bought The Bat? Ritlabs says 'Get stuffed'
Are there many examples of getting refunds if you bought something 3 months before an upgrade/new model? Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Change of heart
Hi Morgan, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 2:54:43 PM, you wrote: Morgan Well I just installed every e-mail I could find and have spent the Morgan past 5 hours testing them all out. I have not found one that is as Morgan good as TB! What's inferior about Becky? [SNIP] Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1
Hi Alexander, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 12:54:21 PM, you wrote: TB has VFs and, from what I have heard, with more functionality or possibilities than Outlook. Alexander The so called search folders in Outlook 2003 Alexander look good at first, but Alexander they are, as with every MS product, hard to set Alexander up correctly. TB's VF's Alexander produce the wanted search results much easier, accessible on ONE Alexander properties page instead of two or three nested pages with Advanced Alexander buttons (in the usual MS style - MS really Alexander screwed a good function by bad Alexander accessibility here). I need to know more about the potential of VFs -- how do you use them in searching? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is there any way to search for a phrase in TheBat!
Hello, I wish that the search mechanism was more user friendly. There probably is an easy way to do this, but the UI should be more helpful And the helpfile! Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
(no subject)
I tried out the 3 beta and saw the tick box in Account properties, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't there always, and it isn't in my 3 final. Now you see it now you don't? How do I get NFS in version 3? Doug Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vanishing Tick Box
Hm, Pocomail doesn't automatically warn when you haven't included a subject! I tried out the 3 beta and saw the tick box in Account properties, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't there always, and it isn't in my 3 final. Now you see it now you don't? How do I get NFS in version 3? Doug Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html __ NOD32 1.715 (20040411) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (no subject)
On Wednesday, September 01, 2004, Doug Weller wrote... I tried out the 3 beta and saw the tick box in Account properties, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't there always, and it isn't in my 3 final. Now you see it now you don't? How do I get NFS in version 3? The NFS is no longer optional as it was in the beta during testing. It IS the filter system. Go to Account, Sorting Office/Filter, and you'll see what is the new filtering system. Thanks, I'm ok now! Doug Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mark As Junk/Not Junk - keyboard shortcut/toolbar button?
Hi Marten, Saturday, May 8, 2004, 10:15:43 PM, you wrote: Don't ask why it is under 'View' - no one knows ;-) I use F1, which always also brings up a help menu, even clicking on Conflicts in Shortcut Keys shows no conflicts. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with replying to mailing lists
Hello, I searched and thought I'd found an answer to the problem of replying to a list when the list is set to reply to the sender. I put %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] in my reply template for the folder, but it didn't have an affect. I found this as a change in recent versions of TheBat! Don't use From name for Reply-TO addresses option. However, I can't find the option so haven't been able to test it. Sorry for what must have been asked and answered before, but I have spent some time trying to figure it out but gave up. :-) Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists
Hi Roelof, Saturday, April 10, 2004, 9:41:54 AM, you wrote: Hallo Doug, On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 08:58:32 +0100GMT (10-4-04, 9:58 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DW I searched and thought I'd found an answer to the problem of replying DW to a list when the list is set to reply to the sender. DW I put %Reply-To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] in my reply template for the DW folder, but it didn't have an affect. That wouldn't influence the address your replies are beingsent to, but that changes the address that answers to your messages are being sent to. I don't know whether that was what you intended Nope, I see what you mean now. When you want to do a list reply, you might choose for several options: 1) Right mouse click on the To: header of the incoming message and go for 'Reply to this address' Trouble is, I forget to do it! When I remember, I do that. 2) Use CtrlShiftF5 or via the menu Message-Reply to All in order to reply to the message, that way the message both gets sent to the original poster and the list. This might cause the OP to answer you off list, but you can't get everything. True, not a bad solution but I know I don't like getting 2 replies. 3) Create a folder reply template that sets the To-address to the list. NOTE THAT THIS IS DANGEROUS!!! Whenever you might want to reply off list (with a personal message) you can be very embarrassed or even financially duped (depending on the message) by sending a message to the list without intending to do so. Don't think that this won't happen to you, it will, it happens to everybody with folder templates hardcoding the intended recipient. I think I can live with this on the mailing lists I have in mind. Knowing what what I've done is wrong and why, thanks to your response, I've just now put this in the reply template: %To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] But it's now going to both the sender and the list. How do I get rid of the sender's address? [SNIP] DW I found this as a change in recent versions of TheBat! DW Don't use From name for Reply-TO addresses option. DW However, I can't find the option so haven't been able to test it. Unless I'm mistaken by your question, this has nothing to do with what you intended, but you can find it at: Account - Properties - Templates - Reply - somewhere below Thanks. Yes, thinking about it again it has nothing to do with what I want to do.:-) Thanks for such a full and fast response. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists
Hi Roelof, Saturday, April 10, 2004, 10:21:45 AM, you wrote: [SNIP] DW But it's now going to both the sender and the list. How do I get rid of DW the sender's address? Change it to: %To=%To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] The first %To macro empties the To: header (see the help) Thanks. I've also now found the appropriate help file. Now if I could figure out how to make the reply macro also capitalise the first letter of the recipient's name in Hi %tofname. Is there anyway I can put Ctl+/ in there? Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists
Hi Jonathan, Saturday, April 10, 2004, 6:09:12 PM, you wrote: Something like that, I think it's been mentioned in the past for folder templates, if you do a search for Marck's folder templates are evil reply, you can normally find a bunch of suggestions ;) I just searched the archives, and can find a reference by Marck to his 'folder templates are evil lecture', but not the post itself. DOug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with replying to mailing lists
Hi Marck, Saturday, April 10, 2004, 8:45:55 PM, you wrote: [SNIP] There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates. There are dangers in using Folder Templates that are not there when you use AB templates. Ok. I want all my lists to work the same way. At the moment I'm used to clicking on the sender's address in the header field if I want to reply to the sender, and on the reply button if I want to reply to the list, so I'm not too worried about doing it the wrong way with a Folder Template. However -- I'd like to try address templates. I can't find them in the Help file. This is probably because I'm looking in the wrong place, but I also tried the archives and turned up too many pages to go through. Is there a quick guide to these? I've done a web search also and found a bit, but I'm still unclear as to how I'd use these for my purpose (and how to set a group one for my mailing list group) Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt Spam Plugin
Hi Lawrence, Wednesday, March 3, 2004, 4:14:17 PM, you wrote: Is there any way to keep the plug-in from popping up and grabbing focus every few milliseconds as mail comes in? Its a battle trying to do any work while the plug-in keeps snatching focus. Not here. 2.04.7 XP Pro Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time for a Newsgroup?
Hi Thomas, Saturday, February 28, 2004, 5:06:30 PM, you wrote: [SNIP] I see no harm in an English-language newsgroup in addition to this list, even though I wouldn't read it. It might get more publicity for !TheBat Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre is empty but the bat cannot shut down
Hi David, Friday, February 27, 2004, 10:10:43 AM, you wrote: We need a button to shut the bat down as if it were exiting. Absolutely. It's ridiculous not to be able to close it. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BayesIT in 2.04.7 and 2.04.04
Hello, I have been plodding on telling BayesIT what is Junk and what is not, about half and half, but BayesIT refuses to do anything on its own. I understand that this started with 2.04.04. I am about to upgrade to 2.04.07 but from what I've read that only fixes a search problem. Can anyone shed light on this? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIT in 2.04.7 and 2.04.04
Hi Doug, Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 7:00:37 PM, you wrote: I have been plodding on telling BayesIT what is Junk and what is not, about half and half, but BayesIT refuses to do anything on its own. I understand that this started with 2.04.04. I am about to upgrade to 2.04.07 but from what I've read that only fixes a search problem. Can anyone shed light on this? Ah, I found out. You post to the list. Since I posted it has picked up 3 spam emails. But it's missed 5. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?
Quoting dAniel hAhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Doug, on Tue, 24. Feb 2004 at 06:10:24 + you wrote: No, I can't confirm that. For me the 2.04.4 works very fine (also the Spamfilter BayesIt which is included in that distribution. D I can't get it to kick in. I'm not sure what I've done wrong, tried to D follow the instructions. When it's active in Options - Preferences - Anti-Spam you should be able to mark Spam with Specials - Mark as Junk. Look at the Anti-Spam options (in Preferences), what TB should do with spams and you should have it working. This is what I've been doing, marking spam as Junk, but shouldn't Bayesit start to filter out spam by itself? When does it start doing that? If a non-spam should be put into your set spam/junk folder you have to use Specials - Mark as NOT Junk to redefine Bayesit's base. I've also been marking some non-spam as Not Junk in accordance with the instructions. Thanks. Doug -- Doug Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is 2.04.4 an official release or another beta?
Hi Martin, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 12:08:24 AM, you wrote: No, I can't confirm that. For me the 2.04.4 works very fine (also the Spamfilter BayesIt which is included in that distribution. I can't get it to kick in. I'm not sure what I've done wrong, tried to follow the instructions. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Query about upgrading from 1.xx with different name
Hello, I bought my wife version 1.xx -- now she wants to upgrade and order it herself. But her copy is in my name, if she now orders it on her credit card will there be a problem with the different names (including surnames). Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems Installing K9
Hi dAniel, Monday, January 26, 2004, 12:22:40 AM, you wrote: on Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:17:10 + Doug Weller wrote: DW My wife is trying to install K9 on 1.63. It looks set up correctly, DW but she gets the message 'Cannot connect to server'. DW Any suggestions as to where we may have gone wrong? look at the port and IP settings in TheBat, if it's the same as on what K9 is listening. But aren't they supposed to be different? TheBat! should show as the port, for instance. Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Hi MAU, Friday, January 23, 2004, 9:51:45 AM, you wrote: Hello Richard, I was just wondering if you could elucidate how you go about ignoring threads which you are not interested in? :-) See http://www.rancho-k.com/ Ok, I have Power-Pro running at work and used to use Stiletto, I might try that. Your reply folders -- do you just drag messages into the 10 day one or is that automated also? Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems Installing K9
Hello, My wife is trying to install K9 on 1.63. It looks set up correctly, but she gets the message 'Cannot connect to server'. Any suggestions as to where we may have gone wrong? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Quoting MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Richard, I was just wondering if you could elucidate how you go about ignoring threads which you are not interested in? :-) See http://www.rancho-k.com/ That looks very good. How much of the moving into the appropriate folder is done manually and how much automaticall? I MUST clean up my inbox, which is well over 3000 messages. Doug -- Doug Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Quoting MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Doug, That looks very good. How much of the moving into the appropriate folder is done manually and how much automaticall? Most is done 'automagically' using filters (sorting rules). I MUST clean up my inbox, which is well over 3000 messages. Mine, which I call My Inbox only has 7 with 3 still unread :) That sounds great. Any chance of a sample of your filters? Doug -- Doug Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Allie Martin's 'version' of TB
Hi Daniel, Monday, January 19, 2004, 12:35:10 PM, you wrote: The answer is in WindowBlinds: http://www.windowblinds.net [end quote] I look at this from time to time but always go away thinking 'pretty, but I'll get a performance hit/ clash with something else'. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Allie Martin's 'version' of TB
Hi Allie, Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 2:06:07 PM, you wrote: [SNIP] However, a good skin works really well with very few incompatibilities, usually only with those applications that do it's own window elements rendering, even though these application interfaces may look pretty much standard. Thanks for all of this. The secret seems to be to find a good skin, which I guess is done by experimenting. I might give it a whirl. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Allie Martin's 'version' of TB
Hi dAniel, Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 4:56:11 PM, you wrote: on Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:20:19 + Doug Weller wrote: DW Thanks for all of this. The secret seems to be to find a good skin, DW which I guess is done by experimenting. I might give it a whirl. see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], where I recommend ReflectionsXP (http://www.imagehouse.co.za/themes.html). This needs a patched version of uxtheme.dll (which is also provided by ThemeXP). This is a clear, usable and very beautiful skin - IMHO, of course.. :) Thanks. Not sure I like the square corners. I'm trying out Windowblinds at the moment. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
View threads by subject -- messages invisible
Hello, 2.02. CE, view threads by references, fine, view threads by subject, no headers, just the '+' boxes. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange attachments Fwd: [AGILE] Re: [AGILE] Agility Trial in England
Hi Lourdes, Friday, October 24, 2003, 1:44:38 PM, you wrote: Hello Doug, Thursday, October 23, 2003, 12:17:36 AM, you wrote: I've looked at the original I sent and there are no attachments. Any ideas? I don't think I've seen them on the list before either. The email you sent did have 3 attachments. It appears to have been a mime encoded email where the list server kept adding it's signature as additional mime sections. Thanks. It doesn't seem to do that normally though. Hopefully just a glitch! Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange attachments Fwd: [AGILE] Re: [AGILE] Agility Trial in England
Quoting Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Doug, @23-Oct-2003, 06:17 Doug Weller said: I've looked at the original I sent and there are no attachments. Any ideas? I don't think I've seen them on the list before either. I don't understand the question. Sorry. Did my email come through with 2 attachments? Probably I shouldn't have deleted it when I received it. :-) If so, I don't understand where those two attachments came from. They aren't in the email I sent, I have never seen them on email from that particular mailing list, so I'm at a loss. Thanks. Doug -- Doug Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error While Reading Message Base (v2.01.3)
Quoting Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo Bob, On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:42:01 +1000GMT (23-10-03, 5:42 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BM Can you also clarify your advice regarding not storing mail in the BM Inbox? My batgroup account is set up only for messages from the group BM - no other mail goes to it at all. You shouldn't store mail (that you'd like to keep) in your inbox. Since you don't do that, you're keeping the last 30 messages, that's another matter. What problems are caused by storing mail you'd like to keep in the Inbox? I've got over 3000 emails there. A relatively small percentage of my total email, but more than 30! Thanks. Doug -- Doug Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error While Reading Message Base (v2.01.3)
Hi Marck, Thursday, October 23, 2003, 4:39:53 PM, you wrote: The inbox is continually receiving messages. Some stay. Some are filtered. Some are deleted. Some are purged. From day to day the file used to hold those messages is being accessed and changed. To keep valuable data in so heavily accessed a file is asking for trouble. An OS error can cause errors in frequently accessed files. Errors like cross-linked sectors and corruption. I won't risk it myself. Good points, I'll have to do something about it. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange attachments Fwd: [AGILE] Re: [AGILE] Agility Trial in England
I've looked at the original I sent and there are no attachments. Any ideas? I don't think I've seen them on the list before either. Thanks. Doug This is a forwarded message From: Doug Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 8:48:09 PM Subject: [AGILE] Re: [AGILE] Agility Trial in England ===8==Original message text=== --- Commands to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE AGILEDOGS firstname lastname To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF AGILEDOGS For list rules: GET AGILEDOGS WELCOME For digests: SET AGILEDOGS DIGEST To turn off mail: SET AGILEDOGS NOMAIL To turn on mail: SET AGILEDOGS MAIL Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for help. Archives: http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/agiledogs.html All AGILEDOGS email is Copyright 2003 by its original author. --- ===8===End of original message text=== -- Best regards, Dougmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Hi Jose, Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 9:15:50 AM, you wrote: Hi: My company sent me to England for work for the next three months. Would anyone have information about how to find Agility trials in the London and Leeds region? Reply privately, please. As there is stuff here that should be of interest to everyone I am replying publicly and privately. The sites below should have what Jose wants and more. This is the Agilitynet site, one of the main UK agility sites. http://195.184.239.210/frontpage.htm The Agility Club: http://www.agilityclub.co.uk/ Agility Eye: http://www.agilityeye.co.uk/ Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk --- Commands to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE AGILEDOGS firstname lastname To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF AGILEDOGS For list rules: GET AGILEDOGS WELCOME For digests: SET AGILEDOGS DIGEST To turn off mail: SET AGILEDOGS NOMAIL To turn on mail: SET AGILEDOGS MAIL Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for help. Archives: http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/agiledogs.html All AGILEDOGS email is Copyright 2003 by its original author. --- --- Commands to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE AGILEDOGS firstname lastname To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF AGILEDOGS For list rules: GET AGILEDOGS WELCOME For digests: SET AGILEDOGS DIGEST To turn off mail: SET AGILEDOGS NOMAIL To turn on mail: SET AGILEDOGS MAIL Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for help. Archives: http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/agiledogs.html All AGILEDOGS email is Copyright 2003 by its original author. --- AdmID:F3A4D5DFF3C661FA419929B12F64C84A --- Commands to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE AGILEDOGS firstname lastname To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF AGILEDOGS For list rules: GET AGILEDOGS WELCOME For digests: SET AGILEDOGS DIGEST To turn off mail: SET AGILEDOGS NOMAIL To turn on mail: SET AGILEDOGS MAIL Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for help. Archives: http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/agiledogs.html All AGILEDOGS email is Copyright 2003 by its original author. --- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How do I create a filter to just set flags?
Hello, I want to filter all email from a certain user to various folders but first set some flags. How do I do that? It looks as though I have to set a folder for the email to go to, and I don't want to do that, I want other filters to decide which folder it should go to depending on other attributes of the email. Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion for better message list view reading
Quoting Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, October 05, 2003, Vishal wrote.. MDP (#There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza#) ummm..huh? It is a song, it appears only those from England know... I often find myself humming it for some reason, and people look at me blankly, but working in the US now, that tends to happen quite often ;) eg A folk song made popular by Harry Belafonte -- his rendition is great! -- I'm from the US. Doug -- Doug Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Gibberish
I sent a message to a mailing list from TheBat! 2.00, it ended up like this
(original below). Sending this from Horde to see if that works.
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The original message was:
The balding is a red herring, as all we see on Diane's page is a person with
no hair on their head. That can be because the head was shaved,
illness, etc.
Native Americans do have facial hair to varying degrees..
The Siriono of Bolivia have beards.
See Nomads of the long bow: The Siriono of eastern Bolivia, by
Allan R. Holmberg. IV+104 pp., 7 pls., 4 charts, 1 map. 1950
Amazonian Indians have beards. I
Go to http://www.der.org/photography and click on the section on Latin American
photgraphs - see the top photo..
Lots of photos here:
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/S?ammem/curt:@field([EMAIL PROTECTED](Beards))
Make sure you copy and paste the whole link, as clicking won't work
probably. It needs all the parentheses.
Pacific Northwest tribes such as Nootka, Klikitat, Kwakiutl, Haida,
all show descriptions of bearded tribesfolk on first-contact.
Bearded Indians in the Caribbean:
http://www.caribbeanconsulting.com/Sabaxyz/Will/EarlyHistory.htm
There are many stories of bearded Indians. Some are probably about groups
of people with some European heritage, but all of them? Likewise you can
find many reports about Indians plucking their beards out. This one isn't
scientific but it is typical:
http://www.everettarea.org/tales/v02/v02c12.htm
Captain John Smith wrote:
[The Powhatans are] generally tall and straight, of a comely proportion,
and of a colour browne...Their haire is generally black, but few have any
beards
http://state.vipnet.org/dhr/arch_NET/timeline/contact_indian.htm
In other words, a few did have beards.
More beards in Brazil:
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/library/brazilwood.htm
Despite believing that if they grew beards or had their hair long at the
front 'they might be seized and captured by these', some Tupinamb
emulated the appearance of their French allies by growing beards. However,
they plucked out all other facial and body hair.
Beards in southern Mexico, the Mixe:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10408a.htm
bearded California Indians
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:U1LtKOqifgwJ:www.spk.usace.army.
mil/cespk-pao/dec02/dec02-09.html+Ohlone+beardshl=enie=UTF-8
and also at http://www.portchicago.org/lastwave/chapters/LastWave_Ch1.pdf
or non .pdf
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:8Z_naBPRiSAJ:www.portchicago.
org/lastwave/chapters/LastWave_Ch1.pdf+Ohlone+beardshl=enie=UTF-8
I imagine I've just scratched the surface as all I've done is searched
the web.
Then there are the genetic relationships. What we know for sure shows
relationships with Asian groups, who also have in general less facial
hair than Europeans, but can grow beards. If Kennewick man
Re: Gibberish
Hi Marck, Monday, September 29, 2003, 6:40:30 PM, you wrote: Looks *more* like an unsupported encoding or stripped encoding header. Try the same QP fix I recommended here: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks (and thank you Thomas), I saw that this morning and decided I was going to do it tonight, but that was too late for yesterday's post! Thanks Peter, I had wondered about that but I think that the QP solution is more likely to work. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download Filter Syntax
Quoting Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [SNIP] By now I am of the opinion that the ISP should delete Swen server-side. They should have an interest in eradicating it, as it is costing them a lot of bandwidth and therefore money, it annoys the users, and enough users might click on them and spread it further. Two of my ISPs have now started using Interscan VirusWall (I am sure there are other products) and I merely get a message saying: Receiver, InterScan has detected virus(es) in the e-mail attachment. My POP3/smtp provider (not my ISP0 puts email through 3 virus checkers, and I get a similar message. As they are coming through at a rate of over 1 a minute it seems a good idea. But it's a paid option. The impact of this volume on ISPs must be huge. I imagine some are cracking under the strain. [NIP] Doug -- Doug Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection times out
Hi Marck, Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 10:33:54 AM, you wrote: Hi Alexander, @9-Sep-2003, 06:57 +0200 (05:57 UK time) Alexander [A] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Doug: ... or are you using a local spam-catching proxy that times out? Opening the mail dispatcher to sort it out manually on the server. A So it sounds like the connection to the server times out. ... ... or the RAS/DUN connection hits its inactivity timer limit. We're on 1 mb broadband though. She uses uk2.net to pick up her email. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection times out
Trying to pick up my wife's email, it always times out before I can delete the spam. I've looked for a setting (v 1.62) and can't find one, am I missing something? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection times out
Hi Alexander, Monday, September 8, 2003, 4:52:22 PM, you wrote: 08-Sep-2003 13:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to pick up my wife's email, it always times out before I can delete the spam. I've looked for a setting (v 1.62) and can't find one, am I missing something? Can you specify how you delete spam, are you opening the mail dispatcher to sort out the spam manually on the server, or are you using a local spam-catching proxy that times out? Opening the mail dispatcher to sort it out manually on the server. Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter to set high priority flag park still send to right folder
Hello, It's easy enough to filter messages so that a message from a certain person is parked and the high priority flag set, but it doesn't look obvious how I can NOT let it go to its own folder but to the folder set by other filters. I don't have a choice of 'don't send to folder yet'. What am I missing? Using V2. Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Thebat! only used by spammers?
I was wondering why my email to my brother kept being rejected. I thought it was rejecting my ISP, but when I switched to a POP3 mailbox hosted independently of any ISP it was still rejected. My host asked why, and was told: That message (or messages from that sender to that recipient) was the first non-spam use of an X-Mailer of The Bat! in an extremely long time. (I went back several months in the logs.) It's a real client, but it seems like nobody other than spammers use (or forge) it. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Top posting
For business email I top post simply because I fear people won't read everything I've written otherwise! Doug Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat! keeps saying it is unregistered!
Hello, If I shut down TheBat! and try to run it again, it comes up without any of my email and saying it is unregistered. I have to reboot my PC to get it right. Any suggestions? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
